help plz :(.... i'm using ubuntu 10.10 bt slow like hell aftr 4 days use.... plz suggest another best OS.... i need os for daily use not for games :)... plz help
@DKtheHuNk You might want to try "Zorin". It is a good Linux distribution that comes with a program called "Remastersys" that allows you to back up the entire operating system including your personal files just as it is. It will make an "iso" file for you to burn as an "iso" image to a DVD disc. Just make sure you use a burning software program that will allow you to burn it as an image to the disc. You don't want to simply write or save the the file to the DVD as data, or it won't work.
I think Mint Cinnamon is the way to go. Its what Mint 12 should have been like to begin with. I hope thats a taste of what there going with for mint 13.
@Linux4UnMe In GNOME mint, it doesn't make sense to have the shell and the classic menu at the same time. Other than the window switching feature, but that can be done in compiz. Im pretty new to Linux and been testing out distros for a week now and still haven't figure which is best for me. Bad timing getting into Linux with all these changes happening lol. Im thinking Mint 11 or Ubuntu 10.04/or 10.10 for the time being untill we see the new LTS. While I like Cinnamon, GNOME3 needs maturing,
yeah it is bad timing to get into linux at the moment... I know mint 13 will rock now that they got cinnamon matured more... forget what you see here... it has changed yet again slightly lol. Maybe a kde distro eh? i can say with all certainty that kde 4.8 is stable, no weirdness like before and is a hell of alot faster
@Linux4UnMe were talking installing on a macbook pro 3,1 (2007) I think i have settled on 10.04 for now. Im liking it. On my desktop, Im waiting for mint 13 but not sure how much il use it because its a gaming/ audio recording pc. Btw great vids man and il be watching the ones in the future
Is it me or is the menu always a little buggy and a little slow when viewing which applications to use and question I got a Acer aspire one netbook d255-2331 Linux beginner what Linux operating system is best for my netbook?
the menu was fine prior to mint 12... Netbook eh? i use to say ubuntu or mint.... but now i'm not so sure lol. bodhi linux would fly on it but it takes a little learning how to use e17. MacPuP is another zippy distro good for netbooks... or linux mint with lxde are some suggestions
Hi linux4unme I found a way to use Linux Mints fetures with out the mint install witch was WAY to glitchy for me i will do a video on it soon and post it as a video response
Linux is just the kernel don't forget ;) More like Ubuntu, Gnome and Mint have gone down hill.... but there are plenty more options out there and these other projects will improve ;)
@Linux4UnMe The main thing is...we dont need more distros, we need high quality open source softwares, if each one of those developers, who lost hours to customize a distro ...writed software ... the opensource comunity would be larger and more redspect.
Was running lisa for the last couple of weeks, from the RC through the release (clean installation once the 'stable' release arrived).
Honestly, I do not feel that it is deserving of its 'stable' label as yet.
I have no beef with the multiple menus etc, and was a pleasant environment in which to work. Unfortunately it was just a little bit too glitchy at this point. Only small issues that Im sure will be clobbered in time - but that time is not yet.
I love Linux , and always will . However I wish it wasn't so buggy, and had more high-end software / games. I just got a new computer , and haven't installed Linux on it yet.
I get strangely similar problems even with fglrx drivers installed. At times gnome will restart on its own, or the alt-tab dialog will get stuck and I'm unable to change focus to a new window, or I'm simply unable to focus or click on anything, some tittlebars disappear, and weird stuff like that.
@Linux4UnMe Wait....you got one guy that has many accounts that he uses to down vote your videos? Wow, 2 year old much? I would create many accounts to upvote you but unlike him I have a life. lol.
which problem? i have demonstrated a few issues.... the Mint gnome-shell extensions are definately buggy.... some other issues may be with nouveau which is default for nvidia users.... experience with mint 12 may vary between nvidia/ati users... but for the most part the Majority of people i speak to have quite a few of my issues with mint 12. Where as stock gnome 3.2 is much more stable.... eg on arch etc
lol hell no, i wouldn't go for LM12. Maybe something Like PcLinuxOs would be good for you since it is stable and well tested . Otherwise MInt 11 is good
the final release aint buggy on mine, it was buggy on the pre-final release :) just don't use the drivers Linux suggests, download the newer drivers from AMD if you are using ATI that is.
Mint's only real issues are the menu/software manager look boring, if they could add a software manager more like an App Store such as Ubuntu has then it would be alot better imo.
I did mention i didn't have so many problems on archlinux with gnome-shell. It is the buggy extensions mostly causing the problem... but the app preview bug on workspaces is present even on arch
I installed Linux Mint 12 and mine works absolutely fine only time i get trouble is when i plug in my monitor i do get a few bugs here and there but other than that no trouble at all. Good review hope Linux Mint 12 works out for you in future :)
I am running gnome 3.2 and Shell on arch and it is fantastic. I've really come to enjoy and appreciate Gnome-Shell and am looking forward to what its developement in the future.
