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  • You are contending that because DDT has been banned from use, that millions have died from malaria. I would suggest many millions more would have died as the result of their exposure to DDT. We cannot arbitrarily spray chemicals into the world without understanding that some beneficial effect, may not be worth the permanent environmental impact. Carson proved that it be true of DDT. We should not use any product for it's short term effect, if the long term effect is bleak.

  • Gosh, Lee. Ever read that little book, 'Silent Spring', written by Rachel Carson in 1958? It may well have been the reason we STOPPED using DDT. Saying that using DDT in Africa would be helpful for mosquitoes and thereby, stop Malaria, is like saying shooting yourself from a cannon might get you to work quicker. DDT has been PROVEN to build up in the fatty tissue of creatures, including human beings, leading to cancers - breast, liver, pancreas, as well as cancer of the blood. Period.

  • @bboots100 Silent Spring was proven to be wrong, and Carson's ideas have killed millions of people.

  • @HowTheWorldWorks Lol yet no facts to back that up.

  • Stunning. Environmentalists don't care if millions die of malaria but they do if a few die of cancer. Even if anyone did die of cancer... Ugh... I don't know where to start. True environmentalists try to protect from negative externalities while weighing the cost of it. I don't know why some can't take responsibility for the externalities they create with their actions. It loses the spirit of the whole ideology. Weigh the costs people!

  • @fizzingwhizbeee Why is it ok that millions die from malaria but is a few thousand (hypothetical generosity) die from DDT caused cancers? So you want to support the solution that results of the most human deaths?? 97% of all animals that ever existed became extinct before humans existed, that's part of nature and so are we.

  • @weseyedwalk Um... no. I think it's despicable that enviornmentalists don't take responsibility for their actions even when they kill. I think it's despicable that when people hear DDT, they only think about the damn bird egg shells. I also don't understand why unborn eagles are more important to some of these people than unborn children, but those are not directly related. An enviornmentalist could in theory be pro-life.

  • @fizzingwhizbeee Oh I guess I'm barking up the wrong tree, sorry. 

  • @weseyedwalk Quite. No offense taken. I might be doing that on another thread. I had to ask for clarification. :-P

  • what an awful rebuttal, a bird laid thinner egg shells?  well fuck the people then, let them die, you truly are a dumb ass

  • This does not mean that liberals and environmentalists are clueless. Lee, stop being so angry. there is no need for it.

  • @daisymex Angry, you call someone angry for stating the truth? Wow you have issues, that was far from a display of anger. I suppose if anyone ever disagrees with you, you call them angry LOL.

  • @weseyedwalk . I don't have issues. Lee just acts like a know it all and it's annoying. The guy who debunked him is ok.

  • @daisymex that guy didn't debunk shit, I am not favoring anybody, just saying, this guys is wrong, Lee is right.

  • I have a hard time reading the likes and dislikes on this video, since its hard to agree or disagree with a message when the message is as confusing as this one, a debunking of a debunking of a video? I'm not the brightest of idiots, but I could see how this video is just flat out confusing and convoluted. for the first 5 mins or so I was convinced it was an anti-htww video, lol

  • conservative thoughts and opinions are obviously poisonous, let's ban them!!!!

  • 5:30 - so Atrazine is making gay people??

  • Wait... you're implying that DDT's corrosive effects on the environment is ok as long as it saves ppl from Malaria? If everyone followed that line of (near sighted) reasoning, then we wouldn't have much of a world to provide for the survivors...

  • @njintau Saving millions of lives in Africa and third world nations throughout the world is a cause worth the minimal environmental damage caused by DDT. Well, to conservatives at least. You do know that DDT is edible right?

  • @Protege385 Err I've not heard of that lol, I just remember the grainy footage of ppl wearing protective clothing when spraying DDT that I watched in one of my ecology classes. The fact of the matter is, it may help destroy Malaria and save lives but that means nothing if you're destroying the environment in the process. Its like "great the ppl are ok, now what kind of world are they gonna live in now?"

  • @njintau Please tell me you disagree with these statements.

