@theMuaDDiholic Singers are artists. The same way a painting can move you with its color, structure and message; a singer can move you with his/her voice, lyrics, and music. An artist can have a big impact on society. Artists can be great and they are essential for the survival of a society. Music and poetry are as important to society as science. Science, music, and poetry are food to the mind, the same way salad, bread, and meat are food to the stomach.
@couscouswoman am sorry but it seems you're a little bit mixed up, Singers are not great; poets and musicians are. Singers are merely present other people's work. Singers and Actors are very over-rated. and hey, you can't compare a painter to a song; songs die eventually, but poetry and painting live for ever and the older the get the greater they are, and you can have an example by Picasso or the great Salvado Dali
@mentehe1 Who are you to say what is art? Songs do not die. Some songs in modern times maybe are forgotten, but songs from hundreds of years in the past are still played today, and songs from today will be played forever in the future.
@dtrez09 could you please give me a name of a song from hundreds of years and still a hit today?
do you compare it to a musical piece by vivaldi for example, or to a painting by dali.....
plus, if a song is known till today, it's cause of the poet who wrote it, cause the lyrics are amazing, hence the poet deserves all the credit, not the singer. and the same thing goes for the music composer. writers and composers and painters are real artists.
@mentehe1 no your taste in art is completely close-minded. You assume just because it's modern it isn't good? You assume just because somebody sings a song they didn't write it? Singing is just as much a talent as being able to write lyrics or poetry anyway. Only some people can do it and don't tell me they don't work hard.
@dtrez09 hey you, I didn't say that old is gold, and that music is dead. I said that singers and actors are over-rated, I said that Musicians, poets, and painters are the real artists, and that has nothing to do with the timing of their existence, whether its the 1800's or 2011.
@dtrez09 what I meant by songs is the "singer factor" songs may contain a great piece of music or some amazing lyrics. all I said was that singers and actors are over-rated>
@mentehe1 I don't even know why I am still talking to you. I am not hear to debate who should take credit for music. I am not even hear to debate whether these people are great women. Just stop talking to me. I have to go and learn things now, something you are clearly opposed to.
@mentehe1 I started this discussion but then I ended it because you are childish and big headed. You carry on talking to me because think you are so right, but I am the one who is mature enough to stop arguing.
I only reply now to tell you it's not school. It's university.
queen rania is impressive for ANY country's woman in the world, not just arab countries. she is highly intelligent, educated, confident, elegant, brave, active...
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these fucking bastards were stealing omen from Georgia for many centuries and now they got pretty women?! huh! Almost all Muslim ruler's first wife was Georgian. I hate muslims. genetically hate you bastards.
@114252 did i mention black? I got nothing to o with them. I said muslims. because for many centuries those bastards were killing my ancestors for being Christians. they basically committed many Genocides in my country. do u think I have to like them? especially backward bastard males, who cut their wives noses and are also pedophiles? no, I genetically hate muslims with arabic background, like persians( iran today)Afghanistan, turks and from arab peninsula. do u have any problems with it?
@virtual7insanity You should change your name to real insanity not virtual. You are insane. You are psychotic. You are full of hate. What did happen to you in the past to make you that hateful. Shame on you for insulting our women and our religion. You need an education. We are trying to promote peace in the world and you are instigating hate and war. Shame on you.
@virtual7insanity It was the christians who started wars. They started world war 1, world war 2, the bosnian war, and many more. Almost 70 millions Europeans died in world war II. The christians killed the muslims in bosnia, the jews in germany and the slaves in russia. Arabs never committed genocide against any people. You need to look at the mirror to find that its your people who are murderers and not Arabs. Arabs are peaceful people and Islam is a religion of peace.
@virtual7insanity right. catholics. But Orthodox Georgia has nothing to do with it. During 26 centuries Georgia never ever occupied or annexed any other country. or forced anybody to change it's religion, unlike your fuckin muslim ancestors. So, live us out of that catholic bullshit. and I still hate you and every Georgian hates you and we will hate you for ever. you are stinky pigs. worse that pigs.
@virtual7insanity Now I can say that You are a fucking trash for being a hater. You should not represent your country. Flashback. Europeans like you ( your people) apartheid South Africans, enslaved Africans and kidnapped them to the USA to do the work for them and fuck them. All great wars started by your type of ignorant people. Heroshima is your deeds. killing the Palestinians, Bosnians and Herzegovinas ...killed Jesus and most of the previous prophets.what are you proud of?
@GoaM6 These women are Arabs, pure, except for Queen Noor. She is part American. The others are pure Arabs. You have the misconceptions that Arabs are dark skinned. There are white skinned Arabs and dark skinned Arabs. Dark skinned Arabs you find them in Saudi Arabia and Yemen where there is constant sun and white Arabs you find them in Morocco, Syria and Lebanon where there is less sun and more moisture. God bless.
ليش تنبنبع هذي وتعوج لسانها .... حكامنا وزوجاتهم صارو طماشه ولا يعبرون عن شعوبهم ولا لغتها ولادينها ... عجل ليش ظالين ف الحكم كاتمين ع انفاسنا هالاقزام المهزومين لا شرف ولا غيره ولا هوية ولا انتماء
@rita21200 You are mixing two things: Arab is a race, American is a nationality. You can be Arab and American at the same time. Instead of checking youtube, why don't you go have better education. You should know that there are many Americans who are Arabs. If you want to know who they are, type the Arab Americans in you tube search window.
@couscouswoman i did go to school-ivy league-if u study socialogy ...were a person is from depends on three things 1-were u r born 2-were ur parents r from 3- were u spend most of ur time. queen noor born USA parents USA spent most of her life in the USA & has a home in virgina ....& in regards to me being on u tube seams like u spend more time on it then i do since ur probably on some countrys wellfare system making videos about arab womenPEACE from THE GREAT UNITED STATES
Arab is not a race. Arab is an ethnicity. Not in the same context as religion. But religion is not the only component of ethnicity. You also have origin and culture that count as ethnicity and Arab is an ethnicity. Single Language called Arabic, most are Muslim, but even those that aren't possess much of the same other cultural attributes, and they have a supra-national identity through the Arab League, which although heavily disorganized, it still functions as a Supra-nation like the EU.
@TheRadicalRyushin I agree with you. I am not arab. I am originaly from Spain and living now in Center America, but I was living in morocco for a while, and morocco is an arab country ... and you cand find muslims, christians and jews living together in armony and peace. All neighborns and all friends, all same ethnicity (you can find also berbers and qabils) and everyone has their own religion, as they want and prefer. Is a good sample of tolerance and peace inside an arab country.
No, I am originally from Barcelona. I was born in Barcelona but I grew up in Valencia. Now I am living in center america, in a beautifull tropical country, since 18 years ago.
@couscouswoman Actually, i would like to point out that Arab's are people who speak Arabic as a native language. Technically, it is not a race. However, with time, it has been dubbed a race due to the increasingly large number of people who speak arabic. Countries such as Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Saudi and so on are called Arab countries due to the fact that they are inhabited with Arabs and the constitution and so on are are drafted in Arabic. The same goes for Americans, they are not a race.
@FALTAWWS yes she is , but queens noor back goround is a christian Lebanese
her grand father was Elli halaby who migrated from Lebanon to USA with wife elmas and two sons habib and najeeb who is the father of queen noor ,her real original name is LISA NAJEEB HALABY ., changed her name after she met with king hussian who was a friend of her father ,and he choose to call her a muslim name noor..
