you can't save people who don't want to be saved or who don't realize they need saving.all you can do is get together with like minded people and start working.
And just to follow-up, his desire to maintainly benefit himself has several effects. He creates jobs/options for his people other than illegal means of sustenance thus displacing drug trades and other crimes. His business must directly address a societal need or it will fail to launch, thus a second benefit from the individual. He attracts the youth and other african centered individuals to start their OWN business. Seeing the benefit of entrepreneurship is an important motivator for others.
@playaplayag7 No matter how successful an entrepreneur is or how many individuals they influence it does not eliminate the fact that we COLLECTIVELY do not have our own land and resources and materials to control the means of PRODUCTION and MANUFACTURING COLLECTIVELY in our so-called communities. Individualistic thinking usually only benefits the individual and that premise of everyone else benefiting incidentally from it is the same mindset of Black leadership and y they have no accountability
Are there individual solutions to collective problems? I promise not to muddy the water on this one, and I'll be brief... My answer is yes. When an african centered individual sets out with the desire to be a successful entrepreneur, the steps he takes to reach that goal should automatically benefit his people if he hires qualified individuals in his community. He doesnt put it to a vote or wait for validation from his african centered brothers. He decides and the community benefits directly.
@playaplayag7 I disagree. One individual does not solve a collective problem. SOME people may benefit from what one individual does but that hardly eliminates the collective problem that affects the ENTIRE community. See, that example is the perfect example of the type of thinking we need to get away from because it does muddy the water whether intentional or not. WE MUST THINK AND ACT SYSTEMATICALLY IF WE WANT TO SOLVE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS. This isn't even an arguable point.
White Supremacy is used as a crutch for silly wining girl like niggas to sit on their ass and wait for their husband the White man to help them.When someone says let build our own nation real men listen the phoney Negroes have a million objections and excuses to delay and avoid the truth.
We don't need Africa to improve our communities, we need collectivism among African Americans. We make up 13% of the population and have billions in spending power, yet as you correctly pointed out, all of our money goes to other communities. Africa is not the solution for Black Americans. We need individual achievement, group cohesiveness, and an acceptance of capitalism. Asians don't succeed because of their ties to Asia, they succeed based off the three factors I just mentioned.
@rjhome1 I respectfully disagree with you. The only people who say "we don't need Afrika" are people with a woeful lack of knowledge and ignorance about what a Nation is and what an infrastructure is. If you want to establish a nation inside of the borders of the U.S. where is your nation going to get the raw materials to manufacture and produce goods? Since you don't have any here you control you are going to have to import them.
Where are your seaports and airports for trade and commerce that you own here in the U.S.? If you have trade agreements, who will you trade with and what will you trade? Afrikans in America only have one major export to trade with other nations; LABOR. So unless you are willing to work for Mexican wages there goes that idea. No offense, but you really haven't thought this thing through.
@rjhome1 Group cohesiveness come BEFORE individual achievement and we don't have to accept capitalism because we already have. We just don't make it work for ourselves because their is no WE no US and no OUR. IT DOESN'T EXIST. CULTURE is what make a group have cohesion. So to attempt to have group cohesion without it sets you up for failure before you even get out of the gate. You cannot disconnect from the root and think you will grow. You will suffer and then you will die.
One more factor you failed to mention; CULTURE. Are you seriously going to argue with me that Asians do not have a STRONG cultural foundation that dictates how they move and operate in the world? Your omission of it is telling. If it is the glue that holds group cohesiveness, individual achievement and knowledge of the context they live in when they are in a foreign land (a.k.a. acceptance of capitalism) for Asians...why is it omitted from the equation when it comes to Black Afrikan People?
I just started listening to you vids and you make some good points, but as far as this African nationalist thing, sorry bro, you're way out in left field. We can't even organize in a 2 mile radius, how the HELL we gonna organize globally.
And if we were to negotiate trade and business agreements with Africa, which country would we do business in? Nigger, Ethiopia, Sudan, Angola or a better question, which warlord or tyrant leader would we trust? cont ....
@rjhome1 Which warlord or tyrant do you trust in the U.S.? Business isn't about trust. Business is about mutually beneficial interests. You have nothing to trade with but your labor and you are attempting to export your labor to other nations within this nation IN A BUYER'S MARKET. That is why the cost of your labor is constantly being DEVALUED because they dictate how much your labor is worth. Your competition would be, and is currently, Mexicans. Need I say more?
By far, one of your best posts ever. The quicker we can lambast & jettison the 'usual' anti-Afrikan, anti-Afrikan nation statements once and for all, the quicker we can then come together on surer footing to move us forward to actually changing our conditions as a collective. There are more ppl who like to talk about the problems ALL DAY, than there are those who actually want solutions; so the sooner they are exposed & moved away from, the better. Keep up the MAGNIFICENT WORK!!!
the greatest lie thats has been perpetrated upon us institutionally that we believe is that we are out side of humanity we are outside of the grace of God _ thus the concept of nation hood is all but a delusion as is any sense of respect among your peers in the human collective ....
Now we can go back to Africa, integrate further into the WS-mist "mainstream", opt out, co-opt in, make peace with WS, or FIGHT IT. That is why it is important for us NOT TO LOSE FOCUS. That requires calm and rational analysis NOT blame of our own people.
@justanotherpeasant Listen...If you cannot organize a lemonade stand on a national level how in the hell are you going to fight WS? Maybe you need to listen to my vids before you write these comments because I have been quite clear. BUT...for you I will break it down once more....
Within a socio--economic & political context there is no WE, no US, and no OUR. Afrikan people are currently scattered individualists aligned by aesthetic similarities. So when people talk about what WE have to do and how WS is against US and how WE have to teach OUR babies, I always ask the same thing....Who are you talking about? Until we establish a WE, an US and an OUR don't even think about going against anybody, especially the WS system which controls the context.
@justanotherpeasant I have no more time for debating. Now, I want to know if you consider me an ally or an enemy. This way I can determine what to do next. All this other stuff is verbal and mental and linguistic masturbation and a waste of time between people who are on the same team. So, which one is it....friend or foe?
