Simple: Water boarding is stupid and extremely careless. Why? 'Quid pro quo' - look it up. No actionable intelligence can be gleaned from a coerced or forced subject. He/she will fantasize all types of unlikely scenarios to get them OFF 'the board'. Detailed mental fabrications that waste the time of interrogators. We need to spend more time training our intelligence community in better human intelligence trade craft than delving into high school bully tactics that have very specious results.
Agreed. Ofcourse if Waterboarding works so well and is not torture why has the United States only used it on a few prisoners. If its totally legal everyone captured by the US could recieve "harsh interrogations" including waterboarding to extract information.
The US police officers could use it to extract information from criminals aswell as its not torture or against anyones human rights.
Waterboarding is torture, Torture is illegal, Bush is a criminal :)
I really don't see what the problem is. If it gets us the information we need I hope we keep on using this technique. We are fighting this war with our hands tied behind our back. We are destroying ourselves from within. This country is full of pansies.
You'll see the problem quickly when and if you are shipped out to Iran or Venezuela and become a POW... They do to us what we do to them - GET IT? Your callous disregard for basic human rights speaks volumes about our "pansy nation"...
I read ur response to me and i was digusted with what u said, yet in reply to smith you said the right thing. If you are against torture how can u be so rude to insult John Mccain who was captured and tortured while serving his country...
I am NOT against JM... I just don't elevate him to a "great" choice as POTUS. Me comparing him to Dubya' was unfortunate. You're right I should have pick a better negative example than him but I couldn't think of one while I was typing...
I have written a dozen letters to Bill Richardson about plans for national health care. All were ignored. The insurance company elite continue to drag money from employers for work comp and refuse to pay the medical bills of forgotten injured health care and 911 rescue workers. Seems like Bill Richardson is another member of the elite. Adventist Health System. God Bless America.
Dude, your flag is backawards. When displaying the flag against a wall, vertically or horizontally, the flag's union (stars) should be at the top, to the flag's own right, and to the observer's left. The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general.
Yeah YKMay8r I guess that's why Gen. Patton used the flag as drapery decoration too (tinyurl DOT com/yoysf8) on June 5th, 1944 during his speech to the 3rd Army on the eve of D-Day.
this was a great question and McCains answer was perfect. John is clearly the most qualified to win the war in Iraq and his positions on torture has made him very popular abroad. He would be a great choice for president.
Win what war in Iraq? Congress never declared war on any country only the Taliban in Afghanistan. The rest was some crap about WMDs which NEVER panned out. There's nothing to win - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED time to come home! McCain is great because he got caught and sat out the rest of the VN war? That's like saying Dubya's VN war record was great.
Nice. Way to slam a war hero with your ignorant statement. Read a book or two. The LAST thing Senator McCain was doing was "Sitting out" the war. You crazies can think he's a war hawk if you want. You can think he's a NAFTA goone if you're really crazy. But this is something out of bounds. Your statement is so far outside the grasp of reality that I fear for the genepool.
Jonzie25 - Uhhh "sitting out the war" doesn't mean what you think it means. Just just means that he was taken out of circulation by the VC and was not returned to service until it was all over. How did he get into that awful situation? Good leadership qualities? Obeying orders? Good judgment? Equipment failure? IMWTK (Inq minds want 2 know). I really don't know do you??? You should if he's yer' hero...
Jonzie25 - OK I took the time to Google John McCain's war record & torture. Please 'splain this to me: On 27Oct1967 4d after being shot down, he called for VC guard: "OK, I'll give you mil-info if you will take me to hosp." -U.S. News and World Report, 14May1973
I agree with Jonzie ur comment on what happened during VN was pretty sick. How you can compare someone that served and was captured by the enemy with someone whos daddy helped get him out of military service i dont know.
McCain is great because long before Rumsfeld left the Pentagon, McCain was calling for his resignation saying the current war plan was a disaster. He is great because no matter how unpopular it makes him with the disgusting right wing Americans he speaks out against torture
I wasn't besmirching McCain's war record. My point was that VNW doesn't make him a "great" choice for leader of a world super-power. Whatever else his qualities are beyond his military prowess is par with everyone else running. He's only a fallible human being who happens to be a Conservative-Republican! I don't favor ANYONE of them as our future leader...
I view both of your responses to me as purely subjectively partisan rather than intellectually objective... now that is disgusting.
Honestly, I don't mind being criticized, but after your stupid, thoughtless and rediculous statement, I really don't care about what you think. Get a grip.
Jonzie - Did you actually read my last response? "'Splain to me Lucy*" how it was "thoughtless, stupid, and R-E-D-iculous"? Oh I guess I should have considered your young age... my bad...
Waterboarding is torture. I thought I served a country that did not allow torture, but I guess my 20 years in the military was wasted! I now find our government is on the same par as Nazi Germany!
The stars in the Flag are always supposed to be in the top left whether vertical or horizontal, so you are displaying it incorrectly. I just thought it was funny when i was watching the debate 2 hours ago and saw the flag in you video displayed wrong.