@thetealady66 The song is called, I never die. It was made by two Moroccan Americans in a house in Southern California, with an electric guitar and a mac computer. You won't find this song anywhere except in another video called Moroccan Arabica, which was sung by a woman. This song is chosen to be played in a coming-up American movie, still in production.
@jash1427 i know 2 of them the second one called the queen rania and she is Jordon's queen .the forth one called oum kallthum and she was a great egyption singer in da past
@annabachawi1 What your referring to are not races! Theses are ancient kingdoms and civilizations of the Arab ancestors. All theses successive civilizations took place on one area inhabited by a people with the same genetic fingerprint. Alexandria for example contains antiquities from all these kingdoms.
I never understood the West's fascination with the shades of human flesh? How could you not take race into consideration when forming "ethnic" groups? Can we say that all the red heads in the world belong to one ethnic category? For us, if a non African man marries an African women, then all his children and his brother's children will belong to the same race. It is not about the color its about the paternal blood line. This is how it is with DNA ancestral testing as well.
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i notice two main types in the arabic-speaking world, the middle eastern semitic type, from Yemen to Syria, and the north african, hamitic type, from egypt to morocco.
and both types have a north/south scale of skin pigmentation. the fairest being in the north and the darkest in the south.
typically the north africans have skinny long faces and curly hair, while the semites have fleshy round faces and silky hair, as a general rule. also the N-A are a bit taller than semites, it seems.
Please stop fighting and arguing. "Matmoodtheone" needs our help. Please send all available virgins to his madrassa in Mecca. He is way behind his quota for paradise and needs those virgins right now. Don't delay. He also takes American Express donations.
J1 (M267) Found frequently in the Arabian Peninsula, Dagestan, Mesopotamia, the Levant and Semitic-speaking populations of North Africa and Northeast Africa, with a moderate distribution throughout Southwest Asia
Voici la liste des premiers indigenes de la Lybie avant les berbers(source vikeapedia) :ADYRMACHIDAE,GILIGAMAE,ASBYSTAE,MARMARIDAE,AUSCHISAE, NASAMONES,MACAE, LOTUS-EATERS,GARAMANTES, GAITULIANS,
J2 (M172) Typical of populations of the Near East, Southeast Europe, Southwest Asia and the Caucasus, with a moderate distribution through much of Central Asia, South Asia, and North Africa
@AraboAlgerian2 , explique moi un peu , si je comprends bien tu accepte l'idée que la langue française se soit diffusée parmi les algériens, mais tu n'acceptes pas l'idée que la langue arabe se soit diffusée ainsi aussi, pour toi ceux qui parlent le français sont des francisés, mais ceux qui parlent l'arabe sont de vrais arabes. alors meme que le français n'a eu que 130 ans pour se diffuser alors que l'arabe se diffuse depuis 13 siècles ! qu'est ce que c'est que cette logique?
le français est inclut dans ce que tu appelles l'arabe ou le berbère algériens , donc il est bien dans les langues maternelles, meme s'il n'est pas sous forme pure.
non, leur langue maternelle n'est pas le français, mais le français fait partie de cette langue maternelle .
Donc non, ceux qui parlent le français l'ont appris à l'école, ils ne sont donc pas francisés.
Crois moi le français, en tant qu'ex-langue colonisatrice ( c'est un fait ) est en passe de disparaitre dans bcp de régions arabophones, au profit de l'arabe -bien sur- mais aussi de l'anglais.
@AraboAlgerian2 oui, le français est appris à l'école aujourd'hui et au temps de la colonisation, et il finit par faire partie du language, jusqu'à etre transmis directement à la génération suivante sans meme passer par l'école .
mais as-tu oublié que pendant des siècles, c'est l'arabe qui était appris dans les écoles en algérie? n'a-t-il pas pu se répandre de cette manière? surtout dans les villes et les plaines où l'instruction est répandue. moins dans les zones de montagne.
"le français est appris à l'école aujourd'hui et au temps de la colonisation, et il finit par faire partie du language, jusqu'à etre transmis directement à la génération suivante sans meme passer par l'école . "
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Peut être chez toi mais pas chez moi. Le français est une langue étrangère, comme l'anglais ou autre, et avant l'age de 10 ans kes enfants ne parlent qu'une langue, l'arabe (dialectal).
DrMassyle, le francais ,on l'a appri a l'ecole , il ne s'est pas propage comme l'arabe au sein de la population. Moi meme, j'ai commence l'ecole en premiere annee primaire en francais mais je connaissais deja l'arabe grace au Djemaa ,Pour te dire quand j'ai eu mon Bac je ne savais meme pas faire une phrase ou ecrire une lettre correctmt alors ne dites pas que cette langue heritage colonnial s'est propagee' a tarvers le peuple, meme entre mes amis les cadres on en parle pas, alors assez SVP
meme réponse que celle que je viens de faire à araboalgerian2. une langue pénétre très bien une population par l'école ou l'église ou la mosquée. et l'arabe a eu 13 siècles déja pour le faire chez nous.
exemple: la latinisation jusqu'à présent des populations de France , d'espagne , du portugal , anciennement des villes d'afrique du nord et de tout l'empire romain.
autre exemple: l'arabisation des habitants de la Syrie, de l'Egypte, de la Nubie (soudan).
@AraboAlgerian2 là tu veux changer de sujet , le sujet de la discussion que j'ai avec toi et djiljilala porte sur l'origine ethnique des arabophones algériens, et pas sur ce que ça change concrètement aujourd'hui. ça c'est un autre sujet.
je suis tenté de répondre à ta question mais je préfère qu'on en finisse d'abord tous les trois avec le premier sujet .
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@AraboAlgerian2 alors là tu as complètement changé de discours, c'est toi meme qui disais qu'ils étaient d'origine arabe, descendants des banu hilal et compagnie et arrivés en algérie au moyen age.
et maintenant tu me dis qu'ils sont berbères à l'origine et devenus arabes par vertu de leur langue? ok , mais il faut préciser clairement ta position. alors, en majorité d'origine arabe venus au moyen age ou en majorité d'origine berbère et arabisés?
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en effet, tu n'as pas dit exactement ça, désolé, mais tu l'as sous entendu, puisque tu as dit qu'on était arabe à partir du moment qu'on parlait arabe en tant que première langue. donc si quelqu'un est d'origine berbère ou espagnole et qu'il commence à parler arabe en tant que langue mère il devient arabe. ok, ça c'est ton point de vue et c'est un autre sujet.
mais notre sujet là c'est est ce que les arabophones algériens sont en majorité d'origine berbère ou venus d'arabie.
Mr Massyle ,qui t'as dit que si un berber qui parle que de l'arabe ,on le prend pour un arabe. tu deconnes mais si il se prend pour un arabe c'est son choix ,j'ai des amis berbers qui ont seulement que l'arabe comme langue maternellle et qui jusque la' moi et les amis on les appellent Zwawas , Ca nous revient pas le droit de changer l'identitee des autres mais si il y a des arabes qui ont resides avec les berbers depuis 740 AD pour leur enseigner l'islam et qui sont devenu assimile C la vie
the french language is well spread among the algerians, and nearly all of them use at least some french in their everyday language, and yet none of them is of french origin .
all this because french was the official language of algeria during 130 years, and the language of trade and education.
arabic had this same role during a much longer time, nearly 1000 years, so it is normal it would be well spread among the population. it doesn't mean they are arabs in origin, nor french.
