What was the dog doing there in the first place? It is illegal to have a drug sniffing dog at an immigration checkpoint (source: City of Indianapolis v. Edmond).
I will say this: What the BP did was VERY wrong. What HE said about Obama was VERY wrong. He's isn't christian. Christians don't wish people to die. Christians want people to be saved. Obama, as much as I don't like him, is our commander in chief. We have to obey him. We don't have to respect him, but we do need to obey him.
i actually felt bad for this pastor until his rant about hoping Obama dies and gets cancer like Ted Kennedy did. He is an anti-gay closet case in my opinion. Just keep watching as the truth unfolds.
Don't you people understand-American's are at war against Terrany-most you are do dumbed down and suppressed by Constitutional violating govern Agents that you believe- people that want to exercise their RIGHTS are wrong. You too will end up in a FEMA DEATH CAMP-It will be too late to ask for your RIGHTS then!
yes!karma served in part.score one for the poor souls at the inquisition.that is messed up as far as incidents go.very suspicious.[love america ,dont like organized religion]
Get the story right before running off your mouth about what happened to pastor Anderson. As a matter of fact get the story right on all of your reporting or complaining.
An increase in suicides in Border Patrol agents. The contradiction is, if they admit have no idea why there is this spike, how can they possibly be sure it has nothing to do with the increased volatility?
There is something seriously wrong with these Cops!!
The Propaganda training the police receive is very dangerous to "We The People"!!
The Attorney Generals, Commissioners, Chiefs, etc. are CORRUPT all the way up the ladder!! You are paying taxes to the criminal government and in-turn, they are screwing with your LIFE!!!
Police are nothing more than unconstitutional wealth transfer thugs! Revenue generators.
I head a foot on my head before before, but I tell you this, after that happened (don't tell the whole story) I was black listed. No cop in my State will stay by me by himself once my name is run, they will automatically request backup when they run my name. One cop was too scared to hand me my driver lisence back and threw it next to me instead of handing me it. =P
This kind of stuff makes my physically ill. I'm not kidding. It turns my stomach and enrages me more than anything. Notice the demonic little piggy-fuckin'-scumbag at 8:50 seconds in this video. This demonic pig, I mean "Police Man", smashes the window, snears and curls his lip around his teeth and tasers Anderson. That pig looks liked a fat hill billy version of Agent Smith with glasses. Wait... MR. ANDERSON... AGENT SMITH... hmm... Anyhow, these cops are criminals in this case.
I HAVE TO OBEY A PIECE OF SHIT, BUT I DO NOT HAVE TO RESPECT A PIECE OF SHIT, MOST POLICEMEN ARE A PIECE OF SHIT.. MY WIFE AND I WAS TAKEN FROM OUR MOTOR HOME IN JOLIET, ILLINOIS KNOCK US TO THE GROUND AND BEATEN BY 4 POLICEMEN ABOUT 15 OTHER PLOICEMEN STOOD AROUND AND DID NOT HELP US. AT ALL. BLEEDING ALL OVER WE ARE 66 & 67 Y.O.
does anyone else think that alex needs to stop thinking that just because someone published something, that its true, or just because someone made a movie of it, its true. In either circumstance you can state things that make it seem like dots are connected that arnt. Also he injects words or side comments into things that totally sway the way the convo could go... ive yet to see actual critical thinking come from this man, just delusions.
I think for once Alex Jones has an honest to God point. this is intentional, criminal incompetence at it's worst. On immigration the feds have been screwing the pooch for years they know it and have been trying to cover it up. so they take it out on the locals, this conspiracy makes sense.
Dogs are instinctive THE HANDLER would have been frustrated that a PATRIOT refused his un-lawful orders and HE subconsciously wanted that CAR to have drugs the dog picked up on HIS conscious FRUSTRATIONS and was getting excited. TYPICAL FALSE positive.
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Check out his three free audio seminars (Sovereignty, Motions, and Forms) on his site and all the supporting material from real court transcripts, claims and counterclaims, how to establish your standing at law as "one of the people" and how to establish a "court of record".
Because of the actions of a mere handful of their civilians, we have GONE TO WAR against Afghanistan and Iraq. There are MILLIONS of Mexicans committing crimes here in the US every dasy. Why are we not at war with Mexico? They are clearly at war with us.
heres an idea for dangerous regions of the border..... get a couple of apache gunships fly over every couple of hours! im sure the airforce have a couple sitting around idle.
ALEX! The State of Arizona is the one that started the federal immigration suit against Sheriff Arpaio, they reported him to feds as he was investigating state and county corruption - Not brewer, but Attorney General GODDARD's office. He also is not representing the state/Brewer in the immigration efforts. Hint, AG also CPS child trafficking agency. #2 industry in Mexico? Sex trafficking. Nuff said.
That is because the corruption in Arizona has gone on for eternity. The state loves the illegal child trafficking (state CPS and corrupt adoption lawyers, judges, etc). Look up Don Bolles the reporter whose car they blew up because he got deep into the corruption. Investigative reporters from around the country had to fly in to cover it as the Arizona papers would not. ire.org/history/arizonaproject.html
@mamasuntwinkle - Link (upper right corner) on my ire article on Don Bolles. - Arizona Republic published a package of stories, photos and audio in remembrance of the 30th anniversary of the bombing that killed reporter Don Bolles. "source didn't show up. Bolles left the hotel, got into his car parked outside and turned the key. A powerful bomb ripped through the car, leaving Bolles mortally injured"
Arizona already was a police state, because they ignore the 9th Amendment (same as 10th A applicable to the state). Arizona is one of the top in violating individual natural rights. Alex's Rosamarie handicapped girl from NY that Arizona state police abused and threw her dog into traffic and killed him, CPS kidnapping children who die horrific deaths in state custody, etc. Boycott Arizona for the right reason - 9th A violations of citizens. They harrass sheriffs who go against state corruption
I do not know what he did, but to get tasered it should have been something at least. But I dont know because lately the cops have been just attacking, and tasering or shooting anyone. Well I am glad he won, because of the garbage the cops have been doing when they swear an oath to swear to protect the American people.
The treatment of Anderson is the consequence of him NOT BEING AS INNOCENT AS A DOVE! There is a time and place which is appropriate to stand your ground and this was, obviously, not the time or place. He needs to pray for wisdom from God! Granted, he gained victory, but look what he had to go through to get it. His conduct does not edify the body of Christ and for that reason, he was wrong to behave that way.
I can’t understand why you don’t just Google a search term and get us the answer for that.
If you can’t find it on Google, I’m sure it’s in “declassified government documents” somewhere.
I’ll bet most were going through a divorce, Alex, being separated from their children by the Family Courts and being persecuted by the courts in the process.
Like most, it’ll have to happen to you before you open your eyes.
Border Patrol Suicide my ass......those officers were probably the GOOD GUYS...and we all know what they do to the GOOD GUYS....staged suicides and heartattacks.
Did they all kill themselves or was it done for them because they might know or have seen something they weren't? I find that truly too odd, considering the great pay they get....what reason could cause them to kill themselves? Makes no sense whatsoever!
@gerrilea1 I'm telling you, the pastor is a fraud. Something is going on there that we the public are not hearing. I think some evidence was thrown out by some weasel lawyer.
Are you joking? You are killing me....oops sorry too soon. Their commiting suicide because they can not keep the illegals out....I think this is a media propanganda move to keep new recruits from joining the border control forces.
@MYTHECIES No, this is just him. He's insane. I get stopped by the border patrol all the time. All you have to do is say either yes or no to their questions. They are doing their job. This only proves that they don't discriminate on skin color. They ask everyone. He was being a shit head.
@TheKittengoddess The history of the present Barack Hussein Obama is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute TYRANNY over these United States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
@TheKittengoddess Bush did a lot long and Obama promised change "yes we can" he has back tracked and lied about everything he said, he promised change and boy are we getting it.
