STOP NOW,NOT GOOD: Mills are made to move at low RPM's(400:steel -1400+:wood) do to heating up your bit, and item; In fact, a rubber belt with a non-tengner pully track is not good. Example, all cars has a tengner on the alternator belt. Right! Thin small belts on a load in time will slip. As a consumer, I would infact rather keep what come with the item save money and save my warranty. Noise is not that bad use eye-plugs.$2.98 for a box of 50. I clean them with soap and use them agen.
I fitted this over 2 years ago. It has never slipped. Speed range is much improved. You can still run at low RPM I am not sure what point you are making there. I suggest you use coolant to stop your tool and work from over heating. The plastic gears that came with the item are notorious for breaking and are you really suggesting that worn plastic gears are more efficient than the belt drive that can be adjusted to the correct tension if required.
Thanks for the guide! I just put the belt drive in mine tonight. I wrecked something on the low gearing side in the head and decided to just get the belt kit without fixing the gears. :P I'm having my kit anodized blue to match the paint scheme.
Thought I would have more time before I needed to replace the plastic gear..hah! Only 2 weeks into using the mill I trashed it. While waiting for LMS to ship this kit, I have fully prepped the machine to add the new parts. Thanks for the great video, it shows how easy this really is to perform!
Great video! I will be getting an X2 shortly and converting it to CNC. And shortly after that, I will be converting to belt drive, because I just *know* that those plastic gears won't be lasting long.
Count yourself lucky that you had only ONE screw in US size. All our stuff in the US is sourced half from US manufacturers, half from the rest of the world, so we all have to keep both US and metric tools around :/
How good are the x2's as a machine? I want to mill some locks away but I've been using a massive Elliot and have been used to its accuracy & solid build quality. I just thought these things looked a bit flimsy. I'd like to know the opinion of someone that actually owns one though. Cheers
Having used quite a few mills from tiny to bridgport turret mills,these x2's arent that bad,solidly made apart from the plastic gears in the gearbox,noisy but functional.Good value for money but dont buy the quick release vice they sell for this as the one I had was miles out of square,you can get a metal gear set or fit the belt drive to eliminate the placcky Gbox.
Hey Silver, thanks for the reply! I got myself the x2 months and months ago! I must say I don't know what I was worrying about! It is perfect for what I do (see my other videos). I bought the quick release vice for it, but I've checked it about a hundred sweeps with line gauge and it seems to be ok. All my cuts are by eye, and so far (about 200 locks later) they have all been perfect. The belt drive kit is definitely something on the list for the future to make it quieter as it is very noisey!
I desperately want one of these kits,ordering as soon as possible,why does no one in the UK make or sell/stock them??Mind you they would probably charge £600 for the kit alone knowing this stupid ,greedy cuntry.
Hi hoarp001 Are you sure you've seen them in Axminster I rang them and they said they don't have any but are looking into maybe getting kits in the future.
@hoarp001 Sorry, I confused what you meant. You're right too, Axminster sell the SX2, which is essentially the X2 with a drive belt and a brushless dc motor.
@yefi2 Axminster had a few of these all set up, I go in fairly often as its near my fastenings place and its close to Subway(!). The staff in there have NO idea, all the machines are badly adjusted, wobbly gibs and loads of play in the wheels. I was testing the Z axis digital readout with some fag paper a while ago and the guy just did NOT understand what I was doing when he asked.They are good for wood carving, bad for machine tools, although easy to buy from there just dont ask questions.
Hi; Thanks for that, rather well put together demo and explanation, I have one of these mills (bought from aptc) and found an advert for this conversion kit on the net, but the advert in no way came close to selling it as you just did!
Hi, thanks for commenting on youtube. Whether you go for a lathe or a mill depends on what you want to make, how much experience you have and really your personal choice. I would go for a lathe if you are new to machining as it has more flexability and you will learn many new principles very quickly. Good luck with what ever you choose. Rich
i think im going to go for the milling machine but i dont know how to cut propeerly i seen them loads im on college doing engineering i just finished all my lathe work but i got a lot of paper work so i am not going on the miller till next november can u make a video on how to work the machine i have seen the same one as yours and i like it but i dont know how to use it pro style can u make a video on how to use it thanks like how to change cutting bits and how to mount your work pice and cutt
@pitbike2006 It is intentional, the plastic gear is replaceable and intended to break if there is a jam up thereby protecting the rest of the drive train from more serious damage.
interesting video, but one thing i noticed is the small amount of thread left when
large pully is fitted, is there enough thread for a full nut on the quill?
Geoff
1908ME1 7 months ago
STOP NOW,NOT GOOD: Mills are made to move at low RPM's(400:steel -1400+:wood) do to heating up your bit, and item; In fact, a rubber belt with a non-tengner pully track is not good. Example, all cars has a tengner on the alternator belt. Right! Thin small belts on a load in time will slip. As a consumer, I would infact rather keep what come with the item save money and save my warranty. Noise is not that bad use eye-plugs.$2.98 for a box of 50. I clean them with soap and use them agen.
Martuszewski 1 year ago
I fitted this over 2 years ago. It has never slipped. Speed range is much improved. You can still run at low RPM I am not sure what point you are making there. I suggest you use coolant to stop your tool and work from over heating. The plastic gears that came with the item are notorious for breaking and are you really suggesting that worn plastic gears are more efficient than the belt drive that can be adjusted to the correct tension if required.
richieT737 1 year ago 3
@Martuszewski I doubt plugging your eyes will make the machine quieter....
hoarp001 1 year ago
@Martuszewski lol, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Bmr4life 9 months ago
Thanks for the guide! I just put the belt drive in mine tonight. I wrecked something on the low gearing side in the head and decided to just get the belt kit without fixing the gears. :P I'm having my kit anodized blue to match the paint scheme.
slider7w 2 years ago
That will look good. Let me know if you post a picture of the anodized kit I would really like to see it.
richieT737 2 years ago
Sure thing, I'm dropping the kit off tomorrow at my work's machine shop.