MrMassyle, you need to study some history. You see to be ignorant. Arabs came physically to North Africa. Do you understand what physically mean? They came and they penetrated. It was a part of the prophet's message; go out there and spread Islam. It was a duty for Muslim Arabs to spread Islam. What are you doing here in Arab site. Go to your french algerian site and write there. I can't believe you allowed the french to stay in your country for 130 years.
yes , and the vandals also came physically , so i'm a vandal of german ancestry . it seems that measure and proportion have no meaning for you.
then you start talking in degratory terms about algerians , saying this is an arab site and i have no place in it and other senseless blah blah blah , and frankly i have no time to waste with people of your class .
@Massyle:Stop philospher avec les murs,comment tu oses dire ce qui rentre pas dans la tete.Tu penses que nous etions des Kabyles avec un teint blanc et apres etre arabises nous sommes devenus des bruns avec une nuance de couleur. A chaque fois je parle a' un etranger ou je fais une connaissance ,ils me prennent pour un arabe et qd je pose la question ,comment vous savez, ils me repondent que je ressemble a un arabien, alors que dire des maghrebins qui sont plus fonces que moi. Soyez raisonnable
moi je suis de l'est algérien, et croyez moi, les kabyles et les chaouis n'ont pas un teint plus blanc que les arabophones. c'est le meme teint et les memes tetes.
je ne sais pas de quelle région vous etes, mais les différences de teint existent meme au sein des berbères, suivant la région et le climat dans lequel ils vivent.
c'est vrai que si vous etes de l'ouest, les gens de l'ouest en général ont le teint plus foncé que les gens de l'est, excepté pour ceux de tlemcen et sa région.
prend un paquet de kabyles et un paquet d'allemands , tu verras une grande différence! ne me parle pas de quelques cas individuels, on peut en trouver partout, des gens qui ressemblent à des allemands, en kabylie, à annaba, à sétif, et meme à biskra (abassi madani par exemple).
aussi le climat influence le physique et le teint, les gens du nord-est ont le teint plus clair en général que ceux de l'intérieur ou de l'ouest, c'est lié au climat. mais ils sont tous berbères.
@AraboAlgerian2 c'est faux. le français est plus répandu dans les grandes villes, et elles sont arabophones, il est peu répandu en kabylie, dans les aurès, et encore moins dans le mzab ou autre région berbèrophone de l'algérie intérieure.
donne moi cette étude génétique qui confirme cette différence, une étude génétique qui a été menée dans plusieurs régions d'algérie et qui montre bien une nette différence génétique entre régions arabophones et berèrophones.
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hahaha tahamaw aalik massyle. Boumedienne est un bon exemple,lui meme amazigh koutama il voulait que cette identité amazigh soit rayée et c'est comme ca depuis des siecles.Ibn khaldun decrit l'assimilation des amazighs, elle se fait par des leviers politiques et surtout religieux et par amour pour le coran. C'est une question de temps pour que l'histoire soit connue et qu'on accepte que l'arabité n'est pas genetique meme si ils sont venus ils etaient peu nombreux .
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ce n'est pas le sujet du débat , qu'on veuille s'arabiser ou pas c'est un autre débat .
mais comme tu reconnais que la majorité ethnique est d'origine amazighe alors nous sommes d'accord . c'est tout ce que je voulais prouver , contre ces falsificateurs de l'histoire qu'on trouve un peu partout qui viennent nous raconter que nous sommes tous d'origine arabique sauf pour quelques montagnards de tizi ouzou ou de batna . salut .
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A mon avis les falscificateurs ne sont pas le commun des mortels mais bien les decideurs et l'histoire officielle enseignée a l'ecole algerienne ou maghrebine en general. Tout le peuple algerien au complet est spolié de son histoire.
Tu ments Delaamia ,AHNA AL HAMDOU LILLAH, nous les arabes meme si comme tu dis nous sommes MAJMINoritaires , nous connaissons d'ou' nous venons , de la peninsule arabe ,nous sommes les descendants de Beni Hillel, Ban Maquil,Soleims,Qawm
Zenata,Beni Ameur,Zoghbas,Beni jabir,Beni Hattab et pour sur surtout pas de quelques ratissage de l'armee francaise durant la declaration de la Kabylie zone interdite et pendant laquelle des beaux gosses avec des yeux bleus ont ete ajoutes au melting pote d' ALG
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Tu es incapable de comprendre le concept de l'assimilation qui pourtant est decrit par les historiens et les sociologues et tu en es reduit a debloquer.Le menteur c'est toi, Honte a toi, car tu le sais que tu inventes des histoires sur les kabyles, qui sont beaux gosses(d'apres toi, cafard jaloux) et cela depuis l'antiquite. Parle plutot des oranais bruns zroguas,qui nous rappelle le passage des senegalais de l'armée francaise.
it is true that a language spoken by a minority can hardly be spread among a majority, however, when that language is the language of the state things are different, the official language of the state tends to be spread among the population, simply because it becomes the language of trade and the language of education. just look at the french regions, they spoke different dialects, even germanic dialects like in alsace, and now all their people speak french, which was only the dialect of paris.
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the arabs of arabia are a special race , they don't look like the different arabized populations of the middle east and north africa , presenting the arabized people as arabian race is really ridiculous .
i speak an algerian dialect of arabic , yet i look typically mediterranean from the latitudes of algeria , with a fair skin and a brown hair . you can't make me believe that i'm an arab , you can't at all . arabs are darker and quite different in features .
I couldn't agree more! Arabia is Saudi, Yemen, and Oman and the Gulf States only. North Africa and The Near East should be renamed 'South Mediterranean' and 'East Mediterranean'.
@jordanianandproud -hey Mr Jordan we are so proud about our amazigh and arabic culture and we have a big white history , it's not our problem if you are ashamed about yours , we were always helping ottomans while sharif hussain was helping england against them , and his sons sold palestine to jews . there is a big differance between us and you so watch yourself when you talk about ALGERIA
@jokerabed1 Jesus, with that tone of being defensive, no wonder you're trying so hard to proof something wrong.
First of all, the Ottomans were the worst thing to happen to our area, they brought ignorance and militaristic repression thus closing the borders and the minds of the people. Tell me, when did scientific research and genocide of minorities begin? When the Ottomans came. They didn't help Algeria because they like Algerians, its because they were shagging in politics and army with Spain
@jokerabed1 2nd of all, I'm not ashamed of my history, one ashamed of his history would try to cover it, and that's as far as it gets from what I'm doing over here. I have no interest in discussing politics of such matter because we all know that Sharif Hussein is from Mecca, not Jordan,3rd of all, he was manoeuvred by the Sykes Picot agreement. Check your history facts first before you make a complete ass of yourself.
@jordanianandproud Ottomans helped us because they would create a muslim khilafa and they did it , and they were never bad , but the history that you read in your books is completly wrong , the truth is that sherif hussain would keep the governance for himself and his children so he started a revolution against them , ottomans were here for more than 3 centuries , they helped us to build the army the economy , and there are a lot of people here who have turk origines live here
@jokerabed1 Why of course, your people were the blind soldiers in that war against humanity! The Ottomans were savage and racist and they conducted a mass scale execution process in Beirut, Damascus, Nablus and Salt. They moved Turkish people in an attempt to Turkificate the land by removing the original people, which happened also in Armenia (Rings a bell?). Now the Turks are merely playing the football of Palestine just to regain some economic advantages to pull them out of the recession swamp
@jokerabed1 and last but not least, yes there is a big difference between us, that's why we don't want any sort of unity with your likes.
Remember Carthage? The daughter of Phonecia which brought civilization to your area? It was made by us, the Levantines, the sons of Phonecia, Ugarit, Ammon, Mo'ab and Nabatea.