@MYTHECIES Actually, Obama is doing more than Bush. Under his administration we are catching more of the terrorists and deporting more illegals. Also, he's letting the Bush tax cuts run out for the uber-rich. Unless you are one of them, you got money back during this last tax season. I know I got more back. Yes, he's not doing enough for health care. We need nationalized health care. He could have done it if he wanted to. He could have pushed harder.
@TheKittengoddess My home state of Arizona has passed a bill that allows for a taxpayer funded border fence along the Arizona border because this illegal issue is destroying the economy-Obama-has put post-poned this construction-Also-we've voted to have the national gaurd on the border to further secure the states soverignty-This was also postponed-and cochise county is now WILD land where drugs and coyotes can push more negatives on the state without ANY police or border patrol presence!!!
@Jeenyus1983 Yeah, the government has always sucked at immigration. Bush wasn't any different, McCain didn't promise anything new. In fact, if you look at Obama's voting record and McCain's record, they almost mirror each other in a number of things. We wouldn't have been any better off with McCain in office over this. And there already is millions of dollars in video equipment laying around unused on the Arizona border. Did everyone forget about that?
@MYTHECIES What I don't like about Obama, and this goes beyond health care, is that his administration is trying to extend the Patriot Act to include looking at private emails. I was pissed at Bush for violating the Bill of Rights and I'm pissed at Obama about it. Other than that he hasn't been the best but he certainly has been better than Bush by a longshot.
@MYTHECIES Just because I voted for Obama doesn't mean I worship him or don't hold him accountable for things he does or doesn't do. If you want to accuse him of something, accuse him of something real. I was no fan of Dubbya either but I thought that the 911 conspiracy theories involving him were outrageous. I got onto people about those, too. Look through conspiracies and find the actual truth.
@MYTHECIES No one will care to read it, I'm sure. People just go through stuff and pick and choose what they want to hear. That's why Glenn Beck is so popular. No one cares to find out the actual truth about things so they rely on the interpretation of others. That's what makes people like him and this pastor Anderson so dangerous. They spoon feed their own brand of information to a half-educated public be it political or religious or whatever.
Support Arpaio and those like him who are under attack by the self-appointed masters of an utterly corrupt system. Surround him w/ a fortress of prayer and call your reps and elected officials to do their damn jobs and support the rule of law. I remember this pastor's case. It's great that he was cleared, but those pigs need to be busted up & ground down. Put them in GP w/ a lot of the other guys they've beaten, abused, & framed. These filthy cruds deserve to be reamed, raped, and ruined.
@TheKittengoddess My experience (and that of most people) is that prayer works, but no sensible person ever claimed it works alone. As I said, we also need to take other forms of action.
@Stepper11 Actually, there was a double blind clinical study done and the effects were reported at the American College of Cardiology's second annual conference on the integration of complementary medicine into cardiology and showed quite the opposite. No, prayer does not work. It's been proven.
@TheKittengoddess Why are you evangelical anti-theist so frightened. Many studies, despite your cherry picked results, show that prayer does indeed promote healing. But you already have your religion (which is all atheism really is) so there is no reasoning with you on this. Why can't you just leave people alone to believe as they want instead of spewing your sanctimonious and misinformed garbage in their face. You don't want to pray, so don't pray.
@TheKittengoddess What is really "double blind" is you, your inability to acknowledge all the other studies done that provide other results. But you don't like those studies, so you simply ignore them. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
@Stepper11 I don't want to pray and I don't want other Atheist children to be forced into praying either. It is the evangelical Christians who are trying to bring prayer back in schools and make the schools teach creationism in the classroom which we know is just Christianity in disguise. There are a lot of dirty tricks they pull trying to get into classrooms. That's just one of the issues I have with today's evangelicals.
@TheKittengoddess Mindless, uninformed fear is never a good basis for actions. You fear that your co-religionists' children will be 'forced" to pray. Won't happen. Your schools are safe from the horror of causing the children of pseudo-intellectual religionists from bowing their heads in humble recognition of a greater power. And your Darwinite faith is not under attack. Just some people would like to see an acknowlegement of other scientific ideas on the subject.
@Stepper11 But, like church authorities of the middle ages, you can't stand to see your world view, which has become modernist orthodoxy, come into question. The facts may chip away at your mythology, so they must be suppressed and banned. You behave EXACTLY like the religious master of yore, all the while claiming to be so much better. Think again.
@Stepper11 Mindless, uniformed fear is the way of religion. Yes, it would happen because it has happened before prayer was taken out of schools by the patriot Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Yeah, she was a bit on the sour grapes side but she was essential in bringing us forward in great strides. She was a true pioneer.
@TheKittengoddess O'Hair was a manic, vitriolic zealot, the type of zealot that is created only by his/her religion. Even her own son disowned her. The point is, your Atheist religion has become as or more hateful than any other of the past or present. Your rabid monkey style of attack upon me for the mere suggestion that people voluntaily join in prayer is a perfect example of the kind of hatred you pretend to oppose. You are a hypocrite.
@Stepper11 Yes, I'm not denying that she was a bitch. That doesn't discount her usefulness. School prayer was not "voluntary". It was forced upon other people's children. I'd like to go a few steps further and take the word "god" off of money and out of the Pledge of Allegiance but I know that is futile and there are better things to do. I'd just like to see it happen. The government is already anti-Atheist. It's hard to be the minority.
@TheKittengoddess She was a capital B word. At least we agree on one thing. : ) But please give up the martyr shtick. The govt is hardly anti-atheist. But the founders, along w/ the vast majority of its leadership until about 30 or 40 years ago, realized that belief in God is critical to upholding a value system consistent w/ our constitutional republic. At the same time, they recognized & fully accommodated your faith, the main tenant of which seems to be castigation of all other faiths.
@Stepper11 The founding fathers couldn't have been more progressive. At the time, our country was a secular experiment, and still is. The government has been getting more and more theistic as time goes on. We may be a country made up of Christians but we are not a Christian nation. Obama is correct when he says that we are a country of all faiths and non-faith. Not just Christian.
@TheKittengoddess No, our COUNTRY was never a secular experiment. Like most progressives, you confuse govt with the nation or country. We are a Christian nation w/ a secular govt.
@Stepper11 And actually, I have no faith. That's what makes me an Atheist. I have no belief in any sort of god or goddess. I require more proof than the circular logic of the Bible or the Koran or whatever holy book you put in front of me. I was raised Christian but with that came a constant belief that everyone was trying to bring me down for being one. It is the Christian who is conditioned to be a constant martyr yet our entire society is set up to cater to them.
@TheKittengoddess Anyone who states, "there is no God," is making a statement of faith. You cannot KNOW. If you say you do not observe or recognize a Creator because you have no first hand experience, & so DO NOT KNOW, then you're an agnostic, which is infinitely more intellectually defensible. But your above statement is confusing.You say everyone was trying to bring you down for your Christian beliefs. That disagrees w/ your sentiments that society caters to them. Maybe you're just paranoid.
@Stepper11 So there's the 10 Commandments in courthouses, putting hands on a Bible before someone testifies in court, In God We Trust on our money, "under god" in the pledge of allegiance...the govt. is obviously very supportive of Atheists. We should go further and make sure the Bible isn't available in public libraries and make the Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ start paying taxes. Oh wait, they have tax exempt status because the govt. isn't really that unfriendly to religion.
@TheKittengoddess Would you rather have someone take an oath or just say whatever the hell the feel like saying in a court. Personally, I'm more trusting of a person who thinks he'll burn in hell forever if he lies than I am of one who doesn't believe in anything. Unlike Dracula wannabees like you, most people don't burst into flames at the sight of a cross.
@Stepper11 I'd rather a person know he/she can be good on their own without thinking they are constantly being watched. As I said before, there are more Christians in prison, more of them get pregnant in their teens, more abortions,etc..It seems to me that they aren't to be trusted. I'd rather have an Atheist taking that oath. Since when do I have to have a belief in something to be considered trustworthy? I have led a more healthy and happy life now that I have shed the dogma of religion.