    "small changes to the enviornment are worse than thousands dying"

    "unborn animals are worth more than a living human being"

    The people in Africa don't even get a chance to worry about cancer that maybe could come with DDT in small quantities because they're too busy dying of malaria. Weigh the costs. How many lives must one save to justify changing the enviornment? How much can you justify changing it to save a single life?

  • @njintau seeing as its a proven fact that in small doses DDT is less then harmful yes its worth using to save millions. i swear you fucking retards need to think a little. saving lives comes first and foremost. you are using an argument that has no basis in fact. we understand the mistakes we made in using ddt in the past and know how to properly use it now. but the left want to keep Africans dieing form something privileged fucks like you will never have to worry about.

  • We are all now a little dumber from listening to the descenders remarks.

  • How the world works is a douche.

  • "The total time to debunk the claims addressed in this video was approximately five times that in which it took for you to spew them." And it took HTWW a fraction of that time to annihilate the debunking.

  • The issues surrounding DDT the evironment and human development are far more complex than the highly partisan htww makes it out.

    If you are really concerned with the issue please do some research of your own.

  • this kid is an idiot, he reminds me of the guys on fox news. I think thats what hes aiming for. ps: please get rid of that tittle you have you idiot, "How the world works"??, where do you come off

  • How the world works is a genious, and a brave conservative who is not afraid to take on liberals. Subscribed, thumbs up, and faved.

  • @ManOfDeath567 The sooner we understand that NO ONE fits completely in either category like neat little cookie-cutter people, the sooner we can stop feeling the need to LABEL ourselves.

    I am an atheist. I am for gay rights. I am for the second amendment. I am pro-choice but against late term. I hate big govt. I believe in tough foreign policy but not preemptive war. I am against govt healthcare. I am against redistribution of wealth, I believe in low taxes. I want the Fed abolished.

    What am I?

  • @2eelShmeal a independant :)

  • yeah, howtheworldworks, how are you so dumb you couldnt predict that if you use ddt at 100 times the reccomended dose it would be bad for humans.

    And malaria is clearly an act from God, a form of punishment for walking in public without our faces covered. How dare you interfere, try to save the millions of people dying of malaria, a virus (or is it a bacteria? not sure) thats getting better and better at developing resistance to any known drugs.

    Keep doing what you do; i love your videos.

  • so a highschool kid makes a video against a highly respected person and lawyer. need i say more?

  • I think it was hillarious that this twerp called HTWW pompous and arrogant. This kid needs to look in the mirror and say that.

  • If he wants thisto be about debate then exactly why does he say facts don't matter? HTWW wins this round before it even starts.

  • My, you are DUMB, and think so highly of yourself.

    So, it is good to use DDt so 1 million are saved,...only to suffer from a number of diseases, and 10 million will suffer the immediate environmental consecuences, and 50 million suffer the linked effects. Not to mention all the other species.

    And by the way, DDt does not affect the insects as it used to it just does not work anymore.

  • 13 years olds watch stuff like this??? Wow I must've been stupid when I was 13.

  • I don't understand why HTWW can say that environmentalists isn't caring about the poor people in other countries. I am a environmentalist, and every organization I am a member in is supporting the ECOSYSTEM and THE LOCAL PEOPLE IN THE AREA! How can he say that environmentalists are rich people who just wants to keep their standard of living? Environmentalists volunteers for free mostly, and I thought it was the GW deniers who argued that the "green wave" would take their welfare away?

  • @GoSiv1 No one questions your personal goals. We question the motivation of your leadership -.-

    He's telling you the things he has seen; doesn't mean you you saw the same thing.

    I've seen environmental nut jobs all the time doing diabolical acts of pure stupidity; to be more macro, I can say without regret you are the cause for the massive oil prices and the desperateness of oil company CEOs.

  • @Scotish223332 I didn't say "personal" goal, I said the organizations goal.

    But ih he is telling you all the things he have seen, he haven't seen much good things. Nothing in the world is good according to him, just conspiracies and hoaxes.

    The only "nut job" I've seen, is our environmental ministers proposition to spend 500 billion crowns on a motorway, saying it is "environmentally friendly". But he doesn't care about the environment, that's it!

  • @GoSiv1 Which I said "leadership', your leaders who manipulate.

    I heard facts from a person who can say without regret, not the desperate ravings of a sniveling conspiracy nut.