Well come on, use some common sense ;) his audience, via the camera, will be looking at him with the stars on his left, when it should be his right (and left). But congrats, the video maker just made himself look like an idiot on national TV. Maybe twice, I don't know if his other vid made it to the debate. Just pointing out this fact, I'm not saying he is an idiot... but obviously doesn't know the basics of flags
i understand its not the proper placement but theres many possibilities why its on that way. Maybe its a very long flag on a short wall so vertical placement it the only alternative and since its not a more expensive flag (stitched evenly on both sides) if its not placed that way it would either by fully upside down (i.e. stars on bottom left) or showing the back with bad stitching (albeit correct placement). meh, i thought i looked akward on tv too
It would actually be nice to hear a true response to the questions being asked... is it a requirement to be a "sidestepper" to be a Republican candidate?????
The real torture is watching these hippo critical candidates say they believe in the Bible then promote killing, torture & war. War only begets War. You just make more terrorists out of the children & relatives of the Iraqis you are killing & maiming. There are no winners in war!
Totally not true... God does not require physical war from Christians today only from the ancient Israelites for very good but esoteric reasons. No room here in Youtube to explain...
BRYANTREE - the word is "hypocritical" not hippo critical. B
Simple: Water boarding is stupid and extremely careless. Why? 'Quid pro quo' - look it up. No actionable intelligence can be gleaned from a coerced or forced subject. He/she will fantasize all types of unlikely scenarios to get them OFF 'the board'. Detailed mental fabrications that waste the time of interrogators. We need to spend more time training our intelligence community in better human intelligence trade craft than delving into high school bully tactics that have very specious results.
Spookysr 4 years ago
Agreed. Ofcourse if Waterboarding works so well and is not torture why has the United States only used it on a few prisoners. If its totally legal everyone captured by the US could recieve "harsh interrogations" including waterboarding to extract information.
The US police officers could use it to extract information from criminals aswell as its not torture or against anyones human rights.
Waterboarding is torture, Torture is illegal, Bush is a criminal :)
TheBritishWatcher 4 years ago
I really don't see what the problem is. If it gets us the information we need I hope we keep on using this technique. We are fighting this war with our hands tied behind our back. We are destroying ourselves from within. This country is full of pansies.
smith22ndmeu 4 years ago
You'll see the problem quickly when and if you are shipped out to Iran or Venezuela and become a POW... They do to us what we do to them - GET IT? Your callous disregard for basic human rights speaks volumes about our "pansy nation"...
Spookysr 4 years ago
I read ur response to me and i was digusted with what u said, yet in reply to smith you said the right thing. If you are against torture how can u be so rude to insult John Mccain who was captured and tortured while serving his country...
Makes no sense
TheBritishWatcher 4 years ago
I am NOT against JM... I just don't elevate him to a "great" choice as POTUS. Me comparing him to Dubya' was unfortunate. You're right I should have pick a better negative example than him but I couldn't think of one while I was typing...
Spookysr 4 years ago
I have written a dozen letters to Bill Richardson about plans for national health care. All were ignored. The insurance company elite continue to drag money from employers for work comp and refuse to pay the medical bills of forgotten injured health care and 911 rescue workers. Seems like Bill Richardson is another member of the elite. Adventist Health System. God Bless America.
BarbClarkTheMovie 4 years ago
Dude, your flag is backawards. When displaying the flag against a wall, vertically or horizontally, the flag's union (stars) should be at the top, to the flag's own right, and to the observer's left. The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general.
YKMav8r 4 years ago
shut up
vice13owns 4 years ago
Yeah YKMay8r I guess that's why Gen. Patton used the flag as drapery decoration too (tinyurl DOT com/yoysf8) on June 5th, 1944 during his speech to the 3rd Army on the eve of D-Day.
Spookysr 4 years ago
Good question.
csoki631 4 years ago
this was a great question and McCains answer was perfect. John is clearly the most qualified to win the war in Iraq and his positions on torture has made him very popular abroad. He would be a great choice for president.
TheBritishWatcher 4 years ago
Win what war in Iraq? Congress never declared war on any country only the Taliban in Afghanistan. The rest was some crap about WMDs which NEVER panned out. There's nothing to win - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED time to come home! McCain is great because he got caught and sat out the rest of the VN war? That's like saying Dubya's VN war record was great.
Spookysr 4 years ago
Nice. Way to slam a war hero with your ignorant statement. Read a book or two. The LAST thing Senator McCain was doing was "Sitting out" the war. You crazies can think he's a war hawk if you want. You can think he's a NAFTA goone if you're really crazy. But this is something out of bounds. Your statement is so far outside the grasp of reality that I fear for the genepool.
jonzie25 4 years ago
well said, that guys comment was disgusting.
TheBritishWatcher 4 years ago
Jonzie25 - Uhhh "sitting out the war" doesn't mean what you think it means. Just just means that he was taken out of circulation by the VC and was not returned to service until it was all over. How did he get into that awful situation? Good leadership qualities? Obeying orders? Good judgment? Equipment failure? IMWTK (Inq minds want 2 know). I really don't know do you??? You should if he's yer' hero...
