how about the during the long march between KMT vs CCCP.KMT was still exist in Taiwan. Do you remember the Mao Tse Tung and other Communism who rebelled the Chiang Kai Shek who President in China Republic. After defeated in mainland China they decided retreat in Taiwan. You ask aid to Taiwanese gov't to reclaimed the mainland China and restore Democratic before Mao Tse Tung and put the Taiwan (KMT) on the protest not the Red Flag. I hope you will understand
Look at the introduction. The one who uploaded this vedio even didn't konw that the 'June 4th affair' was happened at June 4th of 1989 instead of 1984. I deeply doubt that a lot people from west countries indeed know how much of China. You foreigners who know nothing about China have no qualification to criticise China!
I am not one of you but I want to help you Why u don't you ask the Taiwanese Gov't to send a military support before go to protest against Communist gov't in China to KMT was still existed.
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Stop speaking ill of the Chinese government! All children bodies in the square? Can you prove it? That's ridiculous!
The majority of the young generations in china support their government and love their country now. We live in China, we know the country and we love it very much.
This is insane.. I just did a random search for 4 June 1984 because it's my birth date, and i had no idea this happened on my birth date. I am so shocked
i'm not sure when it occured, if it was in 89 it was probably a typo in the description.. hmm anyway - when it occured isn't the point, i just can't believe this DID occur.. shocking, sad and such a waste
they killed them, when the students, parents and other civilians were at the center, then the police came and started to shoot no matter what, they even enter the buildings (houses) around and killed more people. So don't be in such panic, things like that happen everywere, instead be happy for this country, go and enjoy the great culture they have, Go China!!
There have always been massacres like this, EVERYWHERE!!! In México in 1968, there was massacre against college students and the government kill them all because the 1968 olympic games were on Mexico, so in order to avoid the world to see our problems,
i came back from beijing yesterday. the day before yesterday I was on the tian an men square but now that I see this I actually have gosbumbs and suddenly I feel cold. (I knew about the protests, but still it's harsh to see this, while the day before yesterday there was no sign of this visible on the square)
VERY VERY POUND TO BE CHINESE born in Hong kong!!!!!CHINA FOREVER!! to all my fellow chinese ppl unite !!! UNITE!!! we will become even stronger!! love your country. Dont ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country !!
Yes, you are right! Many people made stupid comments on this vid, but not very intellectual. We have to take care of Humanity, not that damn Power things!
Look. Tienamen was just one thing. More people dead in China in the 20th century. But. China was a nothing in the 1900s. The whites shared it like a big cake. The Japs did mass genocides in chinese soil. In 1945 the chinese "won" (!SOVIETS!) the war against Japan and communists won the civil war. Since then China's development is very fast. The soviets taught them a lot of things. But now China is the second power in the world after USA and in many things better than America.
ok I see that u are intelligent enough to realise that ALL governments are EVIL, not just e.g North Korea or Chinese or Cuba. In that case I support what your talking about. I'm just sick and tired of dumbass Americans who think Tiananmen Square is the ultimate evil and forgetting about issues like Iraq.
Look man. I totally agree with you. Chinese killing their own people is wrong. There were better ways of dealing with the situation rather than just killing people. Kinda funny. The Chinese are angry at the Japanese for Nanjing massacre, but Zieg Heil has nothing against Chinese for killing their own people. Don't even try to argue with a Chinese. MOST won't EVER listen to the truth and actually admit that their government did anything wrong. This is why Taiwan wants independance.
i'm chinese, my dad was there, he was the dude on the bycicle wheeling people away. but guys, you should look up japenese human experiments, much worse than the chinese civil war thing. men behind the sun, look it up on youtube and watch it even if its in a diffrent language, like part 4, just watch alittle, its horrifying and all true
i feel China is coming dangerously close to having their country ravaged by the global thieves. the communist party is responsible for China's growth, and wihtout it china will fall victim to predatory capitalism. more rights and responsibilities for the people in organizing a communal government is necessary, not allowing totalitarian market firms to plunder china.
feel sad about this. even though i don't agree with their beliefs, i am totally touched by those young people. anyway, what they did were all for china... they went to beijing with passion and courage, while their requirements for 'freedom' might lead china into another russia... sigh... let us remember those youth! let us avoid such kind of thing ever happening again in china!
I just want u to know that the protests didnt just last 1 or 2 days but rather a few months. In 1 case Wuer Kaixi threatened Li Peng by saying "if you do not comply with us, I can not promise you that the people will leave Tiananmen Square". There was much negotiation between students and the government. But the students went further by dealing 1st blood against soldiers. THE CCP did what was right at the time and that is to clear the protestors coz there was no other way
well..i understand how hard it was to build china. and those students and workers didn't ask for democracy, instead just few rights. and i understand that you guys love china and want to see it stronger. but don't forget that the rights you guys having now in current china would not be possible if 64 event didn't happen. actually, you don't need to praise those people, nor to disdain them. just show some respect. don't you feel so bad, when you see one chinese kills another?
all you guys are bullshiting! i sympathize those who sacrificed there, though i partially agree with communism. but it was totally wrong to murder those students, instead they should had had dialogues. understandings between each other is neccesary to build better world! ashame to all!
i hate communism but i agree, china is made for communism, and the chinese didnt have rioting equipment back then, they didnt know how to deal with that kind of situation. still, really bad. dont insulot the protestors though
The Liberal State is a mask behind which there is no face; it is a scaffolding behind which there is no building. -Benito Mussolini. China must not be allowed to become a Liberal state. Chai Ling must be incarcerated and beatened for trying destroying China!