    I clap at your open mind.

  • @Scotish223332 Yes, I agree that leaders can be manipulative. But your best friend can also be manipulative. If the whole scientific world and all world leaders are in a big conspiracy, then why do we have cars, airplanes, laws, infrastructure etc? Isn't the conspiracies trying to hurt us? Why are we using these machines, when they are made by people, trying to hurt us?

    I'm sorry to say it, but it is time to get out of the bunker. The only real existing conspiracy is the Heartland Institute.

  • @GoSiv1 We can choose to be leaders or followers, it's natural. Since I hate commanding and manipulating, I listen with a hard mind.

    Conspiracy theories are ideas of what is happening in politics, good or bad.

    :3

  • @Scotish223332 And I can say the same thing: Yes, they are the cause of high prices of oil, coal and gas, and THANK GOD for that, because we are addicted to those energy sources, and they are finite. What we want to do is to go beyond dirty, environmentally- and health harmful energy sources.

    And if we are responsible for high oil prices, then the rest of you are responsible for poverty in third world, unhealthy consumerism, overfishing, animal abuse, extinction of thousands of species etc.

  • @GoSiv1 Then the thing you should do is; find a really smart person that can turn Nuclear waist in energy and build more nuclear plants. . .but that is my thinking.

    Renewable energy and alternative energy is impossible to find; good ones anyway. Most stuff used too get such energy is either inefficient or way too expensive, even for a major company.

    I think companies have done better jobs at preventing all of that then most places are -.-

  • @Scotish223332 No, the thing I should do is: Find ways to use LESS energy in a sustainable way, which I am already doing. If anyone thinks that we can use this amount of energy we are using now, or even more, and call it sustainable - he is the nut!

    I do like your thinking though - that means that you at least care about the energy problem more than others here do.

    Are you suggesting that companies are bad at using renewable energy sources, or did I misunderstood?

  • @GoSiv1 That's impossible. As long as people persist to be. . .people, no one is capable of using 'less' of anything -.-

    The true energy problem is that of a growing overzealous environmental community over global warming.

    Companies don't see a profit nor a good reason to build or mass produce alternative energy sources. Too much too change. . .this isn't like the PC ya know, where people just bought a computer and can replace it easily if it's out of date.

  • More arguing.. Well done guys. You are both ignorant.

  • The relevance is that DDT usage has environmental, ecological, and health risks that are very detrimental. There are other ways with less risk and fewer drawbacks to combating malaria.

    You are distracting from the argument of DDT by pointing out a statistic that appeals to a emotional stimuli. DDT while cheap as many drawbacks that are detrimental to not only other species but our own.

  • @TheQuestioner132 Isn't a stat-athiest who uses a bunch of usually flawed stats to further there arguments?

    Or is it your term for mindless drone :/?

    

  • political jar gone ftw

  • wow, what an ugly christ fag. Encyclopedia dramatica has a whole article on this douchebag.

  • @louiscaponecchia Do something useful, go read a dictionary or a real book.

    (Ignorance ftw, You probably don't even know if he is christian or not)

  • @Scotish223332 You are scottish, which automatically makes you unevolved as most. I bet your head is as big as a street corner mail box. Anyways, you are defending a guy that is pretty much hated thruout all of the internet, and whos arguments are ripped apart and completely debunked and destroyed. Ever check THOSE out? Just look in the related vids to see your boyfriend get has ass handed to him. ;)

  • @louiscaponecchia I have, there all stupid. And this person is BELOVED by nearly every subscriber who ever. . .subscribed ;P

    Now your racist against Scottish? What happened to 'equality for all'? O WAIT! It's only for COLORED people! because everyone knows your instantly a african if your BLACK! Now get your ugly ass off the internet and go back to begging for kibbles from Amazing.

  • I've yet to see anyone actually SUPPORT the claim that DDT should be used in Africa. The positive claim is the one that requires evidence, people.

  • @mynameisdarthtater I support it. My economics teacher supports it.

    Theres 2. . . .

  • (cont)

    Now, if you or I were a small child living in Africa, what would you eat? Anything you could, really. Small game, grubbs, salamanders. If you're lucky some fruit. The reason I say this is to show that in Africa the human food chain is not separated from the animal one by a food processing industry. And that DDT would get into the human population, if it was used in Africa.

