A "chicks" fault? I'm afraid you've mistaken the propensities of the wrong demographic. It's not the guys who persistently lean on a discrimination explanation as a nigh on default.
The guys that are administering a seriously honed dose of reality to the fulminating forces behind delusional feminism are at an opposing polarity of accuracy. They speak the truth and speak it well. Feminists (as you appear to be) seem consider emoting and ranting as a form of reason. You're losing.
@KadrickNinness aside from the fact that it was the 6 or 7 barely comprehensible posts below mine that inspired my comment, guess what...? it was bait... & U TOOK IT! & watch a catch; "... an opposing polarity of accuracy..."; you know why use one word when you can attempt to sound intelligent with pointless, ill-fitting verbosity ....WANKER. and just how is questioning pathetic grammar etc, considered "ranting"? that wasn't an invitation for dialogue, so dont answer that, i'm tired of idiocy.
@KadrickNinness Given your apparent, if somewhat incongruent belief in "speaking the truth well" i think what you meant to type was; "Verbosity is only a valid claim when the sentiments WOULD REMAIN fully intact, when drastically reducible." Also "Feminists... seem (?) consider emoting...": I think you were so caught up in your own "rant" you may have omitted a word. You're lost... & your obsession with the primacy of "reason" appears not to be helping you find your way.
Your critique of the syntax is accurate. Could have also been phrased as "fully intact if drastically reduced". I actually recall tweaking that sentence in the interests of brevity, since you were so apparantly averse to protraction. Jumbled context can result from this happening in haste.
But then, you don't see me cherry picking neglected capitals, commas and lax spelling (chics? Is that a parody?). I'm more interested in the intended point of view.
@KadrickNinness "chics": yes, even the pop-culture spelling, was a parody (like my polemic "sardonic rant")however there were actual points, but i can see that as we dont know each other, you may understandably not got where i was coming from. i'm not so much averse to protraction, as it's often needed & illuminative: i did however from your clearly impassioned language sense a level of emotion, which i consider necessary & admirable, not just ranting. btw i'm no "feminist". good talking to you.
@KadrickNinness any word or spelling variation of such, once used regularly in discourse, achieves its own legitimacy & this is part of the "evolution" of language, though dictionaries often take years to document these changes. yes "chic";([pron; sheek] which requires a notation above the "i" which isn't on my keybooard) means stylish, but i have seen numerous examples spanning a fairly wide social & literary spectrum where "chic/s" has been used to refer to women, so i consider my use correct.
I'M A MENS RIGHTS ACTIVIST I SIT AT HOME MASTURBATING 24/7 COZ I CANT FORM FRIENDSHIPS WITH REAL WOMEN COZ IVE GOT ALL THIS FREUDIAN REPRESSED HATRED BOILING AWAY INSIDE... AFTER I CUM I CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP WHERE I DREAM OF A WORLD UNDER SHARIA LAW BUT WE DONT CALL IT THAT!
Wow, your sardonic rant about masterbation and sharia law was such an abysmal achievement in the art of Strawman torching, it was almost impressive. The sad thing is you exhibit signs of a higher intellect than is exhibit by such limp trolling. If you gave away the shambolic mischaracterizations, you might actually find some neutral territory with those that endorse egalitarianism. Like me.
@themaniusedtob i think you mean "due" not "do"... not surprising though if you are accepting what's brought to you by the CATO Institute... these people are pro-big tobacco for fucks sake!
I like what I've seen of Warren Farrell quite a lot... He presents good, calm, thought-out debates in the true spirit of equality- he doesn't get angry and start saying things like "Women need to stop being morons", like a lot of guys debating men's rights seem to. He knows a calm, non-biased debate is the way to win support, rather than getting just as angry and just as prejudiced as the extreme feminists men's rights activists want to beat.
@Darwinsmistake I agree to an extent. I think a calm demeanor is a good way to win support, but support means nothing if passion is not present. If you can hear a story about a talk show poking fun at a mutilated man and not get angry and not express your anger, then you don't really care about the issue in the first place. If you see that and don't think "Well wait, why do those stupid cunts get to do that when men cant?" and dont get upset about the unfairness, you dont really care at all.
I think the best solution to remove the so-call pay-gap is simply to train women in bein better to negotiate salary. That would be a better solution rather than go troug law. But that for once would mean that feminists should look for a solution that actually works. Gosh no....
@Kenshiroit i wouldnt say that, they need to start sacrificing the thing they want like kids and things like that. if they want more, then they have to really try hard. there are women who do it, i have seen them.
@judesama11 no doub, but the main problem is a lot of women either they dont care (some guys dont care either) or they dont know how to do. I think that would be a goodand reasonable solution, rather than hope for a mirakle or a special law.
@judesama11 ..nah, women don't have to try hard, they just keep making laws to assist them getting "raises" every so often. Women have not and will not work as hard as men given the current laws and women attitudes.
@luckybozo1 most women yes, not all women. i would say about 20 percent would actually so something and take advantage. but the rest of the 80 just want everything handed to them on a silver platter.
@Kenshiroit First women have to realize that the pay gap has nothing to do with sexism but is due to their negotiate skills and the career choices. So far, they are blaming men. What you are doing is you are giving them more excuses to blame men. It would be like training a feminist how the law works and the only thing she would do is to use that skill and ONLY use it to her advantage! There are countless organizations helping women don't you think we should think about men for once?
While Farrell try to help women to gain higher salary, he should also debunk a lot of those false accusations women have been putting on men without real scientific prove.
Funny... the CATO institutes mentions an income gap between men and women, but don't give a shit about the income gap between the rich and poor (which is far-far larger).
It's very telling that most feminists concentrate on the income gap when discussing issues of inequality. you rarely hear anything about political inequality, unequel access to social servces etc. it's always about money.
@lamentate07 Why would they? They influence the political parties with their organizations and most of the social services are catered to women. Like you said they concentrate on income gap because women believe that money means happiness and were told that they would get respected and would be making household decisions if they outearn their bfs and husbands as if they actually earn it! Also, they go where the money is...by suing companies for sexual harrassments.
now then he got elected 3 times to that satans nest. but did he accept. and why wopuld they want him 3 TIMES if he wasnt a mangina....not saying he is but something sounds fishy
@TENNSUMITSUMA He probably was a mangina but dont forget that he later wrote probably the best mens rights book to date "The Myth of Male Power" and he is currently writing a book about the boy crisis with John Gray.
So he has redeemed himself, he probably thought that feminism was all about equality cause he left right after they came out against shared parenting (this is in his book "The Myth of Male Power").
2:46 yeah right, they couldnt be there, they chose not to be there because logic would be there, and logic is worse than a sodomy gang rape to a feminist
"GLASS CEILING" a manufactured excuse women use to justify themselves as to why they're not promoted to a position when a better candidate is choses and happens to be male.
"KISS UP/SUCK UP" a manufactured excuse women use to justify themselves as to why they're not promoted to a position when a better candidate is choses and happens to be female.
"MIRROR OF ACCOUNTABILITY" somewhere most women have never looked for answers to tough questions they're much to week to face.