@Stepper11 And you're damn straight that they had better protect my 1st amendment rights. I have just as much right to say something as you do. The only problem is when I try to say something, someone like our last president comes out and says that because I don't believe in god I'm not really a U.S. citizen because this is "one nation under god". And Sarah Palin doesn't think we need a Constitutional lawyer for a leader? The dumb bitch.
@TheKittengoddess I'm no fan of the Shrub, but when did he say you were not a citizen. And we'd be doing much better as a nation if we did not have so many lawyers period, let alone a self-proclaimed expert as POTUS. If Ovomit knows so much about it, why is he trampling on it w/ every step he takes. The Bard may've gone too far in saying, "kill all the lawyers," but his point stands. You don't need a lawyer to know & understand the Constitution. A law degree just seems to destroy common sense.
@Stepper11 I apologize; it was George H. W. Bush on the campaign trail on Aug. 27, 1987 at O'Hair airport for a reporter for the American Atheist news journal, Robert Sherman
Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?
Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
@TheKittengoddess First off, Kitten, you need to get a freekin' job. Second, I'd like to see the comment in full context. Third, and most important, so what. Shrub is a bum and not representative of anyone important.
@Stepper11 There are certain evangelical Christian groups that lie to schools about their intent; they tell the principal or the superintendent that they are going to do talks about suicide prevention or drug use, and then they start ministering to the kids about Jesus Christ. They lie completely about why they are there to get into the school.
@TheKittengoddess Groups that misrepresent themselves that way should be treated as all fraudsters are treated. I am aware of activities like this & condemn them. This does not, though, mean we should condemn all Christian groups that offer honest, open helping hands. I know from personal experience that these types of outreach efforts do tremendous good for young people, and an attempt to end it all because of anti-theistic grudges is just - like MMO - bitchy.
@Stepper11 Actually, there are more suicide attempts, more people in prison, more teenage pregnancies and abortions in the Christian community than the non-theistic ones.
@TheKittengoddess First,"Christian community" is a highly specious & nebulous term, as is the concept of an athesit community. Second, since there are about 40 times as many Christians (and even the self-identification in those terms is nebulous and to be questioned) as atheists, you would expect more of them in every category. Right? Third, any stats (if you have them) are questionable due to the clear agenda-driven nature of the studies. Use that super-powered skepticism less selectively.
@Stepper11 Morality evolved just like everything else. It exists to an extent in the animal kingdom. I don't need god to be good. I am good already. Here are a few examples of how religious people really aren't as moral as non-believers: In an article titled, Evangelicas: Why Do We Have A Higher Divorce Rate? A Barna poll showed a divorce rate: Non-Denominational 34%, Mainline Protestants 25%,
@TheKittengoddess So what this proves, if anything, is that Christians are flawed humans who often fail to live up to the standards they themselves claim to hold. The failure to meet standards is not a reason to get rid of them. Secular ideas have infected Christian lives, so traditional values have less meaning to them. Call that evolution or degradation. Take your pick.
@Stepper11 Fables written in the bronze age by misogynistic drugged-out half-starved men in caves and tents is a perfect reason to get rid of religion.
@Stepper11 According to an article for My SA Blogs, Texas has the 2nd highest rate of teen pregnancy.The Healthy Futures Alliance, a growing bipartisan group of individuals from the medical, education and social services communities, has adopted a legislative agenda that proposes mandatory “scientifically accurate” information about condoms and contraceptives in sex education programs.
@TheKittengoddess A bunch of leftist, agenda-driven garbage, funded by organizations like Planned Parenthood, a shill for pro-abortion (ie baby killing) advocacy agitprop. Sorry, but the term 'bipartisan" is as risible as the term "liberation theology".
@Stepper11 Planned Parenthood is more than a haven for poor women with an unplanned pregnancy. It also does a lot in the field of education as well as STD prevention. Many years ago when I was very young and had no money they helped me with birth control.
@Stepper11 Texas kids are taught almost exclusively “abstinence-only” sex education and pointed out that state-adopted health textbooks don't include information about condoms and contraceptives. According to the Wiley and Wilson study, 9.5% of Texas public school districts are using religion to teach sexual education. According to Wiley and Wilson, all references to religion in sex ed programs are Christian, and mostly fundamentalist Protestant to boot.
@TheKittengoddess Abstinence is good for kids. That should not be a thesitic or Christian notion. It's common freeking sense. A local school here in Denver wants to give condoms to 6th graders. I guess sexualizing children is a good use of tax dollars. Stats prove that when kids are indocrinated about sex by secular do-gooders, pregancy & disease rates skyrocket.Speaking of skyrocket,look at what happened to teen pregnancy,STD, drop out, & crime when prayer was taken out of schools in the 60's.
@Stepper11 Show me some evidence that crime skyrocketed and has kept rising because prayer was taken out. Show me how the two are related and explain the drop in crime in the 1990's. Anyone can pray in school. No one took that right away. No one can stop a kid from praying. They just can't strong arm someone else's kids anymore.
@Stepper11 It is because of religious teachings that most teenagers are getting pregnant. Regardless of whatever world you think you live in, they are having sex at a younger age. They need to be taught. Myself, I am for abstinence advisement coupled with knowledge of birth control and STD's. That is the best way. Not the fully hard nosed religious nonsense from a book written in the bronze age.
@Stepper11 Unwed pregnant teens and twenty-somethings who attend or have graduated from private religious schools are more likely to obtain abortions than their peers from public schools, according to sociological research published in the June issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior.
@TheKittengoddess But abortion (baby killing) is a good thing, right? Anyway, does this study take into account any other factors, such as socio-economic status. Just curious on the details because I could not find this article.
@Stepper11 Whether you agree or disagree with abortion is up to you. Stopping a woman from having complete control of her body is what religion has taught for millennium. Once you take away that you start chipping away at birth control use. A woman must have control over herself. If you don't want an abortion then don't have one.
@TheKittengoddess She has control over her body but not the small body within her. To destroy that is to commit murder. life is an ontogentic process. Like all processes there is a beginning,middle, & end. The only inarguable beginning point of that process is conception. So to end that process premeditatively is to murder. But if you reject the commandments, then I guess you might as well reject, "Thou shalt not commit murder."
@TheKittengoddess Actually i dont watch Alex Jones I was looking for another video. Your comment attracted my attention. Before you attempt to pass judgement on the bible. Perhaps you should find out what was really going on first.
@vindicato15 Actually I have read the Bible when I still went to church and I'm reading it again from cover to cover now that I am fully an Atheist. It's a bunch of crap.
@vindicato15 Divinely fallible and full of holes and contradictions. Your god couldn't even get its own book right. It's like it was written by a drunk abusive paranoid schizophrenic dad who would come home late at night and beat his wife and kids for leaving their bike in the driveway or not having the dishes done. If you follow this asshole then you're retarded.
@TheKittengoddess God never abused anyone. Your making blanket statements and adhominem attacks that lead no where. Further if you don't have the reading comprehension to understand the bible then I could suggest some resource sights that help people like you with learning disabilities.
@TheKittengoddess I have read and studied the bible for well over 30 years. I am also well aware of many of the archeological finds that confirm the veracity of the bible. Further God never abused anyone. His Judgments are just.
@TheKittengoddess A day comes and soon will be when you with all creation will bow your knee and will confess him Lord of Lords and King of Kings. Any man who falls upon the stone shall be broken but if the stone fall upon any man he shall be ground to dust.
@TheKittengoddess If you listen to this Vindicato youre wasting your time. Hes an insane troll who thinks the government is after him and Jesus is gonna drift down a cloud to save him. He belongs in the middle ages. You have good posts though kittengoddess.. :)
@MercuryRis If the government was after me I'm more than certain they have the resources to apprehend me. They have no more power than what the Father has given them. If it is his will that I should be give to persecution then so be it. I am unafraid of anything on this world. I live by faith.