  • In my 10th grade biology class, we learned that as compounds travels around the food web, their concentration increases. Thus, the DDT put on the mosquitoes got into the frogs, then the foxes, and then the eagles. This was an example that was actually used.

  • The problem with using DDT (apart from all the negative health and environmental effects) is that due to DDT being used in large quantities in the past mosquitoes in many areas have become or are becoming resistant to DDT and so it useless in those areas. Something else to point out is that it doesn't matter if DDT is used in small amounts because it stays in the environment indefinately over time as it is used it just accumlates to larger and larger levels

  • gr8 vid dude.....keep bitch slappin these ignorant debunkers, youtube is filled with too many of them

  • I've always wondered why a lot of atheist channels are attacking a mostly political channel -.-?

    I've seen a number of videos on HTWW channel, and not one mentions religion -.-! I mean, wow? And they call me "close-minded".

  • @Scotish223332 They don't attack religion just because of religion, they attack religion because of the threat it poses to scientific and academic communities, in addition to free speech. They also attack those who misrepresent information, distort facts, and use techniques that are designed to silence the opposition (ie flagging campaigns, vote bots, and false DMCA claims.). They are defenders of logic, reason, the use of evidence, free speech, and honest debate.

  • @anubis9109 So there anti-dark age Vatican?

    I'm very certain religion (unless its super-radical islam thinking) has no effect on science (or actually has had major positive impact when the 2 work together). Gregor Mendel is a excellent example.

    The problem is; How are you sure atheists aren't doing the same thing?

  • @Scotish223332 Really, no effect on science????

    Let us ask Galileo, or Johannes Kepler, if they agree with you. A Major Positive Impact. I think any woman with empiric knowledge burnt for withchery will strongly disagree. Kepler, Mendel, and many others were believers. But that has nothing to do with religion and science "working together". Please give me an example of religion working with science.

  • @janover73 Mendel discovered his finding of genetics in a Monastery. . .

    i said when the two work together, not against each other -.-. . .

    Witch burning is irrelevant at this point.

    I can only deploy my Gregor Mendel argument at this moment, due laziness :3

  • @Scotish223332 Religion can have effect on science and secular societies in general when things like creationism is taught in schools, kids have to pledge to our nation "under God", and people are ridiculed and punished by masses for simply not accepting their beliefs.

  • @anubis9109 What's wrong with creationism?

    Actually, what is wrong with the pledge of allegiance? Does the very mention of the words 'under god' burn and melt you or something?

    The sad thing is, at least we do something good for this world. It truly is. I know of people superior then I going into countries were even mentioning christ is punishable by death and helping out people who are in need.

    No one is perfect, even an organization of christ. but at least we do something.

  • @Scotish223332 Call me close minded if you will, but I am not attacking anyone. I just cant stand someone pretending to be such a smart person, and being so off the mark. I am watching his videos, and I have not heard anything about religion either. Does that mean I have to listen to his pretentious and dumb arguments, and not say anything?

  • @janover73 As a person who agree what HTWW says, I would say your doing a duty to argue. However, I have a problem with people who spam anti-christian comments on a pure-political channel.

    Then again, no one is perfect :/

  • @Scotish223332 I am sorry, you "Would say I am doing a duty to argue"? Did not understand your meaning, please explain. And Also please let me know where is it that I am spamming a pure political channel -I also fail to see the politics here, the argument was health-environment, to my eyes. Am I antichristian? For saying DDt is such a lousy and useless response to malaria? Obviously I did not understand your reply, please comment

  • @janover73 I like people who argue about others :3, it's clears up political smog and faction based thinking.

    0-o, hmmm, It wasn't really directed towards you. . .it's me being universally annoyed at people. . .in general :3

  • @Scotish223332

    Many atheists are politically minded

  • @GenPhilosopher That makes sense.