I do not believe a women that does the exact same job as a man anywhere in North America would get paid less. That to me is another one of the many manipulations/lies created by the feminist pigs of this world, which are many and have caused great harm to society over the last 30 to 40 years. In addition, I find women on a job site tend to be less efficient at their work.
comments on this board are pretty childish so far. anyone here over 18???
while working in business, i have noticed that men earn more in part because they won't work for less money . women want/need flexibility in the workplace. men need to be earners and will not stay around if they are not being paid. women get paid less because they will accept a lower paying position. it's not necessarily a bad thing. i think it is a male assumption that pay is everything.
@smedheat I agree - stop lumping all women together saying they don't want to work because they might break a nail or whatever. I agree that women tend to want different things one of which is flexibility because they might want a child for example. Men still tend to be the main breadwinners so go for the jobs with the most money & SOME feel they want to provide as much as possible for their families or see it as a status symbol. Women don't TEND to see it like that as much...
I just studied reading his book The Myth of Male Power, and it looks to be a very interesting read. So... is Farrell himself a libertarian or a Democrat? I assume he's not a Republican. After all, he is still kind of a feminist at heart and was a long-time NOW leader. Or is he a moderate?
@trueswordsexpert0909 Me please. I don't think there is a wage gap anyway but it would be good to see evidence of this if you still have it... even though you commented this 6 months ago!
It depends on the labor. Do you think you're gonna find a buttload of women wanting to fish crab in Alaska, or how about working in a mine? Or maybe drilling oil..thats why women dont get paid more. Fewer women are willing to put up with the physical labor or stress of such jobs, but they want all the spoils
Not to mention most women are just worthless. The military is a perfect example. As soon as they get in they start having babies and are taken off their real job for 9 months. Why would someone deal with this when they can just get an 18 year old in there who is gonna do the work. Men use logic while women use emotion and they usually chase easy admin type jobs. They suck at most things like operating machinery, using guns, physical labor, mechanics, etc.
@Warpath2198 Not to mention that the cream-puff jobs going to women, in years past would go to men who had an arm or leg blown off, or were shell-shocked as a very minor reward for serving 2-3-4 terms of service for his country.
@Warpath2198 'Most women are just worthless'. 'They suck at most things...' yeah... OK... whatever. Mysoginyst much? Do you think that about your mum too?
YES, he is calculating for the same jobs, qualification, consecutive years, overtime ect ect. It's feminist studies that glaze over essential variables to promote the "All men discriminate" agenda. For example, women who have never been married and who have never had children earn 117% of their male counterparts. ~ Dr. Warren Farrell
Among the many factors which influence male/female economic differences, the most elusive is employer discrimination ~ Dr. Thomas Sowell
It is even worse: "This segregation of women into different jobs than men is one of the primary factors explaining the continuing wage gap between men and women, where women, on average, bring home just 78 cents on the male dollar."
They average over every single profession and then come up with 78%. That is complete bullshit. They are not comparing men and women with the same job, qualification and so on.
No there is no typo. The studies show that the more qualified and more senior women are, the bigger the disparity. If you put in your time and achieve success, why are you still getting paid less?
B) I have seen a study which says higher education lower "pay gap", if such a thing exists. I love it when studies use magically appearing numbers without explanation modifying a questionable number.
C) Some jobs have a payment depending on your skills as a negotiator. If women suck at that and therefore get lower wages there is nothing wrong here.
as more people get educated the education loses value because it becomes more common. better payed jobs due to other factors like risk, hours/week and hard manual labour are still done mostly by men and gain value.
There is one reason women make less than men - DISCRIMINATION. As a woman who has dealt with discrimination at every job level, I find the premise that the pay gap lies with women and their behaviors truly insulting. This is tantamount to writing a book in the 1970's titled, "Why African American Males Make Less than White Males". The huge infusion of talent as a result of women in the workplace has threatened many men, and they resort to discrimination - period.
First of all, men don't work harder than women. Men may have an advantage at certain jobs that are physically demanding, but there is no data whatsoever to support your claim when comparing nurses, teachers, lawyers, or accountants based on gender.
The pay gap exists even when you take equally qualified male and female employees in the same position. Gender, not who works harder, is the deciding factor in who makes more.
Equally qualified male and female employees still differ in the number of working hours , the amount of overtime they are willing to take, and the projects and assignments they are willing to accept(depends on the profession).
Men are usually under bigger pressure to earn more money, so they work more hours a week than their female counter-parts, take on more challenging assignments and so on... There is the difference. The professor in the video makes that point very clear.
The example in the video is clear enough, but I have seen this in real life. At my last job there were a couple of guys who stayed at the office for 13 hours for 5 days in a row, while the women tended to do no more than 1-2 hours of overtime. Naturally, it is those guys that get promoted and receive the more responsible projects, that pay better. Otherwise they all start at the same pay.
The wage gap is a national pattern where across the board woman will make less than men for the same job. You can't justify it with a single story that backs your case. The issue of who gets promoted and why is a different issue.
Discrimination isn't a science like Dr. Farrel claims, it's a product of fear and ignorance. My fear is that w/unemployment up we will see more discrimination of all sorts, sexism, ageism, and racism in the workplace.
@heathhansn Men DO work harder, because they spent more time in the office than women do, not because they are physically stronger. A study has found that in some cases men spent 30% more time in the office than their female coworkers. Even with equal qualifications and in the same position those men HAVE to make more money in a month than their female counterparts!!
Do you really believe that a competitive company is willing to have higher costs by hiring men if they aren't worth the money ?
Women are just as educated, creative, intelligent, mature, and hard working as men, hence they should get paid the same for the same work, period.
If an employee puts in the same hours they should get paid the same. In cases of 9 to 5 work the wage gap still exists.
In response to your question, sadly yes, I do believe that some bosses will fire whomever they want because they can. I watched two Sr. female employees get fired because the boss is "more comfortable with men". Sad but true
@heathhansn Never said anything to the contrary, but DO they do the same work? Once again we are at the fact that men on average spent more time in the office than women. Even in 9 to 5 jobs you can do OVERTIME, therefore not necessarily discrimination.
Then follows an "anecdotal evidence":
a) Were you present when the boss talked to the women about why they were fired?
b) Those women surely sued right?
BTW answering both questions changes nothing about this assertion without proof.
@heathhansn We are here talking about the claim that income cap is a wide spread discrimination affecting nearly all women. AND IT IS NOT!
A case here and there can always be found, but that doesn't change the fact that there is NO WIDESPREAD DISCRIMINATION. But that is what you are asserting by talking about isolated cases.
BTW - Could Mr. Bose be more mean spirited and dismissive of women? His introduction is an insult to women who have experienced discrimination.
The income gap isn't based on an isolated case, it's based on widely known social science study, and affects women at all levels of income. Don't believe me go to the Center for American Progress. Apples to apples, women make 78 cents for every dollar a man makes.
...and yes the women sued and after a three year legal battle won back pay.
@heathhansn Do you really believe that a competitive company is willing to have higher costs by hiring men if they aren't worth the money ?
