This is why StarCraft 1 wins and its better than StarCraft 2. Don't get me wrong both games are awesome but totally different. And I don't get thrills from watching SC2 while I get a boner while watching SC1 :D
@Ur0pinionDoesntCount Nope. They're supposed to be used a lot differently and it was also a A+ marine micro against them, so that's why it seems at first that lurkers are shit unit.
@dAziks Lurkers are shit because you CANNOT micro them. They have slow fire rate, marines can dance around them, they are extremely expensive and long build time. Very vulnerable to mines since they cannot A-Move. Tanks out range them both in siege and unsiege modes. Mech rapes lurkers in generals, same with irradiate. 50 minerals marines and some meds can rape them (75-25+50-100) with proper micro ofc. So yes, for noobs, lurkers are great. But if you have an enemy tht can micro, their shit
lurkers, whose attacks can be dodged, become quite useless in the proleaguesln imo... not like siege tanks who will hit their target with a 100 percent chance...
@yamum0433 Actually no... in Sc1 marines get raped by zealots and zerlings. Marines need medics and firebats to deal with lings or zealots, while lings need hydralisks or zealots need goons to deal with marine/medic/firebat. A good micro with 3 goons rape 8 marines.
@TheTachy0n hed have like around 450 during that time to micro that godly like. the highest apm ever was julyzerg, (apm spam or not) at 818. record, so dont tell ne1 about some 880 apm
that replay from the link was horrible. halfway through the game the zerg stopped playing and ended with the zerg quiting and nothing happening past this point in the video. they both had like 10k+ minerals
@AndyHarvardTran Truly, with an allied assault these heroes stood up to meet the call of duty on the frontline in this tale of modern warfare, undeterred by the underground black ops of the zerg.
right...becuz not avoiding the attacks and letting your units die is alot smarter. even zerg micro and avoid attacks. like mutas, they micro in and out.
my version of starcraft is pirated...but my neighbor has the real thing. If you ever see me on my name will be brainwasher5. And of course it'd be fun. Just hydralisks? Don't make me laugh.
NOOB!! You really believe 2 control groups of hydras cannot take out 12 marines and 5-6 medics? Wow... Looks like you're the one who has never played Starcraft. 6-7 hydras focus fire 1 marine = instant death. You have Starcraft dyslexia. Go play a new game, noob.
It really depends on what level carapace/missile the hydras have. I've had someone use 8 hydras at 2 carapace take out my group of 10 marine 4 medics.
I remember in Nada's early pro times his micro of marines was so bad. he would easily lose a dozen marines to 3 lurkers. so as excellent as his understanding of tanks, in tournaments he would be taken out be any zerg player.
Then he somehow got rid of his obssession with mass tank and started working on his rines. Very good stuff.
that's why you bait the marines with zerglings while your lurks go in for the surround. even if youre God (I know Nada is pretty close) you can't micro infantry out of lurker strikes in a pincer situation.
Well first off his timing was wrong. He sent the lings in first then tried to follow-up with his lurks. Second he never went for a surround. When the lings and lurks go in together he won't be able to retreat his infantry like that and can therefore burrow some lurkers in front and behind (or at worst to the side) of the infantry force...
The point is that infantry force shouldn't of made it past 7 lurks... he just got outmicroed and outsmarted...
Werd, I'm with Sygilber. Anybody could dodge Lurkers if you just move them in and burrow. The Rines don't even need to be stimmed to dodge them if you're only going to burrow them like he did.
But then again, Nada did a really nice job with the Meds block ~0:50
i kinda agree, when you look at the video you can see how fast those lurkers went down. That last lurker, Nada had 3 marines, the lurker only had time to shoot once before it was killed.
In all fairness, NaDa executed that beautifully. However, that zerg really didn't micro at all... I don't know who that was he was playing, but NaDa made him look like he'd just bought the game that day.
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This it the one mistake that zerg makes, suiciding lurkers to MAYBE get one attack on the terran marine ball. That is what lings are for. Now, I understand that zerg was under pressure to defend his expo, but knowing that this was a game against nada, he shoulda brought two control groups of lings to finish that mnm off. You can never be too careful, especially against Terran, who is way imba in my opinion.
Excellent micro, although, if they zerg player had actually tried to micro his lurkers, it maybe have been a little different, but eh, who knows, great video, nice micro :)
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I don't think that this is particularly excellent MICRO, considering that all pros and many good amateurs can do that. microing mm versus lurker lings that are making a push is not too difficult, assuming you have good timing and feel + space. zerg should be at a serious disadvantage in such a play.
don't get me wrong. Nada is cool. I just think his setup for this was more decisive than his micro.