@jordanianandproud Amazighs have their own letters for their language and it's called tifnagh (made by massinissa) and they had kingdoms and civilization before your "carthage" born , then catharge was in tunisia not in algeria , more over phoenicians were in lebanon not in jordan , jordan? what jordan? you were just a desert before 1922 , ghassanids who lived their were arabs , they were following romans , while our kings were dying when fighting against them
@jokerabed1 We here in the Levant are not divided entities, we are one. I did not say either Jordan or Lebanon & if you think I did, check your eyes. And for your information, the 1st settlement in the world is Ain Ghazal in Jordan, Google it. Unless you know all fragments of history, don't boast about it. And while you're at it, fix your multinational identity problem and choose a side to stick to. Ghassanids are Semites, just like Jews. Would you call Jews Arabs just because they are Semites?
@jordanianandproud , NOW arabs want to return to the turkish role , you know what ? we are so proud because we helped ottomans in navarin (greece) battle and our army broke down their , when your people were preparing the revolution , the worst thing in that area was lawrance , wonder how one man deceived your people , he helped you against ottomans and he came with the british army to colonize you... and I won't talk about the modern history cuz it's "3eeb" as you say :)
@jokerabed1 The hell we want to return to that rat hole of a country. Turkey is an obsessive racist country with the notion of the Turanid racial superiority that should direct its sails towards their 'borthers of blood' in Central Asia because that's where they belong. Lawrence of Arabia was a soldier and he was working in the best interest of his country, and because of the Age of Ignorance fabricated by Turkey, his works were successful.
@jokerabed1 Turks banned schools and took 7 of each 10 males to fight for their sick wars of power in the Balkans, they eliminated the notion of free thought and education, turned religious institutes to nothing more than media outlets for their campaigns, they oppressed Christians thus giving the opportunity to European sovereigns to barge in and offer their protection to Christian minorities. Turkey is not more than a double faced piece of garbage.
THE GREAT AND DREAM PERSON IS QUEEN NOOR!!!!!!
ArianeCatherine 1 month ago
Fairouz is The goddess
arabiannight100 7 months ago
I am sorry to say but Sheikha Mozah never was great Arab Women and never will be.
Number one was and always will be Suzanne Mubarak
210Baku 8 months ago
these are not true blood arabs,these are of european descent.the arabs/turks raided europe many times looking for white virgins to rape
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
what about mozza?what is she doing?
mhamdg 10 months ago
Last night, I punched my wife right in the mouth as I was angry at my sub-standard cold dinner.
On reflection, I may have over-reacted.
We were in a restaurant at the time
LesbianBondageFiaso 1 year ago
Yes they are very lovely, but the music is not
Beulah502 1 year ago
hey racist people morocco is north africa
NaBjE11 6 months ago
queen rania wins
opil234 1 year ago
0:47 ام كلثوم
nnasser007 1 year ago
since when singers and actors are considered "great" ?
theMuaDDiholic 1 year ago
@theMuaDDiholic Singers are artists. The same way a painting can move you with its color, structure and message; a singer can move you with his/her voice, lyrics, and music. An artist can have a big impact on society. Artists can be great and they are essential for the survival of a society. Music and poetry are as important to society as science. Science, music, and poetry are food to the mind, the same way salad, bread, and meat are food to the stomach.
couscouswoman 1 year ago
@couscouswoman am sorry but it seems you're a little bit mixed up, Singers are not great; poets and musicians are. Singers are merely present other people's work. Singers and Actors are very over-rated. and hey, you can't compare a painter to a song; songs die eventually, but poetry and painting live for ever and the older the get the greater they are, and you can have an example by Picasso or the great Salvado Dali
mentehe1 7 months ago
@mentehe1 Who are you to say what is art? Songs do not die. Some songs in modern times maybe are forgotten, but songs from hundreds of years in the past are still played today, and songs from today will be played forever in the future.
dtrez09 4 months ago
@dtrez09 could you please give me a name of a song from hundreds of years and still a hit today?
do you compare it to a musical piece by vivaldi for example, or to a painting by dali.....
plus, if a song is known till today, it's cause of the poet who wrote it, cause the lyrics are amazing, hence the poet deserves all the credit, not the singer. and the same thing goes for the music composer. writers and composers and painters are real artists.
mentehe1 4 months ago
@mentehe1 A musical piece by Vivaldi is a song no less than modern songs today.
dtrez09 4 months ago
@dtrez09 say what? do you compare vivaldi to a singer, a mere performer, omg.....
am sorry man, but your taste of art is shallow
mentehe1 4 months ago
@mentehe1 no your taste in art is completely close-minded. You assume just because it's modern it isn't good? You assume just because somebody sings a song they didn't write it? Singing is just as much a talent as being able to write lyrics or poetry anyway. Only some people can do it and don't tell me they don't work hard.
dtrez09 4 months ago
@dtrez09 hey you, I didn't say that old is gold, and that music is dead. I said that singers and actors are over-rated, I said that Musicians, poets, and painters are the real artists, and that has nothing to do with the timing of their existence, whether its the 1800's or 2011.
mentehe1 4 months ago
@mentehe1 Really? Because what I heard you say was songs die eventually, which is just not true.
dtrez09 4 months ago
@dtrez09 what I meant by songs is the "singer factor" songs may contain a great piece of music or some amazing lyrics. all I said was that singers and actors are over-rated>
mentehe1 4 months ago
@mentehe1 I don't even know why I am still talking to you. I am not hear to debate who should take credit for music. I am not even hear to debate whether these people are great women. Just stop talking to me. I have to go and learn things now, something you are clearly opposed to.
dtrez09 4 months ago
@dtrez09 aha, so it turned out that you're just another idiot who can't even make a decent dialogue.
you're the one who commented on my 1st comment. so next time when you see a comment just cut the crap and don't comment you ignorant idiot.
go back to your school boy and try to learn something
mentehe1 4 months ago
@mentehe1 I started this discussion but then I ended it because you are childish and big headed. You carry on talking to me because think you are so right, but I am the one who is mature enough to stop arguing.
I only reply now to tell you it's not school. It's university.
dtrez09 4 months ago
queen rania is impressive for ANY country's woman in the world, not just arab countries. she is highly intelligent, educated, confident, elegant, brave, active...
sherhak 1 year ago 2
Can people please write in english here? :)
It is an Public video :P
cappermeh 1 year ago
عاش العرب وعاشت امتنا العربيه من المحيط الى الخليج العربي وطززززز في اعدائنا كلهم
waelabdul1 1 year ago 3
couscouswoman can you tell me why are they Great? i mean what they Achieved?
i know little about Queen Rania, maybe also about Sheikha Mozah ...
gaqulin 1 year ago
@gaqulin
7 hours ago
Lalla Salma announced her support for the global prevention campaign "Today's children, tomorrow's world" of the International Union Against Cancer (UICC). As UICC Special Representative and the WHO Goodwill Ambassador for the promotion of prevention and cancer care, she considers the fight against cancer as "a school of humility and a determination of collective solidarity". "The fight against cancer must be given the urgency and the importance that it merits - and, now."
couscouswoman 1 year ago
@couscouswoman thank you so much ...
gaqulin 1 year ago 2
these fucking bastards were stealing omen from Georgia for many centuries and now they got pretty women?! huh! Almost all Muslim ruler's first wife was Georgian. I hate muslims. genetically hate you bastards.
virtual7insanity 1 year ago
@virtual7insanity do u hate blacks? do u genetically hate blacks.