All form of Liberalism is wrong, the Chinese were only protecting themselves at Tiananmen, the US were only protecting themselves at Kent State. The student protestors are terrorists, they killed Chinese soldiers. The Kent state students are terrorists because they tried to blow up an ROTC building. Terrorists should be killed.
HHE98, you are mere idiot! coz you don't understand the word "Terrorist"! defending one's beliefs is not Terrorism, and I'd rather call this as Patriotism! by the way, Chai Ling is just a bitch though.
what about the kent state students, and PUERTO-RICO KILLING OR THE TROOP OPEN FIRE IN TEXA. STAND UP -usa american stand up now against your country, your tax dollars that support the american troops in overses ,who rapes the young school girls(12-18) of their host country. recently in japan, and okinwan .WHY do america has large troops in over 40 country .THIS this american human right, also iraq RAPES men AND GIRLS/WOMEN.
your an idiot. i actually laughed. u realize yo ustarted this war. dont try and convince us to rbel. i love my country, and werent they punished? why dont you look up japenese human experiments and men behind the sun. watch it and you'll see the jap bastards doing stuff like putting chinnese into pressure chambers and literally smushing them or gassign them and throwing a cat to get eaten up by rats while still alive
I would like to tell u that my dad was there too. He was studying Electrical Engineering at Qinghua Univesity back in 1989. He told me that the incident was fabricated by Western media to cause anti communist sentiment within Chinese people.
USA in the name of the us govt, the american military, station thru out the world, in germany, england, spain, greece, italy, turkry, africa, japan. okinawan, thailand, hong kong, korea, singapore, vietnam, taiwan,rape the young girls of their host country, and recent rapr against the MEN&WOMEN of iraq. that so much american care about human rights since the korean war
FASCISTS. COMMIES, FREEDOM ARE ALL THE SAME, usa AMERICA HAS KILLING THE STUDENTS AT KENT STATE, and THE CITIZENS IN TEXA, ALSO freedom FIGHTER OF AMERICAN COLONY-PUERTO RICO,VERY POOR HUMAN RIGHT FOR NATIVE-AMERICAN INDIAN,BLACK, AMERICAN HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUT TROOPS (rape) IN ALL OVER THE WORLD, VOTING FOR ONLY A FEW(3) ASSHOLES TO BE HIGH PAY POSITION, THIS IS A ASSHOLE VOTING FOR ANOTHER ASSHOLES.THEIR IS MORE JAILS IN THE USA THEN CHINA. HUMAN RIGHT =ssi & public asst a "useless nation"
well i agree it is a shame on chinese ppl killing there own ppl but when you think about it, the students wanted freedom which mean they do not want communism any more, tahts like killing communism, what would u do if some one trys to kill you? would you fight back or just let him kill you?
I hear people bad mouthin' the Chinese Gov't ...If you take a look at America's gov't...they aren't perfect either. American Gov't has a very nasty closet
Mussolini government was not elected by people but was confirmed by a "plebiscito" or referendum. Anyway the award for authoritarian government or dictatorship goes to communism. Soviet Russia started well before fascism..
The only reason I said Fascists is because the Government in China is authoritarian with little respect for Human Rights. Neither Mussolini nor the Chinese government were elected by the people. They both believe they know whats best for their people, without the people ever telling them what they want. As long as the Chinese government doesnt respect its common man, they are neither going to get his respect nor that of the world's.
The only reason I said Fascists is because the Government in China is authoritarian with little respect for Human Rights. Neither Mussolini nor the Chinese government were elected by the people. They both believe they know whats best for their people, without the people ever telling them what they want. As long as the Chinese government doesnt respect its common man, they are neither going to get his respect nor that of the world's.
In fact, US government is New Fascists. The Bush administry is created by Right wing thinkers, militarise, industrialists. and in fact, US government DID open fire on its own people before in history.
the kent state massacre was no where on as large a scale as what happened in tiannemen square. 4 people were killed and the US government did not send in tanks and soldiers with specific orders to kill anyone that got in their way.
They're communist, what are you expecting. Russians can send millions to labour camp and starve them to death, so can Chinese run over their ppl in square. But America is a "Democratic" nation, there're differences
please note, this demo was going onfor many months,because no one in the commie party want to take action , chinese learder has just past away.china was a nation without a leader,the student stop this nation for 4 months yes, just like kent state and texa national guards troops open fire against unarmed citizen/student, america ,china, russia did this for CONTROL peace on earth.
Rape of Nanjing? Did the commies do that? I lost 11 uncles and aunts to the occupation. Every person I know whose family was from Japanese occupied land lost over half of their immediate family. Try to deny that it happened, and you're either a fool or the lowest of liars.
Is there a monument in China to the soldiers who killed those people in the square? Do chinese pray to them for being brave as they killed defenseless people? Are they glorious heros to the chinese?
if the soldier dont follow the order, they will be punished. that law of militry everwhere. i think 4689( the day i born) happens because some people are afraid to lose ther powers and they rather kill people for that.
blame the poltics. not the people, cause chinese people obviosly against the hole thing. i a GB documentry about the beijing people gave army food and water. you can see tear in both eyes. soldiers are most from the villagers doesnt want to hurt anyone, but order is a order.
If they want to destroy CCP, the Amry definitely would open fire. You can't expect to kill a person without any resistance. I sure in China most people, farmers and workers stood on the government's side. This is the reason they only gathered 1 million people in a 14 billion people country. Do you think appreciate their effects? Hell no! They are the traytors of China. They deserve the punishment.
Yeah, it's an ugly thing. You will find few educated chinese that think that situation was handled right.