Chuck norris and Team
joangyt 4 days ago
This is why StarCraft 1 wins and its better than StarCraft 2. Don't get me wrong both games are awesome but totally different. And I don't get thrills from watching SC2 while I get a boner while watching SC1 :D
gokusupersaiyan6 2 weeks ago
Seems like lurkers are garbage
Ur0pinionDoesntCount 4 weeks ago
@Ur0pinionDoesntCount Nope. They're supposed to be used a lot differently and it was also a A+ marine micro against them, so that's why it seems at first that lurkers are shit unit.
dAziks 2 weeks ago
@dAziks Lurkers are shit because you CANNOT micro them. They have slow fire rate, marines can dance around them, they are extremely expensive and long build time. Very vulnerable to mines since they cannot A-Move. Tanks out range them both in siege and unsiege modes. Mech rapes lurkers in generals, same with irradiate. 50 minerals marines and some meds can rape them (75-25+50-100) with proper micro ofc. So yes, for noobs, lurkers are great. But if you have an enemy tht can micro, their shit
Ur0pinionDoesntCount 2 weeks ago
we cannot forget what they did here
ssyw2700 4 months ago
Oh, NaDa, you magnificent bastard!
HalfstrungHammock 5 months ago
crappiest quality ever.
endre1989 7 months ago
@endre1989 Starcraft 1 >.<
rkid1296 7 months ago
@rkid1296 lol i know, but what if i'm gonna record sc1 gameplay at least on 480p?I mean, the video quality is a joke. =/
endre1989 7 months ago
@endre1989 fair point is fair
rkid1296 7 months ago
i would have lost all those rines in one go :D
xPloSiVgT 8 months ago
@JanJanNik
ever seen Jaedong play?
rapeorberaped 8 months ago
nadas a beast, but flash is still number 1!
nerdra1 8 months ago
lurkers sucking dick ! LOL
olegdangerous 8 months ago
TLO thors crushed nadas 1st mnm game lol, tats how sad sc2 is
vincentwongxt 9 months ago
Gosu
Jimbo5able 9 months ago
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MetaIhead89 9 months ago
the stim packs the marines were using were chuck norris's manjuice rofl :)
USERNAMEKLEMPTOR 9 months ago
sc2 is missing this
epik151 9 months ago 10
@epik151 i have never played sc1 so im kind aconfused what do u mean ?
94Stoka94 9 months ago
Wow, that was really impressive!
MistaMasta12 10 months ago
lurkers, whose attacks can be dodged, become quite useless in the proleaguesln imo... not like siege tanks who will hit their target with a 100 percent chance...
JanJanNik 10 months ago
@JanJanNik
please refrain from talking if you have no idea what youre talking about. watch some real pro games
Undeadtaro 10 months ago 2
cost-effective much?
BeanXPFoX 10 months ago
boxer wouldnt have lost any one of those marines
MrSqueakyBootz 10 months ago 4
S.T.A.R.S. Members.
Soriua 1 year ago
This is why you play IMPOSSIBLE Scenarios :p
JShawtyKim 1 year ago
marines...the most op units with good micro. FUCK TERRAN
yamum0433 1 year ago
@yamum0433 Actually no... in Sc1 marines get raped by zealots and zerlings. Marines need medics and firebats to deal with lings or zealots, while lings need hydralisks or zealots need goons to deal with marine/medic/firebat. A good micro with 3 goons rape 8 marines.
JuglarEuskaldun 11 months ago
@yamum0433 lol why do u hate terran? u are a human being urself arent u???? lol. Represent.
1212ofomyzrc 7 months ago
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@1212ofomyzrc lol nope. on the internet, no one knows he's a cat ;P
noJutsu1000 5 months ago
God of starcraft
Kalfastehpro 1 year ago
marines just plainly rock!
elchapetas 1 year ago
That... MICRO
TOO... INTENSE
(explodes)
Gaaraguy13 1 year ago 3
thats some crazy ass macromanagement.
caioenzo 1 year ago
@caioenzo are you a dumbass or genius?
teneight78 1 year ago
@teneight78 i realize now i was just stating the obvious.
but what else there is to say about this video?
;/
caioenzo 1 year ago
@caioenzo was referring to your comment "crazy ass macromanagement". it's actually MICROmanagement =)
teneight78 1 year ago
@caioenzo Micro :P not macro :)
Aldind2x 1 year ago
bio ball!!!
martygabe18 1 year ago
Nada has the highest apm of any sc1 player.