@TheKittengoddess seriously ALEx jones is a right wing shill.He tries to smear acorn,socialized health care,all programs to help the poor.And blames everything on the supposed NWO.Remember when he kept saying there would be martial law, and he said BP spill was just a distraction.HES A JOKE
@tomas6262 Isn't there some sort of debunking page? I've looked on the net and I can't really find a good one. I can just listen to this guy and tell he's a nut but I need to make my case point by point. I don't listen to him enough. Maybe I should? I can only take so much of it.
@TheKittengoddess If your talking about Alex Jones, your insane. He's got to be one of the best investigative journalist in decades. Ive personally many pulled documents from government sites that have confirmed at least 95% of his claims. Please do your research before making your crass assertions with absolutely no basis.
@TheKittengoddess religious? There's nothing religious about Greystone darlin'. Do you even know what we do? It's a security firm owned by Xe...lol. Sorry, but your a bit off with the religious theme. Take care.
@Stepper11 I've also noticed that religious types don't care about the living. Not really. They care about the unborn. After the baby is born who gives a crap. That's their attitude.
@TheKittengoddess Yours is a perspective based on poisonous experiences. You simply have a big chip on your shoulder and obviously WAAAAYYYY too much time on your hands. You lecture & preach about your own superiority w/ the relentless vifor of all religious fanatics. No fact, no argument, no truth will swerve you. But try to see the other side of things for once. You might learn something, & you might be happier. Read Peter Hitchens Rage Against God. It might help open up your world a bit.
@Stepper11 Christopher Hitchens is a little long-winded for me but he's only writing in the style of most Brits. I still like him. God Is Not Great was a really good one.
@Stepper11 In a blog from Everyday Christian. com, Pew found that 49 percent of the nation believes torture is at least sometimes justifiable,” Pitts wrote. “Slice that number by religious affiliation, though, and things get interesting. It turns out the religiously unaffiliated are the least likely (40 percent) to support torture, but that the more you attend church, the more likely you are to condone it.
@TheKittengoddess Hmm, a blog. Wow. Great sourcing. But let's accept the Pew poll at face value. What does religiusly unafilliated mean? I don't attend any church, although I do believe in God. Am I affiliated. And am I as capable of answering untruthfully as a limp-wristed lefty who pats himself on the back for how progressive he is? It's meaningless. What constitutes torture? Under what circumastances? Do innocent lives hang in the balance? The poll means nothing.
@Stepper11 Among racial/religious groups, white evangelical Protestants were far and away the most likely (62 percent) to support inflicting pain as a tool of interrogation.” To repeat: The people least likely to condone torture? Those with no religious affiliation. The folks most likely to approve it? White evangelical Protestants. 62 percent of evangelical Christians approve torture.
@TheKittengoddess If I honestly think slapping someone around is going to save a thousand innocent lives, I slap someone around. It's that simple. In that I'm in agreement with the white evangelicals. If it's in my power to save innocents at the cost of inflicting some discomfort or even pain, it woudl be immoral for me not to. This, of course, ignores the question of whether torture is efficacious. According to the information I've seen, it rarely is.
@Stepper11 Slapping someone around and all out torture are two different things. Yes, both are torturous to different degrees but not to condemn torture is not Christlike. Also, it has been proven that confessions are worthless under torture.
@TheKittengoddess You are committing torture. You torture logic. You better hope someone like me gets to the bad guys instead of some bleeding heart, simpering wimp if your life or the life of someone you care about ever hangs in the balance. I'll do what has to be done to save your sorry ass. Then I'll probably get kicked in the teeth for it. Very Christlike, actually.
@Stepper11 Actually, I don't believe you would even try to save my life because I am an Atheist where as I would save yours regardless of what faith you are.
@Stepper11 In a 1997 poll, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.21% of inmates were atheists. # Catholic 29267 39.164%, # Protestant 26162 35.008%, # Muslim 5435 7.273%, Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
@TheKittengoddess What's your point? Almost everyone finds God when he's rattling bars. It gives them hope in a dark, bleak environment, which atheism can't and doesn't pretend to do.
@Stepper11 If most people in America are Christian then it is likely that they were already Christians when they went into prison. Both parents were prison guards, most of the family friends were fellow prison guards who worked with my parents. According to them, yes, most people who went in were already calling themselves Christian. Many repeat offenders also found Christ inside of a prison cell the first time they were incarcerate.
@Stepper11 Analyzing of the criminal records and self-reported religious affiliations of 111 incarcerated sex offenders, researchers Donna Eshuys and Stephen Smallbone at Australia’s Griffith University found: that stayers (those who maintained religious involvement from childhood to adulthood) had more sexual offense convictions, more victims, and younger victims, than other groups.
@TheKittengoddess I'd be interested to see the "other groups" we're talking about. And since when is 111 people in Australia considered to be statistically significant sampling?
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What was the dog doing there in the first place? It is illegal to have a drug sniffing dog at an immigration checkpoint (source: City of Indianapolis v. Edmond).
snarky77005 4 months ago
I will say this: What the BP did was VERY wrong. What HE said about Obama was VERY wrong. He's isn't christian. Christians don't wish people to die. Christians want people to be saved. Obama, as much as I don't like him, is our commander in chief. We have to obey him. We don't have to respect him, but we do need to obey him.
223remsucks 7 months ago
dude you look at the vid and the cop did tell him to move his car to secondary
thelumberjackjohn 8 months ago
cpmondello Go get raped by the BP or any other authority figure and then come back and comment.
popacapnyoass 8 months ago
i actually felt bad for this pastor until his rant about hoping Obama dies and gets cancer like Ted Kennedy did. He is an anti-gay closet case in my opinion. Just keep watching as the truth unfolds.
cpmondello 9 months ago
Don't you people understand-American's are at war against Terrany-most you are do dumbed down and suppressed by Constitutional violating govern Agents that you believe- people that want to exercise their RIGHTS are wrong. You too will end up in a FEMA DEATH CAMP-It will be too late to ask for your RIGHTS then!
libertydogfight 1 year ago
yes!karma served in part.score one for the poor souls at the inquisition.that is messed up as far as incidents go.very suspicious.[love america ,dont like organized religion]
ninjafretshadow 1 year ago
Get the story right before running off your mouth about what happened to pastor Anderson. As a matter of fact get the story right on all of your reporting or complaining.
WestCoastSi 1 year ago
Waving illegals through and harassing citizens? This Alex Jones jackoff is such a drama queen attention whore.
Crime is lower in Arizona than it has ever been, you're a liar Jones.
Arpaio is going down, he's a little dictator who thinks he doesnt have to answer to the Feds. He's gonna find out different.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
An increase in suicides in Border Patrol agents. The contradiction is, if they admit have no idea why there is this spike, how can they possibly be sure it has nothing to do with the increased volatility?
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
Ask Jesus to save you! Romans 10:9
These things are beyond solving...turn to the Lord now while you still can. It's the only hope as Americans we have left.
FORMETOKNOWONLY 1 year ago
***WAKE-UP***
There is something seriously wrong with these Cops!!
The Propaganda training the police receive is very dangerous to "We The People"!!
The Attorney Generals, Commissioners, Chiefs, etc. are CORRUPT all the way up the ladder!! You are paying taxes to the criminal government and in-turn, they are screwing with your LIFE!!!
Police are nothing more than unconstitutional wealth transfer thugs! Revenue generators.
I do not want these criminals "protecting me"!!!
End The Fed!!!!
thomastholin 1 year ago
I head a foot on my head before before, but I tell you this, after that happened (don't tell the whole story) I was black listed. No cop in my State will stay by me by himself once my name is run, they will automatically request backup when they run my name. One cop was too scared to hand me my driver lisence back and threw it next to me instead of handing me it. =P
TheGenuineChristian 1 year ago
@TheGenuineChristian Yeah, that's the old life style. =P
TheGenuineChristian 1 year ago
Folks, you need to turn to Jesus while you still can.