  • @Scotish223332 - That's because modern atheism is tied directly to the Left going back to Rousseau. A line can be drawn through Rousseau all the way to Postmodernism. The modern (or Postmodern) atheist is invariably a political creature. They are moral collectivists, therefore they seek a political solution to all issues. As collectivists, they invariably side with the group which mimics tribalism. Group identity trumps reason resulting in tantrum politics.

    watch?v=Zw7sPq0ekIM

  • @thomaserossi This also makes sense >.>

    Thanks for da info mon :D

  • Hmm, the debunking video was not that good, but you clearly skewed information. For example, you say that 1 million people would die if DDT is taken out of use, as if it would be removed from use and replaced with nothing, which strikes me as a distortion.

  • @Grn0a

    Way more people died from malaria after it was taken out of use.

  • That doesn't address the dishonesty of placing a solid number on taking it out of use as if it would be replaced with nothing. That's obviously an attempt to add a hyperbole to try to enforce a view.

  • really? dude just google malaria death toll, even in economics class and in environmental science they discuss the death toll that malaria causes.

  • more time wasting....

  • Don't know. Haven't actually heard such claims from environmentalists.

    But I do believe that if we don't do something the climate will change and kill of many of the species living on the globe today.

    Some of the means could be Hydrogen cars (Honda FCX Clarity) and Fuel cell powerplant (possibly SOFC cells)

  • DDT never killed off malaria in Europe. The reason we don't have malaria mosquitos in Europe (at least in the northern reagions) is because the climate is too cold up here for the malaria to survive

  • He still did'nt debunk what Doren posted.

  • D:

    Could you even bother to look into the alternatives that USAID implemented instead of DDT?

    Geez. Condescending. How about a link to the original video? Something so others can see a view unbiased by you?

    Ugh.

  • GOOGLE: "Climategate"

  • LOVE IT!!!

  • Lol its funny how all of you get dragged into his brainwashing cospiracy bullshit without even a shred of research or evidence and follow him like a lost puppy he makes himself out to be something great which he is not , he is tricking people and you follow blindly.

  • This moron claims to know more about debating yet he is a liberal loon. they rants rave and whine all the time. PFFTT

    And his videos are crap. Wrong info, he talks about DDT then suddenly cats in Borneo? WTF? And he's more worried about birds eggs than malaria deaths. What a terd! GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS HTWW!

  • Im more of a libertarian/liberal hybrid.

    I was more commenting on other videos, and his personality in general... i am far from an environmentalist.

    There are alternatives to DDT though, such as sleeping nets, which im pretty sure have proven quite effective. Dont even need to kill mosquitos for them to work.

    But i also think certain species dont need to be kept alive if they aren't vital to the ecosystem. I just dont like that he seems to imply DDT is the only solution.

  • Sleeping nets are nice ..... while you are under them.

    Im sure people have to come out some time eh?

    Though, I do not know of DDT alternatives of the same scale, I would personally prefer to take the risk from DDT so that I do not die of Malaria and so that future generations do not die from it.

    Like I said, I do not know much about pesticides. But I highly doubt the negative effects linger after application is stopped.

    Whereas, the mosquitoes dont.

  • Im sure they get the majority of their bug bites when they are unconscious. If you have ever slept outdoors during the summer without a tent you wakeup with a million bug bites. During the day when you are moving around and slapping those suckers off you, you get bit alot less.

    Again i dont know enough about the subject... i was just saying there probably are alternatives. I also dont know the impacts of DDT. The ecosystem is a hell of a thing and the cheapest way isnt always the best way.

  • im not gonna debate you on this issue. I havent taken the time to look up the effectiveness of DDT or sleeping nets. I never claimed one was more effective than the other. I was just saying there are alternatives... that was my only argument... because the general idea of the video and commenter's was that DDT is the only method of combating malaria.

    DDT may very well be the best solution. Assuming the environmental impacts dont seriously disrupt the ecosystem.

  • Even before i posted the last comment i think i should have qualified it. I could care less about the environment... when i was talking ecological impacts i was speaking in terms of whether or not it would affect species that were part of their food source. Killing bugs, might kill bats, which might kill something else, etc. (its the damn food chain)

    Stupid worthless species like pandas, should die out. Im not an environmentalist.

  • lee got rocked on this, he actually fairs horribly when it comes to a debate. Hes always been a fact twister and his statements dont ever stand up to scrutiny.