114252 1 year ago
@114252 did i mention black? I got nothing to o with them. I said muslims. because for many centuries those bastards were killing my ancestors for being Christians. they basically committed many Genocides in my country. do u think I have to like them? especially backward bastard males, who cut their wives noses and are also pedophiles? no, I genetically hate muslims with arabic background, like persians( iran today)Afghanistan, turks and from arab peninsula. do u have any problems with it?
virtual7insanity 1 year ago
@virtual7insanity You should change your name to real insanity not virtual. You are insane. You are psychotic. You are full of hate. What did happen to you in the past to make you that hateful. Shame on you for insulting our women and our religion. You need an education. We are trying to promote peace in the world and you are instigating hate and war. Shame on you.
couscouswoman 1 year ago 2
@couscouswoman p.s. mogitkant mshvidobiani muslimi.
virtual7insanity 1 year ago
@virtual7insanity It was the christians who started wars. They started world war 1, world war 2, the bosnian war, and many more. Almost 70 millions Europeans died in world war II. The christians killed the muslims in bosnia, the jews in germany and the slaves in russia. Arabs never committed genocide against any people. You need to look at the mirror to find that its your people who are murderers and not Arabs. Arabs are peaceful people and Islam is a religion of peace.
RassLkoumira 1 year ago 2
@virtual7insanity right. catholics. But Orthodox Georgia has nothing to do with it. During 26 centuries Georgia never ever occupied or annexed any other country. or forced anybody to change it's religion, unlike your fuckin muslim ancestors. So, live us out of that catholic bullshit. and I still hate you and every Georgian hates you and we will hate you for ever. you are stinky pigs. worse that pigs.
virtual7insanity 1 year ago
@virtual7insanity Now I can say that You are a fucking trash for being a hater. You should not represent your country. Flashback. Europeans like you ( your people) apartheid South Africans, enslaved Africans and kidnapped them to the USA to do the work for them and fuck them. All great wars started by your type of ignorant people. Heroshima is your deeds. killing the Palestinians, Bosnians and Herzegovinas ...killed Jesus and most of the previous prophets.what are you proud of?
caramale77 1 year ago
@virtual7insanity you hate us, so what? do we give a single care of that matter?
haterd will make old, sick ... etc, so it' syour peoblem not ours ...
gaqulin 1 year ago
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@virtual7insanity you hate us, so what? do we give a single care of that matter?
haterd will make you old, sick ... etc, so it's your peoblem not ours ...
gaqulin 1 year ago
boka benziyorlar
TurkishGirls2010 1 year ago
@GoaM6 These women are Arabs, pure, except for Queen Noor. She is part American. The others are pure Arabs. You have the misconceptions that Arabs are dark skinned. There are white skinned Arabs and dark skinned Arabs. Dark skinned Arabs you find them in Saudi Arabia and Yemen where there is constant sun and white Arabs you find them in Morocco, Syria and Lebanon where there is less sun and more moisture. God bless.
RassLkoumira 1 year ago
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ليش تنبنبع هذي وتعوج لسانها .... حكامنا وزوجاتهم صارو طماشه ولا يعبرون عن شعوبهم ولا لغتها ولادينها ... عجل ليش ظالين ف الحكم كاتمين ع انفاسنا هالاقزام المهزومين لا شرف ولا غيره ولا هوية ولا انتماء
حنى الحاكم ما يعرف عربي
mohad800 1 year ago
These women look as white as any european women. interesting
spiritwolf50 1 year ago
queen rania , is great.. i like her ..
randoxxxxx 1 year ago
@randoxxxxx Me too. She is amazing. A perfect sample of a great soul inside a great heart and brain. She is just awasome. All my respect for her.
kikiosh 1 year ago
excuse me the last queen/jordon i believe queen noor is AMERICAN
rita21200 1 year ago
@rita21200 You are mixing two things: Arab is a race, American is a nationality. You can be Arab and American at the same time. Instead of checking youtube, why don't you go have better education. You should know that there are many Americans who are Arabs. If you want to know who they are, type the Arab Americans in you tube search window.
couscouswoman 1 year ago 6
@couscouswoman i did go to school-ivy league-if u study socialogy ...were a person is from depends on three things 1-were u r born 2-were ur parents r from 3- were u spend most of ur time. queen noor born USA parents USA spent most of her life in the USA & has a home in virgina ....& in regards to me being on u tube seams like u spend more time on it then i do since ur probably on some countrys wellfare system making videos about arab womenPEACE from THE GREAT UNITED STATES
rita21200 1 year ago
I live in Virginia. LOL!
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@couscouswoman Arabs are their own distinct ethnic group but they are still part of the Caucasian classification just like white europeans.
LordMalice6d9 1 year ago
Arab is not a race. Arab is an ethnicity. Not in the same context as religion. But religion is not the only component of ethnicity. You also have origin and culture that count as ethnicity and Arab is an ethnicity. Single Language called Arabic, most are Muslim, but even those that aren't possess much of the same other cultural attributes, and they have a supra-national identity through the Arab League, which although heavily disorganized, it still functions as a Supra-nation like the EU.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin I agree with you. I am not arab. I am originaly from Spain and living now in Center America, but I was living in morocco for a while, and morocco is an arab country ... and you cand find muslims, christians and jews living together in armony and peace. All neighborns and all friends, all same ethnicity (you can find also berbers and qabils) and everyone has their own religion, as they want and prefer. Is a good sample of tolerance and peace inside an arab country.
kikiosh 1 year ago
You from Madrid?
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin
No, I am originally from Barcelona. I was born in Barcelona but I grew up in Valencia. Now I am living in center america, in a beautifull tropical country, since 18 years ago.
What about you??
kikiosh 1 year ago
Oh great, I am part Valencian. This makes us cousins.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@couscouswoman Actually, i would like to point out that Arab's are people who speak Arabic as a native language. Technically, it is not a race. However, with time, it has been dubbed a race due to the increasingly large number of people who speak arabic. Countries such as Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Saudi and so on are called Arab countries due to the fact that they are inhabited with Arabs and the constitution and so on are are drafted in Arabic. The same goes for Americans, they are not a race.
sudqi9 1 year ago
impressive point of view .. but the best reply for it would be one hell of a ROFL !!
theMuaDDiholic 1 year ago
للا سلمى وريثة الأميرة فوزية بنت فؤاد الأول :)
ArabObserver 1 year ago
La Reine de Jordanie est la plus belle des Reines Arabes
Feyrouz à un charme aussi remarquable
aziz5 1 year ago
Princess Salma is BEAUTIFUL
imanlines 1 year ago
First one she's Moroccan Princess wife of the king :) very beautiful
candyman220 1 year ago 7
0:29 is hot!
wwfewcwtnaecw 1 year ago
THE BLONDE ONE IS NOOR THE WIDOW OF THE KING OF JORDAN IAND SHE IS AMERICANNNNNNNNNNNNNN
FALTAWWS 1 year ago
@FALTAWWS yes she is , but queens noor back goround is a christian Lebanese
her grand father was Elli halaby who migrated from Lebanon to USA with wife elmas and two sons habib and najeeb who is the father of queen noor ,her real original name is LISA NAJEEB HALABY ., changed her name after she met with king hussian who was a friend of her father ,and he choose to call her a muslim name noor..
mima1234561 1 year ago
@FALTAWWS yes, Queen Noor is an Arab American her family is originally from Syria.