Well I'm black man of AFRICAN ASCENT who loves the people I come from, if that makes me a man's foe, then so be it. If that makes a man friendly to me, that makes him my BROTHER. Btw I don't do linguistic masturbation, (whatever that silliness means) I have a core ideology in which LOVE of self and the people I come from - (not self hate) motivates my actions.
@justanotherpeasant that silliness called linguistic masturbation is what you just did. I asked if I was friend or foe and you go on yet another diatribe and preamble never just answering the question. I've been down this road before and it usually ends with the person revealing they are not about consensus or coming to common ground. So, since you didn't say I was a friend I will make the next appropriate action and sever this communication. Be well in your endeavors.
In fact, I'd say that we can measure our progress by the degree to which we are "DIS-UNITED" Our "disunity" actually proves the number of options we have now that we didn't have previously. When we were enslaved there were only two possibilities - be a slave or be FREE.
There was probably more black unity during slavery than there is among blacks today in neo-slavery. That we disagree on range of key issue shows the extent to which we have options we didn't have in Slavery.
@justanotherpeasant Thank you, Capt. Obvious. That wasn't what I was saying, "WHAT???!!!" to. It was this: "In fact, I'd say that we can measure our progress by the degree to which we are "DIS-UNITED"
Indeed, I strongly disagree that our response to WS has been inadequate. It has merely, thus far, been insufficient to completely neutralize WS as a factor determining outcomes in our lives. But we've scored many important victories against it, in times when the odds were far greater against us than now. This is not empty rhetoric, it is a rational appraisal of the situation, that we rarely hear from ANYONE
@justanotherpeasant inadequate and insufficient are fundamentally the same thing. You are playing semantics right now. Why are you accusing me of something I have not done and where is this discussion going? You are bringing up points that support what I've been talking about all along yet you are attempting to use them against me as if you are dropping science against a stance I have not taken.
Inadequate for our purposes would be - offering a weak response to WS. That WOULD be our fault. However, 'insufficient' is not having the means to complete a task. Eg, you could hardly say that Marcus Garvey's or Nat Turner's responses to WS were inadequate (weak), however their responses were insufficient to bring about the goal of liberating blacks.
Theirs is a work in progress, that it is our duty to continue. It's a long terms project that takes requires a multi-generational commitment to bring to fruition.
@MrHolipsism Brother Holip these are Niggas that stand on the corner selling tapes on WS they dont want us messing up their bread and butter.They have no intention of seeing WS destroyed.They cake off of it.
I reject the terms of your question. Why must blacks be "blamed" for what you say is an inadequate response to WS? Isn't WS at fault for forcing a situation upon us that requires us to respond to WS made problems as well as the normal problems of survival that every peoples must contend with? In that light, I'd say we should FORGIVE ourselves, our "failings" and build on our MANY successes in combatting WS, NOT blame ourselves for the as yet, imcomplete task of ending WS.
@justanotherpeasant You are giving the White man powers "GOD" doesn't even possess. If the White man can control not only the context but how you respond to it then this thing is a wrap. What's next? A socio-economic & political infrastructure will only happen when they give their permission?
How on earth did you get 'whitey has God like powers', out of anything I said?
I neither said nor implied any such thing. I simply named WS as the PRIMARY obstacle to African Liberation to counter your argument that "black dysfunctionality" is the thing holding blacks back.
@justanotherpeasant I got it by your statement that you blame the white man for EVERYTHING. That is ridiculous because you are basically saying you have no control over how you RESPOND to WS. If that is so, you are making the White man into a "GOD." We have a core of people who have knowledge of self and no all about this game and how it is played. WTF are they not networking and communicating with each other like I do every damn day? THERE IS NO EXCUSE for that boo-sit. Fuck a white man.
Feel free to label me bootlicker and to put my "comments on blast", I am more than prepared to debate you or anyone else who thinks they are going to label the people I come from (BLACK AFRICANS) as dysfunctional.
@justanotherpeasant #5. I really don't get the confrontational attitude, especially since I'm scratching my head at how we are not on the same page in the first place. I agree with most of what you are saying. The only thing I think we differ on, and to be honest I'm not sure we even do on that, is how we RESPOND to the system of White Supremacy. We have to respond in a systematic way if we are dealing with systematic problems. This isn't even an arguable point.
So I BLAME WHITES unequivocally for ALL our problems. I don't compromise with white supremacy by letting it of the hook and targetting my animus at black people's so called personal behaviour. The problem latterly is that too many of us have we've allowed ourselves to be deterred away from systemic cirtique and to view our problems as purely personal. Not this nigga. I blame whitey.
@justanotherpeasant #4. Question, since you blame whites unequivocally for ALL of our problems (which means to me you blame them for the context we live in) do you also blame them for how we RESPOND to the problems? You cannot escape what I've been talking about since day one. At some point you are going to have to RESPOND in a way that benefits you, your people, and your interests and the expense of White folks. If not, all you will do is analyze our ass kickings & pat yourself on the back 4 it
In that context, stealing food is a perfectly RATIONAL behaviour because it is intended to satisfy basic human need that I cannot satisfy any other way. Conversely, you could argue that some of our responses to DEPRIVATION (oppression) are IRRATIONAL and you'd be right, but again, that IRRATIONALITY must BE analysed in context, as the outcome of a DYSFUNCTIONAL experience and reality that is imposed on us from the OUTSIDE.
Furthermore, WHO decides which behaviours are detrimental to our people? No one is going to tell me that some behaviour I engage in is hurting our people especially if they're not going to put my behaviour in it's social, economic and cultural context. For example, if I steal food because I've been deprived of all the normal means of legitmately acquiring food, that aint due to a flaw in MY character it's due to a FLAW in the system/society.
@justanotherpeasant #2. Stealing food from a system we don't operate or control is not hurting our people collectively. It may be detrimental to the person stealing because they don't have a culture that has their back and they exist within a White supremacist construct. Hurting our people collectively would be if we were attempting to build an institution that could feed our people and you intentionally attempt to stop it for your own selfish needs at the expense of the people. Clear?