  • You should seriously quit commenting on youtube because you tend to look like an idiot. The kid responding to Lee is just talking and praying that no one actually critique's him because his this kid's arguments are baseless, which has been clearly shown in this video.

  • That's a very accurate response. He clearly didn't have any arguments. Well done, HTWW :)

  • Your counter-critique is once again weak. Most of what you do is scoff. The only argument you have to stand on in this whole thing is regarding DDT, and I think you don't really care about the long-term effects of the substance. If we save 1 million people but then they can't reproduce or have too weak of limbs to work, what is the point? Citing one of several arguments (the cultural one) does not make it the primary argument, but is still valid despite your opinion that it doesn't matter either

  • Awesome, once again. Lee you da man.

  • HTWW, suddenly using DDT isn't going to save all 1million lives is it? Another one of your bullshit half-truths that scaremongering conservatives love to use. I don't know how many it could save, but say we use DDT, and it saves half that number. However, in 50 years, what if DDT has contaminated water supply in these areas, leading to most of the drinking water rendered undrinkable, leaving hundreds of thousands of people dying from drought? Or we could find a better solution for a long term?

  • Wow. I dont always agree with HTWW, but I do in this case. I am an environmentalist, but I am also a realist. Environmentalism is becoming the next religion, in that if an environmentalist says something is true, then it must be. Environmentalist also manipulate evidence in order to support their agenda. Global warming/cooling happen to the earth but not by humans. The sun and galaxy are mostly to blame. But environmentalist dont want you to hear that.

  • I think the point here to these environmental examples, HTWW, is that if we put any chemical in the environment irresponsibly, it could have unknown effects. Possibly causing the extinction of other species. Is there no value to the preservation of the biodiversity on this planet? Like all the dozens of combinations of interacting prices in the economy influencing each other. Is it also possible, with all the complex interactions of animals, that a species has an effect on some important to us?

  • Why do you delete posts?? and why do you lie all the time... Can you not hold your own with Logic??

  • DDT is not on official record for killing anyone yet dumb fuck lefty slobs want to kill people for population control.

  • DDT is nasty shit.. and we should be thankfull that it is not used anymore.. furthermore many insect pests have evolved resistance to it..

  • I KNOW. only OBAMA is a true patriot! Who else would have sex with Michelle Osama for this country (I mean ever since the Green Czar was fired) Lee would not made that type of sacrifice, DAM CONSERVATIVE.PEACE

  • This falsehood about ddt is probably in the grand scheme of depopulation of certain areas on earth.

  • so what about the ddt that gets washed in to the water supply? you can't tell me that that it is non harmful! so ddt helps save people. so dose nets?

  • What an ass clown.

  • you are an idiot and stop censoring ppl you asshat

  • Dude you're a joke and I think you know it.

  • FEAR THE BUNNY

  • HowTheWorldWorks would be a perfect fit for Fox News.

  • Agreed.

  • DDT would never kill all of the frogs and fish, idiots.

  • i dont know wtf are these people are talking about

  • I get SOME of it but that's because I haven't seen all of these video.... so far HTWW is KINDA weak because a lot of people disagree with him..I'm more of a TJ (the Amazing Atheist) supporter....*sigh* intellectual debates are the BEST...you learn a LOT!!!!

  • this dude is stupid!! he so wants to be a reporter! fag

  • Oh and, howtheworldworks... Frogs and certain species of fish are natural pesticides, without them not only will the ecosystem of nearly this entire country collapse it'll not only lead to all the DDT in the world not doing jack shit to their numbers, it'll also cause cancer and severe bone weakness.

  • 6:02

    WHAT!? WE NEED FROGS AND FISH FOR A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM YOU FUCKING ASS HOLE! AGH!!!! An ecosystem including HUMANS you stupid jackass... FUCK!

  • 4:01, yeah, who cares about our national bird... fuck you, ass hole...

  • I really wanna comment on each of your fallacious points but, to anyone intelligent it goes without saying... and everyone else here already has...

  • College students who think they automatically have all the answers = Epic fucking fail...

    You sir are an incompetent douche.

  • i could not agree more!

