Did Tom Cruise Offer To Beat Disobedient Scientologists?

[jnycnuk]

The fenced property at Hemet is home to about 800 members of Sea Org. It is also where Miscavige keeps an office. According to the New Yorker, which has interviewed several dozen former scientologists as well as Haggis, leaders there are encouraged "to instil aggressive, even violent, discipline".

[thefist90000]

ugh!?//////////////

[blackwhimsy]

Well,his best friend Church of Scientology head David Miscavige beats his staff. According to various ex-COSers Tom is becoming more like DAvy boy everyday so it doesn't surprise me.

David Miscavige beats his staff. Pls google it.

[anonofetch]

@drewd and @Baker... you guys are agreeing. Sci is a criminal org. Drewd wants to make sure people do not join Sci and your argument is not helping his cause. Your argument looks like you are defending Sci.

I only have one question for Bakersfield. Are you saying that it is "ok" for Scientology to commit crimes because other religions have committed crimes?

[Tutarion]

Yea all us Christians fault. We're the opnes blowing people up for our beliefs lol

[Dr490n]

You're obviously not familiar with the history of christianity.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

Christians would be big hypocrits if they call Scientologists crazy. At least Scientologists never burned scientists, philosophers, or astronomers at the steak or caused massive crusades.

[kingazzaman]

Christianity was a reviled cult in the beginning also. I would add "yet" to your last sentence.

Check a CCHR (scientology front group) exhibition on psychiatry - it's the 21st century version of witch-hunt.

Scientology blames the Scientific community for "holding back" their "tech"

[drewd1987]

@BakersfieldGamer4u

Lisa McPherson and many others have died because of this FRAUD scientology.

When's the last time Christians actually did the stuff they used to be notorious for? Christianity has changed a lot.

This video is about SCIENTOLOGY and the shit they do.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@drewd1987 Like mclev said, ALL religions are the same shit, just different toilets.

[drewd1987]

@BakersfieldGamer4u

Scientology is MUCH different than most common religions. They TORTURE people. They disconnect families. They mentally and physically abuse. They have front groups. For anyone to think that Christianity comes anywhere close to how bad Scientology is, is flat out naive and hasn't done much research on the sadicstic cult.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@drewd1987 So does Christianity, people use that religion to hate on people ALL THE TIME in America, haven't you heard of the WBC or Mormons or Catholics. The difference is group numbers. You actually trying to convince me there is a BIG difference between those cults is simply amusing.

[drewd1987]

@BakersfieldGamer4u Yeah the mormons are pretty fucked up and so are the Witnesses, but Sci still takes the cake.

Go research sci's RPF, etc. I don't know of many other religions that literally keep people against their will and lock them in solitary confinement, and make them work 100 hours a week with 2 hours sleep a night.

[drewd1987]

@BakersfieldGamer4u I don't know of many other religions that have infiltrated over 100 government agencies and government around the world in an attempt to take over the world with a communist style brainwashed regime either

[drewd1987]

@BakersfieldGamer4u Christianity doesn't use NLP and lie detectors and various brainwashing techniques. They don't have fucking prison camps either.

I'm not trying to defend any religion, I'm just saying there is worse shit out there than what you're talking about.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@drewd1987 Your not going to convince me that one religion is crazier than the other. They both feed off the ignorance and stupidity of humanity. They both have brainwashed, killed, and tortured countless people in the past and will always continue as long as people don't wise up. You should do the same

[zzap999]

Christians are haters of perverts. Yup, they're hate mongers.

[zzap999]

No one forces you to be a member. If you willingly join this crazy cult and get ass raped then you deserve it.

[blackwhimsy]

@zzap999 That's not really fair. Firstly,what about the kids who are born into it? There are TWELVE YEAR OLDS who are threatened to be disowned and abandoned if they leave the church.They didn't ask for it. Secondly,when sci started,it represented itself as a selfimprovement/communication course,NOT a cult.They only became a 'religion' later to get tax free status.The info about the abuse being endemic wasn't out there.Thanx to the net, now people ARE saying away.(Few COSers are allowed online.)

[zzap999]

@blackwhimsy So child abuse is prevalent in Scientology?

[blackwhimsy]

@BakersfieldGamer4u Scientology locks you in the bathroom,makes you eat shit and say u like it. Trust me,it's waaaaaaaay worse than just about every other cult. They've done studies to know it takes a minimum if 8 yrs to recover mentally,psychologically,finan­cially from this cult. People who stop being christians walk away pretty much unscathed.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@blackwhimsy Look I was raised Catholic, I'm still trying to get over the dogma they tried to enforce on me. It takes a lifetime to get over the thought of hell and going there because you don't believe in a god. Scientology is a threat but Christians trying to call them out is one of the biggest hypocrisies I've ever heard.