ArabObserver 1 year ago
1:11 <3
100qatarlove 1 year ago
she is really beautiful, just breathless, arabic women are incredible
travelingnomad1 1 year ago
song please? I like it!
thetealady66 1 year ago
@thetealady66 The song is called, I never die. It was made by two Moroccan Americans in a house in Southern California, with an electric guitar and a mac computer. You won't find this song anywhere except in another video called Moroccan Arabica, which was sung by a woman. This song is chosen to be played in a coming-up American movie, still in production.
couscouswoman 1 year ago
@couscouswoman what is the movie called?+++
dumnorkevi 1 year ago
@dumnorkevi The title is not finalized. Once it's finalized I will post.
couscouswoman 1 year ago
If greatness is to be a wife, sister or daugther of a ruler then no doubt they are greeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
kifali 1 year ago
who r they ??
im an arab
i dnt know them r they indians ??
jash1427 1 year ago
@jash1427 i know 2 of them the second one called the queen rania and she is Jordon's queen .the forth one called oum kallthum and she was a great egyption singer in da past
MrSmsm007 1 year ago
@jash1427 You don't know Um Kalthuom or Fairuz?1 Do you know who's Naseba bent Kaab and Hayat sindi? Or do you only know famous Arab men?
ArabObserver 1 year ago
@ArabObserver
hahaha thanks for ur comment
na bro i dnt know them and im not looking to know them
jash1427 1 year ago
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@ArabObserver
hahaha thanks for ur comment
na bro i dnt know them and im not looking to know them
jash1427 1 year ago
ntst be american
waynebensoni 1 year ago
I am going to hell but I want a good view before eI go
waynebensoni 1 year ago
She's my definition of MILF! ...
rofl
arrechavengo 1 year ago
who the hell are those a9ln i only know queen rania
SOLAMARLOVE 1 year ago
all these women are not arab race,berber,phenician,copt,arameen
annabachawi1 1 year ago
@annabachawi1 being arab is not a race/ethnicity its a language
fufmefeverybody 1 year ago
@annabachawi1 What your referring to are not races! Theses are ancient kingdoms and civilizations of the Arab ancestors. All theses successive civilizations took place on one area inhabited by a people with the same genetic fingerprint. Alexandria for example contains antiquities from all these kingdoms.
ArabObserver 1 year ago
nice thnx
88hudhud 1 year ago
هذولة مشهورات و ليسوا عظيمات
gubiharb 1 year ago
<3 MOROCCO <3 the country of peace and tolerance
Marocainementvotre 1 year ago
Fairouz!!!!!!!!!!! queen of everything
McR4EvEr13 1 year ago
A Rainha Rania a MAIOR EM TUDO RAINHA DO MUNDO!
Channelify 1 year ago
Except Egyptian ,other look like White women.
hhhrolling 1 year ago
@hhhrolling lol
I never understood the West's fascination with the shades of human flesh? How could you not take race into consideration when forming "ethnic" groups? Can we say that all the red heads in the world belong to one ethnic category? For us, if a non African man marries an African women, then all his children and his brother's children will belong to the same race. It is not about the color its about the paternal blood line. This is how it is with DNA ancestral testing as well.
ArabObserver 1 year ago
mosgt important one is umm kalthoum
osos1991 1 year ago
OMG we are proud of Sheikha Mozah & Queen Rania
Endlesslove1974 1 year ago
لولا وجود المراة لما احتجنا الى ازهر و شيوخ ازهر و فتاوى بايخة و بليدة ... لنعد الى واد الفنيات كما فى الجاهلية
ringoliveo 1 year ago
queen rania is the best!!! outside and inside
BettinaFromBrazil 1 year ago
Queen Rania of Jordan is the most beautiful :D
minniemouse477 2 years ago
queen rania is true beauty
Nazii230 2 years ago 7
otstoi
isike100 2 years ago
<3 Queen Noor <3 Queen Rania <3<3<3
jordanianandproud 2 years ago 2
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i notice two main types in the arabic-speaking world, the middle eastern semitic type, from Yemen to Syria, and the north african, hamitic type, from egypt to morocco.
and both types have a north/south scale of skin pigmentation. the fairest being in the north and the darkest in the south.
typically the north africans have skinny long faces and curly hair, while the semites have fleshy round faces and silky hair, as a general rule. also the N-A are a bit taller than semites, it seems.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
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mayberry0331 2 years ago
Yeah crap
RICKJAMES7 2 years ago
Rickjame, Crap is what comes out of your mom's butt.
RassLkoumira 2 years ago
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isnt that where crap comes from on everybody. Lol obviously your english isnt really strong and the fact that the truth made you cry.
RICKJAMES7 2 years ago
J1 (M267) Found frequently in the Arabian Peninsula, Dagestan, Mesopotamia, the Levant and Semitic-speaking populations of North Africa and Northeast Africa, with a moderate distribution throughout Southwest Asia
djiljilala 2 years ago 6
Voici la liste des premiers indigenes de la Lybie avant les berbers(source vikeapedia) :ADYRMACHIDAE,GILIGAMAE,ASBYSTAE,MARMARIDAE,AUSCHISAE, NASAMONES,MACAE, LOTUS-EATERS,GARAMANTES, GAITULIANS,
djiljilala 2 years ago 6
J2 (M172) Typical of populations of the Near East, Southeast Europe, Southwest Asia and the Caucasus, with a moderate distribution through much of Central Asia, South Asia, and North Africa
djiljilala 2 years ago 11
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allah the moon god doesn't like women who show off any skin
kamajiboy 2 years ago
They will be stoned for showing skin lol
worthalook2009 2 years ago
@worthalook2009
Go to hell
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago 15
Arab women just so awesome
ArabJinn 2 years ago
@AraboAlgerian2 , explique moi un peu , si je comprends bien tu accepte l'idée que la langue française se soit diffusée parmi les algériens, mais tu n'acceptes pas l'idée que la langue arabe se soit diffusée ainsi aussi, pour toi ceux qui parlent le français sont des francisés, mais ceux qui parlent l'arabe sont de vrais arabes. alors meme que le français n'a eu que 130 ans pour se diffuser alors que l'arabe se diffuse depuis 13 siècles ! qu'est ce que c'est que cette logique?
MrMassyle 2 years ago
Il y a deux langues MATERNELLES (j'insiste sur ce mot) en Algérie : l'arabe (ou ses dérivés dialectaux), et le berbere (et ses dialectes).
Est ce qu'il existe en Algérie, des Algériens qui ont pour langue maternelle le français? Qui pensent en français?
Permet moi d'en douter.
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
@AraboAlgerian2
le français est inclut dans ce que tu appelles l'arabe ou le berbère algériens , donc il est bien dans les langues maternelles, meme s'il n'est pas sous forme pure.
non, leur langue maternelle n'est pas le français, mais le français fait partie de cette langue maternelle .
MrMassyle 2 years ago
Donc non, ceux qui parlent le français l'ont appris à l'école, ils ne sont donc pas francisés.
Crois moi le français, en tant qu'ex-langue colonisatrice ( c'est un fait ) est en passe de disparaitre dans bcp de régions arabophones, au profit de l'arabe -bien sur- mais aussi de l'anglais.
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
@AraboAlgerian2 oui, le français est appris à l'école aujourd'hui et au temps de la colonisation, et il finit par faire partie du language, jusqu'à etre transmis directement à la génération suivante sans meme passer par l'école .
mais as-tu oublié que pendant des siècles, c'est l'arabe qui était appris dans les écoles en algérie? n'a-t-il pas pu se répandre de cette manière? surtout dans les villes et les plaines où l'instruction est répandue. moins dans les zones de montagne.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
@MrMassyle
"le français est appris à l'école aujourd'hui et au temps de la colonisation, et il finit par faire partie du language, jusqu'à etre transmis directement à la génération suivante sans meme passer par l'école . "
!!!!!!