As long as those studies use the total wage they are flawed and wrong. "Center for American Progress" use "median wage" which is useless. How hard can it be to use at the payment per hour written in the contracts? Do they even check if everything is the same but the sex?
The wage gap refers to men and women in the same job. Alex is talking about isolated cases and manual labor jobs dominated by men. All things alike men still make more than women. That is not completely justified, that is discrimination.
Notice how there are very few non white people in the room... Most of the `decisions`men make that supposedly earn them more are made much more often by impoverished minorities. For them sacrifice does not mean more money than their peers.
I doubt there would be as much of a difference in the decisions made if the room was filled with poor people instead of rich white people. The gender pay gap is larger in minority groups in lower wage jobs. Explain this using these theories.
why do you assume white people are rich.if whites are the majority and 5% of the population owns 80 % of the wealth than simple math shows most whites are not rich
lol first of all, you can't count...I see at least 14 people in the audience at 0:06.
second, there are A LOT more visual minority groups in america than blacks, nor does it change the fact that these people hold prestigious jobs and are not the average black worker.
third, I'm from Toronto...if white people aren't out numbered there's something fishy going on.
Only American women bitch about this. Women in other countries already know this. In fact women that work part time in Oz make more than men. But you dont hear men bitch. I guess its because we are working long hours and dont have the time to form a protest group.
Well ... maybe men should give birth also. Not as easy. Also - there is no draft and if women do the same work as men, they should get the same. True men are stronger, but this does not account for much these days. ... and there are a lot of women serving in the military now!
Only 20% of the military are women. And most special forces don't allow women to join. Out of the 600,000 pilots in the US. Only 6% are women.
The draft is something that is talked about a lot today. If the US needs more men they will establish the draft. It's not gone. It's still there.
And of course women deserve the same pay. But just because their a women doesn't mean they get special treatment. Which some, not all believe they deserve.
I wouldn't rely on that statistic as I feel it's grossly inaccurate. While 20% maybe women the vast majority of deaths in the Iraqi conflict have been male (something over 90%). With that being the case I think it's obvious that the vast majority of ACTIVE SOLDIERS are male.
Wait i thought pregnancy was a choice? Oh yea and i love how women go on about how hard and difficult it is to give birth when the majority of most women, lets say 75 percent im being generous, that have ever lived have done it assuming theres a 50/50 gender ratio 1/3of the population can do it because its so....hard...Dont give me that good for society bullshit when infact we are overpopulating the earth. Every women that has more then two children is dooming the earth.
Men run this planet, women are shoved aside and complain because they cant do the stuff men can, we give them rights so they can feel like they are contributing.
"we give them rights" ROFL.. what are you, a member of congress? Posting on youtube?! Gtf outta here fucktard. You never gave any rights to anyone.
Don't know where you are, but men in America under 30 are mainly wiggers with bad attitudes who live in a perpetual state of adolescence. I highly doubt they'll be running anything in 20 years.
Feminists don't give a shit about equality, thats why they didn't show up. When you are in a business for women's rights, of course no one in that business wants to hear about men.
When you look at IQ's of 80 you have 3 men to 1 women, 60 you have 10 men to one women. And it works the other way: those with IQ's of 120 will be 2 men for each women, 140 will be about 8 men to each women, and 160 (about the highest a human can get) you're talking 30 to 1.
Now, the proof is real, it is factual, and it is here. Ask anybody who works with developmentally disabled kids what ratio boys?
It works the same way for math & spatial aptitude: when you're at the 99th percentile 90% men.
EpicGirl, wrong. Summers was drummed out, because feminist-leaning pundits have a strangle-hold on tenure committees, peer review groups, and many dean positions at most 4year universities.
Feminists can't stand the truth. The simple idea that Summers was expressing was this: the curve of intellectual ability spread over men tends to be more flat than the curve for women. Women tend to bunch in the center: IQ's of 88 to 120 or so. There are more men at the ends of the spectrum: idiot & genuis.
Of course saying that men and women are differently abled at math is far from saying that one is superior over the other in a grand and total way.
And even if he did say that men were superior to women, ejecting him is a rather thuggish reaction from what is supposed to be an intellectual institution. If someone is wrong you tell them why theyre wrong, as I have just done.
As for him being ejected as a thuggish maneuver, first off, he wasn't fired, he resigned. It is great that he did so in response to outrage at his small-minded sexist comments.
As for simply telling him he was wrong and moving on let me ask you...would you put a racist who spoke publicly of his racial beliefs in charge of a school whose student body was half black? Of course not.
hpufo -I don't need to make Summer's a straw man and it is not what I was doing. If you take the time to educate yourself about what he said you will find that you are wrong and I am in fact depicting his comments accurately.
Also, there is nothing irrelevant about my argument that a vocal racist would not be welcome running a school, esp. if the student body were half black. Women are not only the majority of the gen. pop., we are also the disproportionate majority of college students as well.
Apreciate this video for what it talks about.Whatever statements he makes in his spare time is his prerogative.Perhaps he became a sexist due to all the misandry in the world. it isnt uncommen for a women to become sexist due to all the misogyny in the world today.Regardless respect what he's saying for what it is.
I don't know that he was sexist for saying that there might, again might, be a lower standard deviation in achievement among women. It's a hypothesis. One I don't particularly agree with, as I think Dr. Farrel's work might actually be closer to presenting a valid hypothesis.
@EpicGirlatUWF If it's backed in science I don't see a problem with someone saying that. I've read numerous studies on the subject - though most people who try and follow it up further are pushed out of the academic community.
It only stands to logic that after millions upon millions of years that specific gender roles and strengths would come out of that process. People are just too caught up in pc to care about facts.
... laws that impose religious views or practices on individuals, and compulsory military service. Second, in addition to the better-known version of libertarianism - right-libertarianism - there is also a version known as 'left-libertarianism'. Both endorse full self-ownership, but they differ with respect to the powers agents have to appropriate unappropriated natural resources (land, air, water, etc.)."
This I really like. From Wikipedia/Right-Libertarianism.
The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states:
Libertarianism is often thought of as 'right-wing' doctrine. This, however, is mistaken for at least two reasons. First, on social - rather than economic - issues, libertarianism tends to be 'left-wing'. It opposes laws that restrict consensual and private sexual relationships between adults (e.g., gay sex, non-marital sex, and deviant sex), laws that restrict drug use ...
Men build this world!we made technology, computers, cars, airplanes, building, and so on.... with out men the human race would of never progressed passed the old ignorant ages.
To be fair there are a lot of female scientists (I take an active interest in the science world so I know of a lot who are making waves Im not so sure about engineering but Im sure its the same), I think there are more men in the field and I think its a field men take interest in more. I take the stance that these patterns arise from the differences between the male and female human animal.
Verlch...you're quite the imbecile. Affording economic freedom to ALL regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, social status, etc. has also increased the per capita, household income, and is exactly what makes Western nations richer than those that do no employ women or other disenfranchised groups.
You sound like a bitter old man who couldn't get laid if he tried...