@justanotherpeasant White Supremacy is allowing you to think like that.You are not taking responsibility as a man for your own destiny.You put it in the hands of Whites then you want them to solve your problems.Someone like you needs to live in a Black country for a year and see when you have Black people who will beat you senseless for stealing.Or a Black police who would beat your brains in.You got it good under White Supremacy you dont even have to worry about the where your water comes from.
@justanotherpeasant Why are name calling?You have a bad attitude.You seem angry at being Black.Your problem is you cannot look at yourself in the mirror.
Sorry but I am signatory to an anti-FOOL treaty, an agreement between myself and the other signatories, to treat FOOLS with scorn until they affirm everything I say as CORRECT. That should include an affirmation that you are a FOOL, a PUBLIC apology to EVERYONE you've ever met or known for being a FOOL and a commitment to seek out FOOL re-hab, which you will stay with until you have your FOOLISHNESS under control. Now shoo move along
from 11:35 to 12:06 you admit that your focus is on the internal problems eg, poor leadership and the "personal behaviours" among our people that you say prevent blacks forming a nation.
Nah, I reject any analysis that omits any reference to white supremacy as the PRIMARY cause of whatever behaviours are deemed tobe preventing blacks from improving our condition.
@justanotherpeasant #1. White Supremacy can never be omitted from its responsibility of creating the situation our people are currently in. If that is the focus I blame White folks 100% for that. Even the silly Negroes who feel they are benefiting in some way from Whites being in control are still not to blame for the context of White Supremacy because they are serving the interests of White folks and not their own. So, no argument from me there. BUT...my focus is on how we RESPOND to it.
hotep ,uhuru and peace Mr Holip the video was very very well done and very clear, sometimes u gotta smash a fool then rebuild them or some just need to stay in the trash , peace
...make no mistake about it the majority of our ppl are unconscious multi culture fools marching around have white dreams, but we know the conscious will have no problem with this agenda on a massive scale, but its the unconscious that is the majority of us that we need to pull in for #'s to mean anything. It will have to be a very very clever discussion on ideas, the peeble in the pond or shock them into reality extremes are our only hope. Certainly our disunity is centered in media law culture
...& the consequences of ignoring their power, on the other hand our homeland & Africans in the world disporia are seen as a bunch of individuals divided & conquered with a powerless system of things in our homeland becuz it is controlled by make no mistake about it euro-peons & their masquot coon warlords. That is why I think a good topic for you to discuss would be; how do we a signaficant # if our ppl to start boycotting the 10% of coons in media,entainment & law that sell us out...
...for a few malfunctioning guns & some liquor(while I have never read evidence of any signaficant # of chefs/queens selling 100thousand & why build fortified dungeons on the shores if they were SOLD & not kidnapped & warred on? umm. But anyway they can't & have no influence on AfricanAmers. getting reparations, unlike the Jews who got & get billions or $'s & the Chinese got desendants got their reparations not becuz of sentiment but becuz they have respect for the power of their homelands..
...their ppl on Amerikkkan soil were attack on every side like us, our Motherland is not in charge of itself euro-peons & sellout individuals appointed by euro-peons run Africa by majority, example; The Sudan becuz of darkskin & many refusing Islam genocide,Somalia a fringe of sellouts control all the guns & strave their own ppl. ask who sponsors the guns? unlike jews our Motherland is so powerless & multi cultural that they have to go along with the story that they sold 100million Africans...
#1 we don't have a major town city or state w/economic worth that is Black becuz of our continued sheep to slaughter type mentality of individuality & multi-culturalism .When our ppl get any type of so called money the first thing we do is buy a euro-peon SUV loaded it up & drive away FROM Black ppl as far as we can get.& the only time we look back is to say look at those niccas there they aint shyt..#2 the Chinese,Jew etc. have a homeland that would have some power effect if their...
Peace Peace, good vid as usual...But I do have an answer to one point you brought up...Individualism in regards to the collective problem... How does a puddle start? with one drop of water right?. if as an individual you do not seek to grow and promote collective awareness and action then how can the collective be made better.. It all starts from one. IMO . May the winds of Heru greet you.
comrade!!! What the hell!! Why did you unsubscribe me?? Lmao.......j/k. Got the msg at the end of the vid lol. No big deal. I subscribed again. Just dont let it happen again lol. Uhuru to you, Ndugu!
You see the problem I have with your "approach" is your admitted focus on the so called cultural problems among blacks. Well for me, this is just more pathologizing of blacks themselves as dysfunctional, while leaving the SYSTEMIC causes of dysfunctional OUTCOMES among blacks unaddressed. Let's not forget that blacks DID NOT CHOOSE the circumstances in which our dysfunctions arise.
@justanotherpeasant "the problem I have with your "approach" is your admitted focus on the so called cultural problems among blacks."
I'm curious....where did I admit that? I remember saying in the video I focus on systematic problem solving. So if you are looking at the systemic causes of dysfunctional outcomes that is EXACTLY what I deal with and where I focus on systematic solutions to it.
One thing that did make me feel connected to the continent was this brother from Gambia. He showed my mother who showed me a pic of him and his fam in Gambia and they looked like black Americans. They didn't have the pronounced cheek bones like Nigerians or Ghainese. The brother told us that he was taught that most slaves that were brought to America was from Gambia
The one herdle I have with African nationalism, which u probably can help me clear, is that I feel too removed from Africa. Maybe by as much as 20 generations where as other groups here are only 2,3,or 4
@ZimM804 What makes something Afrikan culture is when it works in the interests of Afrikan people. Don't let anyone, including a continental Afrikan, attempt to tell you you are any less Afrikan than they are.
The number one problem our community has is that the same people who were enriched by the failed civil rights movement are still jumping their butts in front to lead when they should retire or be retired by the community. They have spawned a legion of poverty pimps and special Negro wanna bees.