[blackwhimsy]

@BakersfieldGamer4u That was 100s of years ago.EVERYBODY was pretty barbaric then. Christianity has largely reformed . Scientology has no intention of reforming ever.Google the following: RPF,the scientology prison camp.Reverse auditing,were they make you go insane. Lisa MacPherson who died under their abuse. Google Operstion Freakout,where they tried to frame Paulette Cooper. Google Operation Snow White,largest US gov't infiltration EVER. COS is FAR worse than you think it is..

[blackwhimsy]

@BakersfieldGamer4u No,they kill people in other ways. go to WHY ARE THEY DEAD SCIENTOLOGY. 100s of people have committed suicide or died in very iffy circumstances trying to flee the cult. They sue,harrass you,picket your house,threaten u if speak out against them.They force sea org females to have abortions. There are members who have been in their prison camps for yrs. Sure,Christianity has a bad history.People had courage to speak out and stop its worst abuses. Now its scientology's turn.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@blackwhimsy Christianity has a bad history HA, you think. Lets see what Scientologist do that Christians do. Brainwashing, what do you call Jesus camp and your attempts to brainwash gays into be straight. Mass murder, HELLO inquisitions and the crusades which costed millions of innocent lives (women and children), Scientology doesn't come close. Who cares what Scientologist do to people who leave, look what you do to non members today. You spread hatred, racism, homophobia, and worse ignorance.

[zzap999]

@BakersfieldGamer4u Scientologists never this those things because they never historically achieved the power status that Christianity has. Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire under Constantine. That's real power. Scientology is just a fad that's after the money of rich idiots like Tom Cruise.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@zzap999 I agree that Scientology is just a fad, thats why I believe they're no where near of a threat to the world then Christians. Christians have threatened almost all religions across the world, almost all continents from Africa to Asia was threatened by Christian invaders.

[zzap999]

@BakersfieldGamer4u The first 300 years of Chrisitianity was all preaching and willful conversion. If you read the book of Acts it was the Holy Spirit who convicted of their sins and led them to salvation. What happened after that is just nations like the Spanish, English who went out to conquer for materialistic gain. They would of done that whether they were Chrisitian or not. The fact they were "Christian" was because Christianity was already in their culture and traditions.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@zzap999 Only the leaders wanted materialistic gains and power not the majority of the people. The brainwashed people who followed the leaders wanted to get to heaven and thought by killing nonbelievers would get them there and thats what fueled the Crusades. Also the Christian obsession of conversion led to the deaths of millions by the spread of disease and wipping out anyone who didn't convert. Seriously face it, Christian imperialism will always be inbedded into the entire religion.

[zzap999]

@BakersfieldGamer4u All of those things you mentioned happened under a Catholic theocracy. Then came the Protestant Reformation led by Martin Luther to end oppressive theocracy . The freedom of religion, freedom of the press, individualism, minority rights, separation of church and state, etc. came from the Protestant Reformation. The forefathers of the United States were Protestants and that's why we have those rights to this day. Without the Reformation, America would be Iran.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@zzap999 The Reformation didn't give all those ideas you mentioned the Enlightenment did. European nations were still very theocratic during and the end of the Reformation, Protestans still believed in most if not all the things Catholic believed in which include war, imperialism, slavery, and of course theocracy which they brought to America. It took people in the Enlightenment like John Locke to bring the liberal ideas to the world which inspired our founding fathers to rebel not Reformation.

[zzap999]

@BakersfieldGamer4u You don't reach Enlightenment(18th century) when you are not allowed to question authority and old ideas during Reformation(15th century). Scientific discoveries had existed for centuries before Enlightenment within the church yet repressed for fear of going against the status quo. Protestants and Catholics agree on the fundamental doctrines of Christianity(nature of God, Christ, salvation, etc.). However, Protestants do not and never will believe in Apostolic succession

[zzap999]

The doctrine of Apostolic succession is the foundation for Catholic theocracy. Remember, the word "Protestant" comes from the word "protest". The word "protest" means to rebel, speak against, insult, question. Theocracy was the object of hatred and protest for Protestants.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@zzap999 My point is that all religions have created problems in this world one way or another. One religion attacking another for being crazy is just plain hypocrisy in my eyes. If Scientologists really do brainwash, torture, or kill anyone then they should be prosecuted like Catholic priests who are pedophiles but if most of them obey the law then noone should be making a big feakin deal about them.