Peut être chez toi mais pas chez moi. Le français est une langue étrangère, comme l'anglais ou autre, et avant l'age de 10 ans kes enfants ne parlent qu'une langue, l'arabe (dialectal).
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
DrMassyle, le francais ,on l'a appri a l'ecole , il ne s'est pas propage comme l'arabe au sein de la population. Moi meme, j'ai commence l'ecole en premiere annee primaire en francais mais je connaissais deja l'arabe grace au Djemaa ,Pour te dire quand j'ai eu mon Bac je ne savais meme pas faire une phrase ou ecrire une lettre correctmt alors ne dites pas que cette langue heritage colonnial s'est propagee' a tarvers le peuple, meme entre mes amis les cadres on en parle pas, alors assez SVP
djiljilala 2 years ago
@djiljilala
meme réponse que celle que je viens de faire à araboalgerian2. une langue pénétre très bien une population par l'école ou l'église ou la mosquée. et l'arabe a eu 13 siècles déja pour le faire chez nous.
exemple: la latinisation jusqu'à présent des populations de France , d'espagne , du portugal , anciennement des villes d'afrique du nord et de tout l'empire romain.
autre exemple: l'arabisation des habitants de la Syrie, de l'Egypte, de la Nubie (soudan).
MrMassyle 2 years ago
MrMassyle, supposons que ta théorie soit vraie, admettons là.
J'ai envie de dire : et puis?? ça change quoi concrètement?
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
@AraboAlgerian2 là tu veux changer de sujet , le sujet de la discussion que j'ai avec toi et djiljilala porte sur l'origine ethnique des arabophones algériens, et pas sur ce que ça change concrètement aujourd'hui. ça c'est un autre sujet.
je suis tenté de répondre à ta question mais je préfère qu'on en finisse d'abord tous les trois avec le premier sujet .
MrMassyle 2 years ago
Cette origine ethnique? tu y a répondu toi-même, elle est arabe par définition!
C'est comme si tu disais : quelle est la couleur du cheval blanc d'Henri IV ? LoL...
Une ethnie est d'abord définie par une langue mère.
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago 2
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@AraboAlgerian2 alors là tu as complètement changé de discours, c'est toi meme qui disais qu'ils étaient d'origine arabe, descendants des banu hilal et compagnie et arrivés en algérie au moyen age.
et maintenant tu me dis qu'ils sont berbères à l'origine et devenus arabes par vertu de leur langue? ok , mais il faut préciser clairement ta position. alors, en majorité d'origine arabe venus au moyen age ou en majorité d'origine berbère et arabisés?
MrMassyle 2 years ago
@MrMassyle
"maintenant tu me dis qu'ils sont berbères à l'origine et devenus arabes par vertu de leur langue? "
QUoi?? Sobhanallah, tu as l'art de déformer tout ce que je dis, je n'ai jamais dit une telle chose!
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago 7
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en effet, tu n'as pas dit exactement ça, désolé, mais tu l'as sous entendu, puisque tu as dit qu'on était arabe à partir du moment qu'on parlait arabe en tant que première langue. donc si quelqu'un est d'origine berbère ou espagnole et qu'il commence à parler arabe en tant que langue mère il devient arabe. ok, ça c'est ton point de vue et c'est un autre sujet.
mais notre sujet là c'est est ce que les arabophones algériens sont en majorité d'origine berbère ou venus d'arabie.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
Mr Massyle ,qui t'as dit que si un berber qui parle que de l'arabe ,on le prend pour un arabe. tu deconnes mais si il se prend pour un arabe c'est son choix ,j'ai des amis berbers qui ont seulement que l'arabe comme langue maternellle et qui jusque la' moi et les amis on les appellent Zwawas , Ca nous revient pas le droit de changer l'identitee des autres mais si il y a des arabes qui ont resides avec les berbers depuis 740 AD pour leur enseigner l'islam et qui sont devenu assimile C la vie
TheCourgettebedouine 2 years ago 2
the french language is well spread among the algerians, and nearly all of them use at least some french in their everyday language, and yet none of them is of french origin .
all this because french was the official language of algeria during 130 years, and the language of trade and education.
arabic had this same role during a much longer time, nearly 1000 years, so it is normal it would be well spread among the population. it doesn't mean they are arabs in origin, nor french.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
MrMassyle, you need to study some history. You see to be ignorant. Arabs came physically to North Africa. Do you understand what physically mean? They came and they penetrated. It was a part of the prophet's message; go out there and spread Islam. It was a duty for Muslim Arabs to spread Islam. What are you doing here in Arab site. Go to your french algerian site and write there. I can't believe you allowed the french to stay in your country for 130 years.
RassLkoumira 2 years ago
yes , and the vandals also came physically , so i'm a vandal of german ancestry . it seems that measure and proportion have no meaning for you.
then you start talking in degratory terms about algerians , saying this is an arab site and i have no place in it and other senseless blah blah blah , and frankly i have no time to waste with people of your class .
MrMassyle 2 years ago
@Massyle:Stop philospher avec les murs,comment tu oses dire ce qui rentre pas dans la tete.Tu penses que nous etions des Kabyles avec un teint blanc et apres etre arabises nous sommes devenus des bruns avec une nuance de couleur. A chaque fois je parle a' un etranger ou je fais une connaissance ,ils me prennent pour un arabe et qd je pose la question ,comment vous savez, ils me repondent que je ressemble a un arabien, alors que dire des maghrebins qui sont plus fonces que moi. Soyez raisonnable
djiljilala 2 years ago
moi je suis de l'est algérien, et croyez moi, les kabyles et les chaouis n'ont pas un teint plus blanc que les arabophones. c'est le meme teint et les memes tetes.
je ne sais pas de quelle région vous etes, mais les différences de teint existent meme au sein des berbères, suivant la région et le climat dans lequel ils vivent.
c'est vrai que si vous etes de l'ouest, les gens de l'ouest en général ont le teint plus foncé que les gens de l'est, excepté pour ceux de tlemcen et sa région.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
sauf mon respect, je pense que tu fabules complètement. de nombreux kabyles pourraient aisément passer pour des allemands
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
prend un paquet de kabyles et un paquet d'allemands , tu verras une grande différence! ne me parle pas de quelques cas individuels, on peut en trouver partout, des gens qui ressemblent à des allemands, en kabylie, à annaba, à sétif, et meme à biskra (abassi madani par exemple).
aussi le climat influence le physique et le teint, les gens du nord-est ont le teint plus clair en général que ceux de l'intérieur ou de l'ouest, c'est lié au climat. mais ils sont tous berbères.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
le français est plus répandu dans les régions berberophones que dans les régions arabophones c'est un fait.
outre les traits physiques, la génétique confirme une différence entre régions arabophones et berberophones!
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
@AraboAlgerian2 c'est faux. le français est plus répandu dans les grandes villes, et elles sont arabophones, il est peu répandu en kabylie, dans les aurès, et encore moins dans le mzab ou autre région berbèrophone de l'algérie intérieure.
donne moi cette étude génétique qui confirme cette différence, une étude génétique qui a été menée dans plusieurs régions d'algérie et qui montre bien une nette différence génétique entre régions arabophones et berèrophones.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
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hahaha tahamaw aalik massyle. Boumedienne est un bon exemple,lui meme amazigh koutama il voulait que cette identité amazigh soit rayée et c'est comme ca depuis des siecles.Ibn khaldun decrit l'assimilation des amazighs, elle se fait par des leviers politiques et surtout religieux et par amour pour le coran. C'est une question de temps pour que l'histoire soit connue et qu'on accepte que l'arabité n'est pas genetique meme si ils sont venus ils etaient peu nombreux .
delemalia 2 years ago
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ce n'est pas le sujet du débat , qu'on veuille s'arabiser ou pas c'est un autre débat .
mais comme tu reconnais que la majorité ethnique est d'origine amazighe alors nous sommes d'accord . c'est tout ce que je voulais prouver , contre ces falsificateurs de l'histoire qu'on trouve un peu partout qui viennent nous raconter que nous sommes tous d'origine arabique sauf pour quelques montagnards de tizi ouzou ou de batna . salut .