FORMETOKNOWONLY 1 year ago
@FORMETOKNOWONLY Folks, you need to turn to Perseus while you still can.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
Man it's really creepy that Alex is supporting the police state, militarization of the border...
G95G95 1 year ago
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever."
George Orwell, 1984.
TheHolySpirit 1 year ago
This kind of stuff makes my physically ill. I'm not kidding. It turns my stomach and enrages me more than anything. Notice the demonic little piggy-fuckin'-scumbag at 8:50 seconds in this video. This demonic pig, I mean "Police Man", smashes the window, snears and curls his lip around his teeth and tasers Anderson. That pig looks liked a fat hill billy version of Agent Smith with glasses. Wait... MR. ANDERSON... AGENT SMITH... hmm... Anyhow, these cops are criminals in this case.
mrjustin5 1 year ago
THE BORDER PATROL SUICIDES ARE NOT ALL SELF INFLICTED DEATHS!
DON'T BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL STORIES
AND PASTOR STEVE IS OKAY BUT I HAVE ISSUES WITH SOME OF HIS TEACHINGS
BlessedONE333returnz 1 year ago
I HAVE TO OBEY A PIECE OF SHIT, BUT I DO NOT HAVE TO RESPECT A PIECE OF SHIT, MOST POLICEMEN ARE A PIECE OF SHIT.. MY WIFE AND I WAS TAKEN FROM OUR MOTOR HOME IN JOLIET, ILLINOIS KNOCK US TO THE GROUND AND BEATEN BY 4 POLICEMEN ABOUT 15 OTHER PLOICEMEN STOOD AROUND AND DID NOT HELP US. AT ALL. BLEEDING ALL OVER WE ARE 66 & 67 Y.O.
KYKIN44 1 year ago
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does anyone else think that alex needs to stop thinking that just because someone published something, that its true, or just because someone made a movie of it, its true. In either circumstance you can state things that make it seem like dots are connected that arnt. Also he injects words or side comments into things that totally sway the way the convo could go... ive yet to see actual critical thinking come from this man, just delusions.
MaBuSt 1 year ago
I think for once Alex Jones has an honest to God point. this is intentional, criminal incompetence at it's worst. On immigration the feds have been screwing the pooch for years they know it and have been trying to cover it up. so they take it out on the locals, this conspiracy makes sense.
mercenarydrunk 1 year ago
@Topmostpop I believe its Mazzy Star - Fade Into You
Its an early 90's song, and its awesome!!!
mmaaxx1198 1 year ago
FUCK MEXICO!!! We don't need mexico anymore, I learned how to make tacos all by myself, so we're good!
mmaaxx1198 1 year ago
Audit the FED and Get rid of them like Andrew Jackson did!
tpm6888 1 year ago
Please somebody tell me the name of the song at the beginning of this video. Please!!!!
SheikMaster3000 1 year ago
Dogs are instinctive THE HANDLER would have been frustrated that a PATRIOT refused his un-lawful orders and HE subconsciously wanted that CAR to have drugs the dog picked up on HIS conscious FRUSTRATIONS and was getting excited. TYPICAL FALSE positive.
TheShockmister 1 year ago
well heres an idea, go have a fake i.d. made that says your from mexico, steal mexican plates of those that are here and go do what you want!!!!
wheelori814 1 year ago
sue them crooks
bubbyslife2 1 year ago
i remember when this happened. this guy has his own youtube channel and he videoblogged his injuries. it was brutal.
imgdumpprep 1 year ago
Bill Thornton also explains how to bring suit against any public servants (including police) over stepping their granted jurisdiction and infringing on your private un-a-lien-able rights at common law.
Check out his three free audio seminars (Sovereignty, Motions, and Forms) on his site and all the supporting material from real court transcripts, claims and counterclaims, how to establish your standing at law as "one of the people" and how to establish a "court of record".
BT's site: 1215 org
kuriokazuki 1 year ago
Because of the actions of a mere handful of their civilians, we have GONE TO WAR against Afghanistan and Iraq. There are MILLIONS of Mexicans committing crimes here in the US every dasy. Why are we not at war with Mexico? They are clearly at war with us.
PistolPackingPatriot 1 year ago 2
Why not call him Mr ? ie Are you suggesting it worse to mistreat a pastor than anyone else ?
btw border patrol people are nearly always scum in my experience.
mrgbennet 1 year ago
A pastor with a mean streak ha...whats the odds of that? Love this dude!
Charmer4856 1 year ago
I wish you wouldn't have religious types on your show Mr Jones.
mrgbennet 1 year ago
heres an idea for dangerous regions of the border..... get a couple of apache gunships fly over every couple of hours! im sure the airforce have a couple sitting around idle.
kahlesstiberius 1 year ago
how that fff thas his know that the dog is thinking about alerting????????????!! jajajlol they got mistical powers!...crazy f.
blanca452 1 year ago
sorry alex.... but fXXX arpia i mean arpaio lol f him.
blanca452 1 year ago
ALEX! The State of Arizona is the one that started the federal immigration suit against Sheriff Arpaio, they reported him to feds as he was investigating state and county corruption - Not brewer, but Attorney General GODDARD's office. He also is not representing the state/Brewer in the immigration efforts. Hint, AG also CPS child trafficking agency. #2 industry in Mexico? Sex trafficking. Nuff said.
mamasuntwinkle 1 year ago
That is because the corruption in Arizona has gone on for eternity. The state loves the illegal child trafficking (state CPS and corrupt adoption lawyers, judges, etc). Look up Don Bolles the reporter whose car they blew up because he got deep into the corruption. Investigative reporters from around the country had to fly in to cover it as the Arizona papers would not. ire.org/history/arizonaproject.html
mamasuntwinkle 1 year ago
@mamasuntwinkle - Link (upper right corner) on my ire article on Don Bolles. - Arizona Republic published a package of stories, photos and audio in remembrance of the 30th anniversary of the bombing that killed reporter Don Bolles. "source didn't show up. Bolles left the hotel, got into his car parked outside and turned the key. A powerful bomb ripped through the car, leaving Bolles mortally injured"
azcentral (dot) com/specials/special01/
mamasuntwinkle 1 year ago
Gestapo
TheGoodThanks 1 year ago
Arizona already was a police state, because they ignore the 9th Amendment (same as 10th A applicable to the state). Arizona is one of the top in violating individual natural rights. Alex's Rosamarie handicapped girl from NY that Arizona state police abused and threw her dog into traffic and killed him, CPS kidnapping children who die horrific deaths in state custody, etc. Boycott Arizona for the right reason - 9th A violations of citizens. They harrass sheriffs who go against state corruption
mamasuntwinkle 1 year ago
I do not know what he did, but to get tasered it should have been something at least. But I dont know because lately the cops have been just attacking, and tasering or shooting anyone. Well I am glad he won, because of the garbage the cops have been doing when they swear an oath to swear to protect the American people.
openthesilencers1223 1 year ago
The treatment of Anderson is the consequence of him NOT BEING AS INNOCENT AS A DOVE! There is a time and place which is appropriate to stand your ground and this was, obviously, not the time or place. He needs to pray for wisdom from God! Granted, he gained victory, but look what he had to go through to get it. His conduct does not edify the body of Christ and for that reason, he was wrong to behave that way.
SupportFreedom1 1 year ago
Those suicides need to be researched Alex.
I can’t understand why you don’t just Google a search term and get us the answer for that.
If you can’t find it on Google, I’m sure it’s in “declassified government documents” somewhere.
I’ll bet most were going through a divorce, Alex, being separated from their children by the Family Courts and being persecuted by the courts in the process.
