@lugiachan Consider the even values of n, so n = 2,4,6 etc Can you see why cos (n pi) = 1? Consider the odd value of n, so n = 1,3,5 etc. Can you see why cos (n pi) = -1. Put these cases together and the result follows.
@lugiachan Don't worry about it. You are not too silly. BTW, I have a real fondness of Hong Kong. I spent some months at HKU and CityU as a mathematician in 2006 and 2009.
@ELT626SSN Some texts prefer to have a_0/2 in the Fourier series (rather than just "a_0"). In that case there is no "2" in the (integral) definition of a_0.
Wow this is brilliant. Thanks a lot sir! Couldnt understand heads or tails of this at my lecture but thanks to you its crystal clear now. Off to try out some problems now! :-)
@afg987654321 At UNSW we do not use these kinds of calculators, rather we use programs like Maple, Matlab and Mathematica. So I can't answer your question - sorry.
@Jdonovanford If you download the associated PDF for this lesson (UnderstandMath.tv), then you'll see a generous hint in the answers to the practice question. .
hi im new to this integration stuff, i got a problem with the Bn part, when the integration is done on the 3 line of the bn coefficient you have no t squared left when you move the N outside the brackets. why ?
@commelions Why would a $t^2$ appear? We are not integrating $t$, we are integrating
$\cos nt$. If you're new to integration then Fourier series are quite a challenge. They usually appear in a third university course in calculus, whereas integration of something like $\cos nt$ appears in a first course in calculus.
@DrChrisTisdell In this answer, why does a0 go to a half, even though it is odd. I got the wrong solution and I can't see why, is there a worked answer?
@lminors There isn't a worked solution because the aim is for *you* to think hard about the question and to keep going! The function isn't odd BTW. Good luck!
@lminors Correct - the function isn't even (I didn't claim that it was). Think of shifting the curve down 1/2 a unit to produce an odd function and calculate the FS for that. Then simply add 1/2 to your answer. Over and out.
@DrChrisTisdell genius. thanks, i would never have thought to shift the graph down by 1/2 to make it an odd function. i hate missing things like that in maths! but thank you so much pal.
Hello! I have a question. Does all cosine and sine functions of period 2pi are orthogonal to each other, even if we take L as 2L? or in other words take frequency 0.5?
@csGolddragon No, what I've said is correct. If h(x) = f(x)g(x) with f odd and g even then h is odd (ie, h(x) = -h(-x) for all x). You can prove this (or just confirm it with on wikipedia).
hmmmm am i being stupid or is the equation that starts at 8:29 wrong.... should it not be + 1???? sub in pi and 0 u get (-cosnpi - 1 ) take out factor -1 it turns to cosnpi +1??? no?? probably me being a douche i dunno......
odd multiplied by even thing is a bit confusin..... but i c sed the blind man, it eventually clicked, i drew the graphs to c that odd times even stayed odd. ha ha ha. Nice lesson man you can actually teach! A rare talent in universities or at least mine.
Alright alright I have an exam in an hour and a half and I must this really helped a lot but I'm still confused with that thing you did at the end with the cos... how did you turn that into (-1)^n ? will it always be like that ? is there a different transformation for sin ? please help
@NevermindVzla Yes, it will always be like that (can you see why?). There is also one for sin, but I'll leave it to you to determine it. Good luck with your exam!
Thanks , you have a very elegant way of explaining it. Thanks so much for uploading this. People like you make the internet a toy of the gods and worthwhile.
I have a question! If we take a harmonic wave added to another harmonic wave, and then want's to calculate with them. Lets say that we have f(x)=3sin(3*pi*x)+4sin(4*pi*x), this will result in f(x)={6,8381 0<x<1, and -6,8381 -1<x<0 f(x)=f(x+2) .. Now my question is, do i just do the same as you did? Just follow the steps and then just calculate with reel numbers, instead of whole numbers? Or do i have to make any changes?
@SantaMain My problem is that, You have worked with square waves right? and this one is a sine wave.. which makes in more,. non square :D And then i just wonder if it's the same.
what happens if there is two odd functions in the integral? good video aswell by the way, my lecturer's been explaining it for 12 weeks and i only understand now after your 13 minute video.
Amazing Explanation Dr. Tisdell . I would like to know if you have a video explaining Complex Fourier Series. Please guide me if you have lecture notes or explanations on complex Fourier series.
@golnar Yes, if you want to "simplify" the sum. It would also be OK to leave it without changing to 2k-1 (or 2k if you are summing over the even terms). It depends on your preference.
OMG, omg, omg. I must say marveoulus! I don't have anything to do with math anymore since i'm done with uni. But that explanation of odd and even is brilliant. I was trying to figure out f.s. for a while, but then I decided I just won't learn them. Now I see it's pretty logical.