Stop making associations with your emotional inability to connect with women with why they shouldn't be working...
hj364, the two-parent working household has raised the cost of living dramatically, and the mandated employment quotas for women to exclude more qualified male candidates have damaged productivity in most industries. your childish and pathetic personal attacks on verlch show you cannot refute his truthful remarks. YOU sure sound like the real bitter, misguided person here.
Ever since I read Dr. Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power", I've been happier than ever. My teachers at school (most of them feminists) taught me to hate myself because I was a boy, but that book has made me feel able to end such feelings.
Because it has helped me to believe that I'm not inherently bad. It encouraged me to start speaking out for my rights. I'm sure that once you have finished it, you too will feel hopeful about the future.
i guess ur right, and i sure hope so, but it seems like most of the biases (like males being disposable) are so fixed in the groundwork of our society that theyll remain that way; i mean can u imagine if the casualty rate of females outnumbered males? it sucks to hav social order value ur life as inferior to females =/
I don't think they'll remain that way. The idea that all women should stay home and raise kids used to be fixed into the groundwork of our society, and now look what's happened. I love women, and I'm saddened by what feminism has turned the ones in the West into--misandrists.
Don't blame the feminists for turning Western society into the misanthropic cripple it is today. Blame their advocates and government reps who made this possible.
The fact that you would defend such a completely idiot statement simply confirms my fear that this isn't academic in any way, it's woman hating dressed up with big word. BOOOOOO.
he starts at 4:34
eggiliciousness 3 weeks ago
@eggiliciousness You just saved four minutes of my life.
PoweredByMagnets 3 weeks ago
a CUNTroversial issue, today.... im sorry, but yeah
Gearsparker 2 months ago
@Gearsparker lol yeah he does say "CUUUUUNTroversial"
LOL
StarsManny 1 month ago
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Next time some feminist or mangina tells you the wage gap is due to sexism present them with this video its a start.
thanks to ArgusEyes for posting
themaniusedtob 3 months ago
why is it none of the people who post here can structure sentences properly? i guess that's a chics fault too! halfwits
weirdcode1 3 months ago
@weirdcode1
A "chicks" fault? I'm afraid you've mistaken the propensities of the wrong demographic. It's not the guys who persistently lean on a discrimination explanation as a nigh on default.
The guys that are administering a seriously honed dose of reality to the fulminating forces behind delusional feminism are at an opposing polarity of accuracy. They speak the truth and speak it well. Feminists (as you appear to be) seem consider emoting and ranting as a form of reason. You're losing.
KadrickNinness 3 months ago
@KadrickNinness aside from the fact that it was the 6 or 7 barely comprehensible posts below mine that inspired my comment, guess what...? it was bait... & U TOOK IT! & watch a catch; "... an opposing polarity of accuracy..."; you know why use one word when you can attempt to sound intelligent with pointless, ill-fitting verbosity ....WANKER. and just how is questioning pathetic grammar etc, considered "ranting"? that wasn't an invitation for dialogue, so dont answer that, i'm tired of idiocy.
weirdcode1 3 months ago
@weirdcode1
Verbosity is only a valid claim when the sentiments are fully intact, and drastically reducible.
You're still losing.
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
@KadrickNinness Given your apparent, if somewhat incongruent belief in "speaking the truth well" i think what you meant to type was; "Verbosity is only a valid claim when the sentiments WOULD REMAIN fully intact, when drastically reducible." Also "Feminists... seem (?) consider emoting...": I think you were so caught up in your own "rant" you may have omitted a word. You're lost... & your obsession with the primacy of "reason" appears not to be helping you find your way.
weirdcode1 2 months ago
@weirdcode1
Your critique of the syntax is accurate. Could have also been phrased as "fully intact if drastically reduced". I actually recall tweaking that sentence in the interests of brevity, since you were so apparantly averse to protraction. Jumbled context can result from this happening in haste.
But then, you don't see me cherry picking neglected capitals, commas and lax spelling (chics? Is that a parody?). I'm more interested in the intended point of view.
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
@KadrickNinness "chics": yes, even the pop-culture spelling, was a parody (like my polemic "sardonic rant")however there were actual points, but i can see that as we dont know each other, you may understandably not got where i was coming from. i'm not so much averse to protraction, as it's often needed & illuminative: i did however from your clearly impassioned language sense a level of emotion, which i consider necessary & admirable, not just ranting. btw i'm no "feminist". good talking to you.
weirdcode1 2 months ago
@weirdcode1
Chic isn't a pop culture abbreviation of chick. It's a fashion colloquialism meaning stylish, or in style.
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
@KadrickNinness any word or spelling variation of such, once used regularly in discourse, achieves its own legitimacy & this is part of the "evolution" of language, though dictionaries often take years to document these changes. yes "chic";([pron; sheek] which requires a notation above the "i" which isn't on my keybooard) means stylish, but i have seen numerous examples spanning a fairly wide social & literary spectrum where "chic/s" has been used to refer to women, so i consider my use correct.
weirdcode1 2 months ago
@weirdcode1
I've seen no such assimilation into the vernacular. But suit yourself.
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
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"i guess that's a chics fault too! halfwits"
Idiocy ^^^
It's not a cultural habit of males, by any stretch, to make their woes the fault of the opposing gender.
As a compounding irony, it's that very dynamic that is tiresome, and made an example of.
Woman doesn't get promoted - "GLASS CEILING!"
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
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I'M A MENS RIGHTS ACTIVIST I SIT AT HOME MASTURBATING 24/7 COZ I CANT FORM FRIENDSHIPS WITH REAL WOMEN COZ IVE GOT ALL THIS FREUDIAN REPRESSED HATRED BOILING AWAY INSIDE... AFTER I CUM I CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP WHERE I DREAM OF A WORLD UNDER SHARIA LAW BUT WE DONT CALL IT THAT!
weirdcode1 3 months ago
@weirdcode1
Wow, your sardonic rant about masterbation and sharia law was such an abysmal achievement in the art of Strawman torching, it was almost impressive. The sad thing is you exhibit signs of a higher intellect than is exhibit by such limp trolling. If you gave away the shambolic mischaracterizations, you might actually find some neutral territory with those that endorse egalitarianism. Like me.
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
@KadrickNinness
**Exhibited
KadrickNinness 2 months ago
@weirdcode1 Good for you?
david52875 2 months ago
@david52875 your point being...? you know that was a parody don't you?
weirdcode1 2 months ago
@weirdcode1 Okay then?
david52875 2 months ago
@david52875 what's with the unnecessary question marks?
weirdcode1 2 months ago
@weirdcode1 I don't know?
david52875 2 months ago
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themaniusedtob 3 months ago
@themaniusedtob i think you mean "due" not "do"... not surprising though if you are accepting what's brought to you by the CATO Institute... these people are pro-big tobacco for fucks sake!
weirdcode1 3 months ago
I like what I've seen of Warren Farrell quite a lot... He presents good, calm, thought-out debates in the true spirit of equality- he doesn't get angry and start saying things like "Women need to stop being morons", like a lot of guys debating men's rights seem to. He knows a calm, non-biased debate is the way to win support, rather than getting just as angry and just as prejudiced as the extreme feminists men's rights activists want to beat.