I honestly cannot stand an abundance of redundancy in a desktop, and that is what linux mint looks like to me :-(
The way I see it, I am fully functional in Gnome-Shell, as well as gnome-classic, putting the two together does not translate to being double functional ;-) rather, just very messy, cluttered, and unelegant.
Thank god (Clem) for MATE. I am sticking with Mint 10 till MATE is fully ready. But then again, I do wonder what the advantage will be in upgrading.....
I have installed it and found several bugs already, double of icon applications, workspaces switching also, and for some reason sometimes desktop freezes... but it is looking good though.
Do you have a twitter? Also have you tried or can you review Fuduntu? Heard it knocks PCLinuxOS out place for the newb-friendly/"just works" distribution.
One of my machines runs lm-11 and it's just great, this video is very useful otherwise i would of switched to 12 already. i agree with all you said and thank you for this review i will hold back until Lm switches to kde or xfce. or what would be better is if mate takes off. when gnome 3 came out and i installed it i thought it was lacking. it;s still lacking. :P
@bkovacs7 lol the linux mint rendition of Gnome 3 is hardly representational of Gnome 3 as a whole. I have used it on Ubuntu, Fedora, and Arch and have found it to be stable and pleasant....this rendition is a little strange for my tastes. If I hadn't been using the working "how-it-is-meant-to-be" version of Gnome-Shell it would put a bad taste in my mouth as well, but I swear that the lm12 gnome 3 is accurate to stock gnome 3
So you have the option of a buggy gnome 3 desktop that is very unusable or a buggy copy of gnome 2 desktop. Sometimes I think it pays to stick to the stable releases like debian.
@bcbudful Gaaaaaaanz ruhig;) Naja KDE ist meiner Meinung nach Gnome auf jeden Fall überlegen, wenn man mal von der Geschwindigkeit absieht. Ich persönlich komme aber mit Gnome-Shell einfach nicht zurecht, da ändert auch mgse nichts dran. Aber trotzdem, lieber das als unity, du pappnase:)
I just can't use Gnome 3, and Mint 12 implementation of it makes no difference. Although it is visually pleasing at first, the many restrictions on customization render it unpractical. For the moment Mint 11 with Gnome 2.xx is a much better choice for me.
Keep up the good work, I always enjoy your videos.
@shobogatz Neither and I have used it extensively. It just doesn't make sense how it's layed out and how you have to constantly go from one side of the screen to the other. Mint 11 with Gnome 2 is the end of the road for me as far as Gnome based distros go. KDE however lives on.
Thought i would add a bug On my pc (nivda on board) it automaticly goes to gnome shell regular and wont let you do anything in the os itself and is probly going to go to good old ubuntu 11:10
Only recieved 1 video intro so far... and 1 more is coming... recieved a few other bits n bobs though like my new Banner which is AWESOMEEE. I may have to make my own video intro If I don't recieve one I like as much as my current one.... :D
Hey Kaddy, man this sucks. I don't have words to express how much this just SUCKS. Ubuntu 10.10 was the last great Ubuntu distro. Now Linux Mint 11 is the last great one for them. I DO NOT like Gnome 3.x or Unity. Only time will tell.
indeed it does... And I expected Mint to not release until it was stable enough... but looks like they have disappointed for the first time.... If i was Clem i'de take the iso's off the mirrors and hold off until it get's more bug fixes... This release is atrocious and may destroy Mint's credibility
I havent tried it yet but I will be instaling it using wubi because I need all the hard drive space I can get but no matter what happens I will not thumb down this video because it is your experiance on YOUR harddware, not in a vm running a windows pc like someone we both know THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT REVIEW!!!
One of my biggest gripes with MGSE is Gnome 3 seems slower with all those extensions, or less smooth. Gnome Shell, plain, has always seemed pretty peppy to me, but not so with MGSE. My guess is all the extra javascript stuff going on but I wouldn't really know.
Anyway, nice review. Looking forward to MATE improving.
Using Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME Shell and Nouveau on my desktop, and no problems here (other than a bug with windows eventually showing up on the wrong workspaces in Activities, but that was fixed a few weeks back).
Mint needs to get its act together, IMHO; they bit off more than they could chew with this release. Besides the bugs, Adwaita and parts of the Shell look out of place too themewise, which I wouldn't expect from Mint. Hopefully they can release a more finished desktop with Mint 13.
It does seem like a rushed release and will be a major blow for their reputation after so many great previous releases... Agree about the themeing. I think Mint are on the right track... But I would of held back this release If I was Clem... Mint 13 in 6 months time will ensure a more stable mature release I think but in the meantime... Many People are going to be disgruntled with Mint after Testing this latest release....
hi, great review (as usual). I must say I'm a bit disappointed too, expected less bugs. anyway mint12 are not the only ones added extensions by default, I saw a video review of the latest Pinguy OS 11.10 and IMO they did a much better job mixing gnome 3 and the old method.