As for Japanese coming on here to show just how bad china was by posting misleading statistics showing how communism killed 76 million people; I have this to offer:
Though i was only a teenager at that time, I had my own judgement. I feel sorry for those senior students, but at the same time I dun think their way was wise. They had passion to change the country but chose the wrong way. They acted like little kids wanted candy; they believed the governmental agitprop in the culture revolution and the communist party's fairy tales; they believe chinese government was their MOM....
Regardless of whether their way was "wise" or not, they did not deserve to be massacred. What's most upsetting about this today is not only that the CCP government still does not admit any wrongdoing, but they are brainwashing students to believe that it wasn't a big deal.
To Rasinbread. Whether you had thought you have been for cheat by Communist Party of China's education and the books? In fact the Communist Party of China instills into your the truth from the education
and the books is wrong! In addition must drive out the citizen to be allowed to use the rubber bullet or the force water column, but drives out the citizen with the real bullet and the tank is the cruel behavior
Of course, a mob of people, how can u tell who u shoot in a mob? A mob is a mix of trouble makers and innocents. The government JUST HAVE to stop the riot, in order to keep the country growing and lot letting people blocking the streets, burning the stores, and destroying public transport. Im not defending a governments horrible acts, but telling the truth on what ur education and books said WRONG.
Sorry Raisinbread. Your making excuses for "The People's Government". You know as well as we do that using military to shoot at unarmed civilians (protesters or not, it doesn't matter)is wrong. Your using the same excuse that the central government may have used. Nice propaganda but not applicable.
I am sure that you are chinese fucking net policeman. Always spread rumors. 8964 is a massacre and all the world know it. It is not deniable. Don't be a clown anymore.
Dont need to use bad language ur teacher taught u. Im not saying ITS NOT A MASSACRE pea-brain. I said it wasn't a peaceful riot, the students caused disorder, and if they arent stopped den there can be possibilties that the government will be overthrown. And ur 36 years old. Go help C0mm!3-h4t3r$ somewhere else.
to clear out and crush the protests, was when they finally got violent. This was only after the army brought in tanks and troops, completely surrounding Tiananmen Square, then firing into the throngs of people, with assault rifles, mainly troops were equipped with AK-47s, this was against unarmed peaceful protesters, they shot without mercy, bodies of victims were burned in mass grave piles. Even worse families of victims were sent bills so they could pay for the bullet that killed there
Oi, which government want to be overthrown? None, thats what the government gotta do to riots. My grandfather know what happened at Tiananmen Square, what happened was the soldiers shot those WHO WERE causing total disorder in the country. Not blindly shooting students WITHOUT mercy. Tu sound like another Jap.
As a matter of fact, being as my own father was in Beijing when Tieman Square Inncident occured, I've been taught the truth behind it. It is lies to say that the soldiers shot only at those who caused trouble. Spraying rounds of ammunition into throngs of people in my books counts as basicly massacuring them. End of story. And what is worse is that you defend a governments actions, trying to justify such a horrific act.
All you people need to understand before you say such atrocious and vaguer statements, such as these. You must understand the situation, that these students peacefully protested in Tiananmen Square, not committing any violence, not even when the military entered to subdue the protest did they act violently, it was only after the declared martial law upon Beijing, and the 27th and 28th Armies of the Peoples Liberation Army were sent in
The Japanese despises IsseiSagawa that is Psychopath 's bizarre murder and there is an unpleasant hating. Please do not say Japan preparing a maniac example.
I see, that's why the textbook written by tsukurukai (the distorted one) was virtually laughed out of print in Japan. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_government-approved_Japanese_history_textbooks listed under 'Fusosha').
Facts are facts, only 0.04 percent of Japanese schools use distorted nationalist text books. Whereas 100 percent of Mainland Chinese schools use distotred nationalist text books. I know, I was in one such school.
自由属于人民.不属于打压言论,封锁网络,欺骗人民的人渣. 爱国不爱人渣政府
yunsuiwuyue 2 years ago
英雄
woepanda 2 years ago
SB....就兩個字。
seanfubing 2 years ago
中国人的事情只有中国人自己说了算,只能用中国自己的方式解决,这是内政问题,自由也好,民主也罢,必须服务于稳定,必须要让中国有强有力的凝聚力进行国家建设和民族复兴,再也不能让外国人指指点点,说三道四。赢得民族独立,不依附于外国是中国人民用血换来的成果。
sisterliuliu 3 years ago
中国人的解决方法。靠武力镇压,屠杀,封锁信息,洗人民的脑。是吧?在汉族居住地中国人自己说了算我们都无所谓。但你们汉族要记着!西藏,新疆等少数民族地区,中国人伤害藏族维族,我们世界国民绝对不能袖手旁观!
etoile8848 2 years ago
美国人就是幕后黑手~~~
haobowansui 3 years ago
how about the during the long march between KMT vs CCCP.KMT was still exist in Taiwan. Do you remember the Mao Tse Tung and other Communism who rebelled the Chiang Kai Shek who President in China Republic. After defeated in mainland China they decided retreat in Taiwan. You ask aid to Taiwanese gov't to reclaimed the mainland China and restore Democratic before Mao Tse Tung and put the Taiwan (KMT) on the protest not the Red Flag. I hope you will understand
Allan050372 3 years ago
Look at the introduction. The one who uploaded this vedio even didn't konw that the 'June 4th affair' was happened at June 4th of 1989 instead of 1984. I deeply doubt that a lot people from west countries indeed know how much of China. You foreigners who know nothing about China have no qualification to criticise China!
durmty 3 years ago
Where does it say 1984?