Darwinsmistake 6 months ago
@Darwinsmistake I agree to an extent. I think a calm demeanor is a good way to win support, but support means nothing if passion is not present. If you can hear a story about a talk show poking fun at a mutilated man and not get angry and not express your anger, then you don't really care about the issue in the first place. If you see that and don't think "Well wait, why do those stupid cunts get to do that when men cant?" and dont get upset about the unfairness, you dont really care at all.
PeterBainner 4 months ago
I think the best solution to remove the so-call pay-gap is simply to train women in bein better to negotiate salary. That would be a better solution rather than go troug law. But that for once would mean that feminists should look for a solution that actually works. Gosh no....
Kenshiroit 7 months ago
@Kenshiroit i wouldnt say that, they need to start sacrificing the thing they want like kids and things like that. if they want more, then they have to really try hard. there are women who do it, i have seen them.
judesama11 7 months ago
@judesama11 no doub, but the main problem is a lot of women either they dont care (some guys dont care either) or they dont know how to do. I think that would be a goodand reasonable solution, rather than hope for a mirakle or a special law.
Kenshiroit 7 months ago
@judesama11 ..nah, women don't have to try hard, they just keep making laws to assist them getting "raises" every so often. Women have not and will not work as hard as men given the current laws and women attitudes.
luckybozo1 6 months ago
@luckybozo1 most women yes, not all women. i would say about 20 percent would actually so something and take advantage. but the rest of the 80 just want everything handed to them on a silver platter.
judesama11 6 months ago
@Kenshiroit First women have to realize that the pay gap has nothing to do with sexism but is due to their negotiate skills and the career choices. So far, they are blaming men. What you are doing is you are giving them more excuses to blame men. It would be like training a feminist how the law works and the only thing she would do is to use that skill and ONLY use it to her advantage! There are countless organizations helping women don't you think we should think about men for once?
luckybozo1 6 months ago
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@Kenshiroit ..tell me, if you always blame someone else, will you ever learn to improve yourself?
luckybozo1 6 months ago
While Farrell try to help women to gain higher salary, he should also debunk a lot of those false accusations women have been putting on men without real scientific prove.
luckybozo1 8 months ago
Avoiceformen and Manwomanmyth everyone. Google them!
victorsvoice 8 months ago
Funny... the CATO institutes mentions an income gap between men and women, but don't give a shit about the income gap between the rich and poor (which is far-far larger).
donnyforte2 9 months ago
@donnyforte2 : Thankyou, i think and feel the same pain of poor people..
mycanal 8 months ago
@donnyforte2 : Thankyou, i think and feel the same pain of poor people..
In the last few years, i experienced the gap btwn rich and poor getting bigger and bigger..
mycanal 8 months ago
It's not because they're women, it's because they're not men....
Julietteisme 9 months ago
It's very telling that most feminists concentrate on the income gap when discussing issues of inequality. you rarely hear anything about political inequality, unequel access to social servces etc. it's always about money.
lamentate07 10 months ago
@lamentate07
Great observation!
blupheonix44 9 months ago
@lamentate07 Why would they? They influence the political parties with their organizations and most of the social services are catered to women. Like you said they concentrate on income gap because women believe that money means happiness and were told that they would get respected and would be making household decisions if they outearn their bfs and husbands as if they actually earn it! Also, they go where the money is...by suing companies for sexual harrassments.
luckybozo1 6 months ago
Faggots
CupOfEarlGrey 1 year ago
@CupOfEarlGrey wtf?
Sivels 10 months ago
18 Feminazis can't accept reality.
Pottsdie 1 year ago
@Hootons your right they are everywhere and they always think on emotions and selfish thinking
themaniusedtob 1 year ago
@themaniusedtob Agreed. The old "stereotype" of men being cold and rational and women the opposite seems to be more relevant than ever.
TempestDust 1 year ago
good video, thanks for uploading...
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
now then he got elected 3 times to that satans nest. but did he accept. and why wopuld they want him 3 TIMES if he wasnt a mangina....not saying he is but something sounds fishy
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA He probably was a mangina but dont forget that he later wrote probably the best mens rights book to date "The Myth of Male Power" and he is currently writing a book about the boy crisis with John Gray.
So he has redeemed himself, he probably thought that feminism was all about equality cause he left right after they came out against shared parenting (this is in his book "The Myth of Male Power").
trueswordsexpert0909 1 year ago
2:46 yeah right, they couldnt be there, they chose not to be there because logic would be there, and logic is worse than a sodomy gang rape to a feminist
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA lol
Generalcashmycheque 1 year ago
"GLASS CEILING" a manufactured excuse women use to justify themselves as to why they're not promoted to a position when a better candidate is choses and happens to be male.
"KISS UP/SUCK UP" a manufactured excuse women use to justify themselves as to why they're not promoted to a position when a better candidate is choses and happens to be female.
"MIRROR OF ACCOUNTABILITY" somewhere most women have never looked for answers to tough questions they're much to week to face.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality
yeah so copied and saved to a .rtf file. im gonna paste this to so many places....when i have time ill make a t shirt out of it
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA Dont forget to name it after me!
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality Don't forget about when they use sham language to shut someone up.
Captainjack463 1 year ago
I do not believe a women that does the exact same job as a man anywhere in North America would get paid less. That to me is another one of the many manipulations/lies created by the feminist pigs of this world, which are many and have caused great harm to society over the last 30 to 40 years. In addition, I find women on a job site tend to be less efficient at their work.
GTCism 1 year ago
Wow, very interesting topic. Thank you very much for this upload.
DelusionalJ 1 year ago
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cr561979 1 year ago
Glass ceiling = air conditioned job
CEO = anyone ruthless enough can be one
Concrete cellar = dirty hard jobs women won't do because they might chip a nail
cordedpoodle 1 year ago
comments on this board are pretty childish so far. anyone here over 18???
while working in business, i have noticed that men earn more in part because they won't work for less money . women want/need flexibility in the workplace. men need to be earners and will not stay around if they are not being paid. women get paid less because they will accept a lower paying position. it's not necessarily a bad thing. i think it is a male assumption that pay is everything.
smedheat 1 year ago
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@smedheat I agree - stop lumping all women together saying they don't want to work because they might break a nail or whatever. I agree that women tend to want different things one of which is flexibility because they might want a child for example. Men still tend to be the main breadwinners so go for the jobs with the most money & SOME feel they want to provide as much as possible for their families or see it as a status symbol. Women don't TEND to see it like that as much...
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
I just studied reading his book The Myth of Male Power, and it looks to be a very interesting read. So... is Farrell himself a libertarian or a Democrat? I assume he's not a Republican. After all, he is still kind of a feminist at heart and was a long-time NOW leader. Or is he a moderate?
whoo689 1 year ago
@whoo689 because you can't support women if you're a republican?
neoritter 1 year ago
@whoo689 What is this about? Would you recommend the book? I might be interested to read it
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
@diagram1234
According to the National Center for Education Statistics, Men are only 40% of college students.
h t t p : / / n c e s . ed . gov/programs/digest/d08/ch_3 . asp
menareangrynow 1 year ago
the dept of labor released a report in 2009 debunking the "wage gap" I have it if anyone wants to see it.
trueswordsexpert0909 1 year ago
@trueswordsexpert0909 actually that does sound pretty interesting. if you still have it i would be very interested in obtaining a copy.