  • The fact he went to college DOES MEAN he knows a lot more than the average person. Do I agree with everything he says? ...of course not...but he does make a few good points...I am still trying to figure out which side of the debates are right.... so far I am swaying away from HTWW.

  • "...he does make a few good points"

    No, he doesn't...

    And no college does not mean you automatically smarter... he has proven time and time again that he is dumber than a post...

  • Ok, then let's use me as an Example. I have a 138 IQ, 4.0 GPA, speaks 5 languages and etc. I say that there was never a Cross Atlantic trade between the Americas and Africa and then you have some idiot who has never been to college and claims there is proof that there was... who are ya gonna beleive? Coughlan666 got "owned" by Howtheworldworks BIG TIME because coughlan666 assumed the constitution is just one page when in REALITY it's several pages.

  • Hey ass hole... that doesn't change the fact that HE'S AN IGNORANT MORON! He knows nothing of how things work... he thinks humans take precedent over entire species, even our own national bird... He thinks we can just do without other animals, and he thinks all environmentalists are fanatical morons.

    He's an even more retarded clone of rush Limbaugh...

  • If I were to believe you simply because you are intellectually accomplished, i would be committing a logical fallacy of argument from authority. The simple fact is that authorities can be wrong. Before believing you, I would check your background to see if you have any expertise in this are a of history, if you have a track record of being meticulous in checking your facts, if you are scrupulous about checking your sources, etc.

  • You are absolutely right, Authorities can be wrong indeed. But if you were to chose someone who is not educated and someone who is...you'd chose someone who knows more about this particular topic than the one who doesn't. To be honest..I am sad that coughlan666 got owned. I am gonna unsubscribe to HTWW 'cause I agree more with Thunderf00t.

  • It is true that a a person with proven expertise in a given area is more likely to be correct than someone who isn't. But it is also true that a newcomer to a topic can sometimes see things with fresh eyes, whereas the authorities have bcome stuck in some kind of rut.

    Bottom line - doubt is what gets you an education.

    Thunderfoot definitely knows how to present a logical argument backed up with evidence. HTWW has just never impressed me in a positive way.

  • I agree....but I am UNSUBSCRIBING from HTWW becuase teh moron was caught CHEATING with bots. he tried to talk his way out of it but he miserably failed.....he sickens me now....

  • Since the tf00t cheek beard the pirate morons know so much about this who is to say they aren't the ones making up the bots to get HTWW kicked off youtube? I never once heard HTWW ever try to shut up the left but the left really really really wants him gone. Almost all lefty facts are not even facts but bastardizations of facts molded into a cause, the more cycles this bullshit is ran the outragious it becomes.

  • I was there when AmazingAthiest and HTWW were "debating" (this was a few days ago). TJ went too easy on him in my opinion because thunderfoot did make HTWW look really bad with he fake accounts.

  • Who is to say who made the accounts just for this "agenda"? The lefties here are all deeply concerned and that should be a huge red flag right there. Anyone with any free will and 2 brain cells can see through cheek beard the pirates BULLSHIT.

  • Prove it.

  • Exactly prove any of the left wing cock smaking bullshit...LOL

  • Thunderfoot just did.

  • Blunderfoot can't even get past his cheek beard

  • Well if you disagree then prove him wrong. HTWW is pretty much losing this argument GREATLY

  • In your propagandist pea brain that maybe true, but look at the facts of the actual case at hand DDT didn't kill humans. They even had people lather up directly to the skin and they didn't die or get sick.

  • Did thunderfoot say that it killed humans?

  • The basis of it being banned had NOTHING to do with birds. DDT harming egg shells is also false...... Thudertits is irrealivent.

  • Actually that's not false at all...EVERYONE knows that DDT was harmful to Bird Eggs.

  • Oh? Many studies shown the reverse..everything from to thick of egg shells to too thin LOL but of course if you just show left wing lies of course you wouldn't know anybetter LOL

  • Umm speak 5 languages, IQ of 138 and I have a 4.0 GPA so... I don't need someone BELOW me in intellect to try to talk down to me. You are a lower lifeform.