I hear 1989 and see 1989...
h6489 2 years ago
S/he changed her/his introduction after my comments!
durmty 2 years ago
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Nicocheshire 2 years ago
人必自辱而后人辱之,国必自伐而后敌伐之。
Nicocheshire 2 years ago
shame on chinese government
messihardaway35 3 years ago 7
Listen to Chinese Student
I am not one of you but I want to help you Why u don't you ask the Taiwanese Gov't to send a military support before go to protest against Communist gov't in China to KMT was still existed.
Allan050372 3 years ago
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Stop speaking ill of the Chinese government! All children bodies in the square? Can you prove it? That's ridiculous!
The majority of the young generations in china support their government and love their country now. We live in China, we know the country and we love it very much.
elisa1122334 3 years ago
The song means the students when singing about "children". What's wrong with that?
migao 3 years ago
放屁!
bullshit,I'm a young man in China,I love my country,but I'm disgusted with the Communist Party very much!!!
zhlei616 3 years ago 3
中国要发展,必须稳定,尤其不能出现内讧,西方不能用自己的价值观去看待中国,稳定压倒一切,一切破坏稳定的必须镇压!
sisterliuliu 3 years ago
照你这么说,为了稳固政权什么都可以做?
zhlei616 3 years ago
民主和政治永远都是统治者的玩物
对于我来说,活下去才是最重要的
Democracy and politics are always the toys of dominator
To me,stay alive is more important than anything else
DustNBonescn 3 years ago
lol now this has the virtue of pissing me off...though actually the sad illustration of human decedence
Drakenora 3 years ago
谢谢他们了!! 他们不会白白牺牲的!!中国政府更定会变的!!
wssz111 3 years ago 5
历史不会遗忘他们!他们是中国伟大的英雄!
AlevenChen 4 years ago 3
好卡......
chinafighter 4 years ago
I'm communist but I condamne this massacre and the others "communist" massacre....... in favour of a true democratic socialism!!!!
Xaarquath88 4 years ago 2
communism will never be democratic, a Socialist Democracy would work like a Union, which is generally corrupt at the top level.
woodman19 4 years ago
This is insane.. I just did a random search for 4 June 1984 because it's my birth date, and i had no idea this happened on my birth date. I am so shocked
thekasskass 4 years ago
it occurred in 1989 not in 1984 right? why does the singer sing about "the spring of 1989"
ag15ui11na19ldo80 4 years ago
right, 1989..
GRAMERCS 3 years ago
it was '89 - i believe it was a typo in the narrative.
finch6789 4 years ago
i'm not sure when it occured, if it was in 89 it was probably a typo in the description.. hmm anyway - when it occured isn't the point, i just can't believe this DID occur.. shocking, sad and such a waste
thekasskass 4 years ago
Good video!
We must confront the History.
Remember the BLOOD ON TIAN-AN-MEN SQUARE,
Remember JUNE 4TH MASSACRE !!
da167168 4 years ago 2
I just don't know why many young chinese still trust Chinese Communist !
It is ridiculous isn't?
中国人太可悲了!
gufe2 4 years ago
they killed them, when the students, parents and other civilians were at the center, then the police came and started to shoot no matter what, they even enter the buildings (houses) around and killed more people. So don't be in such panic, things like that happen everywere, instead be happy for this country, go and enjoy the great culture they have, Go China!!
sweetangel890 4 years ago
There have always been massacres like this, EVERYWHERE!!! In México in 1968, there was massacre against college students and the government kill them all because the 1968 olympic games were on Mexico, so in order to avoid the world to see our problems,
sweetangel890 4 years ago
fuck the one who is singing in this video
ferrariboy1983 4 years ago
i came back from beijing yesterday. the day before yesterday I was on the tian an men square but now that I see this I actually have gosbumbs and suddenly I feel cold. (I knew about the protests, but still it's harsh to see this, while the day before yesterday there was no sign of this visible on the square)
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suiteblockster 4 years ago
顶了
woepanda 4 years ago
I cannot imagine why this video is restricted. The only thing objectional about it is the comments from viewers.
sebastian122 4 years ago
Every country on earth has gone through, civil wars, revolutions and killed it's own kind! just to name a few:
American civil war to free the black slaves
The french revolution
The IRA in the UK and "brave heart" Scotlanders!
all the above wars, revolutions and movements resulted in death and violence.
What's so amazingly different about Tiananmen Square that so many likes dwelling on it? Just another sad part of the world history!! MOVE ON ppl!!
popoTb 4 years ago
this part of our history has past!!!!
JUST LIKE THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR TO FREE THE BLACK SLAVE!!
AMERICAN WHITE MEN KILLED, RAPED AND TORTURE BLACK SLAVES BACK IN THE 1800'S IN AMERICA!
IF AMERICA HAS CHANGED, SO CAN CHINA
popoTb 4 years ago
SO RIGHT! CHINA HAS CHANGED
revoltac1210 4 years ago
and anybody remember the waco massacre in the 90s? they were protesting against the U.S. govt.
revoltac1210 4 years ago
I do i do!! I remember
I am very proud of being a Chinese! Amd i am glad that we share the same feelings!
popoTb 4 years ago
Thx for your understanding!
popoTb 4 years ago
VERY VERY POUND TO BE CHINESE born in Hong kong!!!!!CHINA FOREVER!! to all my fellow chinese ppl unite !!! UNITE!!! we will become even stronger!! love your country. Dont ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country !!
popoTb 4 years ago
可惜至今还有很多国人不知道这段历史!!!!尤其是84后出生的!!
ultras110 4 years ago
America dogs, you should think about the people in Middle East who are abused by your goverment and soldiers.
hualushui 4 years ago
功过得失,后人自有评判.
fzgAABB234 4 years ago
我呸!! 这些人,受千刀万剐都不为过,用那么多无辜的学生的血 为自己的利益铺路!!!!