Keep up a good work. It might save a lot of nerves for some people.
This video is the only reason I got any of my homework done. Thank you so much!
arienette820 2 weeks ago
Thank you for this great, and easy to understand lesson. It is much appreciated.
texxmexxtexx 4 weeks ago
The way u teach is easy to understand and ur voice nice to listen! Thanks from Kazakhstan! Keep it up!
abekmuratov 4 weeks ago
Thanks alot for these videos. I had a class last semester that dealt with fourier series but I never really understood the point of them until today.
MacacoPulando 1 month ago
You make a great online math tutorial. One of the best I have seen. Thank You! Keep the PDE stuff coming!
nvrfollowb5 1 month ago
Hi there, are the documents you used in the video available anywhere to download?
shinakuma9 1 month ago in playlist Fourier series
@shinakuma9 Please read the annotation at the start of the video for directions.
DrChrisTisdell 1 month ago
i want to know how do you simplify cos (n pi) to (-1)^n ?
many thanks indeed!
lugiachan 2 months ago
and.. why 2k-1? where does it come from? thanks!
lugiachan 2 months ago
@lugiachan Because n = 2k-1 is always an odd number (whenever k is an integer) and we are only interested in summing over the odd values of n.
DrChrisTisdell 2 months ago
@lugiachan Consider the even values of n, so n = 2,4,6 etc Can you see why cos (n pi) = 1? Consider the odd value of n, so n = 1,3,5 etc. Can you see why cos (n pi) = -1. Put these cases together and the result follows.
DrChrisTisdell 2 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell
thank you! i just reckon that im too silly to ask these !
lugiachan 2 months ago
@lugiachan Don't worry about it. You are not too silly. BTW, I have a real fondness of Hong Kong. I spent some months at HKU and CityU as a mathematician in 2006 and 2009.
DrChrisTisdell 2 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell How did the 2/pi become 2/(n*pi)? You just integrated the sin (nt), did you?
Thank you
Rmpf22 2 months ago
@Rmpf22 Yes, :08:16 "integrate with respect to t".
DrChrisTisdell 2 months ago
when should Ao be divided by 2 in the fourier series equation?
as presented in this video the equation given the first coefficient is just Ao while my text book has Ao/2
ELT626SSN 2 months ago
@ELT626SSN Some texts prefer to have a_0/2 in the Fourier series (rather than just "a_0"). In that case there is no "2" in the (integral) definition of a_0.
DrChrisTisdell 2 months ago
Why use Maple when you can use our old friend MATLAB :) Just kidding :D
airman665544 2 months ago
I know people don't say this a lot on education videos, but I think I am going to have to break the replay button for this one...
PenguinRecordings 2 months ago
Wow this is brilliant. Thanks a lot sir! Couldnt understand heads or tails of this at my lecture but thanks to you its crystal clear now. Off to try out some problems now! :-)
19hashan93 3 months ago
@TheMunkification he needed to multiply by n/n to get the 'n' in there so he could integrate. He then pulled out the 1/n and integrated
ThePerfectElite 3 months ago
Where did the "n" and the -2 in -2/(n*PI) come from at 08:24 ?
TheMunkification 3 months ago
yo dawg yo videos so dope i gone go git me some motherfucking A's bitch
barryj106 3 months ago 14
thank you sir ...i study in 1 years master Electrical Engineering, and i hope that ..benefit from your extensive experience bilal
biloocabba2 4 months ago
thank you sur but ... do you dimenstaration ...how we foawd B0,An,Bn relation
biloocabba2 4 months ago
@biloocabba2 You can see all the details here /watch?v=KeT6CB6Qi10
DrChrisTisdell 4 months ago
Thanks so much for your explications it so helpful and kind of easy to understand ^^
himerobine 4 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell How do you calculate these integrals on a TI Calculator? I have a TI 83
afg987654321 4 months ago
@afg987654321 At UNSW we do not use these kinds of calculators, rather we use programs like Maple, Matlab and Mathematica. So I can't answer your question - sorry.
DrChrisTisdell 4 months ago
This is really helpful... you explain it really well.... thanks!!!!
Bairdyboy1980 4 months ago
i love you dr chris...you illuminated my world of fourier series....i was blind now i can see
mostafa8998 4 months ago 9
amazing thank u so much
hbz241 4 months ago
this is dank
Damianbambambosiacki 5 months ago
Awesome video, thanks alot
olifannar 5 months ago
Thanks a lot, very useful video for a frenchie who wanted to work for the holidays :)
Sasotzu 6 months ago
Regarding the answer to the practice question at the end, the function seems to be neither odd nor even.