Also the one thing I noticed on this kit was the M6 x 16 screws were too long when threading into my motor and bottomed out.
slider7w 2 years ago
Thought I would have more time before I needed to replace the plastic gear..hah! Only 2 weeks into using the mill I trashed it. While waiting for LMS to ship this kit, I have fully prepped the machine to add the new parts. Thanks for the great video, it shows how easy this really is to perform!
radiozener 2 years ago
2 weeks is plain bad luck. You will enjoy a huge improvement when your belt drive arrives though. Good luck. Rich
richieT737 2 years ago
Nice work! Thankks!
jbindics 2 years ago
Great video! I will be getting an X2 shortly and converting it to CNC. And shortly after that, I will be converting to belt drive, because I just *know* that those plastic gears won't be lasting long.
Count yourself lucky that you had only ONE screw in US size. All our stuff in the US is sourced half from US manufacturers, half from the rest of the world, so we all have to keep both US and metric tools around :/
autophile06 2 years ago
How good are the x2's as a machine? I want to mill some locks away but I've been using a massive Elliot and have been used to its accuracy & solid build quality. I just thought these things looked a bit flimsy. I'd like to know the opinion of someone that actually owns one though. Cheers
HiNtZzZ 2 years ago
Having used quite a few mills from tiny to bridgport turret mills,these x2's arent that bad,solidly made apart from the plastic gears in the gearbox,noisy but functional.Good value for money but dont buy the quick release vice they sell for this as the one I had was miles out of square,you can get a metal gear set or fit the belt drive to eliminate the placcky Gbox.
silver760 2 years ago
Hey Silver, thanks for the reply! I got myself the x2 months and months ago! I must say I don't know what I was worrying about! It is perfect for what I do (see my other videos). I bought the quick release vice for it, but I've checked it about a hundred sweeps with line gauge and it seems to be ok. All my cuts are by eye, and so far (about 200 locks later) they have all been perfect. The belt drive kit is definitely something on the list for the future to make it quieter as it is very noisey!
HiNtZzZ 2 years ago
Hi i am in uk so wherecan i buy this conversion kit and how much is it .
thanks
Wal
KRAKKERCOCO2 3 years ago
I desperately want one of these kits,ordering as soon as possible,why does no one in the UK make or sell/stock them??Mind you they would probably charge £600 for the kit alone knowing this stupid ,greedy cuntry.
silver760 3 years ago
Axminster sell these off the shelf. Theres a showroom in High Wycombe, you can walk in and buy one if you want.
hoarp001 2 years ago
ill look into that,ta
silver760 2 years ago
Hi hoarp001 Are you sure you've seen them in Axminster I rang them and they said they don't have any but are looking into maybe getting kits in the future.
onutube2 2 years ago
Yeah definitely there. They are renamed, with a different patinjob, but its the same machine. The one in high wycombe has them on display.
hoarp001 2 years ago
@hoarp001 I rang the High Wycombe store and they swore blind that they have *never* sold a Drive Belt Conversion for the X2...
yefi2 1 year ago
@yefi2 Axminster won't sell the drive conversion, as that's not made by sieg, they sell the milling machines.
hoarp001 1 year ago
@hoarp001 Sorry, I confused what you meant. You're right too, Axminster sell the SX2, which is essentially the X2 with a drive belt and a brushless dc motor.
yefi2 1 year ago
@yefi2 Axminster had a few of these all set up, I go in fairly often as its near my fastenings place and its close to Subway(!). The staff in there have NO idea, all the machines are badly adjusted, wobbly gibs and loads of play in the wheels. I was testing the Z axis digital readout with some fag paper a while ago and the guy just did NOT understand what I was doing when he asked.They are good for wood carving, bad for machine tools, although easy to buy from there just dont ask questions.
hoarp001 1 year ago
Hi; Thanks for that, rather well put together demo and explanation, I have one of these mills (bought from aptc) and found an advert for this conversion kit on the net, but the advert in no way came close to selling it as you just did!
morearrows 3 years ago
Hi there
Simple - informative - well presented
Hope to see a few more conversion from you
Marshall Engineering Technologist
hermies2b 3 years ago
yea love the machine but i wish thay made the machine with a belt drive WHY PLASTIC thay have that a on a lot of mini machines even lathes
my birthday is in september what should i get first miller or lathe i will get the outher on for christmas any way just dont know what to choose first
pitbike2006 4 years ago
Hi, thanks for commenting on youtube. Whether you go for a lathe or a mill depends on what you want to make, how much experience you have and really your personal choice. I would go for a lathe if you are new to machining as it has more flexability and you will learn many new principles very quickly. Good luck with what ever you choose. Rich
richieT737 4 years ago
i think im going to go for the milling machine but i dont know how to cut propeerly i seen them loads im on college doing engineering i just finished all my lathe work but i got a lot of paper work so i am not going on the miller till next november can u make a video on how to work the machine i have seen the same one as yours and i like it but i dont know how to use it pro style can u make a video on how to use it thanks like how to change cutting bits and how to mount your work pice and cutt
pitbike2006 4 years ago
@pitbike2006 It is intentional, the plastic gear is replaceable and intended to break if there is a jam up thereby protecting the rest of the drive train from more serious damage.
alfetta753 3 weeks ago