cq20061 4 years ago
死掉的学生是牺牲者,只可惜那些真正的祸首 都潜逃国外,多年后还声泪俱下的向外国媒体讲述在自己在中国为了"自由"而"抗争",受到"迫害"的悲惨遭遇...
cq20061 4 years ago
不错,是有很多无辜的学生被打死,在冲突中丧生, 可是!~ 这仅仅是执政者的错吗??是残暴??只能说学生盲目的被利用,执政者当时也出于派系的争斗中,恰恰这情况被利用了, 学生是受害者,但我也记得, 当时杀军警,烧军警的 也是一些 所谓的学生干出来的
cq20061 4 years ago
不错,是有很多无辜的学生被打死,在冲突中丧生, 可是!~ 这仅仅是执政者的错吗??是残暴??只能说学生盲目的被利用,执政者当时也出于派系的争斗中,恰恰这情况被利用了, 学生是受害者,但我也记得, 当时杀军警,烧军警的 也是一些 所谓的学生干出来的
cq20061 4 years ago
It was 1989.
kevinivers 4 years ago
"On the 4th June 1984, at the Tiananme"
It's 1989. ^^;
hirokache 4 years ago
原来可以打中文。。。晕。。。thx
Timkok621 4 years ago
one country ,two system
wiil be best!
HeavenlyDumpling 4 years ago
到底是什么东西使这样的悲剧发生,我们是因该警惕的
auznde 4 years ago
我不知道他们为什么会死,但是我知道一定是政治问题,作为个中国人我在这里为他们感到难过我会在心里默默的祭奠他们的灵魂,一个时代总有一个时代的无奈,一场政治惨安 带给我们的不仅是批评更多的是教训和经验 我深深的爱我的国家 就象美利坚人民爱自己的国家一样 不管他有怎样的
auznde 4 years ago
我是个中国人我从小的时候就知道天安门事件但也只是略晓 没有教科书上面告诉我们在天安门上究竟发生了什么 我的父亲只是告诉我那里曾死了许多大学生,
auznde 4 years ago
i dont think though i am a chinese student we have many poor people and many problem to be solu
auznde 4 years ago
Yes, you are right! Many people made stupid comments on this vid, but not very intellectual. We have to take care of Humanity, not that damn Power things!
sonofburma 4 years ago
A bunch of idiots.
qwertworld 4 years ago
China owns USA big time, it s a fact!
cedrik2002 4 years ago
WuT Fuhrer BUsh looooool
cedrik2002 4 years ago
Look. Tienamen was just one thing. More people dead in China in the 20th century. But. China was a nothing in the 1900s. The whites shared it like a big cake. The Japs did mass genocides in chinese soil. In 1945 the chinese "won" (!SOVIETS!) the war against Japan and communists won the civil war. Since then China's development is very fast. The soviets taught them a lot of things. But now China is the second power in the world after USA and in many things better than America.
PvMikhail 4 years ago
iraq is so pointless but bush made it so its hard to have an exit plan.
stunashv 4 years ago
ok I see that u are intelligent enough to realise that ALL governments are EVIL, not just e.g North Korea or Chinese or Cuba. In that case I support what your talking about. I'm just sick and tired of dumbass Americans who think Tiananmen Square is the ultimate evil and forgetting about issues like Iraq.
nickoteen13 4 years ago
Look man. I totally agree with you. Chinese killing their own people is wrong. There were better ways of dealing with the situation rather than just killing people. Kinda funny. The Chinese are angry at the Japanese for Nanjing massacre, but Zieg Heil has nothing against Chinese for killing their own people. Don't even try to argue with a Chinese. MOST won't EVER listen to the truth and actually admit that their government did anything wrong. This is why Taiwan wants independance.
Alias1983 4 years ago
i'm chinese, my dad was there, he was the dude on the bycicle wheeling people away. but guys, you should look up japenese human experiments, much worse than the chinese civil war thing. men behind the sun, look it up on youtube and watch it even if its in a diffrent language, like part 4, just watch alittle, its horrifying and all true
stunashv 4 years ago
i feel China is coming dangerously close to having their country ravaged by the global thieves. the communist party is responsible for China's growth, and wihtout it china will fall victim to predatory capitalism. more rights and responsibilities for the people in organizing a communal government is necessary, not allowing totalitarian market firms to plunder china.
jklasdfjdfksl 5 years ago
feel sad about this. even though i don't agree with their beliefs, i am totally touched by those young people. anyway, what they did were all for china... they went to beijing with passion and courage, while their requirements for 'freedom' might lead china into another russia... sigh... let us remember those youth! let us avoid such kind of thing ever happening again in china!
guihw 5 years ago
actually, people should stand aside of students at that time. if so, fewer lives would be lost.
sonofburma 5 years ago
I just want u to know that the protests didnt just last 1 or 2 days but rather a few months. In 1 case Wuer Kaixi threatened Li Peng by saying "if you do not comply with us, I can not promise you that the people will leave Tiananmen Square". There was much negotiation between students and the government. But the students went further by dealing 1st blood against soldiers. THE CCP did what was right at the time and that is to clear the protestors coz there was no other way
nickoteen13 5 years ago
well..i understand how hard it was to build china. and those students and workers didn't ask for democracy, instead just few rights. and i understand that you guys love china and want to see it stronger. but don't forget that the rights you guys having now in current china would not be possible if 64 event didn't happen. actually, you don't need to praise those people, nor to disdain them. just show some respect. don't you feel so bad, when you see one chinese kills another?
sonofburma 5 years ago
yes,we are geting stronger and stronger,chinese will work hard and get back eveything belong to us.