I put 100% of the current blame on Afrikan nationalists though. We keep trying to convince people into the movement with zero action. People will follow success and will flock toward Afrikan success. T
Dr Amos Wilson - "Why does the Black man say, 'freedom is doing what I want to do!' and why is it that every thing he 'wants to do' enriches the European? ....problem is we are too wrapped into the many variants of white identification where unilaterally the very concept of any thing black [God forbid Afrikan] seems extreme or out of order...but its the natural context of social/economic/political power for everyone else
@MC0090 "Why does the Black man say, 'freedom is doing what I want to do!' and why is it that every thing he 'wants to do' enriches the European?" Is probably the most powerful question I've ever heard and it literally opened my eyes and changed my life. I will always LOVE Brotha Amos Wilson for that timeless jewel.
If niggaz aint talkin' solution then they just complaining. My solution for any Negro that is in 14th amendment status...Either Expatriate or participate in voting. Presidential voting is not as important as local elections. If you don't participate then you can't complain. If voting wasn't so important, they wouldn't try so hard to get you to not vote. I would actually rather niggas not vote if they not educated on the topics. Expatriate or Participate. Period.
@MrHolipsism doesnt that dude sound like a radical intergrationalist? how long have black people voted? and we are still where? lmao!!!! SMASH`EM HOLIP!!!!!
@MrHolipsism ..Rangle? Obama had to turn his back on him and he still didn't retire. Now thats an uneducated voters Dream. You have to organize in order for them to take your PROBLEMS serious,but they usurped us with NAACP. I didn't say it was gonna be easy...lol. Some people dedicate their lives to organizing around a particular cause...think about it. There were no jobs in the hood but the Gays got all types of rights in the 3 years he been there. Let me find out Homo's are better organized.
.....to the status quo; so the role those negros play is of making sure white men don't get "offended" or "threaten." This is the negro who don't want upset his master. These are the negros who still believe that the so-called "integration" is the solution to our 400 year old problem in spite of overwhelming FACTS to the contrary. To summarise things up, these are the kind of negro, that if we were--hypothetically speaking--to go to war against our oppressor, we'd have to kill first.
As we all are aware of, a massive awakening will not occur. Most people would rather ignore the problems and not get involved. People have been lulled into the story of someone coming to save them rather than understanding that we all have responsibility in aiding our community. Do we even have a community?? To me that's an even more probing question.
Brother MrHolipsism, all these spineless and token negros are always in opposition to any suggested approach as a solution to our collective problem we're facing here in America. These are the negros who assume an apologetical role between us and the white men whenever a conscious and clear-thinking brother--like yourself--speaks in terms of COLLECTIVINESS, UNITY, PAN-AFRICANISM, NATIONALISM, etc. Anything that's about the uplifting of our people is perceived as a threat and a challenge.......
You got a point.....Like really its like as black people we have to feel bad because we want represent were where from....yet every other nationality its okay for them to be proud of what their from and their culture its sad all the way around.
I'm of the type who doesn't like to use words like "boot licking negro" and such. All these terms are in my opinion hurt your message, and turn people off. I agree with your points that we need power in America, and in Africa. I haven't watched most of your videos, so you may have already covered this. You've established an objective, which is sound, now how do we make that objective a reality? What steps do we take to try and achieve this black economic power?
@ikanipo I don't have a message. If any message is being transmitted through me it is a message from the CULTURE. In terms of what steps we should take, I have my suggestions but this isn't a Mr Holipsism thing. This isn't a problem that affects just Mr Holipsism so why should I be the only one offering solutions? BLUE PRINT FOR BLACK POWER by Amos Wilson and DESTRUCTION OF BLACK CIVILIZATION by Chancellor Williams is where we should collectively start. I'm not reinventing the wheel, Fam.
I just returned from a bootlicker congregation, it caught me by suprise. This was perfect timing..got my spirit back up. Beware coons....."The days of the dumb nigger are numbered"
Great video Fam! Our brothers and sisters need to wake up collectively! They need to invest in the interest of our own rather in the interests of others. For many it will be too late.
Very good talking points. Our people in many senses are not concerned about coming together. Fighting each other and remaining divided is much easier(and part of the elitist plan).
you can't save people who don't want to be saved or who don't realize they need saving.all you can do is get together with like minded people and start working.
profitofdoom88 3 weeks ago
We black people suffer from ni*ger ignorance
thetainos737 1 month ago
I've been saying this for years. You cannot teach economics to a people that have no protocol. The shit really is elementary
TheOpinionatedDude 1 month ago
Peace Brother, longtime.
BIGRICK1961 1 month ago
I seen a few of these videos and comments trying to get at ya man Had to get a dose of this to restabilize. Thank you!
solreavir 4 months ago
Some assshole fell asleep on the mouse button and clicked dislike.
solreavir 4 months ago
Black People Still Going To The white Man For EVERYTHING..
BlackPowerBlackUnity 6 months ago
And just to follow-up, his desire to maintainly benefit himself has several effects. He creates jobs/options for his people other than illegal means of sustenance thus displacing drug trades and other crimes. His business must directly address a societal need or it will fail to launch, thus a second benefit from the individual. He attracts the youth and other african centered individuals to start their OWN business. Seeing the benefit of entrepreneurship is an important motivator for others.
playaplayag7 6 months ago
@playaplayag7 No matter how successful an entrepreneur is or how many individuals they influence it does not eliminate the fact that we COLLECTIVELY do not have our own land and resources and materials to control the means of PRODUCTION and MANUFACTURING COLLECTIVELY in our so-called communities. Individualistic thinking usually only benefits the individual and that premise of everyone else benefiting incidentally from it is the same mindset of Black leadership and y they have no accountability
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism U R ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS! I LOVE IT! KEEP IT UP AND PEACE
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Are there individual solutions to collective problems? I promise not to muddy the water on this one, and I'll be brief... My answer is yes. When an african centered individual sets out with the desire to be a successful entrepreneur, the steps he takes to reach that goal should automatically benefit his people if he hires qualified individuals in his community. He doesnt put it to a vote or wait for validation from his african centered brothers. He decides and the community benefits directly.