BTW: would really appreciate a review of pinguy cause U always find the juicy interesting stuff
ah, I forgot about Pinguy... and havn't tried their Gnome 3 remix... I'm not a big fan of Distros based on distros based on distros... i've always made an exception with Mint hehehe. But yeah, you're right... I will have to take a look at the latest Pinguy to see what they cooked up
If you want a better MATE Desktop experience (yes there is another distro with MATE) then try out ZevenOS-Neptune MATE Edition which is unofficial but works pretty fine so far. zevenos[dot]com/neptune (scroll to the bottom to find the MATE version)
I've used the last RC of LinuxMint12 on a low end AMD system I recently built for my work to raffle off for charity, and I've not had those problems even with the Nvidia drivers installed, have had a few times it locked up, and had to reboot, and all was good, but will be installing full LinuxMint12 in the next few days on that machine when I have time, and will update my experience then.
@Pistenraupe91 UIIIIIIH PIstenraupe DU olle Pappnase, da ich meine meinung kund tat musst Du ja nicht gleich beleidigend werden oder !?
Also Pistenraupe, KDE und Gnome sind mir persoenlich einfach zu aufgeblasen und schraenken MEINE arebitsweise ein. Leider, hab damals mit Suse 6.7 oder so bis ungefaehr 9 oder so mit KDE alles gemacht.
Kde WAR mal mein traum. Das naechste mal Pappnase antworte freundlicher oder ich zieh dir mal deine hammelbeine lang ;) Greeting from Calgary, AB, Canada
About the new MInt, Pinguy and all these new releases, They are all a prime example why having a scheduled release date totally suck. I mean, are there any gnome shell distros out there now you can actually use? Why the hurry?
I know fedora is stable enough, but as I see it that's not a distro for everyday use.
I don't mean to complain of course, but it's sad that none of the new ubuntu based distros work properly.
I just want my old Gnome back. It was more customizable, the user had more options to change things. Gnome and KDE turn to much into apple/windows restrictions. Gnome 2 was for myself the best. I really don't like the way Gnome is going. It is getting way to hard to get it custom. Gnome 2 was much better not so cluttered with things that are not easy changeable . THAT bugs me the most. Take the power from the user is big MS and Apple BS!! Good bye Gnome and KDE YOU SUCK!!
I'm downloading 12 now dude! I'm more then likely going to disable ALL of mints extensions and just have pure gnome 3.2 so I might do a screen cast and leave it as a video response.
Watched that in 1080 full screen, vid quality was excellent and voice sync was only out a fraction towards the end.
Gotta say mate looks like the future of gnome3, I'd certainly not recommend gnome-shell to anyone.
I think a few minor bugs on mate is to be expected as the distro was only released a few hours ago. Wait a month and give the devs a chance to put right the minor teething issues.
I can see why Linux Mint is the worlds most popular Linux Distrobution. Thumbs up on a balanced review.
Unless you want to be able to mix up your DE, I don't really see an advantage of installing this over Mint 11. Seems like they're trying to recreate Mint 11 using a worse version of gnome. I know they've basically had no choice but I believe Mate will be the way to go with Mint 13 and beyond. Plus, having an additional bar taking up screen space is a pain. Good review man.
You could probably try to ditch ffmpeg in favor of libav, the ffmpeg fork. Ffmpeg was the cause of crashes in Kdenlive for me due to lacking AAC support (and probably having other incompatibilities), so I installed libav and those problems are now gone (only Pulseaudio and SDL problems stay). They obviously have crippled it lately. Using Archlinux.
By the way, Archlinux only provides libav through AUR, don't know about Linux Mint.
I'm so glad gnome2 was forked and that Mint has adopted it so early in the development. Buggy or not I still choose the mate desktop over gnome3/shell/unity crap.
So far I don't like Gnome 3. I stay to Gnome 2.3. I upgraded from 9 Isadora to Linux Mint 10 Julia 64bit. Gnome 3 had some problems, as I tested it on Fedora 16 (had 2 crashes). But Gnome 2.3 is very stable and more than ok!
Hmmn why are all your related videos chicks with their jugs half out? lol
Good in depth review though fella
techguruuk 1 week ago
@techguruuk
lol bahhhhhhhhh
Linux4UnMe 1 week ago
help plz :(.... i'm using ubuntu 10.10 bt slow like hell aftr 4 days use.... plz suggest another best OS.... i need os for daily use not for games :)... plz help
DKtheHuNk 1 month ago
@DKtheHuNk
windows xp!!! nar.... i dunno man... whatever you like....pclinuxos is good and stable, opensuse etc
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe bt which version of linux ? best for use :)..plz
DKtheHuNk 1 month ago
@DKtheHuNk You might want to try "Zorin". It is a good Linux distribution that comes with a program called "Remastersys" that allows you to back up the entire operating system including your personal files just as it is. It will make an "iso" file for you to burn as an "iso" image to a DVD disc. Just make sure you use a burning software program that will allow you to burn it as an image to the disc. You don't want to simply write or save the the file to the DVD as data, or it won't work.