Theworldofchina 5 years ago
all you guys are bullshiting! i sympathize those who sacrificed there, though i partially agree with communism. but it was totally wrong to murder those students, instead they should had had dialogues. understandings between each other is neccesary to build better world! ashame to all!
sonofburma 5 years ago
Americans are sooo naive. Chinese PLA killed a few hundred lawless protestors and terrorists in order to restore peace to China.
Long live China, the PLA and the Communist Party of China! Without it, we are sure to fail
nickoteen13 5 years ago
i hate communism but i agree, china is made for communism, and the chinese didnt have rioting equipment back then, they didnt know how to deal with that kind of situation. still, really bad. dont insulot the protestors though
stunashv 4 years ago
The Liberal State is a mask behind which there is no face; it is a scaffolding behind which there is no building. -Benito Mussolini. China must not be allowed to become a Liberal state. Chai Ling must be incarcerated and beatened for trying destroying China!
HHE98 5 years ago
All form of Liberalism is wrong, the Chinese were only protecting themselves at Tiananmen, the US were only protecting themselves at Kent State. The student protestors are terrorists, they killed Chinese soldiers. The Kent state students are terrorists because they tried to blow up an ROTC building. Terrorists should be killed.
HHE98 5 years ago
HHE98, you are mere idiot! coz you don't understand the word "Terrorist"! defending one's beliefs is not Terrorism, and I'd rather call this as Patriotism! by the way, Chai Ling is just a bitch though.
sonofburma 5 years ago
Freedom doesn't come for free..
songkyunghan 5 years ago
to keep li peng the idiot, they killed so many innocent students. horrible communism...
PRCsucks 5 years ago
what about the kent state students, and PUERTO-RICO KILLING OR THE TROOP OPEN FIRE IN TEXA. STAND UP -usa american stand up now against your country, your tax dollars that support the american troops in overses ,who rapes the young school girls(12-18) of their host country. recently in japan, and okinwan .WHY do america has large troops in over 40 country .THIS this american human right, also iraq RAPES men AND GIRLS/WOMEN.
cheukfaiyuen 5 years ago
your an idiot. i actually laughed. u realize yo ustarted this war. dont try and convince us to rbel. i love my country, and werent they punished? why dont you look up japenese human experiments and men behind the sun. watch it and you'll see the jap bastards doing stuff like putting chinnese into pressure chambers and literally smushing them or gassign them and throwing a cat to get eaten up by rats while still alive
stunashv 4 years ago
I would like to tell u that my dad was there too. He was studying Electrical Engineering at Qinghua Univesity back in 1989. He told me that the incident was fabricated by Western media to cause anti communist sentiment within Chinese people.
Japanese people are the ultimate fuckers.
nickoteen13 4 years ago
USA in the name of the us govt, the american military, station thru out the world, in germany, england, spain, greece, italy, turkry, africa, japan. okinawan, thailand, hong kong, korea, singapore, vietnam, taiwan,rape the young girls of their host country, and recent rapr against the MEN&WOMEN of iraq. that so much american care about human rights since the korean war
cheukfaiyuen 5 years ago
FASCISTS. COMMIES, FREEDOM ARE ALL THE SAME, usa AMERICA HAS KILLING THE STUDENTS AT KENT STATE, and THE CITIZENS IN TEXA, ALSO freedom FIGHTER OF AMERICAN COLONY-PUERTO RICO,VERY POOR HUMAN RIGHT FOR NATIVE-AMERICAN INDIAN,BLACK, AMERICAN HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUT TROOPS (rape) IN ALL OVER THE WORLD, VOTING FOR ONLY A FEW(3) ASSHOLES TO BE HIGH PAY POSITION, THIS IS A ASSHOLE VOTING FOR ANOTHER ASSHOLES.THEIR IS MORE JAILS IN THE USA THEN CHINA. HUMAN RIGHT =ssi & public asst a "useless nation"
cheukfaiyuen 5 years ago
well i agree it is a shame on chinese ppl killing there own ppl but when you think about it, the students wanted freedom which mean they do not want communism any more, tahts like killing communism, what would u do if some one trys to kill you? would you fight back or just let him kill you?
transvirus 5 years ago
I hear people bad mouthin' the Chinese Gov't ...If you take a look at America's gov't...they aren't perfect either. American Gov't has a very nasty closet
MASSIVE100 5 years ago
Hey ugly guy!
fhfsngnb 5 years ago
get lost li peng
kalliahohoho 5 years ago
the song is sad
erinpilla 5 years ago
Mussolini government was not elected by people but was confirmed by a "plebiscito" or referendum. Anyway the award for authoritarian government or dictatorship goes to communism. Soviet Russia started well before fascism..
gianca60 5 years ago
The only reason I said Fascists is because the Government in China is authoritarian with little respect for Human Rights. Neither Mussolini nor the Chinese government were elected by the people. They both believe they know whats best for their people, without the people ever telling them what they want. As long as the Chinese government doesnt respect its common man, they are neither going to get his respect nor that of the world's.
arjjin 5 years ago
Communism is shit. Jus look at this. (Its not fascist, thats also bad, but Its not fascism)
rufo3 5 years ago
i feel sad for the poor mother who is crying for her children.