SirInYellow 1 year ago
@SirInYellow no problem I will send you a PM.
trueswordsexpert0909 1 year ago
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@trueswordsexpert0909 Me please. I don't think there is a wage gap anyway but it would be good to see evidence of this if you still have it... even though you commented this 6 months ago!
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
that makes no sence, why would a company pay a man a higher hourly wage if it could hire a woman at a lower hourly wage?
delonewolf 1 year ago
That's my exact question...
akillerkidofcolor 1 year ago
It depends on the labor. Do you think you're gonna find a buttload of women wanting to fish crab in Alaska, or how about working in a mine? Or maybe drilling oil..thats why women dont get paid more. Fewer women are willing to put up with the physical labor or stress of such jobs, but they want all the spoils
RNRDOLL 1 year ago
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@RNRDOLL
Not to mention most women are just worthless. The military is a perfect example. As soon as they get in they start having babies and are taken off their real job for 9 months. Why would someone deal with this when they can just get an 18 year old in there who is gonna do the work. Men use logic while women use emotion and they usually chase easy admin type jobs. They suck at most things like operating machinery, using guns, physical labor, mechanics, etc.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
@Warpath2198 Not to mention that the cream-puff jobs going to women, in years past would go to men who had an arm or leg blown off, or were shell-shocked as a very minor reward for serving 2-3-4 terms of service for his country.
Jabes1966 1 year ago
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@Warpath2198 'Most women are just worthless'. 'They suck at most things...' yeah... OK... whatever. Mysoginyst much? Do you think that about your mum too?
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
YES, he is calculating for the same jobs, qualification, consecutive years, overtime ect ect. It's feminist studies that glaze over essential variables to promote the "All men discriminate" agenda. For example, women who have never been married and who have never had children earn 117% of their male counterparts. ~ Dr. Warren Farrell
Among the many factors which influence male/female economic differences, the most elusive is employer discrimination ~ Dr. Thomas Sowell
corbyworld5 1 year ago
It is even worse: "This segregation of women into different jobs than men is one of the primary factors explaining the continuing wage gap between men and women, where women, on average, bring home just 78 cents on the male dollar."
They average over every single profession and then come up with 78%. That is complete bullshit. They are not comparing men and women with the same job, qualification and so on.
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
How do we explain that as women become better educated and reach higher levels of management, the gap becomes wider?
heathhansn 2 years ago
@heathhansn Do you have a typo there? If not, please explain in more detail what you mean.
Kashrlyyk 1 year ago
No there is no typo. The studies show that the more qualified and more senior women are, the bigger the disparity. If you put in your time and achieve success, why are you still getting paid less?
heathhansn 1 year ago
@heathhansn Depends!
A) The studies are faulty.
B) I have seen a study which says higher education lower "pay gap", if such a thing exists. I love it when studies use magically appearing numbers without explanation modifying a questionable number.
C) Some jobs have a payment depending on your skills as a negotiator. If women suck at that and therefore get lower wages there is nothing wrong here.
Kashrlyyk 1 year ago
osteoperosis maybe That spells job risk, which spells potential lawsuit which spells potential decline in company productivity.
RNRDOLL 1 year ago
as more people get educated the education loses value because it becomes more common. better payed jobs due to other factors like risk, hours/week and hard manual labour are still done mostly by men and gain value.
delonewolf 1 year ago
Kendoka5 -
There is one reason women make less than men - DISCRIMINATION. As a woman who has dealt with discrimination at every job level, I find the premise that the pay gap lies with women and their behaviors truly insulting. This is tantamount to writing a book in the 1970's titled, "Why African American Males Make Less than White Males". The huge infusion of talent as a result of women in the workplace has threatened many men, and they resort to discrimination - period.
heathhansn 2 years ago
Obviously, men work harder pick tougher and more dangerous jobs that pay better. That's why they earn more than average. It's as simple as that...
AlexGruev 2 years ago
First of all, men don't work harder than women. Men may have an advantage at certain jobs that are physically demanding, but there is no data whatsoever to support your claim when comparing nurses, teachers, lawyers, or accountants based on gender.
The pay gap exists even when you take equally qualified male and female employees in the same position. Gender, not who works harder, is the deciding factor in who makes more.
heathhansn 2 years ago
Equally qualified male and female employees still differ in the number of working hours , the amount of overtime they are willing to take, and the projects and assignments they are willing to accept(depends on the profession).
Men are usually under bigger pressure to earn more money, so they work more hours a week than their female counter-parts, take on more challenging assignments and so on... There is the difference. The professor in the video makes that point very clear.
AlexGruev 2 years ago
The example in the video is clear enough, but I have seen this in real life. At my last job there were a couple of guys who stayed at the office for 13 hours for 5 days in a row, while the women tended to do no more than 1-2 hours of overtime. Naturally, it is those guys that get promoted and receive the more responsible projects, that pay better. Otherwise they all start at the same pay.
So there's your answer.
AlexGruev 2 years ago
The wage gap is a national pattern where across the board woman will make less than men for the same job. You can't justify it with a single story that backs your case. The issue of who gets promoted and why is a different issue.
Discrimination isn't a science like Dr. Farrel claims, it's a product of fear and ignorance. My fear is that w/unemployment up we will see more discrimination of all sorts, sexism, ageism, and racism in the workplace.
heathhansn 2 years ago
@heathhansn Men DO work harder, because they spent more time in the office than women do, not because they are physically stronger. A study has found that in some cases men spent 30% more time in the office than their female coworkers. Even with equal qualifications and in the same position those men HAVE to make more money in a month than their female counterparts!!
Do you really believe that a competitive company is willing to have higher costs by hiring men if they aren't worth the money ?
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
Women are just as educated, creative, intelligent, mature, and hard working as men, hence they should get paid the same for the same work, period.
If an employee puts in the same hours they should get paid the same. In cases of 9 to 5 work the wage gap still exists.
In response to your question, sadly yes, I do believe that some bosses will fire whomever they want because they can. I watched two Sr. female employees get fired because the boss is "more comfortable with men". Sad but true
heathhansn 2 years ago
@heathhansn Never said anything to the contrary, but DO they do the same work? Once again we are at the fact that men on average spent more time in the office than women. Even in 9 to 5 jobs you can do OVERTIME, therefore not necessarily discrimination.
Then follows an "anecdotal evidence":
a) Were you present when the boss talked to the women about why they were fired?
b) Those women surely sued right?
BTW answering both questions changes nothing about this assertion without proof.
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
@heathhansn We are here talking about the claim that income cap is a wide spread discrimination affecting nearly all women. AND IT IS NOT!