42mity 1 year ago
@42mity actually that was July... He had like 880 apm.
darrens888 1 year ago
@darrens888 he had a 880 apm peak during a game. Not average during an entire match.
TheTachy0n 1 year ago
@TheTachy0n lol he could just be spamming useless stuff. he wouldnt have that high apm in big battles.
darrens888 1 year ago
@TheTachy0n hed have like around 450 during that time to micro that godly like. the highest apm ever was julyzerg, (apm spam or not) at 818. record, so dont tell ne1 about some 880 apm
KTFlaSh96 1 year ago
i one solution for this use defilier and 10 zerglings and thats it
MegaUmaga 1 year ago
no lings made this possible
newxenic 1 year ago
sounds like underwater starcraft
chuuxorz 1 year ago 23
sound is terrible
Eireir1230 1 year ago
nice 'dic block
martygabe18 1 year ago
O YEA!
Teranex 1 year ago
I don't think they know who Nada is... lul.
Ammaculate44 1 year ago
#LOL
Davie557 1 year ago
lol, only so much lurkers can do
jungenbum 1 year ago
now thats good micro
MajinVegeto89 1 year ago
Marine micro is incredible
Armalizilto 1 year ago
it wasnt the m&ms that were good, it was that terrible lurker micro
XXWxwwxWXX 2 years ago
lurker micro was terrible
Zellieth 2 years ago
that replay from the link was horrible. halfway through the game the zerg stopped playing and ended with the zerg quiting and nothing happening past this point in the video. they both had like 10k+ minerals
kyle9003 2 years ago
that means the replay was corrupted
it was probably saved in a different version of sc and you have to downgrade to watch by launching with an old executable
j0eb0e 2 years ago 4
shoulda sent lings as meatshield/trap marines with the lurkers.. lurker burrow time is where nada picked them off
dont think a single lurker landed more than 1 hit
asswhupper 2 years ago
ahhh yeahh... now thats the stuff
MaxEm87 2 years ago 3
I hope those last Marines got a medal of honor ...
AndyHarvardTran 2 years ago 142
@AndyHarvardTran Truly, with an allied assault these heroes stood up to meet the call of duty on the frontline in this tale of modern warfare, undeterred by the underground black ops of the zerg.
TerrorBlack 10 months ago
@AndyHarvardTran What about the Medics?
danny9880 3 months ago
insane micro O.O
DSparamus 2 years ago
i'd be soo pissed if i was that zerg player
CtrlAltDaLEET 2 years ago
best micro but worst quality
r4j2iLL 2 years ago
Best. Micro. Ever.
Mahu0tsukai 2 years ago
zerg dude.... heh
Wow4ik4ik 2 years ago
nice vid, but it just isnt the same without those Korean commentators lol
konvictman 2 years ago 9
good micro dude gg
Skr0s 2 years ago
those marines musta been trippin balls after all those stims
rekrul 2 years ago 132
@rekrul dont forget all the chemicals the medics no doubt gave em :D
Skjoldvall 1 year ago
I watch this video sadly, I mean, i watch this video thinking about how does I micro marines compared to that guy ^^
bullorco 2 years ago
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This is why I hate terran. Bunch of pussies, running away.
orochimaruisugly 2 years ago
right...becuz not avoiding the attacks and letting your units die is alot smarter. even zerg micro and avoid attacks. like mutas, they micro in and out.
Zilong09 2 years ago
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I know. I just hate the fact how you have to burrow. .. then unburrow.. then burrow.. then unburrow... thenb urrow.. then unburrow
ARRRGH
orochimaruisugly 2 years ago
then don't use lurkers. Every unit has its weakness, nada was just exploiting the lurker's.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago 2
Don't use lurkers in zvt.
Right....
orochimaruisugly 2 years ago
Yes. They are called mutas and hydras.
If you want to use lurkers, then stop bitching about them and learn to cover their weaknesses.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago 6
Hydras vs M+M? LOL!
Mutas? Only good if you have iccup latency.
orochimaruisugly 2 years ago
then stop playing zerg. It's simple, in the end. If you don't like using it, don't use it.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago 2
hydra rape mnm without tank support, lol at ur stupidity.
joebmaster 2 years ago
.... you clearly dont play star
Firestonezz 2 years ago
lol wanna test this? We'll see who doesnt play starcraft.
joebmaster 2 years ago
hydra rape MnM?
did you mean with lurk support or not?
hydra/lurk can work but not pure hydra...