playaplayag7 6 months ago
@playaplayag7 I disagree. One individual does not solve a collective problem. SOME people may benefit from what one individual does but that hardly eliminates the collective problem that affects the ENTIRE community. See, that example is the perfect example of the type of thinking we need to get away from because it does muddy the water whether intentional or not. WE MUST THINK AND ACT SYSTEMATICALLY IF WE WANT TO SOLVE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS. This isn't even an arguable point.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
White Supremacy is used as a crutch for silly wining girl like niggas to sit on their ass and wait for their husband the White man to help them.When someone says let build our own nation real men listen the phoney Negroes have a million objections and excuses to delay and avoid the truth.
makkool 6 months ago
We don't need Africa to improve our communities, we need collectivism among African Americans. We make up 13% of the population and have billions in spending power, yet as you correctly pointed out, all of our money goes to other communities. Africa is not the solution for Black Americans. We need individual achievement, group cohesiveness, and an acceptance of capitalism. Asians don't succeed because of their ties to Asia, they succeed based off the three factors I just mentioned.
rjhome1 6 months ago
@rjhome1 I respectfully disagree with you. The only people who say "we don't need Afrika" are people with a woeful lack of knowledge and ignorance about what a Nation is and what an infrastructure is. If you want to establish a nation inside of the borders of the U.S. where is your nation going to get the raw materials to manufacture and produce goods? Since you don't have any here you control you are going to have to import them.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Where are your seaports and airports for trade and commerce that you own here in the U.S.? If you have trade agreements, who will you trade with and what will you trade? Afrikans in America only have one major export to trade with other nations; LABOR. So unless you are willing to work for Mexican wages there goes that idea. No offense, but you really haven't thought this thing through.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@rjhome1 Group cohesiveness come BEFORE individual achievement and we don't have to accept capitalism because we already have. We just don't make it work for ourselves because their is no WE no US and no OUR. IT DOESN'T EXIST. CULTURE is what make a group have cohesion. So to attempt to have group cohesion without it sets you up for failure before you even get out of the gate. You cannot disconnect from the root and think you will grow. You will suffer and then you will die.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
One more factor you failed to mention; CULTURE. Are you seriously going to argue with me that Asians do not have a STRONG cultural foundation that dictates how they move and operate in the world? Your omission of it is telling. If it is the glue that holds group cohesiveness, individual achievement and knowledge of the context they live in when they are in a foreign land (a.k.a. acceptance of capitalism) for Asians...why is it omitted from the equation when it comes to Black Afrikan People?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
I just started listening to you vids and you make some good points, but as far as this African nationalist thing, sorry bro, you're way out in left field. We can't even organize in a 2 mile radius, how the HELL we gonna organize globally.
And if we were to negotiate trade and business agreements with Africa, which country would we do business in? Nigger, Ethiopia, Sudan, Angola or a better question, which warlord or tyrant leader would we trust? cont ....
rjhome1 6 months ago
@rjhome1 Which warlord or tyrant do you trust in the U.S.? Business isn't about trust. Business is about mutually beneficial interests. You have nothing to trade with but your labor and you are attempting to export your labor to other nations within this nation IN A BUYER'S MARKET. That is why the cost of your labor is constantly being DEVALUED because they dictate how much your labor is worth. Your competition would be, and is currently, Mexicans. Need I say more?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism, You just proved Bro why it"s ALWAYS good to think before you speak.
Wisebrother78 6 months ago
@Wisebrother78 Thank you, Brotha! ONE
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@rjhome1 I believe this is really Black Achievement talking.
makkool 6 months ago
@makkool Of course it is, Bro. LOL
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
By far, one of your best posts ever. The quicker we can lambast & jettison the 'usual' anti-Afrikan, anti-Afrikan nation statements once and for all, the quicker we can then come together on surer footing to move us forward to actually changing our conditions as a collective. There are more ppl who like to talk about the problems ALL DAY, than there are those who actually want solutions; so the sooner they are exposed & moved away from, the better. Keep up the MAGNIFICENT WORK!!!
AfrikasReAscention 6 months ago
@AfrikasReAscention Thank you, Fam! Can't wait to your next show!
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Real Talk!!!!
Wisebrother78 6 months ago
the greatest lie thats has been perpetrated upon us institutionally that we believe is that we are out side of humanity we are outside of the grace of God _ thus the concept of nation hood is all but a delusion as is any sense of respect among your peers in the human collective ....
MC0090 6 months ago
4b@Mrholipsism
Now we can go back to Africa, integrate further into the WS-mist "mainstream", opt out, co-opt in, make peace with WS, or FIGHT IT. That is why it is important for us NOT TO LOSE FOCUS. That requires calm and rational analysis NOT blame of our own people.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant Listen...If you cannot organize a lemonade stand on a national level how in the hell are you going to fight WS? Maybe you need to listen to my vids before you write these comments because I have been quite clear. BUT...for you I will break it down once more....
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Within a socio--economic & political context there is no WE, no US, and no OUR. Afrikan people are currently scattered individualists aligned by aesthetic similarities. So when people talk about what WE have to do and how WS is against US and how WE have to teach OUR babies, I always ask the same thing....Who are you talking about? Until we establish a WE, an US and an OUR don't even think about going against anybody, especially the WS system which controls the context.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant I have no more time for debating. Now, I want to know if you consider me an ally or an enemy. This way I can determine what to do next. All this other stuff is verbal and mental and linguistic masturbation and a waste of time between people who are on the same team. So, which one is it....friend or foe?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism
you asked - friend or foe?
Uh? ok
Well I'm black man of AFRICAN ASCENT who loves the people I come from, if that makes me a man's foe, then so be it. If that makes a man friendly to me, that makes him my BROTHER. Btw I don't do linguistic masturbation, (whatever that silliness means) I have a core ideology in which LOVE of self and the people I come from - (not self hate) motivates my actions.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant that silliness called linguistic masturbation is what you just did. I asked if I was friend or foe and you go on yet another diatribe and preamble never just answering the question. I've been down this road before and it usually ends with the person revealing they are not about consensus or coming to common ground. So, since you didn't say I was a friend I will make the next appropriate action and sever this communication. Be well in your endeavors.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
3b.@Mrholipsism
In fact, I'd say that we can measure our progress by the degree to which we are "DIS-UNITED" Our "disunity" actually proves the number of options we have now that we didn't have previously. When we were enslaved there were only two possibilities - be a slave or be FREE.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant WHAT???!!! Are you serious?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
4c@MrHolipsism
WHAT???!!! Are you serious?