Like most, it’ll have to happen to you before you open your eyes.
KevinMerck 1 year ago
whats the name of the song at the start???? thanks
tomm4272 1 year ago
That cops face @08:55= PURE EVIL.
rivercarper01 1 year ago 2
thats what i was saying,that creeped me out,but at the same time pissed me off so bad!!,makes me wanna go to the gun range again.
k5lta 1 year ago
border patrol = police academy rejects
nosaaj 1 year ago
Border Patrol Suicide my ass......those officers were probably the GOOD GUYS...and we all know what they do to the GOOD GUYS....staged suicides and heartattacks.
FYRFOX198 1 year ago
Did they all kill themselves or was it done for them because they might know or have seen something they weren't? I find that truly too odd, considering the great pay they get....what reason could cause them to kill themselves? Makes no sense whatsoever!
gerrilea1 1 year ago
@gerrilea1 I'm telling you, the pastor is a fraud. Something is going on there that we the public are not hearing. I think some evidence was thrown out by some weasel lawyer.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
If we are ever get visited by aliens from outer space they will have more rights then those of natural born American Citizens
MYTHECIES 1 year ago
Are you joking? You are killing me....oops sorry too soon. Their commiting suicide because they can not keep the illegals out....I think this is a media propanganda move to keep new recruits from joining the border control forces.
MYTHECIES 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES No, this is just him. He's insane. I get stopped by the border patrol all the time. All you have to do is say either yes or no to their questions. They are doing their job. This only proves that they don't discriminate on skin color. They ask everyone. He was being a shit head.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess The history of the present Barack Hussein Obama is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute TYRANNY over these United States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
Search crimes of Obama.
MYTHECIES 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES You confuse tyranny with losing an election.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES Search crimes of George W. Bush.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Bush did a lot long and Obama promised change "yes we can" he has back tracked and lied about everything he said, he promised change and boy are we getting it.
MYTHECIES 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES Actually, Obama is doing more than Bush. Under his administration we are catching more of the terrorists and deporting more illegals. Also, he's letting the Bush tax cuts run out for the uber-rich. Unless you are one of them, you got money back during this last tax season. I know I got more back. Yes, he's not doing enough for health care. We need nationalized health care. He could have done it if he wanted to. He could have pushed harder.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess My home state of Arizona has passed a bill that allows for a taxpayer funded border fence along the Arizona border because this illegal issue is destroying the economy-Obama-has put post-poned this construction-Also-we've voted to have the national gaurd on the border to further secure the states soverignty-This was also postponed-and cochise county is now WILD land where drugs and coyotes can push more negatives on the state without ANY police or border patrol presence!!!
Jeenyus1983 1 year ago
@Jeenyus1983 Yeah, the government has always sucked at immigration. Bush wasn't any different, McCain didn't promise anything new. In fact, if you look at Obama's voting record and McCain's record, they almost mirror each other in a number of things. We wouldn't have been any better off with McCain in office over this. And there already is millions of dollars in video equipment laying around unused on the Arizona border. Did everyone forget about that?
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES What I don't like about Obama, and this goes beyond health care, is that his administration is trying to extend the Patriot Act to include looking at private emails. I was pissed at Bush for violating the Bill of Rights and I'm pissed at Obama about it. Other than that he hasn't been the best but he certainly has been better than Bush by a longshot.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess I,m glad we have met in the middle. Thank you for such a great argument I hope someone else besides us will read our rants.
MYTHECIES 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES Just because I voted for Obama doesn't mean I worship him or don't hold him accountable for things he does or doesn't do. If you want to accuse him of something, accuse him of something real. I was no fan of Dubbya either but I thought that the 911 conspiracy theories involving him were outrageous. I got onto people about those, too. Look through conspiracies and find the actual truth.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@MYTHECIES No one will care to read it, I'm sure. People just go through stuff and pick and choose what they want to hear. That's why Glenn Beck is so popular. No one cares to find out the actual truth about things so they rely on the interpretation of others. That's what makes people like him and this pastor Anderson so dangerous. They spoon feed their own brand of information to a half-educated public be it political or religious or whatever.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
Constitution? What is that ?
MYTHECIES 1 year ago
If the cops lied on the stand they commited perjury and should go to prison, after losing their job .
Taxidriver987 1 year ago 2
Support Arpaio and those like him who are under attack by the self-appointed masters of an utterly corrupt system. Surround him w/ a fortress of prayer and call your reps and elected officials to do their damn jobs and support the rule of law. I remember this pastor's case. It's great that he was cleared, but those pigs need to be busted up & ground down. Put them in GP w/ a lot of the other guys they've beaten, abused, & framed. These filthy cruds deserve to be reamed, raped, and ruined.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 "fortress of prayer" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Two hands working accomplishes more than a thousand clasped in prayer.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess My experience (and that of most people) is that prayer works, but no sensible person ever claimed it works alone. As I said, we also need to take other forms of action.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Actually, there was a double blind clinical study done and the effects were reported at the American College of Cardiology's second annual conference on the integration of complementary medicine into cardiology and showed quite the opposite. No, prayer does not work. It's been proven.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Why are you evangelical anti-theist so frightened. Many studies, despite your cherry picked results, show that prayer does indeed promote healing. But you already have your religion (which is all atheism really is) so there is no reasoning with you on this. Why can't you just leave people alone to believe as they want instead of spewing your sanctimonious and misinformed garbage in their face. You don't want to pray, so don't pray.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 No, in a double blind clinical study, it has been proven and published as I stated below, that prayer does not work.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess What is really "double blind" is you, your inability to acknowledge all the other studies done that provide other results. But you don't like those studies, so you simply ignore them. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 I don't want to pray and I don't want other Atheist children to be forced into praying either. It is the evangelical Christians who are trying to bring prayer back in schools and make the schools teach creationism in the classroom which we know is just Christianity in disguise. There are a lot of dirty tricks they pull trying to get into classrooms. That's just one of the issues I have with today's evangelicals.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Sorry, I meant to say the Atheist children of other people. I worded that wrong. My apologies.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Mindless, uninformed fear is never a good basis for actions. You fear that your co-religionists' children will be 'forced" to pray. Won't happen. Your schools are safe from the horror of causing the children of pseudo-intellectual religionists from bowing their heads in humble recognition of a greater power. And your Darwinite faith is not under attack. Just some people would like to see an acknowlegement of other scientific ideas on the subject.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 But, like church authorities of the middle ages, you can't stand to see your world view, which has become modernist orthodoxy, come into question. The facts may chip away at your mythology, so they must be suppressed and banned. You behave EXACTLY like the religious master of yore, all the while claiming to be so much better. Think again.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Mindless, uniformed fear is the way of religion. Yes, it would happen because it has happened before prayer was taken out of schools by the patriot Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Yeah, she was a bit on the sour grapes side but she was essential in bringing us forward in great strides. She was a true pioneer.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess O'Hair was a manic, vitriolic zealot, the type of zealot that is created only by his/her religion. Even her own son disowned her. The point is, your Atheist religion has become as or more hateful than any other of the past or present. Your rabid monkey style of attack upon me for the mere suggestion that people voluntaily join in prayer is a perfect example of the kind of hatred you pretend to oppose. You are a hypocrite.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Yes, I'm not denying that she was a bitch. That doesn't discount her usefulness. School prayer was not "voluntary". It was forced upon other people's children. I'd like to go a few steps further and take the word "god" off of money and out of the Pledge of Allegiance but I know that is futile and there are better things to do. I'd just like to see it happen. The government is already anti-Atheist. It's hard to be the minority.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess She was a capital B word. At least we agree on one thing. : ) But please give up the martyr shtick. The govt is hardly anti-atheist. But the founders, along w/ the vast majority of its leadership until about 30 or 40 years ago, realized that belief in God is critical to upholding a value system consistent w/ our constitutional republic. At the same time, they recognized & fully accommodated your faith, the main tenant of which seems to be castigation of all other faiths.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 The founding fathers couldn't have been more progressive. At the time, our country was a secular experiment, and still is. The government has been getting more and more theistic as time goes on. We may be a country made up of Christians but we are not a Christian nation. Obama is correct when he says that we are a country of all faiths and non-faith. Not just Christian.