bobbyknight1970 2 weeks ago
@bobbyknight1970 tnx fr ur reply :D bt nw i'm using window xp ftw :P later gonna buy intel i5 :) with my blog money's :P nirmalmaza. blogspot .in/
DKtheHuNk 1 week ago
@DKtheHuNk Linux mint :P or ubuntu 11.10. keep tweakin unitil its fast enough for ya :P
Xaahu 1 week ago
I think Mint Cinnamon is the way to go. Its what Mint 12 should have been like to begin with. I hope thats a taste of what there going with for mint 13.
dadio2002 1 month ago
@dadio2002
yep
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe In GNOME mint, it doesn't make sense to have the shell and the classic menu at the same time. Other than the window switching feature, but that can be done in compiz. Im pretty new to Linux and been testing out distros for a week now and still haven't figure which is best for me. Bad timing getting into Linux with all these changes happening lol. Im thinking Mint 11 or Ubuntu 10.04/or 10.10 for the time being untill we see the new LTS. While I like Cinnamon, GNOME3 needs maturing,
dadio2002 1 month ago
@dadio2002
yeah it is bad timing to get into linux at the moment... I know mint 13 will rock now that they got cinnamon matured more... forget what you see here... it has changed yet again slightly lol. Maybe a kde distro eh? i can say with all certainty that kde 4.8 is stable, no weirdness like before and is a hell of alot faster
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe were talking installing on a macbook pro 3,1 (2007) I think i have settled on 10.04 for now. Im liking it. On my desktop, Im waiting for mint 13 but not sure how much il use it because its a gaming/ audio recording pc. Btw great vids man and il be watching the ones in the future
dadio2002 1 month ago
Would you recommend this over windows xp on a netbook
Shayne2555 1 month ago
@Shayne2555
that would depend what you need/use your computer for.... so unless you give me an indepth explanation... I cannot recommend mint
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
Is it me or is the menu always a little buggy and a little slow when viewing which applications to use and question I got a Acer aspire one netbook d255-2331 Linux beginner what Linux operating system is best for my netbook?
pschamp723 1 month ago
@pschamp723
the menu was fine prior to mint 12... Netbook eh? i use to say ubuntu or mint.... but now i'm not so sure lol. bodhi linux would fly on it but it takes a little learning how to use e17. MacPuP is another zippy distro good for netbooks... or linux mint with lxde are some suggestions
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
prefer gnome2
oxtaiLS0uP 1 month ago
@oxtaiLS0uP
so do I
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
Hi linux4unme I found a way to use Linux Mints fetures with out the mint install witch was WAY to glitchy for me i will do a video on it soon and post it as a video response
willlisawsom 2 months ago
@willlisawsom
sure thing
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
sorry for nitpicking, but please practice pronouncing nouveau. nu-vo.
drushhhh 2 months ago
Kubuntu 11.10 now has the smallest footprint on your hard drive or soft drive.
telemetry9 2 months ago
Linux is going downhill :(
filippo333 2 months ago
@filippo333
Linux is just the kernel don't forget ;) More like Ubuntu, Gnome and Mint have gone down hill.... but there are plenty more options out there and these other projects will improve ;)
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
@Linux4UnMe The main thing is...we dont need more distros, we need high quality open source softwares, if each one of those developers, who lost hours to customize a distro ...writed software ... the opensource comunity would be larger and more redspect.
nixdcc 2 months ago
Was running lisa for the last couple of weeks, from the RC through the release (clean installation once the 'stable' release arrived).
Honestly, I do not feel that it is deserving of its 'stable' label as yet.
I have no beef with the multiple menus etc, and was a pleasant environment in which to work. Unfortunately it was just a little bit too glitchy at this point. Only small issues that Im sure will be clobbered in time - but that time is not yet.
PinguyOS is doing the job for me atm. Nice
CalinDee 2 months ago
@CalinDee
agreed. Yer Pinguy has nailed Gnome 3
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
I love Linux , and always will . However I wish it wasn't so buggy, and had more high-end software / games. I just got a new computer , and haven't installed Linux on it yet.
maw88ify 2 months ago
i hated the bottom panel so i got rid of it
TheAcidsython 2 months ago
@66THELAW
i tried both
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
I get graphical glitches on GNOME Shell in Ubuntu and it's based distros..
74ryanwolf 3 months ago
I get strangely similar problems even with fglrx drivers installed. At times gnome will restart on its own, or the alt-tab dialog will get stuck and I'm unable to change focus to a new window, or I'm simply unable to focus or click on anything, some tittlebars disappear, and weird stuff like that.
projectivemotion 3 months ago
i think ill just make mine a full gnome 3 environment
TheAcidsython 3 months ago
I see the dislikes are back now OSGUI and his fake accounts are active again ;)
BelaFleckFan 3 months ago 8
@BelaFleckFan
yep.