Also the final answer has all three components a0, a1 and b1.
Someone correct me if it is not the case.
Dosalt 6 months ago
@Dosalt Please see my earlier comment about this.
DrChrisTisdell 6 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell Sorry, we can't find the earlier comment. Could you just answer the question?
Jdonovanford 6 months ago
@Jdonovanford If you download the associated PDF for this lesson (UnderstandMath.tv), then you'll see a generous hint in the answers to the practice question. .
DrChrisTisdell 6 months ago
Regarding the answer to the practice question at the end, the function seems to be neither odd nor even.
Also the final answer has all three components a0, a1 and b1.
Dosalt 6 months ago
what was the answer to the question set at the end?
KwasiYe 7 months ago
@KwasiYe Please see my earlier comment about this. Best wishes.
DrChrisTisdell 7 months ago
ok i see it now !! sin (nt) = -1/n cos (nt), sorry i guess i was over thinking there !. thanks for the help.
commelions 8 months ago
hi im new to this integration stuff, i got a problem with the Bn part, when the integration is done on the 3 line of the bn coefficient you have no t squared left when you move the N outside the brackets. why ?
commelions 8 months ago
@commelions Why would a $t^2$ appear? We are not integrating $t$, we are integrating
$\cos nt$. If you're new to integration then Fourier series are quite a challenge. They usually appear in a third university course in calculus, whereas integration of something like $\cos nt$ appears in a first course in calculus.
DrChrisTisdell 8 months ago
definitely helps my cramming for the coming unsw math exam :p
Wilsonnyo2 8 months ago
@Wilsonnyo2 and thank you very much! :D
Wilsonnyo2 8 months ago
These are really good explanations of Fourier Series but I am so fed up of watching the same advert again and again and again.
SarahStarmer 9 months ago in playlist Mathematics
thank you so much for this!
cantabriver 9 months ago
What's the solution to the problem given at the end?
lminors 9 months ago
@lminors Please follow the Annotation at the start - download the PDF from UnderstandMath.tv to find out!
DrChrisTisdell 9 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell In this answer, why does a0 go to a half, even though it is odd. I got the wrong solution and I can't see why, is there a worked answer?
lminors 9 months ago
@lminors There isn't a worked solution because the aim is for *you* to think hard about the question and to keep going! The function isn't odd BTW. Good luck!
DrChrisTisdell 9 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell There is no way the function is even.
lminors 9 months ago
@lminors Correct - the function isn't even (I didn't claim that it was). Think of shifting the curve down 1/2 a unit to produce an odd function and calculate the FS for that. Then simply add 1/2 to your answer. Over and out.
DrChrisTisdell 9 months ago
@DrChrisTisdell genius. thanks, i would never have thought to shift the graph down by 1/2 to make it an odd function. i hate missing things like that in maths! but thank you so much pal.
KwasiYe 7 months ago
Thank you for this example with explanation.
patarthenry 9 months ago
Hello! I have a question. Does all cosine and sine functions of period 2pi are orthogonal to each other, even if we take L as 2L? or in other words take frequency 0.5?
rkjab 9 months ago
You are amazing. I was about to give up on this if it had not been for this fantastic video. Thank you.
Haroson 9 months ago
i wish i went to UNSW instead of UWA.
kashmoney2011 9 months ago
thank you!! m so happy that i finally understand this :D
deathidoo 9 months ago
i hv a problem that why odd*even=0
and odd*odd=even and why then you can double the integration and get result?
also, for even function, (even function)*cos is even, thus can i say that
when the product of 2 function is even that i can double the integration and get result?
mchei 9 months ago
@mchei
let me reply myself....
i found that :
The product of two even functions is an even function.
The product of two odd functions is an even function.
The product of an even function and an odd function is an odd function.
and
The integral of an odd function from −A to +A is zero
The integral of an even function from −A to +A is twice the integral from 0 to +A
mchei 9 months ago
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mchei 9 months ago
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEExcellent!!!!!!!!!!!
mchei 9 months ago
I think I know why this is, but if you were to move all of the function to the right by pi/2, would it not become an even function?
fcdog555 10 months ago
@fcdog555 Indeed, my friend. :D
DrChrisTisdell 10 months ago
wow, really good video!!! thank you
mosawimmz 10 months ago
Thanks for this video, man! I have a project on Fourier series and you clarified this confusing mathematical concept for me.
FallofDarkness55 11 months ago
why we can replace n by 2k-1 ??????sorry i just don't understand :).
kazifhei 11 months ago
why we can replace n by 2k-1 ??????sorry i just don't understand :)..
kazifhei 11 months ago
@kazifhei See my comment answering this question below.