Firestonezz 2 years ago
yea i agree... hydra is free vs MM... unless they have lurkers....
ckranez 2 years ago
obviously you dont
JAFrk 2 years ago
you've probably never played starcraft in your life. 12 marines with 5 or 6 medics can take out 24 hydras and win.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
LOL whats bnet name seriously your kidding right?
joebmaster 2 years ago
nope.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
whats your bnet name, ill beat you with just hydra, it will be fun.
joebmaster 2 years ago
my version of starcraft is pirated...but my neighbor has the real thing. If you ever see me on my name will be brainwasher5. And of course it'd be fun. Just hydralisks? Don't make me laugh.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
server?
joebmaster 2 years ago
i'll tell you when I get there. what's your server and username?
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
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NOOB!! You really believe 2 control groups of hydras cannot take out 12 marines and 5-6 medics? Wow... Looks like you're the one who has never played Starcraft. 6-7 hydras focus fire 1 marine = instant death. You have Starcraft dyslexia. Go play a new game, noob.
aznfire5 2 years ago
no they dont -.- mnm rapes hydra (stimmed)
Maplebangeek 2 years ago
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no never, Focus fire about 6 on a single marine, instant death.
Nemesis0300 2 years ago
what r u talking about? r u saying mnm rapes hydra? cause thats what im saying
Maplebangeek 2 years ago
lol im saying if u micro hyrdas correctly you can take out a few marines
Nemesis0300 2 years ago
at the same time if u micro marines and medics u can take out the hydras
Maplebangeek 2 years ago 4
It really depends on what level carapace/missile the hydras have. I've had someone use 8 hydras at 2 carapace take out my group of 10 marine 4 medics.
anon4654 2 years ago
that's cause you suck. =D
raze667 2 years ago 3
I went c level last season, so yeah I suck a little :P. Either way, my opponent sucked too so my point stands.
anon4654 2 years ago
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Haha what an idiot, running away is being a pussy in SC? I'll play with you x_x
djzapz 2 years ago
Decent micro.
Unnoticed37 2 years ago
holy mother of shits!
Samura1gamer 2 years ago
WOW 5/5!
Frangb7 2 years ago
I remember in Nada's early pro times his micro of marines was so bad. he would easily lose a dozen marines to 3 lurkers. so as excellent as his understanding of tanks, in tournaments he would be taken out be any zerg player.
Then he somehow got rid of his obssession with mass tank and started working on his rines. Very good stuff.
xx765 2 years ago
ROFL when nada was in his prime
Beowulf117 2 years ago
OMFG :s
MashaBiseX 2 years ago
LOL OWNED. GG
pawtuketville 2 years ago
wow the zerg must have been like.. mother fucker!
ramseszerg 2 years ago
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the zerg lost when he let nada go up thee ramp, also would have better off if he microed less, haha, because it did it so horribly
briach 3 years ago
very nice micro
SR69MMJC 3 years ago
holy shit!
splo1208 3 years ago
wow NADA is so good
DLTKDWNSDTW 3 years ago 2
omg....
Ctrustbank 3 years ago
imbalanced
KoreanSeaBass 3 years ago
NO... if the zerg playing went for a lurker surround i garantee those rines would've been cut to shreds
sygilber 3 years ago 6
its kinda hard to surround the rines when there stimed since there alot faster and surrounding them leaves the lurkers vulnerble to attacks
sirporing 3 years ago
that's why you bait the marines with zerglings while your lurks go in for the surround. even if youre God (I know Nada is pretty close) you can't micro infantry out of lurker strikes in a pincer situation.
sygilber 3 years ago
he tried to bait the rines with lings, but it didn't work.
Ym1r 3 years ago
Well first off his timing was wrong. He sent the lings in first then tried to follow-up with his lurks. Second he never went for a surround. When the lings and lurks go in together he won't be able to retreat his infantry like that and can therefore burrow some lurkers in front and behind (or at worst to the side) of the infantry force...
The point is that infantry force shouldn't of made it past 7 lurks... he just got outmicroed and outsmarted...
sygilber 3 years ago
Werd, I'm with Sygilber. Anybody could dodge Lurkers if you just move them in and burrow. The Rines don't even need to be stimmed to dodge them if you're only going to burrow them like he did.
But then again, Nada did a really nice job with the Meds block ~0:50
Nominated 2 years ago
i kinda agree, when you look at the video you can see how fast those lurkers went down. That last lurker, Nada had 3 marines, the lurker only had time to shoot once before it was killed.