[BakersfieldGamer4u]

@zzap999 I can I agree that both Reformation and the Renaissance movement brought more humanist ideals to the world but nothing really changed when it came to slavery, theocracy, absolute monarchy, and freedoms until the Enlightenment. But Prostestans did believe in theocracy and slavery at one time that is a fact, just look at our early history alone. The one great thing they did is that they rebelled agianst the corrupt Catholic church which kept Europe in the dark for so long.

[Humanist555]

The only difference between a science fiction writer like L.Ron Hubbard and the various bronze age mythmakers is he admitted to being a fiction writer BEFORE he created a religion.

[EyeLean5280]

Good one!

[drewd1987]

@Humanist555 Scientologists use brainwashing techniques. The cult makes all other religions look RELATIVELY sane.

[anonofetch]

I will have to mention that Scientology is not a religion. Calling itself a religion was a way for them to legit themselves. By being confused for a religion, they have people defending them. Even people who detest religions defend them now.

The US does not designate religions. Sci is a 503c non-profit org.

Scientology is a money making racket that charades as a religion for the tex exempt status. David Miscavige uses slave labor and mind control techniques to funnel money into his pockets.

[gymer15]

That little 5"6 155 ponder could not beat up his grandma dead or alive.

[Roew]

He will beat them up psychologically. Can't walk away from Cruise without suffering some form of mental damage.

[blackwhimsy]

@gymer15 He DOES beat up people. Google 'David Miscavige' beats his staff. He beat former OSA boss Mike Rinder over 50 times.

[gymer15]

@blackwhimsy I think your refering to beat off not up

[blackwhimsy]

@gymer15 Hee hee. Davey boy doesn't have to do it. He got rid of his wife in suss circumstance and put Uwe Stuckenbruck in the prison camp so he could boff his wife. As the head of this criminal cult Davey gets plenty of totty,despite being a pint sized fury.

. DM punches his staff. Look on YT for the Anderson Cooper show.. The only reason he gets away with it is because they're so chickenshit scared of 'excommunication' from the church.

[enemigosocultos]

LOL Tom Cruise's Jihad!

[mavaddat]

Too... many... pop culture... references...

does not...

make funny!!

[A86]

Don't fuck with Tom Cruise, man! It's Ethan Hunt!

J/K He's just a crazy cult member. What's he gonna do? Slap them with his limp wrist?

[drunkenboxer1985]

fail...fail...fail...

[johnny718bravo]

CULT!

[dizzymasekela]

Christianity, Islam, Scientology, the whole lot of them all are crazy bullshit.

[HitchensFanatic]

That sounds about right, coming from him. LOL

[mclev]

All religions are the same shit, just different toilets.

[suicidechickenshit]

Scientology is a financial scam like all religions and should be given the same tax status as health clubs, but it's founder didn't start the the religion as a sex cult like Joseph Smith (Mormons), David Karresh (Branch Davidians) or David Brandt Berg (Children of God). Sure, some celibate Roman Catholic priests molest alter boys or penetrate a nun-buns and Protestant clergy might screw their secretaries or parishioners. But it wasn't sanctioned like the original scummy LDS sex cult.

[hypnofan35]

Tom Criuse needs some crazy people to hang out with. It kind of takes the edge off of crazy, if there is a common circumstance of crazy to hang out with and be around. Take for example Rush Limbo, Sarah Paling, and Rupert "i'm comin' for you Murdoch" Murdoch. All those guys could be buddies, but they would probably have to wear helmets and carry clubs.

[manhattanwombat]

hail xenu!

[andyvigus]

Oh thats good.

[sawjac13]

You can expect to here that from someone who was in Vanilla Sky.

[ArtypNk]

I wish I could fight him.

[PopeKurt]

that was a good laugh, thank you.

[breaks0]

It's just not up to the standards of its predecessor, which I think may be the funniest headzup of all time. But ya, it's pretty good. :)

[MISSBEBEBLUE]

oh my god.......there are flying saucers everywhere!

[JustanOlfrend]

twpt....anarchists are always complaining about the President...go play war with ur Dick Cheney action figures...Losers

[martinaoe2]

I am from ireland

[martinaoe2]

Heads up report on obama being in bed with wallstreet. Look at the people who he has in office with him History will not look kindly.

[airborne373]

American Psycho = Tom Cruise

[deveousdevil]

lol, yea but i still like his movies.

[oddjob29]

first

[1tofallen]

@oddjob29 you where.

[oddjob29]

damn you pwnd me