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess No, our COUNTRY was never a secular experiment. Like most progressives, you confuse govt with the nation or country. We are a Christian nation w/ a secular govt.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 And actually, I have no faith. That's what makes me an Atheist. I have no belief in any sort of god or goddess. I require more proof than the circular logic of the Bible or the Koran or whatever holy book you put in front of me. I was raised Christian but with that came a constant belief that everyone was trying to bring me down for being one. It is the Christian who is conditioned to be a constant martyr yet our entire society is set up to cater to them.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Anyone who states, "there is no God," is making a statement of faith. You cannot KNOW. If you say you do not observe or recognize a Creator because you have no first hand experience, & so DO NOT KNOW, then you're an agnostic, which is infinitely more intellectually defensible. But your above statement is confusing.You say everyone was trying to bring you down for your Christian beliefs. That disagrees w/ your sentiments that society caters to them. Maybe you're just paranoid.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 So there's the 10 Commandments in courthouses, putting hands on a Bible before someone testifies in court, In God We Trust on our money, "under god" in the pledge of allegiance...the govt. is obviously very supportive of Atheists. We should go further and make sure the Bible isn't available in public libraries and make the Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ start paying taxes. Oh wait, they have tax exempt status because the govt. isn't really that unfriendly to religion.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Would you rather have someone take an oath or just say whatever the hell the feel like saying in a court. Personally, I'm more trusting of a person who thinks he'll burn in hell forever if he lies than I am of one who doesn't believe in anything. Unlike Dracula wannabees like you, most people don't burst into flames at the sight of a cross.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 I'd rather a person know he/she can be good on their own without thinking they are constantly being watched. As I said before, there are more Christians in prison, more of them get pregnant in their teens, more abortions,etc..It seems to me that they aren't to be trusted. I'd rather have an Atheist taking that oath. Since when do I have to have a belief in something to be considered trustworthy? I have led a more healthy and happy life now that I have shed the dogma of religion.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 And you're damn straight that they had better protect my 1st amendment rights. I have just as much right to say something as you do. The only problem is when I try to say something, someone like our last president comes out and says that because I don't believe in god I'm not really a U.S. citizen because this is "one nation under god". And Sarah Palin doesn't think we need a Constitutional lawyer for a leader? The dumb bitch.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess So you're love being a slave of the illuminati better than being with God. wow nice......... :-/
7895225789 1 year ago
@7895225789 You can't prove that either one exists.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess I'm no fan of the Shrub, but when did he say you were not a citizen. And we'd be doing much better as a nation if we did not have so many lawyers period, let alone a self-proclaimed expert as POTUS. If Ovomit knows so much about it, why is he trampling on it w/ every step he takes. The Bard may've gone too far in saying, "kill all the lawyers," but his point stands. You don't need a lawyer to know & understand the Constitution. A law degree just seems to destroy common sense.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 I apologize; it was George H. W. Bush on the campaign trail on Aug. 27, 1987 at O'Hair airport for a reporter for the American Atheist news journal, Robert Sherman
Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?
Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess First off, Kitten, you need to get a freekin' job. Second, I'd like to see the comment in full context. Third, and most important, so what. Shrub is a bum and not representative of anyone important.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Actually, I have a job and I explained to you that I made a mistake. The quote was from his father.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 There are certain evangelical Christian groups that lie to schools about their intent; they tell the principal or the superintendent that they are going to do talks about suicide prevention or drug use, and then they start ministering to the kids about Jesus Christ. They lie completely about why they are there to get into the school.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Groups that misrepresent themselves that way should be treated as all fraudsters are treated. I am aware of activities like this & condemn them. This does not, though, mean we should condemn all Christian groups that offer honest, open helping hands. I know from personal experience that these types of outreach efforts do tremendous good for young people, and an attempt to end it all because of anti-theistic grudges is just - like MMO - bitchy.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Actually, there are more suicide attempts, more people in prison, more teenage pregnancies and abortions in the Christian community than the non-theistic ones.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess First,"Christian community" is a highly specious & nebulous term, as is the concept of an athesit community. Second, since there are about 40 times as many Christians (and even the self-identification in those terms is nebulous and to be questioned) as atheists, you would expect more of them in every category. Right? Third, any stats (if you have them) are questionable due to the clear agenda-driven nature of the studies. Use that super-powered skepticism less selectively.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 In which category are you talking about?
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
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Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Morality evolved just like everything else. It exists to an extent in the animal kingdom. I don't need god to be good. I am good already. Here are a few examples of how religious people really aren't as moral as non-believers: In an article titled, Evangelicas: Why Do We Have A Higher Divorce Rate? A Barna poll showed a divorce rate: Non-Denominational 34%, Mainline Protestants 25%,
Atheists/Agnostics 21%
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess So what this proves, if anything, is that Christians are flawed humans who often fail to live up to the standards they themselves claim to hold. The failure to meet standards is not a reason to get rid of them. Secular ideas have infected Christian lives, so traditional values have less meaning to them. Call that evolution or degradation. Take your pick.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Fables written in the bronze age by misogynistic drugged-out half-starved men in caves and tents is a perfect reason to get rid of religion.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 According to an article for My SA Blogs, Texas has the 2nd highest rate of teen pregnancy.The Healthy Futures Alliance, a growing bipartisan group of individuals from the medical, education and social services communities, has adopted a legislative agenda that proposes mandatory “scientifically accurate” information about condoms and contraceptives in sex education programs.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess A bunch of leftist, agenda-driven garbage, funded by organizations like Planned Parenthood, a shill for pro-abortion (ie baby killing) advocacy agitprop. Sorry, but the term 'bipartisan" is as risible as the term "liberation theology".
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Planned Parenthood is more than a haven for poor women with an unplanned pregnancy. It also does a lot in the field of education as well as STD prevention. Many years ago when I was very young and had no money they helped me with birth control.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Texas kids are taught almost exclusively “abstinence-only” sex education and pointed out that state-adopted health textbooks don't include information about condoms and contraceptives. According to the Wiley and Wilson study, 9.5% of Texas public school districts are using religion to teach sexual education. According to Wiley and Wilson, all references to religion in sex ed programs are Christian, and mostly fundamentalist Protestant to boot.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Abstinence is good for kids. That should not be a thesitic or Christian notion. It's common freeking sense. A local school here in Denver wants to give condoms to 6th graders. I guess sexualizing children is a good use of tax dollars. Stats prove that when kids are indocrinated about sex by secular do-gooders, pregancy & disease rates skyrocket.Speaking of skyrocket,look at what happened to teen pregnancy,STD, drop out, & crime when prayer was taken out of schools in the 60's.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Show me some evidence that crime skyrocketed and has kept rising because prayer was taken out. Show me how the two are related and explain the drop in crime in the 1990's. Anyone can pray in school. No one took that right away. No one can stop a kid from praying. They just can't strong arm someone else's kids anymore.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 It is because of religious teachings that most teenagers are getting pregnant. Regardless of whatever world you think you live in, they are having sex at a younger age. They need to be taught. Myself, I am for abstinence advisement coupled with knowledge of birth control and STD's. That is the best way. Not the fully hard nosed religious nonsense from a book written in the bronze age.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 I'd rather my tax dollars go to condoms than to welfare.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Unwed pregnant teens and twenty-somethings who attend or have graduated from private religious schools are more likely to obtain abortions than their peers from public schools, according to sociological research published in the June issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess But abortion (baby killing) is a good thing, right? Anyway, does this study take into account any other factors, such as socio-economic status. Just curious on the details because I could not find this article.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Whether you agree or disagree with abortion is up to you. Stopping a woman from having complete control of her body is what religion has taught for millennium. Once you take away that you start chipping away at birth control use. A woman must have control over herself. If you don't want an abortion then don't have one.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess She has control over her body but not the small body within her. To destroy that is to commit murder. life is an ontogentic process. Like all processes there is a beginning,middle, & end. The only inarguable beginning point of that process is conception. So to end that process premeditatively is to murder. But if you reject the commandments, then I guess you might as well reject, "Thou shalt not commit murder."