DrChrisTisdell 11 months ago
@kazifhei because n is odd brah
lorenz0laplace 10 months ago
this helped me finally understand it, many thanks!
viktorgoa 11 months ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't an odd function * an even function = an even function?
In that case, the cos parts of the fourier series do not = 0!!
csGolddragon 11 months ago
Otherwise great vid!
csGolddragon 11 months ago
@csGolddragon No, what I've said is correct. If h(x) = f(x)g(x) with f odd and g even then h is odd (ie, h(x) = -h(-x) for all x). You can prove this (or just confirm it with on wikipedia).
DrChrisTisdell 11 months ago
hmmmm am i being stupid or is the equation that starts at 8:29 wrong.... should it not be + 1???? sub in pi and 0 u get (-cosnpi - 1 ) take out factor -1 it turns to cosnpi +1??? no?? probably me being a douche i dunno......
SHITONASTICK1100 1 year ago
odd multiplied by even thing is a bit confusin..... but i c sed the blind man, it eventually clicked, i drew the graphs to c that odd times even stayed odd. ha ha ha. Nice lesson man you can actually teach! A rare talent in universities or at least mine.
SHITONASTICK1100 1 year ago
Alright alright I have an exam in an hour and a half and I must this really helped a lot but I'm still confused with that thing you did at the end with the cos... how did you turn that into (-1)^n ? will it always be like that ? is there a different transformation for sin ? please help
NevermindVzla 1 year ago
@NevermindVzla Yes, it will always be like that (can you see why?). There is also one for sin, but I'll leave it to you to determine it. Good luck with your exam!
DrChrisTisdell 1 year ago
@DrChrisTisdell I figured it out, thanks !
My exam was postponed for today, any last minute advices Dr ?
NevermindVzla 1 year ago
Thanks for video and it is very very life saving..
My question is could you please tell that how did you draw the graphs.
I need to learn it very soon. Thanks for your helping..
nukerl 1 year ago
Thanks , you have a very elegant way of explaining it. Thanks so much for uploading this. People like you make the internet a toy of the gods and worthwhile.
Thanks again so much.
adastra123 1 year ago
I have a question! If we take a harmonic wave added to another harmonic wave, and then want's to calculate with them. Lets say that we have f(x)=3sin(3*pi*x)+4sin(4*pi*x), this will result in f(x)={6,8381 0<x<1, and -6,8381 -1<x<0 f(x)=f(x+2) .. Now my question is, do i just do the same as you did? Just follow the steps and then just calculate with reel numbers, instead of whole numbers? Or do i have to make any changes?
SantaMain 1 year ago
@SantaMain My problem is that, You have worked with square waves right? and this one is a sine wave.. which makes in more,. non square :D And then i just wonder if it's the same.
Thanks :D
SantaMain 1 year ago
Thanks!
Cytozone 1 year ago
what happens if there is two odd functions in the integral? good video aswell by the way, my lecturer's been explaining it for 12 weeks and i only understand now after your 13 minute video.
jprigby91 1 year ago
awesome.. where can i find more?
higgo86 1 year ago
Great vid, really big help!
Is 10:18 supposed to be sin( n pi t )?
1989AndyL 1 year ago
Amazing Explanation Dr. Tisdell . I would like to know if you have a video explaining Complex Fourier Series. Please guide me if you have lecture notes or explanations on complex Fourier series.
shyamnarain 1 year ago
You, my good sir, are amazing. Your effort is much appreciated. Knowledge is power!
DrDread 1 year ago
this is more rocks and understandable than the chinese guy who speaks 550 syllable per seconds.
ronalddlelariarte 1 year ago
how do you know f(t) is odd?
maizul85 1 year ago
@maizul85 3:53
DrChrisTisdell 1 year ago
Thank you!
golnar 1 year ago
So we basically have to always substitue something for 'n' at the end, and it has to match the type 'values we're summing' ?
golnar 1 year ago
@golnar Yes, if you want to "simplify" the sum. It would also be OK to leave it without changing to 2k-1 (or 2k if you are summing over the even terms). It depends on your preference.
DrChrisTisdell 1 year ago
Where did the 2k-1 come from, at the end?
golnar 1 year ago
@golnar 2k-1 will always be an odd number and it appears as we are only summing over the odd values. Hope this helps.
DrChrisTisdell 1 year ago
OMG, omg, omg. I must say marveoulus! I don't have anything to do with math anymore since i'm done with uni. But that explanation of odd and even is brilliant. I was trying to figure out f.s. for a while, but then I decided I just won't learn them. Now I see it's pretty logical.
Keep up a good work. It might save a lot of nerves for some people.
aandreya 1 year ago
@aandreya Many thanks for your comments!
DrChrisTisdell 1 year ago