MrMassyle 2 years ago
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A mon avis les falscificateurs ne sont pas le commun des mortels mais bien les decideurs et l'histoire officielle enseignée a l'ecole algerienne ou maghrebine en general. Tout le peuple algerien au complet est spolié de son histoire.
delemalia 2 years ago
Tu ments Delaamia ,AHNA AL HAMDOU LILLAH, nous les arabes meme si comme tu dis nous sommes MAJMINoritaires , nous connaissons d'ou' nous venons , de la peninsule arabe ,nous sommes les descendants de Beni Hillel, Ban Maquil,Soleims,Qawm
Zenata,Beni Ameur,Zoghbas,Beni jabir,Beni Hattab et pour sur surtout pas de quelques ratissage de l'armee francaise durant la declaration de la Kabylie zone interdite et pendant laquelle des beaux gosses avec des yeux bleus ont ete ajoutes au melting pote d' ALG
djiljilala 2 years ago 11
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Tu es incapable de comprendre le concept de l'assimilation qui pourtant est decrit par les historiens et les sociologues et tu en es reduit a debloquer.Le menteur c'est toi, Honte a toi, car tu le sais que tu inventes des histoires sur les kabyles, qui sont beaux gosses(d'apres toi, cafard jaloux) et cela depuis l'antiquite. Parle plutot des oranais bruns zroguas,qui nous rappelle le passage des senegalais de l'armée francaise.
delemalia 2 years ago
it is true that a language spoken by a minority can hardly be spread among a majority, however, when that language is the language of the state things are different, the official language of the state tends to be spread among the population, simply because it becomes the language of trade and the language of education. just look at the french regions, they spoke different dialects, even germanic dialects like in alsace, and now all their people speak french, which was only the dialect of paris.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
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the arabs of arabia are a special race , they don't look like the different arabized populations of the middle east and north africa , presenting the arabized people as arabian race is really ridiculous .
i speak an algerian dialect of arabic , yet i look typically mediterranean from the latitudes of algeria , with a fair skin and a brown hair . you can't make me believe that i'm an arab , you can't at all . arabs are darker and quite different in features .
MrMassyle 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more! Arabia is Saudi, Yemen, and Oman and the Gulf States only. North Africa and The Near East should be renamed 'South Mediterranean' and 'East Mediterranean'.
jordanianandproud 2 years ago
Bullshit
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
Aren't you supposed to be talking French or Tmazighi or whatever it is anyway?
jordanianandproud 2 years ago
I'm supposed to SPEAK the language i want.
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
Well, then you can 'SPEAK' to the hand.
jordanianandproud 2 years ago
Huhh...... don't bother me again, please...
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
Then don't reply to my comments, or don't read them in the first place. Better most, keep your opinion to yourself next time.
jordanianandproud 2 years ago
OK mister... eastern-mediterranean
هاهاهاااااا
AraboAlgerian2 2 years ago
:) (:
jordanianandproud 2 years ago
@jordanianandproud -hey Mr Jordan we are so proud about our amazigh and arabic culture and we have a big white history , it's not our problem if you are ashamed about yours , we were always helping ottomans while sharif hussain was helping england against them , and his sons sold palestine to jews . there is a big differance between us and you so watch yourself when you talk about ALGERIA
jokerabed1 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 Jesus, with that tone of being defensive, no wonder you're trying so hard to proof something wrong.
First of all, the Ottomans were the worst thing to happen to our area, they brought ignorance and militaristic repression thus closing the borders and the minds of the people. Tell me, when did scientific research and genocide of minorities begin? When the Ottomans came. They didn't help Algeria because they like Algerians, its because they were shagging in politics and army with Spain
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 2nd of all, I'm not ashamed of my history, one ashamed of his history would try to cover it, and that's as far as it gets from what I'm doing over here. I have no interest in discussing politics of such matter because we all know that Sharif Hussein is from Mecca, not Jordan,3rd of all, he was manoeuvred by the Sykes Picot agreement. Check your history facts first before you make a complete ass of yourself.
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jordanianandproud Ottomans helped us because they would create a muslim khilafa and they did it , and they were never bad , but the history that you read in your books is completly wrong , the truth is that sherif hussain would keep the governance for himself and his children so he started a revolution against them , ottomans were here for more than 3 centuries , they helped us to build the army the economy , and there are a lot of people here who have turk origines live here
jokerabed1 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 Why of course, your people were the blind soldiers in that war against humanity! The Ottomans were savage and racist and they conducted a mass scale execution process in Beirut, Damascus, Nablus and Salt. They moved Turkish people in an attempt to Turkificate the land by removing the original people, which happened also in Armenia (Rings a bell?). Now the Turks are merely playing the football of Palestine just to regain some economic advantages to pull them out of the recession swamp
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 and last but not least, yes there is a big difference between us, that's why we don't want any sort of unity with your likes.
Remember Carthage? The daughter of Phonecia which brought civilization to your area? It was made by us, the Levantines, the sons of Phonecia, Ugarit, Ammon, Mo'ab and Nabatea.
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jordanianandproud Amazighs have their own letters for their language and it's called tifnagh (made by massinissa) and they had kingdoms and civilization before your "carthage" born , then catharge was in tunisia not in algeria , more over phoenicians were in lebanon not in jordan , jordan? what jordan? you were just a desert before 1922 , ghassanids who lived their were arabs , they were following romans , while our kings were dying when fighting against them
jokerabed1 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 We here in the Levant are not divided entities, we are one. I did not say either Jordan or Lebanon & if you think I did, check your eyes. And for your information, the 1st settlement in the world is Ain Ghazal in Jordan, Google it. Unless you know all fragments of history, don't boast about it. And while you're at it, fix your multinational identity problem and choose a side to stick to. Ghassanids are Semites, just like Jews. Would you call Jews Arabs just because they are Semites?
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jordanianandproud , NOW arabs want to return to the turkish role , you know what ? we are so proud because we helped ottomans in navarin (greece) battle and our army broke down their , when your people were preparing the revolution , the worst thing in that area was lawrance , wonder how one man deceived your people , he helped you against ottomans and he came with the british army to colonize you... and I won't talk about the modern history cuz it's "3eeb" as you say :)
jokerabed1 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 The hell we want to return to that rat hole of a country. Turkey is an obsessive racist country with the notion of the Turanid racial superiority that should direct its sails towards their 'borthers of blood' in Central Asia because that's where they belong. Lawrence of Arabia was a soldier and he was working in the best interest of his country, and because of the Age of Ignorance fabricated by Turkey, his works were successful.
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 Turks banned schools and took 7 of each 10 males to fight for their sick wars of power in the Balkans, they eliminated the notion of free thought and education, turned religious institutes to nothing more than media outlets for their campaigns, they oppressed Christians thus giving the opportunity to European sovereigns to barge in and offer their protection to Christian minorities. Turkey is not more than a double faced piece of garbage.
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
@jokerabed1 And please do go into modern history, I would love to throw your alleged facts back to the trash can, where they belong.
jordanianandproud 1 year ago
ma3aka al 7a9
pipical1 1 year ago