Piagetbaby2005 5 years ago
Fascists? The people republic of china is fascist?
gianca60 5 years ago
The only reason I said Fascists is because the Government in China is authoritarian with little respect for Human Rights. Neither Mussolini nor the Chinese government were elected by the people. They both believe they know whats best for their people, without the people ever telling them what they want. As long as the Chinese government doesnt respect its common man, they are neither going to get his respect nor that of the world's.
arjjin 5 years ago
how can the world trust a government that kills its own people. fascists!
arjjin 5 years ago
In fact, US government is New Fascists. The Bush administry is created by Right wing thinkers, militarise, industrialists. and in fact, US government DID open fire on its own people before in history.
pg955203 5 years ago
the kent state massacre was no where on as large a scale as what happened in tiannemen square. 4 people were killed and the US government did not send in tanks and soldiers with specific orders to kill anyone that got in their way.
cspan0 5 years ago
They're communist, what are you expecting. Russians can send millions to labour camp and starve them to death, so can Chinese run over their ppl in square. But America is a "Democratic" nation, there're differences
pg955203 5 years ago
please note, this demo was going onfor many months,because no one in the commie party want to take action , chinese learder has just past away.china was a nation without a leader,the student stop this nation for 4 months yes, just like kent state and texa national guards troops open fire against unarmed citizen/student, america ,china, russia did this for CONTROL peace on earth.
cheukfaiyuen 5 years ago
im very sad to see chinese's army use for kill chinese people. just like someone put his penis into his asshole ~~
f23gy 5 years ago
What Is That Song?
StarWars117 5 years ago
Rape of Nanjing? Did the commies do that? I lost 11 uncles and aunts to the occupation. Every person I know whose family was from Japanese occupied land lost over half of their immediate family. Try to deny that it happened, and you're either a fool or the lowest of liars.
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
Is there a monument in China to the soldiers who killed those people in the square? Do chinese pray to them for being brave as they killed defenseless people? Are they glorious heros to the chinese?
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
sad to see chinese killing chinese
trek4623 5 years ago
nah..chinese always kills their own ppl for fun. It's been in the history all along. read ur history text book carefully.
wongm17 5 years ago
if the soldier dont follow the order, they will be punished. that law of militry everwhere. i think 4689( the day i born) happens because some people are afraid to lose ther powers and they rather kill people for that.
477605598 5 years ago
blame the poltics. not the people, cause chinese people obviosly against the hole thing. i a GB documentry about the beijing people gave army food and water. you can see tear in both eyes. soldiers are most from the villagers doesnt want to hurt anyone, but order is a order.
477605598 5 years ago
You said: "in order to keep the country growing and lot letting people blocking the streets, burning the stores, and destroying public transport."
Why students blocked the streets and destroy public transport? Because they know that Communist Party's Army are gathering in the suburb.
Students didn't burn the stores, Don't spread rumor!
So, I am still sure that you are fucking Chinese net polieceman.
fancrazy 5 years ago
If they want to destroy CCP, the Amry definitely would open fire. You can't expect to kill a person without any resistance. I sure in China most people, farmers and workers stood on the government's side. This is the reason they only gathered 1 million people in a 14 billion people country. Do you think appreciate their effects? Hell no! They are the traytors of China. They deserve the punishment.
shunters 5 years ago
As you see, when they finally figured out the government was not their mom and got their ass kicked, it was too late.
Neither side is completely right. It's like watching headstrong parents beating up their overindulgent kids... expect it is pretty bloody
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
WTF? Somebody else used my username and account. What is this crap?
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
oh, that was my wife. ok.
Yeah, it's an ugly thing. You will find few educated chinese that think that situation was handled right.
As for Japanese coming on here to show just how bad china was by posting misleading statistics showing how communism killed 76 million people; I have this to offer:
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
Though i was only a teenager at that time, I had my own judgement. I feel sorry for those senior students, but at the same time I dun think their way was wise. They had passion to change the country but chose the wrong way. They acted like little kids wanted candy; they believed the governmental agitprop in the culture revolution and the communist party's fairy tales; they believe chinese government was their MOM....
So they acted excessively in this protest.
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
Regardless of whether their way was "wise" or not, they did not deserve to be massacred. What's most upsetting about this today is not only that the CCP government still does not admit any wrongdoing, but they are brainwashing students to believe that it wasn't a big deal.
danzeth 5 years ago
I was in Beijing at that time. My school is very close to TianAnMen, so I have sent food and water there a few times before the state of siege.
BeerMan5000 5 years ago
曾有外國人說:要談民主就不要當中國人.
這句話在1989/6/4的天安門學生的爭民主運動中 能充分證明.
多少的學生在解放軍的槍口及砲口下為爭民主 而丟掉生命.
難道當中國人真的不能享有民主?也許從5000年 到至今真的就是如此.
不論你的看法立場如何,都該先靜靜想一想.
中國不該有民主嗎?該有什麼樣的民主?或是現 今的所有中國人已享有民主了?
subrine 5 years ago
To Rasinbread. Whether you had thought you have been for cheat by Communist Party of China's education and the books? In fact the Communist Party of China instills into your the truth from the education
and the books is wrong! In addition must drive out the citizen to be allowed to use the rubber bullet or the force water column, but drives out the citizen with the real bullet and the tank is the cruel behavior
subrine 5 years ago
BE REALISTIC "RASINBREAD"......
do you know the process of the whole issue? it is the government who send the TANKS and RIFLES to the Square.
and the students had NOTHING really harmful in hands.
is that a riot? or is it a peaceful march?
when did it turn to a riot? before the army comes or after?
BE REALISTIC!
monkeybsw 5 years ago
The students destroyed blocked roads, causing traffic, and some public transport were pushed over.
Rasinbread 5 years ago
Damn it! Those were not students, but just local thugs. Students didn't do those things. Don't disfigure heroic protest.
sonofburma 4 years ago
Of course, a mob of people, how can u tell who u shoot in a mob? A mob is a mix of trouble makers and innocents. The government JUST HAVE to stop the riot, in order to keep the country growing and lot letting people blocking the streets, burning the stores, and destroying public transport. Im not defending a governments horrible acts, but telling the truth on what ur education and books said WRONG.