A case here and there can always be found, but that doesn't change the fact that there is NO WIDESPREAD DISCRIMINATION. But that is what you are asserting by talking about isolated cases.
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
BTW - Could Mr. Bose be more mean spirited and dismissive of women? His introduction is an insult to women who have experienced discrimination.
The income gap isn't based on an isolated case, it's based on widely known social science study, and affects women at all levels of income. Don't believe me go to the Center for American Progress. Apples to apples, women make 78 cents for every dollar a man makes.
...and yes the women sued and after a three year legal battle won back pay.
heathhansn 2 years ago
@heathhansn Do you really believe that a competitive company is willing to have higher costs by hiring men if they aren't worth the money ?
As long as those studies use the total wage they are flawed and wrong. "Center for American Progress" use "median wage" which is useless. How hard can it be to use at the payment per hour written in the contracts? Do they even check if everything is the same but the sex?
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
@heathhansn Why earn when you can sue, right?
Read the book.
lunaticreanimator 10 months ago
Uh if that true then you dont have much to worry about because the influx of woman talent should net em all the jobs right?
It's different than black and white. It is yin and yang.
Emperordante 2 years ago
@heathhansn Read what AlexGruev wrote. That is the reason men earn more in a month than women and it is completely justified.
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
The wage gap refers to men and women in the same job. Alex is talking about isolated cases and manual labor jobs dominated by men. All things alike men still make more than women. That is not completely justified, that is discrimination.
heathhansn 2 years ago
In Canada, flight attendants sued Air Canada saying that they should make the same money as pilots.
They claimed that they were paid less only because they are mostly female, while pilots are mostly male.
proudguy 2 years ago
Seriously? Damn. That just shows how screwed up feminism and women's victim mentality really is.
StinkyKnobcheese 2 years ago
Rofl you can't be serious.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
Notice how there are very few non white people in the room... Most of the `decisions`men make that supposedly earn them more are made much more often by impoverished minorities. For them sacrifice does not mean more money than their peers.
I doubt there would be as much of a difference in the decisions made if the room was filled with poor people instead of rich white people. The gender pay gap is larger in minority groups in lower wage jobs. Explain this using these theories.
ardraneala 2 years ago
why do you assume white people are rich.if whites are the majority and 5% of the population owns 80 % of the wealth than simple math shows most whites are not rich
asr10420 2 years ago
i counted 2 black people out of 10 people total in the first 40 seconds. thats 20 % what do you want 50%
theasassinator 2 years ago
@theasassinator
lol first of all, you can't count...I see at least 14 people in the audience at 0:06.
second, there are A LOT more visual minority groups in america than blacks, nor does it change the fact that these people hold prestigious jobs and are not the average black worker.
third, I'm from Toronto...if white people aren't out numbered there's something fishy going on.
ardraneala 2 years ago
Only American women bitch about this. Women in other countries already know this. In fact women that work part time in Oz make more than men. But you dont hear men bitch. I guess its because we are working long hours and dont have the time to form a protest group.
ryno99 2 years ago
If women want to be paid and treated the same as men. Then they should also get their draft card at the age of 18.
Then we'll talk about equal pay.
ihavtugo 2 years ago
Well ... maybe men should give birth also. Not as easy. Also - there is no draft and if women do the same work as men, they should get the same. True men are stronger, but this does not account for much these days. ... and there are a lot of women serving in the military now!
BIOSrc6 2 years ago
Only 20% of the military are women. And most special forces don't allow women to join. Out of the 600,000 pilots in the US. Only 6% are women.
The draft is something that is talked about a lot today. If the US needs more men they will establish the draft. It's not gone. It's still there.
And of course women deserve the same pay. But just because their a women doesn't mean they get special treatment. Which some, not all believe they deserve.
ihavtugo 2 years ago
I wouldn't rely on that statistic as I feel it's grossly inaccurate. While 20% maybe women the vast majority of deaths in the Iraqi conflict have been male (something over 90%). With that being the case I think it's obvious that the vast majority of ACTIVE SOLDIERS are male.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
I got it from a government based website.
ihavtugo 2 years ago
Source plz.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
The US census Bureau.
ihavtugo 2 years ago
Rofl thx.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
It was 15% in 2004. But NBC stated that it has increased by 1% every year since 9/11/01.
ihavtugo 2 years ago
Again that's not very helpful. I'm curious as to the distribution of that statistic more so than it's numerical accuracy.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
Wait i thought pregnancy was a choice? Oh yea and i love how women go on about how hard and difficult it is to give birth when the majority of most women, lets say 75 percent im being generous, that have ever lived have done it assuming theres a 50/50 gender ratio 1/3of the population can do it because its so....hard...Dont give me that good for society bullshit when infact we are overpopulating the earth. Every women that has more then two children is dooming the earth.
praeposterus 2 years ago
giving birth is not nearly as traumatic or life threatening as frontline combat warfare.
kendoka5 2 years ago
True dat.
ryno99 2 years ago
Men run this planet, women are shoved aside and complain because they cant do the stuff men can, we give them rights so they can feel like they are contributing.
flamingaxe791 2 years ago
"we give them rights" ROFL.. what are you, a member of congress? Posting on youtube?! Gtf outta here fucktard. You never gave any rights to anyone.
Don't know where you are, but men in America under 30 are mainly wiggers with bad attitudes who live in a perpetual state of adolescence. I highly doubt they'll be running anything in 20 years.
Unexampled1 2 years ago
The reason men earn more is very simple. They are more valuable to employers. They work harder. Nothing more, nothing less.
StinkyKnobcheese 2 years ago
Exactly!
menareangrynow 2 years ago
"they say a womans work is never done, maybe thats why they get pait less than us" hahaha
manticore117 2 years ago
that's not nice :(
thecreepyguy 2 years ago
Feminists don't give a shit about equality, thats why they didn't show up. When you are in a business for women's rights, of course no one in that business wants to hear about men.
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
Baseless generalization.
ShakaVahn 2 years ago
No, I have proof based on imperical evidence.
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
Translation: I'm full of shit.
ShakaVahn 2 years ago
You didn't have to tell me you were full
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
When you look at IQ's of 80 you have 3 men to 1 women, 60 you have 10 men to one women. And it works the other way: those with IQ's of 120 will be 2 men for each women, 140 will be about 8 men to each women, and 160 (about the highest a human can get) you're talking 30 to 1.
Now, the proof is real, it is factual, and it is here. Ask anybody who works with developmentally disabled kids what ratio boys?
It works the same way for math & spatial aptitude: when you're at the 99th percentile 90% men.
Jabes1966 2 years ago
EpicGirl, wrong. Summers was drummed out, because feminist-leaning pundits have a strangle-hold on tenure committees, peer review groups, and many dean positions at most 4year universities.
Feminists can't stand the truth. The simple idea that Summers was expressing was this: the curve of intellectual ability spread over men tends to be more flat than the curve for women. Women tend to bunch in the center: IQ's of 88 to 120 or so. There are more men at the ends of the spectrum: idiot & genuis.