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Ah the commandments from the same Bible that commands genocide and killing babies in their wombs.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago 2
@TheKittengoddess Do you even know why this was ordered? Rephaim, Anakim, etc Do you know what they where? Probably not.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 Do you even know what douches both these guys are? Probably not.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Actually i dont watch Alex Jones I was looking for another video. Your comment attracted my attention. Before you attempt to pass judgement on the bible. Perhaps you should find out what was really going on first.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 Actually I have read the Bible when I still went to church and I'm reading it again from cover to cover now that I am fully an Atheist. It's a bunch of crap.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess No it's divine truth.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 Divinely fallible and full of holes and contradictions. Your god couldn't even get its own book right. It's like it was written by a drunk abusive paranoid schizophrenic dad who would come home late at night and beat his wife and kids for leaving their bike in the driveway or not having the dishes done. If you follow this asshole then you're retarded.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess God never abused anyone. Your making blanket statements and adhominem attacks that lead no where. Further if you don't have the reading comprehension to understand the bible then I could suggest some resource sights that help people like you with learning disabilities.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 God is very abusive. Apparently you haven' t read your Bible.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess I have read and studied the bible for well over 30 years. I am also well aware of many of the archeological finds that confirm the veracity of the bible. Further God never abused anyone. His Judgments are just.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 He is abusive and psychotic. You have obviously been reading the wrong book.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess No I've read the right book. God is worthy of all praise and honor.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 Well, if abusive shits are who you look up to then I guess you read the right book.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess A day comes and soon will be when you with all creation will bow your knee and will confess him Lord of Lords and King of Kings. Any man who falls upon the stone shall be broken but if the stone fall upon any man he shall be ground to dust.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess As you laugh now. So shall the Lord laugh at your calamity.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@vindicato15 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess If you listen to this Vindicato youre wasting your time. Hes an insane troll who thinks the government is after him and Jesus is gonna drift down a cloud to save him. He belongs in the middle ages. You have good posts though kittengoddess.. :)
MercuryRis 1 year ago
@MercuryRis If the government was after me I'm more than certain they have the resources to apprehend me. They have no more power than what the Father has given them. If it is his will that I should be give to persecution then so be it. I am unafraid of anything on this world. I live by faith.
vindicato15 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess seriously ALEx jones is a right wing shill.He tries to smear acorn,socialized health care,all programs to help the poor.And blames everything on the supposed NWO.Remember when he kept saying there would be martial law, and he said BP spill was just a distraction.HES A JOKE
tomas6262 1 year ago
@tomas6262 Isn't there some sort of debunking page? I've looked on the net and I can't really find a good one. I can just listen to this guy and tell he's a nut but I need to make my case point by point. I don't listen to him enough. Maybe I should? I can only take so much of it.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
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SargentandGreenLeaf 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess If your talking about Alex Jones, your insane. He's got to be one of the best investigative journalist in decades. Ive personally many pulled documents from government sites that have confirmed at least 95% of his claims. Please do your research before making your crass assertions with absolutely no basis.
helobelow 1 year ago
@helobelow No, he's insane.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess ok but my years working with Greystone tell me otherwise, best of luck to ya. Cheers.
helobelow 1 year ago
@helobelow I'm very anti-theist. The fact that you work in a religious organization at all gives me my doubts about you.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess religious? There's nothing religious about Greystone darlin'. Do you even know what we do? It's a security firm owned by Xe...lol. Sorry, but your a bit off with the religious theme. Take care.
helobelow 1 year ago
@tomas6262 He belongs in the wrestling ring.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 I've also noticed that religious types don't care about the living. Not really. They care about the unborn. After the baby is born who gives a crap. That's their attitude.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Yours is a perspective based on poisonous experiences. You simply have a big chip on your shoulder and obviously WAAAAYYYY too much time on your hands. You lecture & preach about your own superiority w/ the relentless vifor of all religious fanatics. No fact, no argument, no truth will swerve you. But try to see the other side of things for once. You might learn something, & you might be happier. Read Peter Hitchens Rage Against God. It might help open up your world a bit.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Christopher Hitchens is a little long-winded for me but he's only writing in the style of most Brits. I still like him. God Is Not Great was a really good one.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 In a blog from Everyday Christian. com, Pew found that 49 percent of the nation believes torture is at least sometimes justifiable,” Pitts wrote. “Slice that number by religious affiliation, though, and things get interesting. It turns out the religiously unaffiliated are the least likely (40 percent) to support torture, but that the more you attend church, the more likely you are to condone it.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess Hmm, a blog. Wow. Great sourcing. But let's accept the Pew poll at face value. What does religiusly unafilliated mean? I don't attend any church, although I do believe in God. Am I affiliated. And am I as capable of answering untruthfully as a limp-wristed lefty who pats himself on the back for how progressive he is? It's meaningless. What constitutes torture? Under what circumastances? Do innocent lives hang in the balance? The poll means nothing.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Among racial/religious groups, white evangelical Protestants were far and away the most likely (62 percent) to support inflicting pain as a tool of interrogation.” To repeat: The people least likely to condone torture? Those with no religious affiliation. The folks most likely to approve it? White evangelical Protestants. 62 percent of evangelical Christians approve torture.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess If I honestly think slapping someone around is going to save a thousand innocent lives, I slap someone around. It's that simple. In that I'm in agreement with the white evangelicals. If it's in my power to save innocents at the cost of inflicting some discomfort or even pain, it woudl be immoral for me not to. This, of course, ignores the question of whether torture is efficacious. According to the information I've seen, it rarely is.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Slapping someone around and all out torture are two different things. Yes, both are torturous to different degrees but not to condemn torture is not Christlike. Also, it has been proven that confessions are worthless under torture.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 There you go. You call yourself Christian yet you condone torture. Point made.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess You are committing torture. You torture logic. You better hope someone like me gets to the bad guys instead of some bleeding heart, simpering wimp if your life or the life of someone you care about ever hangs in the balance. I'll do what has to be done to save your sorry ass. Then I'll probably get kicked in the teeth for it. Very Christlike, actually.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Actually, I don't believe you would even try to save my life because I am an Atheist where as I would save yours regardless of what faith you are.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 In a 1997 poll, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.21% of inmates were atheists. # Catholic 29267 39.164%, # Protestant 26162 35.008%, # Muslim 5435 7.273%, Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess What's your point? Almost everyone finds God when he's rattling bars. It gives them hope in a dark, bleak environment, which atheism can't and doesn't pretend to do.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 If most people in America are Christian then it is likely that they were already Christians when they went into prison. Both parents were prison guards, most of the family friends were fellow prison guards who worked with my parents. According to them, yes, most people who went in were already calling themselves Christian. Many repeat offenders also found Christ inside of a prison cell the first time they were incarcerate.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@Stepper11 Analyzing of the criminal records and self-reported religious affiliations of 111 incarcerated sex offenders, researchers Donna Eshuys and Stephen Smallbone at Australia’s Griffith University found: that stayers (those who maintained religious involvement from childhood to adulthood) had more sexual offense convictions, more victims, and younger victims, than other groups.
TheKittengoddess 1 year ago
@TheKittengoddess I'd be interested to see the "other groups" we're talking about. And since when is 111 people in Australia considered to be statistically significant sampling?
Stepper11 1 year ago