Spookysr 4 years ago
Jonzie25 - OK I took the time to Google John McCain's war record & torture. Please 'splain this to me: On 27Oct1967 4d after being shot down, he called for VC guard: "OK, I'll give you mil-info if you will take me to hosp." -U.S. News and World Report, 14May1973
This is news to me!
Spookysr 4 years ago
I agree with Jonzie ur comment on what happened during VN was pretty sick. How you can compare someone that served and was captured by the enemy with someone whos daddy helped get him out of military service i dont know.
McCain is great because long before Rumsfeld left the Pentagon, McCain was calling for his resignation saying the current war plan was a disaster. He is great because no matter how unpopular it makes him with the disgusting right wing Americans he speaks out against torture
TheBritishWatcher 4 years ago
I wasn't besmirching McCain's war record. My point was that VNW doesn't make him a "great" choice for leader of a world super-power. Whatever else his qualities are beyond his military prowess is par with everyone else running. He's only a fallible human being who happens to be a Conservative-Republican! I don't favor ANYONE of them as our future leader...
I view both of your responses to me as purely subjectively partisan rather than intellectually objective... now that is disgusting.
Spookysr 4 years ago
Honestly, I don't mind being criticized, but after your stupid, thoughtless and rediculous statement, I really don't care about what you think. Get a grip.
jonzie25 4 years ago
Jonzie - Did you actually read my last response? "'Splain to me Lucy*" how it was "thoughtless, stupid, and R-E-D-iculous"? Oh I guess I should have considered your young age... my bad...
*Rickie Ricardo from The I Love Lucy Show
Spookysr 4 years ago
Waterboarding is torture. I thought I served a country that did not allow torture, but I guess my 20 years in the military was wasted! I now find our government is on the same par as Nazi Germany!
metteann 4 years ago
This is a retarded vid!
Beermann01 4 years ago
The stars in the Flag are always supposed to be in the top left whether vertical or horizontal, so you are displaying it incorrectly. I just thought it was funny when i was watching the debate 2 hours ago and saw the flag in you video displayed wrong.
apothecary0 4 years ago
Its not necessarily wrong, i.e. when on a horizontal flagpole
bxblox 4 years ago
Well come on, use some common sense ;) his audience, via the camera, will be looking at him with the stars on his left, when it should be his right (and left). But congrats, the video maker just made himself look like an idiot on national TV. Maybe twice, I don't know if his other vid made it to the debate. Just pointing out this fact, I'm not saying he is an idiot... but obviously doesn't know the basics of flags
mjmr89 4 years ago
i understand its not the proper placement but theres many possibilities why its on that way. Maybe its a very long flag on a short wall so vertical placement it the only alternative and since its not a more expensive flag (stitched evenly on both sides) if its not placed that way it would either by fully upside down (i.e. stars on bottom left) or showing the back with bad stitching (albeit correct placement). meh, i thought i looked akward on tv too
bxblox 4 years ago
Inexpensive flags are also extremely faded and washed out on the "back" side, it would give that inside out denim effect..
bxblox 4 years ago
great question/I didn't get an answer!
Randesue 4 years ago
We need to end the whole illegal war. Ron Paul!
RCherryman 4 years ago
Here Cherryman, You need to watch this. Maybe you will change your mind
RUOblivious 4 years ago
Do a search on YouTube for Libel Tourist and watch it.
RUOblivious 4 years ago
Cherryman, read near the bottom on Jihadwatch"dot"org where it says "War Is Deceit.....". You may find it interesting.
RUOblivious 4 years ago
Republicans are hypocrytes and warmongers and will lose the election if they don't return to their core values!
ethiobro 4 years ago
It would actually be nice to hear a true response to the questions being asked... is it a requirement to be a "sidestepper" to be a Republican candidate?????
bradfordc2002 4 years ago
The real torture is watching these hippo critical candidates say they believe in the Bible then promote killing, torture & war. War only begets War. You just make more terrorists out of the children & relatives of the Iraqis you are killing & maiming. There are no winners in war!
bryantree 4 years ago
Read the Bible and you will see even God "Commanded" war.
RUOblivious 4 years ago
Totally not true... God does not require physical war from Christians today only from the ancient Israelites for very good but esoteric reasons. No room here in Youtube to explain...
BRYANTREE - the word is "hypocritical" not hippo critical. B
Spookysr 4 years ago
BRYANTREE - But I agree with your sentiment.
Spookysr 4 years ago
the flag is being displayed incorrectly
amerdad261 4 years ago
good question... I believe your flag is placed incorrectly.
kris1490 4 years ago
McCain...take the high morale ground?...but being responsible for the deaths of how many 100,000's in Iraq
JoeyPencils 4 years ago
I'm for all kinds of water sports.
VampiricPony 4 years ago 5
woooo! go andy.
deavonnie 4 years ago