Yes.
There was probably more black unity during slavery than there is among blacks today in neo-slavery. That we disagree on range of key issue shows the extent to which we have options we didn't have in Slavery.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant Thank you, Capt. Obvious. That wasn't what I was saying, "WHAT???!!!" to. It was this: "In fact, I'd say that we can measure our progress by the degree to which we are "DIS-UNITED"
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
2b.@Mrholipsism
Indeed, I strongly disagree that our response to WS has been inadequate. It has merely, thus far, been insufficient to completely neutralize WS as a factor determining outcomes in our lives. But we've scored many important victories against it, in times when the odds were far greater against us than now. This is not empty rhetoric, it is a rational appraisal of the situation, that we rarely hear from ANYONE
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant inadequate and insufficient are fundamentally the same thing. You are playing semantics right now. Why are you accusing me of something I have not done and where is this discussion going? You are bringing up points that support what I've been talking about all along yet you are attempting to use them against me as if you are dropping science against a stance I have not taken.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
2c@MrHolipsism
No
Inadequate for our purposes would be - offering a weak response to WS. That WOULD be our fault. However, 'insufficient' is not having the means to complete a task. Eg, you could hardly say that Marcus Garvey's or Nat Turner's responses to WS were inadequate (weak), however their responses were insufficient to bring about the goal of liberating blacks.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
3c.@MrHolipsism
Theirs is a work in progress, that it is our duty to continue. It's a long terms project that takes requires a multi-generational commitment to bring to fruition.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism Brother Holip these are Niggas that stand on the corner selling tapes on WS they dont want us messing up their bread and butter.They have no intention of seeing WS destroyed.They cake off of it.
makkool 6 months ago
1.@Mrholipsism
I reject the terms of your question. Why must blacks be "blamed" for what you say is an inadequate response to WS? Isn't WS at fault for forcing a situation upon us that requires us to respond to WS made problems as well as the normal problems of survival that every peoples must contend with? In that light, I'd say we should FORGIVE ourselves, our "failings" and build on our MANY successes in combatting WS, NOT blame ourselves for the as yet, imcomplete task of ending WS.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant You are giving the White man powers "GOD" doesn't even possess. If the White man can control not only the context but how you respond to it then this thing is a wrap. What's next? A socio-economic & political infrastructure will only happen when they give their permission?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
1c.@MrHolipsism
Uh
How on earth did you get 'whitey has God like powers', out of anything I said?
I neither said nor implied any such thing. I simply named WS as the PRIMARY obstacle to African Liberation to counter your argument that "black dysfunctionality" is the thing holding blacks back.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant I got it by your statement that you blame the white man for EVERYTHING. That is ridiculous because you are basically saying you have no control over how you RESPOND to WS. If that is so, you are making the White man into a "GOD." We have a core of people who have knowledge of self and no all about this game and how it is played. WTF are they not networking and communicating with each other like I do every damn day? THERE IS NO EXCUSE for that boo-sit. Fuck a white man.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism
Well ok, you're choosing to reject my analysis as I reject yours.
You blame black people for our problems and I blame white supremacy for our problems.
I'm done.
Thanks for letting me post.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant First, I don't blame Black people for our problems. But its cool. I'm done too. Thanx for posting.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
5.MrHolipsism
Feel free to label me bootlicker and to put my "comments on blast", I am more than prepared to debate you or anyone else who thinks they are going to label the people I come from (BLACK AFRICANS) as dysfunctional.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant #5. I really don't get the confrontational attitude, especially since I'm scratching my head at how we are not on the same page in the first place. I agree with most of what you are saying. The only thing I think we differ on, and to be honest I'm not sure we even do on that, is how we RESPOND to the system of White Supremacy. We have to respond in a systematic way if we are dealing with systematic problems. This isn't even an arguable point.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
4.@MrHolipsism
So I BLAME WHITES unequivocally for ALL our problems. I don't compromise with white supremacy by letting it of the hook and targetting my animus at black people's so called personal behaviour. The problem latterly is that too many of us have we've allowed ourselves to be deterred away from systemic cirtique and to view our problems as purely personal. Not this nigga. I blame whitey.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant #4. Question, since you blame whites unequivocally for ALL of our problems (which means to me you blame them for the context we live in) do you also blame them for how we RESPOND to the problems? You cannot escape what I've been talking about since day one. At some point you are going to have to RESPOND in a way that benefits you, your people, and your interests and the expense of White folks. If not, all you will do is analyze our ass kickings & pat yourself on the back 4 it
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
3.@MrHolipsism
In that context, stealing food is a perfectly RATIONAL behaviour because it is intended to satisfy basic human need that I cannot satisfy any other way. Conversely, you could argue that some of our responses to DEPRIVATION (oppression) are IRRATIONAL and you'd be right, but again, that IRRATIONALITY must BE analysed in context, as the outcome of a DYSFUNCTIONAL experience and reality that is imposed on us from the OUTSIDE.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant #3. No argument from me. I concur 1000%
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
2.@MrHolipsism
Furthermore, WHO decides which behaviours are detrimental to our people? No one is going to tell me that some behaviour I engage in is hurting our people especially if they're not going to put my behaviour in it's social, economic and cultural context. For example, if I steal food because I've been deprived of all the normal means of legitmately acquiring food, that aint due to a flaw in MY character it's due to a FLAW in the system/society.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant #2. Stealing food from a system we don't operate or control is not hurting our people collectively. It may be detrimental to the person stealing because they don't have a culture that has their back and they exist within a White supremacist construct. Hurting our people collectively would be if we were attempting to build an institution that could feed our people and you intentionally attempt to stop it for your own selfish needs at the expense of the people. Clear?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant White Supremacy is allowing you to think like that.You are not taking responsibility as a man for your own destiny.You put it in the hands of Whites then you want them to solve your problems.Someone like you needs to live in a Black country for a year and see when you have Black people who will beat you senseless for stealing.Or a Black police who would beat your brains in.You got it good under White Supremacy you dont even have to worry about the where your water comes from.
makkool 6 months ago
@makkool
Idiot what the hell are you talking about and why are you addressing it to me?