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Wait....you got one guy that has many accounts that he uses to down vote your videos? Wow, 2 year old much? I would create many accounts to upvote you but unlike him I have a life. lol.
TTT1776 2 months ago
@BelaFleckFan OSGUI is an idiot
broederjacobs 3 months ago
@BelaFleckFan ooh thats why there are so many dislikes. didnt got it first
martenLij 3 months ago
ill stick to KDE for now..
ftffighter 3 months ago
@TheHugeTuber
which problem? i have demonstrated a few issues.... the Mint gnome-shell extensions are definately buggy.... some other issues may be with nouveau which is default for nvidia users.... experience with mint 12 may vary between nvidia/ati users... but for the most part the Majority of people i speak to have quite a few of my issues with mint 12. Where as stock gnome 3.2 is much more stable.... eg on arch etc
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Installed the final release, had no problems so far...dunno
IronAmethyst 3 months ago
@IronAmethyst
let me know in a week or so of extensive use ;)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
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aaron8x 3 months ago
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OujiDarkmatter 3 months ago
Hi there Linux4unme, wud u still recommend going for mint 12, or shud i w8 for it to mature, and until then stay with mint 11?
12345ms 3 months ago
@12345ms
lol hell no, i wouldn't go for LM12. Maybe something Like PcLinuxOs would be good for you since it is stable and well tested . Otherwise MInt 11 is good
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
i will say i do get one bug. when i select the extension panel the graphics shit themselves on some of the options, otherwise no problem
Spamazoid 3 months ago
the final release aint buggy on mine, it was buggy on the pre-final release :) just don't use the drivers Linux suggests, download the newer drivers from AMD if you are using ATI that is.
Mint's only real issues are the menu/software manager look boring, if they could add a software manager more like an App Store such as Ubuntu has then it would be alot better imo.
Spamazoid 3 months ago
I agree, disappointing... I went back to Ubuntu Unity, Ubuntu is running better for me.
danpedroza007 3 months ago
Maybe linux mint 12 has a buggy shell. I do not have any of this bugs in my gnome shell arch box. So stop complaining about gnome shell. Blame Mint.
PelonDancer 3 months ago
@PelonDancer
I did mention i didn't have so many problems on archlinux with gnome-shell. It is the buggy extensions mostly causing the problem... but the app preview bug on workspaces is present even on arch
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@Linux4UnMe weird. I'll video respond showing my desktop. No bugs in desktop preview. I've got nvidia drivers running.
PelonchasDancer 3 months ago
I installed Linux Mint 12 and mine works absolutely fine only time i get trouble is when i plug in my monitor i do get a few bugs here and there but other than that no trouble at all. Good review hope Linux Mint 12 works out for you in future :)
RapidRedPyro 3 months ago
I am running gnome 3.2 and Shell on arch and it is fantastic. I've really come to enjoy and appreciate Gnome-Shell and am looking forward to what its developement in the future.
I honestly cannot stand an abundance of redundancy in a desktop, and that is what linux mint looks like to me :-(
The way I see it, I am fully functional in Gnome-Shell, as well as gnome-classic, putting the two together does not translate to being double functional ;-) rather, just very messy, cluttered, and unelegant.
brittyazel 3 months ago 3
@brittyazel I totally agree with you. Gnome 3.2 shell arch box here :)
PelonDancer 3 months ago
Thank god (Clem) for MATE. I am sticking with Mint 10 till MATE is fully ready. But then again, I do wonder what the advantage will be in upgrading.....
mjones410 3 months ago
I have installed it and found several bugs already, double of icon applications, workspaces switching also, and for some reason sometimes desktop freezes... but it is looking good though.
masalcedo1 3 months ago
OK good job
Mrcontrol725 3 months ago
Do you have a twitter? Also have you tried or can you review Fuduntu? Heard it knocks PCLinuxOS out place for the newb-friendly/"just works" distribution.
JonathanIsrael708 3 months ago
@JonathanIsrael708
nar don't have twitter
I think i've tried it before... a long time ago.... arghh i hate that friggin name "Fuduntu"
might have a look at it again soon
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
A shutdown option you say! why would anyone want to shutdown their computer? :D
joe4ska 3 months ago
@joe4ska
dunno... ask the gnome devs :)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@joe4ska Green planet; electricity costs, thunderstorm lighning, EMF-noise nearby (arc-welding, etc), holidays, building maintenance, ...