Jabes1966 2 years ago
The premise may be true but the conclusion is not valid.
totalnerd747 2 years ago
Thanks for this series of posts. I have not looked through all of them yet but I will. Interesting..
phoenixfromashess 2 years ago
Summers wasn't drummed out of Harvard for raising the question, he was drummed out for saying that women are intellectually inferior.
EpicGirlatUWF 2 years ago
Of course saying that men and women are differently abled at math is far from saying that one is superior over the other in a grand and total way.
And even if he did say that men were superior to women, ejecting him is a rather thuggish reaction from what is supposed to be an intellectual institution. If someone is wrong you tell them why theyre wrong, as I have just done.
ArgusEyes 2 years ago
As for him being ejected as a thuggish maneuver, first off, he wasn't fired, he resigned. It is great that he did so in response to outrage at his small-minded sexist comments.
As for simply telling him he was wrong and moving on let me ask you...would you put a racist who spoke publicly of his racial beliefs in charge of a school whose student body was half black? Of course not.
EpicGirlatUWF 2 years ago
You are making a strawman he was not a sexist. And your argument is competently irrelevant.
hpufo 2 years ago
hpufo -I don't need to make Summer's a straw man and it is not what I was doing. If you take the time to educate yourself about what he said you will find that you are wrong and I am in fact depicting his comments accurately.
Also, there is nothing irrelevant about my argument that a vocal racist would not be welcome running a school, esp. if the student body were half black. Women are not only the majority of the gen. pop., we are also the disproportionate majority of college students as well.
EpicGirlatUWF 2 years ago
Apreciate this video for what it talks about.Whatever statements he makes in his spare time is his prerogative.Perhaps he became a sexist due to all the misandry in the world. it isnt uncommen for a women to become sexist due to all the misogyny in the world today.Regardless respect what he's saying for what it is.
thecreepyguy 2 years ago
I don't know that he was sexist for saying that there might, again might, be a lower standard deviation in achievement among women. It's a hypothesis. One I don't particularly agree with, as I think Dr. Farrel's work might actually be closer to presenting a valid hypothesis.
nitzwalsh86 2 years ago
you are brilliant, im subscriding to you epicgirlatuwf
hemsyyy 2 years ago
@ArgusEyes lmao . . nice
ak34809723 1 year ago
@EpicGirlatUWF If it's backed in science I don't see a problem with someone saying that. I've read numerous studies on the subject - though most people who try and follow it up further are pushed out of the academic community.
It only stands to logic that after millions upon millions of years that specific gender roles and strengths would come out of that process. People are just too caught up in pc to care about facts.
James1050 1 year ago
Who let them leave the kitchen?
vrfl 2 years ago
Dr. Warren Farrel is my idol
Obsidean 3 years ago
I also find arguments based on "freedom" or "liberty" problematic because these concept are always relative.
floydianworld 3 years ago
*vomits*
wayfarin 2 years ago
(Contd.)
... laws that impose religious views or practices on individuals, and compulsory military service. Second, in addition to the better-known version of libertarianism - right-libertarianism - there is also a version known as 'left-libertarianism'. Both endorse full self-ownership, but they differ with respect to the powers agents have to appropriate unappropriated natural resources (land, air, water, etc.)."
floydianworld 3 years ago
*wipes vomit from face, reads the continued post, and realises his mistake*
wayfarin 2 years ago
This I really like. From Wikipedia/Right-Libertarianism.
The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states:
Libertarianism is often thought of as 'right-wing' doctrine. This, however, is mistaken for at least two reasons. First, on social - rather than economic - issues, libertarianism tends to be 'left-wing'. It opposes laws that restrict consensual and private sexual relationships between adults (e.g., gay sex, non-marital sex, and deviant sex), laws that restrict drug use ...
floydianworld 3 years ago
Women earn more than men now so I wouldn't give too much focus on Warren Farrells analysis at this stage.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Men build this world!we made technology, computers, cars, airplanes, building, and so on.... with out men the human race would of never progressed passed the old ignorant ages.
arabjin666 3 years ago
where are the female scientists, engineers and such? im sick of this attempt at equality its futile.
raulitech 3 years ago
To be fair there are a lot of female scientists (I take an active interest in the science world so I know of a lot who are making waves Im not so sure about engineering but Im sure its the same), I think there are more men in the field and I think its a field men take interest in more. I take the stance that these patterns arise from the differences between the male and female human animal.
ArgusEyes 3 years ago
Make the opportunity equal and then let whatever comes from that be. This solution requires zero bureaucratic intervention.
ArgusEyes 3 years ago
I love the Cato institute. I am considering applying for an internship.
EndTheism 3 years ago
Verlch...you're quite the imbecile. Affording economic freedom to ALL regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, social status, etc. has also increased the per capita, household income, and is exactly what makes Western nations richer than those that do no employ women or other disenfranchised groups.
You sound like a bitter old man who couldn't get laid if he tried...
Stop making associations with your emotional inability to connect with women with why they shouldn't be working...
hj364 3 years ago
hj364, the two-parent working household has raised the cost of living dramatically, and the mandated employment quotas for women to exclude more qualified male candidates have damaged productivity in most industries. your childish and pathetic personal attacks on verlch show you cannot refute his truthful remarks. YOU sure sound like the real bitter, misguided person here.
kendoka5 2 years ago
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heathhansn 2 years ago
Ever since I read Dr. Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power", I've been happier than ever. My teachers at school (most of them feminists) taught me to hate myself because I was a boy, but that book has made me feel able to end such feelings.
loqutor 3 years ago
im halfway in reading that--how did it make u feel happier? if anything it jus goes to prove just how unjust the world is..
MIS315 3 years ago
Because it has helped me to believe that I'm not inherently bad. It encouraged me to start speaking out for my rights. I'm sure that once you have finished it, you too will feel hopeful about the future.
loqutor 3 years ago
i guess ur right, and i sure hope so, but it seems like most of the biases (like males being disposable) are so fixed in the groundwork of our society that theyll remain that way; i mean can u imagine if the casualty rate of females outnumbered males? it sucks to hav social order value ur life as inferior to females =/
MIS315 3 years ago
I don't think they'll remain that way. The idea that all women should stay home and raise kids used to be fixed into the groundwork of our society, and now look what's happened. I love women, and I'm saddened by what feminism has turned the ones in the West into--misandrists.
loqutor 3 years ago
Don't blame the feminists for turning Western society into the misanthropic cripple it is today. Blame their advocates and government reps who made this possible.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
I'm sorry to hear that you were taught to hate yourself, like that. Teacher's like that need be be fired for breaking the teacher-pupil bond & trust.
menareangrynow 2 years ago
Verhch, your inablility to find a woman who can tolerate you is not the fault of my paycheck.
heathhansn 3 years ago
heathhansn, maybe you should try refuting verlch's point instead of resorting to childish ad-hominem attacks? how pathetic of you.
kendoka5 2 years ago
The fact that you would defend such a completely idiot statement simply confirms my fear that this isn't academic in any way, it's woman hating dressed up with big word. BOOOOOO.
heathhansn 2 years ago
@heathhansn lol what a vict