CHumga 3 years ago
NICEEE
ChemistryEscence 3 years ago 2
In all fairness, NaDa executed that beautifully. However, that zerg really didn't micro at all... I don't know who that was he was playing, but NaDa made him look like he'd just bought the game that day.
Yolastresort 3 years ago 4
its just en early stage of a tournament, thats why its just a replay and there are no commentators
newphew92 3 years ago
NADA u r a magician
Alexanderson1988 3 years ago 5
WOW PERFECTION!!!!
bethanyil05 3 years ago
i dont think its fair
dude guys like these dont give a chance to humble players to coexsist lol
every time i'll think i can be a progamer i'll remember nada only needs to build 8 marines a medic and a firebat
and its gg
omg he is a beast!!!!!!1
barbahaba 3 years ago
GG...
fungipower 3 years ago
haha some good shit
000001337 3 years ago
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marines and medics vs 7 lurkers not just marines man fucking noob
lordr110 3 years ago
nada is the best
BraCBraDPiTT93 3 years ago
all i can say, is DAMN!!! (i wish i could do that)
jinhk93 3 years ago
NaDa rocks
GG
Glumglufs 3 years ago
NADA = FUCKING BEAST
m4gdelen4 3 years ago 2
fucking awesome
fuckinthingsucks 3 years ago
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This it the one mistake that zerg makes, suiciding lurkers to MAYBE get one attack on the terran marine ball. That is what lings are for. Now, I understand that zerg was under pressure to defend his expo, but knowing that this was a game against nada, he shoulda brought two control groups of lings to finish that mnm off. You can never be too careful, especially against Terran, who is way imba in my opinion.
mk2389 3 years ago
all the races in Starcraft are balanced....
inkatha2000 3 years ago 7
Usually lurkers rape rhines
Glumglufs 3 years ago
lurkers alone NEVER rape rine unless they are stoped
stoneheart92 3 years ago
They will if they are well-microed
Glumglufs 3 years ago 2
beowulf
NADA is way better than u so stfu.
that was amazing
miner5888 3 years ago
actually it was 7 lurkers + 12 or 13 zerglings and 2 drones
TastedDuckling 3 years ago 5
rape pls?
miph07 3 years ago
lol. Fuck me sideways
Shidko 3 years ago 3
one word "Fuck!" lol very impressive
Slyjoker22 3 years ago
GG. who is the opponent?
meathook3000 3 years ago
i hope those last 5 units got a medal..
isaacdwalkup 3 years ago 14
holy shit,he's a beast,respect.
nei3metri 3 years ago
Excellent micro, although, if they zerg player had actually tried to micro his lurkers, it maybe have been a little different, but eh, who knows, great video, nice micro :)
Iwantsuperporn 3 years ago
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I don't think that this is particularly excellent MICRO, considering that all pros and many good amateurs can do that. microing mm versus lurker lings that are making a push is not too difficult, assuming you have good timing and feel + space. zerg should be at a serious disadvantage in such a play.
don't get me wrong. Nada is cool. I just think his setup for this was more decisive than his micro.
NoOne3234 3 years ago
your a noob
Beowulf117 3 years ago
its easy for you to say, but if you were in his position, u have to realize that it was improvised and in the moment. there was no time for analysis.
kennybenny 3 years ago 3
Pro
ISp1r1tI 3 years ago
masterpiece
Darkulla 3 years ago
Wow nada raped that guy hardcore.
thetaoizm 3 years ago
My hero!
OverLoving 3 years ago
sweet
1996913 3 years ago
Marines are bad ass.
JPH85 3 years ago
oh my god
I tried some m&m vs lurkerling micro map
and end up killing like 2 lurkers 6 lings
e4e5check 3 years ago
Nada marines indeed.
Leziii 3 years ago
if that's not pwnage god knows what is
Landroam12 3 years ago
this is real pro
ACEKING26 3 years ago
we call it "rape"~
kmfman621 4 years ago 2
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shouldnt this technically be called marines and medics VS lurkers?
DarkDain 4 years ago
He is right though, I don't think the marines would have made it as far as this video did without the medics.
With all the units that SC: BW introduced
the games lasted longer. NaDA exploited this fact, and successfully pulled of this tactic.
SpikeJonze 3 years ago
that's the ultimate rine against lurker mirco. cant believe he killed off the expansion and seven lurker with just one group of mm.
thecoffinilaidin 4 years ago
nice one
rl0u8888 4 years ago
Where did you get this replay?
visqueux7 4 years ago