grey0powerlessnesss 3 months ago
Mate is pronounced "Mah-Tay" like the tea ;)
Neruson1981 3 months ago
@Neruson1981
ohwell... they shouldn't spell it like g'dayyyyyy MATE! :)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
One of my machines runs lm-11 and it's just great, this video is very useful otherwise i would of switched to 12 already. i agree with all you said and thank you for this review i will hold back until Lm switches to kde or xfce. or what would be better is if mate takes off. when gnome 3 came out and i installed it i thought it was lacking. it;s still lacking. :P
jesus2012end 3 months ago
@jesus2012end
yeah mint 11 was great "apart from a few bugs that came after :O )
thanx
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
yes gnome shell in Mint is much more buggy than on my Fedora 16
JoFri24 3 months ago
My advice. Stick with KDE!!. Gnome 3 has a long way to go, and this proves it.
bkovacs7 3 months ago
@bkovacs7
e17 ftw :P :P :P
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@bkovacs7 lol the linux mint rendition of Gnome 3 is hardly representational of Gnome 3 as a whole. I have used it on Ubuntu, Fedora, and Arch and have found it to be stable and pleasant....this rendition is a little strange for my tastes. If I hadn't been using the working "how-it-is-meant-to-be" version of Gnome-Shell it would put a bad taste in my mouth as well, but I swear that the lm12 gnome 3 is accurate to stock gnome 3
brittyazel 3 months ago
@brittyazel
you mean "isn't" ?
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@Linux4UnMe yes, I meant "isn't" in my last sentence. <---what happens when you write comments at 2 am ;-)
brittyazel 3 months ago
So you have the option of a buggy gnome 3 desktop that is very unusable or a buggy copy of gnome 2 desktop. Sometimes I think it pays to stick to the stable releases like debian.
ljscott1990 3 months ago
@ljscott1990
lol pretty much for now
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I prefer KDE and Xfce desktop environment at this time over GNOME 3 and Unity.
boggs2005 3 months ago 2
@boggs2005
i'm using E17 ;)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Yup! E17 for me as well. It's great and I love it especially with bodhi
YaseenNoorani 3 months ago
@bcbudful Gaaaaaaanz ruhig;) Naja KDE ist meiner Meinung nach Gnome auf jeden Fall überlegen, wenn man mal von der Geschwindigkeit absieht. Ich persönlich komme aber mit Gnome-Shell einfach nicht zurecht, da ändert auch mgse nichts dran. Aber trotzdem, lieber das als unity, du pappnase:)
Pistenraupe91 3 months ago
Kaddy, any idea how long Mint 11 will be officially supported for? and I take it "Mate" is remaining GTK2 based? thanks
22ness0hayden 3 months ago
@22ness0hayden
until October 2012 man
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I just can't use Gnome 3, and Mint 12 implementation of it makes no difference. Although it is visually pleasing at first, the many restrictions on customization render it unpractical. For the moment Mint 11 with Gnome 2.xx is a much better choice for me.
Keep up the good work, I always enjoy your videos.
shobogatz 3 months ago
@shobogatz Neither and I have used it extensively. It just doesn't make sense how it's layed out and how you have to constantly go from one side of the screen to the other. Mint 11 with Gnome 2 is the end of the road for me as far as Gnome based distros go. KDE however lives on.
22ness0hayden 3 months ago
I dont know about Mint, but my ARCH installation with Gnome3 works flawlessly. I havent installed any extensions though.
ClansmanAliasTool 3 months ago
Thought i would add a bug On my pc (nivda on board) it automaticly goes to gnome shell regular and wont let you do anything in the os itself and is probly going to go to good old ubuntu 11:10
willlisawsom 3 months ago
Kaddy where's new intro? sorry busy these days man :-(. couldn't make my thing.
TheLolipro 3 months ago
@TheLolipro
hi mate
Only recieved 1 video intro so far... and 1 more is coming... recieved a few other bits n bobs though like my new Banner which is AWESOMEEE. I may have to make my own video intro If I don't recieve one I like as much as my current one.... :D
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
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TheLolipro 3 months ago
Hey Kaddy, man this sucks. I don't have words to express how much this just SUCKS. Ubuntu 10.10 was the last great Ubuntu distro. Now Linux Mint 11 is the last great one for them. I DO NOT like Gnome 3.x or Unity. Only time will tell.
mschmaUT 3 months ago
@mschmaUT
indeed it does... And I expected Mint to not release until it was stable enough... but looks like they have disappointed for the first time.... If i was Clem i'de take the iso's off the mirrors and hold off until it get's more bug fixes... This release is atrocious and may destroy Mint's credibility
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@mschmaUT Tried many new releases in the Ubuntu family. Settled on Xubuntu, with Cairo docks.
grey0powerlessnesss 3 months ago
I havent tried it yet but I will be instaling it using wubi because I need all the hard drive space I can get but no matter what happens I will not thumb down this video because it is your experiance on YOUR harddware, not in a vm running a windows pc like someone we both know THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT REVIEW!!!
willlisawsom 3 months ago
@willlisawsom
haha. thanx mate :)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
One of my biggest gripes with MGSE is Gnome 3 seems slower with all those extensions, or less smooth. Gnome Shell, plain, has always seemed pretty peppy to me, but not so with MGSE. My guess is all the extra javascript stuff going on but I wouldn't really know.