  • Really? What school? National Idiots in Motion? I went to college as well ass hat, my only thing is I bet I went when schools were not dumbing people down LOL

  • Hmm I went to Houston Community College..then American Intercontinental University...I am to attend University of Houston and currently I am working to get my Scholarship to go to Tokyo University of Foreign Studies. You don't know anything about communism. The reason why communism failed so many times is because the ORIGINAL people who wanted it to work die and as a result..someone who is evil takes over...in order for communism to work, you need someone you can really trust.

  • They let you in public looking like that? LOL

  • Looking like a Native American?...umm this IS a free country after all even after your people came over and killed my people for no reason.

  • My people? LOL sure ass hat since you know so much tell me about my family history...as a matter of fact troll I could give you 10 guesses and I would bet you would be VERY wrong in each stereotype you try to put me under..nice try though racist!

  • I can say the same thing about you Judging my political beliefs =)

  • Not, calling you out on your bastardizing isn't judging and isn't racist, I attacked your idiotology LOL

  • You are calling me an idiot just because I am pro-communist..however..I am not pro-communist when it comes to the US government because we are NOT a poor nation. You are calling me an idiot simply becuase you disagree which is extremely stupid in your part.

  • I call you an idiot because your logic used is not a reality in what we are talking about. You are also an idiot because you seem to think I care about your background and being the idiot that you are wanted to gloat...which brings me to ask what alter reality do you live in?

  • The reality is that you are a right winged nut-job :D...I take no sides...I'm not an idiot.

  • Reality is you don't live in reality and you do take sides because you are a Marxist moron.

  • No, that's just an assumption you are making about me. I disagree with Castro, Kim Jung Il and Stalin. I am a supporter of Che Guevara, Ho Chi Mihn and FARABUNDO MARTI! They fought because they wanted to steal from the rich and give to the poor. They are White, Asian, and Native American heroes. Fine..I may be a bit biased about hem but they did fight for what is rich without a doubt.

  • No you are a Marxist LOL

  • No..I am a supporter of Communism, Oligarchy, Green, etc... a Marxist is someone who supports ONLY Marxism..but I support several depending on the situation..in the US case..I am a RON PAUL supporter who is a republican. You are a right winged nut-job for real HAHAHAHA. I find it amusing that people with low IQ's even dare to argue with me. I mean SERIOUSLY....you cannot outsmart a nerd.

  • Actually you do not have a high IQ at all, if you were half as smart as you claim your comprehension would be better instead of twisting what is said..BTW I didn't have to go to community college to get into Purdue and I could have went to several other schools before and after the fact.

  • I uploaded a video showing off my 4.0 GPA....I might do the same about my IQ test ;)

  • LOL go ahead makes no difference in your bullshit.

  • Actually it makes a WORLD of difference... people with low intellect 9like you) should stay in their palce.

  • Sure ass hat. Go make some art or something.

  • I already have... ;)...I am an artist afterall

  • Starving no less...

  • The fact is, you don't know anything about Marxism at all. The WHOLE concept of Marxism is to have every get paid equally... well as we learned, that doesn't really work so this is why I am a Democratic-Communist. Some people will get a bit more than others.....if anything...my favorite form of Government is an Oligarchy....IRONICALLY it's the same form of government that ruined my Parent's nation..go figure..I bet you don't know what an Oligarchy is HAHAHAH

  • You can apply Marxism to achieve your elitist goal, in fact it would be the way to attract minions to do so. Just like idiots think that fascist and socialist are so different yet was applied to Nazi Germany and Italy...It would also be interesting for you to explain how those countries in their time didn't have elite levels of people within them with a central ruler.

  • Fascism and Communism are not the same thing..... I really doubt you even been to college..much less GRADUATED from there.... Hitler HATED the Idea of communism... why are you Americans so uneducated?

  • So are you trying to say out of my examples I gave that tendancies were not socialistic and fascism?..tell me some history that is actually correct instead of bastardized...

  • Ok...Che Guevara, Ho Chi Mihn, and Farabundo Marti were ALL Marxists that wanted to FIGHT OPPRESSION!..Let me start with HO Chi Mihn...Vietnam was under control of the french and as we all know..the Vietnamese got tired of it and broke free...HOWEVER.... seeing how things were....there were several countries that wanted CONTROL of Vietnam. One of those countries was the United States of America.