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant Why are name calling?You have a bad attitude.You seem angry at being Black.Your problem is you cannot look at yourself in the mirror.
makkool 6 months ago
@makkool
Sorry but I am signatory to an anti-FOOL treaty, an agreement between myself and the other signatories, to treat FOOLS with scorn until they affirm everything I say as CORRECT. That should include an affirmation that you are a FOOL, a PUBLIC apology to EVERYONE you've ever met or known for being a FOOL and a commitment to seek out FOOL re-hab, which you will stay with until you have your FOOLISHNESS under control. Now shoo move along
FOOL.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
1.@MrHolipsism
from 11:35 to 12:06 you admit that your focus is on the internal problems eg, poor leadership and the "personal behaviours" among our people that you say prevent blacks forming a nation.
Nah, I reject any analysis that omits any reference to white supremacy as the PRIMARY cause of whatever behaviours are deemed tobe preventing blacks from improving our condition.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant #1. White Supremacy can never be omitted from its responsibility of creating the situation our people are currently in. If that is the focus I blame White folks 100% for that. Even the silly Negroes who feel they are benefiting in some way from Whites being in control are still not to blame for the context of White Supremacy because they are serving the interests of White folks and not their own. So, no argument from me there. BUT...my focus is on how we RESPOND to it.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
hotep ,uhuru and peace Mr Holip the video was very very well done and very clear, sometimes u gotta smash a fool then rebuild them or some just need to stay in the trash , peace
Brotha:)
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
...make no mistake about it the majority of our ppl are unconscious multi culture fools marching around have white dreams, but we know the conscious will have no problem with this agenda on a massive scale, but its the unconscious that is the majority of us that we need to pull in for #'s to mean anything. It will have to be a very very clever discussion on ideas, the peeble in the pond or shock them into reality extremes are our only hope. Certainly our disunity is centered in media law culture
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
...& the consequences of ignoring their power, on the other hand our homeland & Africans in the world disporia are seen as a bunch of individuals divided & conquered with a powerless system of things in our homeland becuz it is controlled by make no mistake about it euro-peons & their masquot coon warlords. That is why I think a good topic for you to discuss would be; how do we a signaficant # if our ppl to start boycotting the 10% of coons in media,entainment & law that sell us out...
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
...for a few malfunctioning guns & some liquor(while I have never read evidence of any signaficant # of chefs/queens selling 100thousand & why build fortified dungeons on the shores if they were SOLD & not kidnapped & warred on? umm. But anyway they can't & have no influence on AfricanAmers. getting reparations, unlike the Jews who got & get billions or $'s & the Chinese got desendants got their reparations not becuz of sentiment but becuz they have respect for the power of their homelands..
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
...their ppl on Amerikkkan soil were attack on every side like us, our Motherland is not in charge of itself euro-peons & sellout individuals appointed by euro-peons run Africa by majority, example; The Sudan becuz of darkskin & many refusing Islam genocide,Somalia a fringe of sellouts control all the guns & strave their own ppl. ask who sponsors the guns? unlike jews our Motherland is so powerless & multi cultural that they have to go along with the story that they sold 100million Africans...
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
@nothinelse2seehere1 That is your excuse for being in America?
makkool 6 months ago
@makkool wtf! what u typed makes no sense what so ever, get a clue and dont respond back to me buck dancing coon
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
#1 we don't have a major town city or state w/economic worth that is Black becuz of our continued sheep to slaughter type mentality of individuality & multi-culturalism .When our ppl get any type of so called money the first thing we do is buy a euro-peon SUV loaded it up & drive away FROM Black ppl as far as we can get.& the only time we look back is to say look at those niccas there they aint shyt..#2 the Chinese,Jew etc. have a homeland that would have some power effect if their...
nothinelse2seehere1 6 months ago
Peace Peace, good vid as usual...But I do have an answer to one point you brought up...Individualism in regards to the collective problem... How does a puddle start? with one drop of water right?. if as an individual you do not seek to grow and promote collective awareness and action then how can the collective be made better.. It all starts from one. IMO . May the winds of Heru greet you.
thevoid385 6 months ago
comrade!!! What the hell!! Why did you unsubscribe me?? Lmao.......j/k. Got the msg at the end of the vid lol. No big deal. I subscribed again. Just dont let it happen again lol. Uhuru to you, Ndugu!
SixFiveSonofaSlave93 6 months ago
@SixFiveSonofaSlave93 LOL I'll try not to, Family! ;-)
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
1 person didn't like getting smashed
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism
You see the problem I have with your "approach" is your admitted focus on the so called cultural problems among blacks. Well for me, this is just more pathologizing of blacks themselves as dysfunctional, while leaving the SYSTEMIC causes of dysfunctional OUTCOMES among blacks unaddressed. Let's not forget that blacks DID NOT CHOOSE the circumstances in which our dysfunctions arise.
justanotherpeasant 6 months ago
@justanotherpeasant "the problem I have with your "approach" is your admitted focus on the so called cultural problems among blacks."
I'm curious....where did I admit that? I remember saying in the video I focus on systematic problem solving. So if you are looking at the systemic causes of dysfunctional outcomes that is EXACTLY what I deal with and where I focus on systematic solutions to it.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Fav'd & Subbed
OuttaControlTroll 6 months ago
One thing that did make me feel connected to the continent was this brother from Gambia. He showed my mother who showed me a pic of him and his fam in Gambia and they looked like black Americans. They didn't have the pronounced cheek bones like Nigerians or Ghainese. The brother told us that he was taught that most slaves that were brought to America was from Gambia
ZimM804 6 months ago
The one herdle I have with African nationalism, which u probably can help me clear, is that I feel too removed from Africa. Maybe by as much as 20 generations where as other groups here are only 2,3,or 4
ZimM804 6 months ago
@ZimM804 Africanisms in American Culture, Second Edition (Blacks in the Diaspora) by Joseph E. Holloway
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@ZimM804 What makes something Afrikan culture is when it works in the interests of Afrikan people. Don't let anyone, including a continental Afrikan, attempt to tell you you are any less Afrikan than they are.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
The number one problem our community has is that the same people who were enriched by the failed civil rights movement are still jumping their butts in front to lead when they should retire or be retired by the community. They have spawned a legion of poverty pimps and special Negro wanna bees.
I put 100% of the current blame on Afrikan nationalists though. We keep trying to convince people into the movement with zero action. People will follow success and will flock toward Afrikan success. T
TeamAfrikaMemphis 6 months ago
@TeamAfrikaMemphis TEACH!
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Dr Amos Wilson - "Why does the Black man say, 'freedom is doing what I want to do!' and why is it that every thing he 'wants to do' enriches the European? ....problem is we are too wrapped into the many variants of white identification where unilaterally the very concept of any thing black [God forbid Afrikan] seems extreme or out of order...but its the natural context of social/economic/political power for everyone else
MC0090 6 months ago
@MC0090 where as those nationalities or ethnicites have strong cultural roots/ties
MC0090 6 months ago
@MC0090 "Why does the Black man say, 'freedom is doing what I want to do!' and why is it that every thing he 'wants to do' enriches the European?" Is probably the most powerful question I've ever heard and it literally opened my eyes and changed my life. I will always LOVE Brotha Amos Wilson for that timeless jewel.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism Amen-Ra to that brother .... my whole outlook changed likewise
MC0090 6 months ago
If niggaz aint talkin' solution then they just complaining. My solution for any Negro that is in 14th amendment status...Either Expatriate or participate in voting. Presidential voting is not as important as local elections. If you don't participate then you can't complain. If voting wasn't so important, they wouldn't try so hard to get you to not vote. I would actually rather niggas not vote if they not educated on the topics. Expatriate or Participate. Period.
LordKaseem 6 months ago
@LordKaseem Vote for who?
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism doesnt that dude sound like a radical intergrationalist? how long have black people voted? and we are still where? lmao!!!! SMASH`EM HOLIP!!!!!
muffinman5323 6 months ago
"I would actually rather niggas not vote if they not educated on the topics"
That already exists. It's called CHARLES RANGEL
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
@MrHolipsism ..Rangle? Obama had to turn his back on him and he still didn't retire. Now thats an uneducated voters Dream. You have to organize in order for them to take your PROBLEMS serious,but they usurped us with NAACP. I didn't say it was gonna be easy...lol. Some people dedicate their lives to organizing around a particular cause...think about it. There were no jobs in the hood but the Gays got all types of rights in the 3 years he been there. Let me find out Homo's are better organized.
LordKaseem 6 months ago
@LordKaseem Let me take the suspense away for you, Family....THEY ARE. Do a google search on the Stonewall Riots/Uprising
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Mr Holipsism your the best!Koreans and Chinese Nationalist banging on the White man!Classic I have to call you the Great One for now on.
makkool 6 months ago 5
@makkool LOL. Thanx Family! ONE
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
You mean so called jews. Thought i would just point that out.
1oftxfinest09 6 months ago
@1oftxfinest09 Duly noted, Family. Thank you!
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Great video fam, peace
Mhoohing36 6 months ago
.....to the status quo; so the role those negros play is of making sure white men don't get "offended" or "threaten." This is the negro who don't want upset his master. These are the negros who still believe that the so-called "integration" is the solution to our 400 year old problem in spite of overwhelming FACTS to the contrary. To summarise things up, these are the kind of negro, that if we were--hypothetically speaking--to go to war against our oppressor, we'd have to kill first.
pedrom41 6 months ago
As we all are aware of, a massive awakening will not occur. Most people would rather ignore the problems and not get involved. People have been lulled into the story of someone coming to save them rather than understanding that we all have responsibility in aiding our community. Do we even have a community?? To me that's an even more probing question.
SuperPhdiva 6 months ago
Brother MrHolipsism, all these spineless and token negros are always in opposition to any suggested approach as a solution to our collective problem we're facing here in America. These are the negros who assume an apologetical role between us and the white men whenever a conscious and clear-thinking brother--like yourself--speaks in terms of COLLECTIVINESS, UNITY, PAN-AFRICANISM, NATIONALISM, etc. Anything that's about the uplifting of our people is perceived as a threat and a challenge.......
pedrom41 6 months ago
You got a point.....Like really its like as black people we have to feel bad because we want represent were where from....yet every other nationality its okay for them to be proud of what their from and their culture its sad all the way around.
JiaIreland 6 months ago
I'm of the type who doesn't like to use words like "boot licking negro" and such. All these terms are in my opinion hurt your message, and turn people off. I agree with your points that we need power in America, and in Africa. I haven't watched most of your videos, so you may have already covered this. You've established an objective, which is sound, now how do we make that objective a reality? What steps do we take to try and achieve this black economic power?
ikanipo 6 months ago
@ikanipo I don't have a message. If any message is being transmitted through me it is a message from the CULTURE. In terms of what steps we should take, I have my suggestions but this isn't a Mr Holipsism thing. This isn't a problem that affects just Mr Holipsism so why should I be the only one offering solutions? BLUE PRINT FOR BLACK POWER by Amos Wilson and DESTRUCTION OF BLACK CIVILIZATION by Chancellor Williams is where we should collectively start. I'm not reinventing the wheel, Fam.
MrHolipsism 6 months ago
Great Vid. Brother holip
willtheezy99 6 months ago
I just returned from a bootlicker congregation, it caught me by suprise. This was perfect timing..got my spirit back up. Beware coons....."The days of the dumb nigger are numbered"
HazeWaveTV 6 months ago
Great video Fam! Our brothers and sisters need to wake up collectively! They need to invest in the interest of our own rather in the interests of others. For many it will be too late.
Revolutionary36 6 months ago
Very good talking points. Our people in many senses are not concerned about coming together. Fighting each other and remaining divided is much easier(and part of the elitist plan).
SuperPhdiva 6 months ago