Anyway, nice review. Looking forward to MATE improving.
ElderSnake90 3 months ago
@ElderSnake90
MATE was awesome until it went bazerk with 100% cpu usage haha
thanx :)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Every effort is an improvement over your prior effort. Keep up the good work.
Gatorman32656 3 months ago
@Gatorman32656
cheers Gatorman
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Using Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME Shell and Nouveau on my desktop, and no problems here (other than a bug with windows eventually showing up on the wrong workspaces in Activities, but that was fixed a few weeks back).
Mint needs to get its act together, IMHO; they bit off more than they could chew with this release. Besides the bugs, Adwaita and parts of the Shell look out of place too themewise, which I wouldn't expect from Mint. Hopefully they can release a more finished desktop with Mint 13.
WarriorIng64 3 months ago
@WarriorIng64
It does seem like a rushed release and will be a major blow for their reputation after so many great previous releases... Agree about the themeing. I think Mint are on the right track... But I would of held back this release If I was Clem... Mint 13 in 6 months time will ensure a more stable mature release I think but in the meantime... Many People are going to be disgruntled with Mint after Testing this latest release....
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Review CrunchBang 10 #!
KrimsonSkies 3 months ago
Ugh... Why can't they just get rid of the top panel... Too much screen estate being taken up by having two panels. So pointless.
epicturnip 3 months ago
Gnome 3 does look super buggy still.... Looks like I'll be hitting the MATE version of Mint!
RobLoach 3 months ago
I told you, HURRY UP BITCH!
BinaryLinux 3 months ago
hi, great review (as usual). I must say I'm a bit disappointed too, expected less bugs. anyway mint12 are not the only ones added extensions by default, I saw a video review of the latest Pinguy OS 11.10 and IMO they did a much better job mixing gnome 3 and the old method.
BTW: would really appreciate a review of pinguy cause U always find the juicy interesting stuff
DoDebian 3 months ago 4
@DoDebian
ah, I forgot about Pinguy... and havn't tried their Gnome 3 remix... I'm not a big fan of Distros based on distros based on distros... i've always made an exception with Mint hehehe. But yeah, you're right... I will have to take a look at the latest Pinguy to see what they cooked up
cheers
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
If you want a better MATE Desktop experience (yes there is another distro with MATE) then try out ZevenOS-Neptune MATE Edition which is unofficial but works pretty fine so far. zevenos[dot]com/neptune (scroll to the bottom to find the MATE version)
llelectronics 3 months ago
i just downloaded it now i dont think i will install ubuntu xfce is good enouth i guess
joshuahardy95 3 months ago
@joshuahardy95 I had the RC installed. That was enough for me. Xubuntu 11.10 is exactly what I want and need.
SeaofInfinity32 3 months ago
great review. i love MATE. now for ccsm and the cube.
panderohit 3 months ago
I've used the last RC of LinuxMint12 on a low end AMD system I recently built for my work to raffle off for charity, and I've not had those problems even with the Nvidia drivers installed, have had a few times it locked up, and had to reboot, and all was good, but will be installing full LinuxMint12 in the next few days on that machine when I have time, and will update my experience then.
clays121 3 months ago
@bcbudful shut the fuck up. KDE is still the best. And if you don't like the default, you can customize it to your like
Pistenraupe91 3 months ago
@Pistenraupe91 UIIIIIIH PIstenraupe DU olle Pappnase, da ich meine meinung kund tat musst Du ja nicht gleich beleidigend werden oder !?
Also Pistenraupe, KDE und Gnome sind mir persoenlich einfach zu aufgeblasen und schraenken MEINE arebitsweise ein. Leider, hab damals mit Suse 6.7 oder so bis ungefaehr 9 oder so mit KDE alles gemacht.
Kde WAR mal mein traum. Das naechste mal Pappnase antworte freundlicher oder ich zieh dir mal deine hammelbeine lang ;) Greeting from Calgary, AB, Canada
bcbudful 3 months ago
Nice and honest review. Good ideas but still too buggy. Looks like a beta release. Hope they can fix it fast! ;-)
bhigr 3 months ago
Nice review. I like your new logo btw.
Wait, when did you become a partner?
About the new MInt, Pinguy and all these new releases, They are all a prime example why having a scheduled release date totally suck. I mean, are there any gnome shell distros out there now you can actually use? Why the hurry?
I know fedora is stable enough, but as I see it that's not a distro for everyday use.