Rasinbread 5 years ago
Sorry Raisinbread. Your making excuses for "The People's Government". You know as well as we do that using military to shoot at unarmed civilians (protesters or not, it doesn't matter)is wrong. Your using the same excuse that the central government may have used. Nice propaganda but not applicable.
scottpiusz 5 years ago
I am sure that you are chinese fucking net policeman. Always spread rumors. 8964 is a massacre and all the world know it. It is not deniable. Don't be a clown anymore.
fancrazy 5 years ago
Me? Im not a Chinese net policeman, you puppet of Imperialism.
Rasinbread 5 years ago
Dont need to use bad language ur teacher taught u. Im not saying ITS NOT A MASSACRE pea-brain. I said it wasn't a peaceful riot, the students caused disorder, and if they arent stopped den there can be possibilties that the government will be overthrown. And ur 36 years old. Go help C0mm!3-h4t3r$ somewhere else.
Rasinbread 5 years ago
U people, every country will massacre civilians to stop riots if the civilians doesnt give up.
Rasinbread 5 years ago
曾有外國人說:要談民主就不要當中國人.
這句話在1989/6/4的天安門學生的爭民主運動中 能充分證明.
多少的學生在解放軍的槍口及砲口下為爭民主 而丟掉生命.
難道當中國人真的不能享有民主?也許從5000年 到至今真的就是如此.
不論你的看法立場如何,都該先靜靜想一想.
中國不該有民主嗎?該有什麼樣的民主?或是現 今的所有中國人已享有民主了?
subrine 5 years ago
to clear out and crush the protests, was when they finally got violent. This was only after the army brought in tanks and troops, completely surrounding Tiananmen Square, then firing into the throngs of people, with assault rifles, mainly troops were equipped with AK-47s, this was against unarmed peaceful protesters, they shot without mercy, bodies of victims were burned in mass grave piles. Even worse families of victims were sent bills so they could pay for the bullet that killed there
Mc12racer 5 years ago
Oi, which government want to be overthrown? None, thats what the government gotta do to riots. My grandfather know what happened at Tiananmen Square, what happened was the soldiers shot those WHO WERE causing total disorder in the country. Not blindly shooting students WITHOUT mercy. Tu sound like another Jap.
Rasinbread 5 years ago
As a matter of fact, being as my own father was in Beijing when Tieman Square Inncident occured, I've been taught the truth behind it. It is lies to say that the soldiers shot only at those who caused trouble. Spraying rounds of ammunition into throngs of people in my books counts as basicly massacuring them. End of story. And what is worse is that you defend a governments actions, trying to justify such a horrific act.
Mc12racer 5 years ago
All you people need to understand before you say such atrocious and vaguer statements, such as these. You must understand the situation, that these students peacefully protested in Tiananmen Square, not committing any violence, not even when the military entered to subdue the protest did they act violently, it was only after the declared martial law upon Beijing, and the 27th and 28th Armies of the Peoples Liberation Army were sent in
Mc12racer 5 years ago
this became a riot and the soldiers did their job
Maxula 5 years ago
silly chink , roflmao
chinasucks 5 years ago
The Japanese despises IsseiSagawa that is Psychopath 's bizarre murder and there is an unpleasant hating. Please do not say Japan preparing a maniac example.
stalvfon 5 years ago
>JAP999
Your country does the following now.
http://www.dajiyuan.com/gb/5/10/20/n1091427.htm
If such a thing is carried out in Japan, a prison is closed and a prison guard is arrested. Primarily it is not possible to be in such a situation.
You get on thought restraint and artificial uneasiness and please do not lose a friend. We have respect towards you.
stalvfon 5 years ago
>JAP999
Please know the Chinese truth that you do not know.
You hate Japan that assist China.
Do you know Japan assist your country hundreds of millions of dollars in one year?
The history that it was wrong by a political party of your country taught you. It is creation.
Please know the truth.
stalvfon 5 years ago
>JAP999
this film is not japanese.
There is no cannibalism in Japan between the past and present.
Japan is a country that dislikes discriminating.
Please know the reality.
stalvfon 5 years ago
I see, that's why the textbook written by tsukurukai (the distorted one) was virtually laughed out of print in Japan. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_government-approved_Japanese_history_textbooks listed under 'Fusosha').
Facts are facts, only 0.04 percent of Japanese schools use distorted nationalist text books. Whereas 100 percent of Mainland Chinese schools use distotred nationalist text books. I know, I was in one such school.
Angrychineseblogger 5 years ago
^He's Right
imotherearth 5 years ago
王丹六四感想 Wang dang's thoughts on 1989 massacre incident in China
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAOXPgfZick
fortysix666 5 years ago
who's the singer?
deadasoren 5 years ago
what's the song called?
deadasoren 5 years ago
(Internet censorship in mainland China)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall_of_China
bosscat999 5 years ago
州官只准殺人
不准人民救國
admin911 5 years ago
在八九年"六四"天安门事件十七周堹?纪念日.
六四事件十七周年王丹盼中国早日 民主化 !
bosscat999 5 years ago
中国不是不民主 只是西方的人 眼里 民主不适合中国这个社会 中国人的民主是要时间的 我们和西方是两个不同的文明有 不同的历史和文化,何必何事都要惟西方是瞻?看的出你是个华人,那场悲剧不是一个两个人错误 是时代的悲剧,我们今天在这缅怀亡灵 更要警惕这样的事情不要再发生
auznde 4 years ago
so you mean killing people is chinese democracy. monkey
ShinzoAbe462 4 years ago
I will democratize China.
bosscat999 5 years ago