I don't mean to complain of course, but it's sad that none of the new ubuntu based distros work properly.
blackoutworm 3 months ago
@blackoutworm
8 month release cycle is a good idea. Like suse
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I just want my old Gnome back. It was more customizable, the user had more options to change things. Gnome and KDE turn to much into apple/windows restrictions. Gnome 2 was for myself the best. I really don't like the way Gnome is going. It is getting way to hard to get it custom. Gnome 2 was much better not so cluttered with things that are not easy changeable . THAT bugs me the most. Take the power from the user is big MS and Apple BS!! Good bye Gnome and KDE YOU SUCK!!
bcbudful 3 months ago in playlist More videos from Linux4UnMe
@bcbudful I agree. :P
pbezunartea 3 months ago
@bcbudful I agree, that's why I fluxbox
youngsaintsfan 3 months ago
Is MGSE going to cross-distro like mintMenu was?
JonathanIsrael708 3 months ago
@JonathanIsrael708
likely
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@JonathanIsrael708 It's available for Arch, so I'm guessing it will come to other distros too.
robvelor 3 months ago
I'm downloading 12 now dude! I'm more then likely going to disable ALL of mints extensions and just have pure gnome 3.2 so I might do a screen cast and leave it as a video response.
BobsAwesomeCannel 3 months ago
@BobsAwesomeCannel
cool. No problems mate
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Watched that in 1080 full screen, vid quality was excellent and voice sync was only out a fraction towards the end.
Gotta say mate looks like the future of gnome3, I'd certainly not recommend gnome-shell to anyone.
I think a few minor bugs on mate is to be expected as the distro was only released a few hours ago. Wait a month and give the devs a chance to put right the minor teething issues.
I can see why Linux Mint is the worlds most popular Linux Distrobution. Thumbs up on a balanced review.
BelaFleckFan 3 months ago 2
@BelaFleckFan
I prefer my custom spin called Bogan Linux :P
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Unless you want to be able to mix up your DE, I don't really see an advantage of installing this over Mint 11. Seems like they're trying to recreate Mint 11 using a worse version of gnome. I know they've basically had no choice but I believe Mate will be the way to go with Mint 13 and beyond. Plus, having an additional bar taking up screen space is a pain. Good review man.
NewportCraig 3 months ago
you make many excuses to speak bad about LINUX MINT 12
Mrcontrol725 3 months ago
@Mrcontrol725
rightio
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
You could probably try to ditch ffmpeg in favor of libav, the ffmpeg fork. Ffmpeg was the cause of crashes in Kdenlive for me due to lacking AAC support (and probably having other incompatibilities), so I installed libav and those problems are now gone (only Pulseaudio and SDL problems stay). They obviously have crippled it lately. Using Archlinux.
By the way, Archlinux only provides libav through AUR, don't know about Linux Mint.
Reloaded211 3 months ago
@Reloaded211
u got a few tricks i'll try for the next vid ;)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I had exactly the same issues with LinMint 12.. Esspecialy with the ATI propriatary drivers which completely break the OS
SahLehron 3 months ago
@SahLehron
arghhhh. So i'm not just unlucky then. lol
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I think it is definitely a good start. By Mint 13 there will be vast improvements.
Nekryu 3 months ago
@Nekryu
indeed
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I haven't tried it myself, but looks like they should have polished just one desktop experience.
robvelor 3 months ago
I remember from my brief time using it that the clock applet thing pops up in Linux Mint 11 too!
mousegeek 3 months ago
(remember to use the amd 64 bit version, if you use Phenom II X4 or more cores)
hrbear 3 months ago
Mate DE FTW !
I'm so glad gnome2 was forked and that Mint has adopted it so early in the development. Buggy or not I still choose the mate desktop over gnome3/shell/unity crap.
scorici 3 months ago
@scorici
haha don't blame ya
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
So far I don't like Gnome 3. I stay to Gnome 2.3. I upgraded from 9 Isadora to Linux Mint 10 Julia 64bit. Gnome 3 had some problems, as I tested it on Fedora 16 (had 2 crashes). But Gnome 2.3 is very stable and more than ok!
hrbear 3 months ago
No problems for me, just you again...
C4OShea 3 months ago
@C4OShea
not even with MGSE? oh c'monn? be honest... :P
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
I've never had the workspace bug con Arch, must be a Mint problem.
robvelor 3 months ago
I haven't had any bugs with Mint so far. I did a little with Fedora 15 but much of that was fixed with 16.
TheJosephPrice 3 months ago
gnome 3 always buggy that why ubuntu 11.10 has problem in unity
2111thekiller 3 months ago
@2111thekiller i think it more base of os then gnome 3
2111thekiller 3 months ago
I had those problems on Arch on the release of gnome 3.0 but now it's very stable, I use it every day and haven't had those bugs since gnome 3.2
xangelux 3 months ago
@xangelux
yer i don't remember having this many problems on arch with gnome 3.2x
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Yea sure, I can see why people run screaming away from unity to this...geez
actionpackedPIVII 3 months ago
Personally my favorite release of 2011 :)
TheJosephPrice 3 months ago
FIRST
d00mpod 3 months ago
Good Job! :D
evolution1g 3 months ago
@evolution1g
cheers
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago