Personally, I find this challenging to sing, as I have yet to fully develop my techniques as a singer. Also, I have more trouble with the height rather than depth of the range. On learning to sing it I have infact lowered it by two tones. This leaves me with a low C#, and if I'm not mistaken, a C on top. I can reach higher, but not comfortably, and I feel the need to be able to sing it comfortably first. A low F should be no problem at all for a bass.
@TheBoudof When I was a young guy, I found this challenging, but as I got into my late 30's it became easier, and now...50's...I can do it falling off a log. You just have to wait for your voice to mature, about age 40.
@them4ster4 A trill on a natural trumpet (or horn) is achieved by quickly raising and lowering the tongue (distance from the roof of the mouth). Think of saying "ee, ah, ee, ah, ee, ah" very quickly. This alters the speed at which the air passes out of the mouth, thereby changing the speed at which the lips vibrate, thus the notes played -- faster air, higher pitch; slower air, lower pitch. I hope that makes sense.
Blimey I look young! And what it was like to still have hair! This is a tough sing in the complete version (with B section and Da Capo) even with the pitch at 415. Quite a test of technique and stamina for both singer and trumpeter. Merry Christmas!
As a bass/baritone and trumpeter, I find all the debate on the singing hilarious. You all have no idea how difficult this piece is on the trumpet, I can sing this in my sleep. I'm sorry but if you can't comfortably project a low F, you are not suited to perform this piece. If you do have the proper range for this as a singer, stfu. The trumpet part is incredibly difficult by comparison (trust me, I've performed this as the trumpeter as well as singer)
@assclown2k6 Yep, for the singer it's not that hard, though a very effective piece. The trumpet part sounds nasty to me, and I'll take your word for its difficulty. A fine bass-baritone I know had his performance of it ruined when his trumpeter couldn't keep up...
@assclown2k6 I would say it's equally difficult for both - I'm not a trumpeter, so I don't know that side of it. It IS very difficult to sing well - the voice leading is easy to follow, but in terms of breath control and long phrases, it is not easy. On an unrelated note, there is no "low F" anywhere in this aria, given that it is written in the key of D major, and Handel has not even written a low F#, although it could be interpolated as this singer does here.
Dear Mr. Clown, Thanks for affirming my assessment of the trumpet part. I'm not a gifted singer, and am realizing I am not a gifted trumpeter either. I'm trying to get ready to play the trumpet part next week, not quite there yet. The trumpeter on this video did a great job.
Not loud enough! You heard this guy in the theatre. The most beautiful bass voice in the UK, and with the finest baroque trumpeter of our times too. Unbeatable combo! Bravo Al and Crispin!
Beautiful, lyric voice - but he isn't *loud* enough. He is often covered by the orchestra and/or the trumpet - especially at the end of words and phrases.
@Taenyr I don't understand what you're talking about. Mr Miles is quite clear. Either your sound system is defective, your volume too low, or you have a hearing problem. Investigate that on your own (no offense intended because I hear him quite clearly).
@FRAGIORGIO1 Of course I can hear him - I just think the orchestra is a little too loud sometimes. That said, my computer's sound system is not what you'd call state-of-the-art, so you may have a point. =D
Crispian Steele-Perkins is an absolute dude. Performed Messiah last night with my choir and he was playing. He's an absolute scream too, cracking the best jokes.
@danielspiotta With all due respect, the people who know this music understand it and recognize that it is a very good performance. Most singing today is close-mic'd and the power of voices like this are no longer widely appreciated. Only in hearing it live can you experience the power of a voice, un-mic'd, filling a cathedral. I would also add that telling him to "Sing it how you'd speak it..." is like telling a master Kabuki performer to act more ordinary.
Don't confused by him playing those holes on the trumpet. They are just for intonation. Everythings being done with his mouth. Incredibly hard instrument to play.
" Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep; but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet shall sound.".. regardless of spiritual, or religious point of view, this is beautiful, musically.
I have to say that I have some issues with Miles style. One the one hand, we have a fine baroque orchestra and a delicate trumpet, on the other an almost Lyrical voice from a bass. It could have been much worse, as in many basses, but I believe that the his strong vibrato and dark voice does not work well in the pre-romantic repertoire.
I really like the darkness (it's hard to see how he can be lyrical and dark at the same time, but there you go), and his vibrato is at least very firm, not a wobble
@rix657 I know that voice color and vibrato is a question of style, but in my view most basses around fail to convey the level of vocal expression and finesse required by baroque music...
@mrsrobbin It is a very difficult piece, and very nerve-wracking. I myself am playing this for the first time this year as well, but I am a junior in college.
My suggestion is to find a trumpet professor or at the least a private teacher/experienced college kid and get as much practice as he can.
The best thing to remember though is that it is experience, and regardless of how it goes, he did his best and it's a feat in of itself that he is able to play this at his age. Good luck to him!
Just to clear it up for people, Alistair Miles is a bass. Which is pretty obvious listening to him. And a very excellent one. If you want, you can google him and see his website which talks about his type of voice. Gramophon in a review mentions him singing down to a low D flat on a Richard Strauss CD (he could probably go lower). I think his voice is very beautiful, but I wish he was just a little bit more agile. Still, that is a minor point, and this is a great recording.
What year is this performance ? Alastair Miles' baritone voice is very beautiful, and reminds me a little of Samuel Ramey. Alastair sang an excellent Figaro in Mozart's Le Nozze di Figaro on the Telarc recording with Sir Charles Mackerras conducting the Scottish Chamber Orchesta from around '95 or '96 with Carol Vaness as the Countess.
I love this version. This is the most inspiring piece of music I have ever heard, and this performance is wonderful. Did anybody notice the shots of Sarah Palin playing bassoon? Good to see she got a job after leaving Alaska politics.
Excellent sound here. There is a variant vocal part to HWV 56 Nrr. 47, 48 (as sung by David Thomas) that appears on the Academy of Ancient Music recording (see Archiv/Universal 430 488).
This is one of THE toughest pieces in the bass/baritone repertoire....those w/comments about the low "A," try singing it yourself. That being said, this trumpet is exceptional. Miles' voice is breathtaking and his technical mastery is enviable. That said, I find the performance lacking w/regard to mastery of the baroque style (questions about his note groupings in the melismatic passages and the lack of ornamentation in his return to the A section).
INSANE rich voice from Alastair and Crispian is just incredible. Had a masterclass with him the other day and he brought that trumpet with him! Absolutely amazing teacher and such an inspiration.
This is a Long Trumpet from the Renaissance period. They are still made today by a few fine craftsmen. They were made with "No holes" and also 1, 2, 3, and 4 hole design. The holes are in the tubing under the fingers of his right hand. If you watch closely you can see him using these.
This is a sort of copy of the trumpets used in Handel's time, but it has holes in the tube to improve the tuning [they had no holes in those days] It seems to blend better with the voice than a modern type trumpet does. I like both! I am glad you found this interesting. Best wishes, Crispian S-P
Miles' voice tends a little toward thickness and his high Es are somewhat thin. But this is still a rich, impressive instrument. Miles' breath control and florid technique are excellent.
Trying to criticize this is nuts. The strong professional soloist is all over this difficult and physically demanding piece. I do not think he needs to be a showman too. The whole thing is splendid.
@1401JSC He, at no time, has a lack of "tone colour." His tone colour is always present. You do not always like it, but it is always there. As I said, you are talking about what singers call "focus." You can hold to what you said all you want. You are also wrong. Timbre is a property of the physics of sound. Every sound has a timbre. There are no sounds that have no timbre.
@flamencoandy This is a true Lyric Basso Cantante that beautifully executed a timeless and wonderful piece by Handel. No issue of range in this piece; however, there are a lot of issues with breath control and passagio for basses and bass-baritones. I have sung the messiah many a time and while I have a much more dramatic voice, running up to the high Es and Ds with explosive power might be a little more crowd pleasing with an audience - Miles rendition is truly a "singers" rendition.
@bbassillio Or they chose the lower pitch, because the old-style trumpet is only in tune in this calibration?! That's what more possible, don't think it's because of the singer, he doesn't seem to reach a that high range. =)
@boomerkilla47 Baroque Trumpet. Most difficult instrument to play in tune, because it doesn't have any valves but holes. Requires a lot of control of wind & lips. I must say this guy does it very good, I heard a lot of bad of these baroque trumpets.
Utterly awesome performance by Crispian Steele-Perkins on a period Baroque trumpet. I have the 1982 version from Westminster Abbey with David Thomas. Totally incredible!
This is where the notes run together. Since the natural trpt is twice the length of a "modern" valved trpt, the natural harmonic series is an octave lower, so it actually starts on the 3rd space Bb. That is the "Secret" to playing the natural trpt.
Also the "trills" are done with an exagerated "jaw" vibrato where it's sort of like chewing gum, making minute lip adjustments resulting in pitch fluctuation. The lips are set between the high not and the bottom and are trilled down.
Excellent natural trumpet!!!!!!! It is interesting to hear the tonal differences in the fundamental, 5th & octave in the natural harmonic series. I played the Trumpet Shall Sound with the Calvin College Oratory Society. I used a D trpt. Problem was we played the "Mozart" version which split up my solo with that lousy French Horn! Made me cringe each time I played it. When valves were added, they length of the trpt shortened. The continious range starts at a high Bb. (contined)
You must hear and see Florian Boesch(Bass) at Theater an der Wien! He has a great voice!! Miles is "oldschool" He has no power and no emotion in his voice!
I have to say its the best interpretation I've heard until now of this song. Im going to sing it this semester and I know what he is going through to make this such an excelent performance.
Crispian, you are a true musician ... this was technically and musically one of the purest trumpet numbers I've ever heard. And on a period instrument no less! Amazing. Bravo.
Some time ago I wrote here about "pledging my birthright" for an original version of the 2nd Brandenburg - happily for me there`s no need to since it`s been done already - thanks to the efforts of the Societe de la musique ancienne de Nice featuring J.F. Madeuf on the natural trumpet. Truly one of the landmarks in the history of HIP, the CD is due out this Spring. Watch out!
Mr Madeuf kindly sent me a copy of his new 2nd Brandenburg Concerto recording [Jan '09] and I also strongly recommend it; very interesting to compare with that by Canadian group Tafelmusik on Sony Vivarte.
Anyone in the UK wishing to hear a real [not copy] 18th century trumpet [without holes, obviously] might enjoy any of my forthcoming recitals in which I perform at least 2 complete works upon such an instrument. Madeuf is not alone I'm happy to say , but his achievement is remarkable ! CS-P
Pending the invention of a time machine, when we can objectively verify the performance practices of the baroque era, perhaps we can judge "period" performances of baroque music on the same merits that we judge performances on modern instruments. In that spirit- I love this performance for the musicality of both performers, the balance and interaction between them. I am a bit biased - CSP (and Michael Laird) inspired me as a trumpeter when i was young- now I just love the music !
There are many young student players now in academies around the world who are learning from the start on the unvented natural instrument, and soon we will have a generation of capable performers who can avoid cheating and still produce a sound pleasing both to record executives bottom lines and concertgoers ears.
I agree with all this. Don smithers was playing without holes 30 years ago and lost his contract with Philips because they could not accept the "problems". It is worth remembering that the London maker William Shaw added vents to a trumpet in 1787 [used by James Sarjant] because even then audiences winced whenever the 4th & 6th notes of the scale was played[a quote from Charles Burney]
In 1986 I recorded "Shore's Trumpet" in which I used a trumpet made c 1680 by William Bull.
"Shore's Trumpet" released by EMI in 1986 had favorable reviews but people were surprised by the lack of stridence in the sound. This I think is the secret of "clarino" because if blown a little more softly the harmonics are easier to "bend" and blend with other instruments.One should not forget that during the 18th century bands and orchestras got bigger and louder; this I think is one cause of the trumpet's "decline". I used the large mouthpiece from the Bull trumpet troughout the above CD.
.....some historically dubious recreations, but also modern mouthpieces and some truly awful playing -- think Josef Spindler); to the refining of technique and construction on the vented instrument to the point that even moderately skilled players could blow them; and now to the increasing interest in (finally) playing the instrument that Bach and Handel really knew, in the manner to which they were accustomed. Give it time. (CONTINUED)
Look, weve come a long way in Baroque playing practices when it comes to the trumpet. From the early years of the Bach revival when the parts were often altered, transposed, or even assigned to other instruments; to the years of straining to eek out those clarino passages on Bb/C/D trumpets; to some of the early horrendous piccolo trumpets and thence to much better instruments, techniques and sounds; through the early years of the period instrument movement (not just vent holes and (CONTINUED)
Two cents on this debate from a lover of the Baroque and a former trumpeter.....the fact of the matter is that right now there are damn few players like a Madeuf capable of playing acceptably on the purely natural trumpet. (For that matter, there werent that many in the Baroque, either.) Record labels, engineers, and modern ears demand accurate intonation, and they are in the business of selling CDs, not accurately recreating a circa 1750 sound to a tee. (CONTINUED)
(ctd) For example the 4th Suite with Koopman with the vented trumpets unacceptably harsh and ear-drilling and Kuijken`s Ascension Oratorio (alas, very bad sound quality) which sounds a pure delight. He who hath ears let him hear.
Dear Bebopnazi! May I suggest that you think twice before posting so polite and erudite comments like that?(and besides - you may want to change your nick - it`s really not a laughing matter) I think I`ve said my piece already and won`t repeat myself. As for the museum - it`s the proper place of lodging for the vented trumpet as its use is unjustifiable in the age of authenticity. If anyone should have further doubts let him compare two vids of Bach on YT .
Ahhhh, nothing better than fabulous trumpet playing... and the rantings of nameless online idiots over whether a trumpet should have nodal perforations. Who bloody cares!? Yes, yes, we all know how smart you must be to have recognized the modern invention on CSP's trumpet. Why then does it always have to revert to Smithers this and Madeuf that? My advice, if you want museum music, go to a museum!
That is one cool looking trumpet! And Alastair Miles does a great job here, sounds so easy for him, when really its a very difficult sing. But i would urge all of you to listen to Jerome Hines singing this song. It is scary. Really.
fruziakazimierska - dunno wtf you're on about with your cucumbers and all your 'venting'! I suggest you immerse yourself in fantastic recordings of great music, played by great musicians. If that doesn't work, then I suggest abandoning music and immersing yourself in something like trainspotting, or better still, painting by numbers. Good luck my friend.
If I may add a further point in response to crispiansp`s post - the term "Baroque trumpet" is misleading since in modern usage it denotes both types of instruments (natural and vented) indiscriminately. So, the only reasonable solution to this confusion (for all its awkwardness) would be to distinguish between the "Baroque natural trumpet" and the "Baroque vented trumpet with x holes" (2,3 or 4). This would be the proper way of description in CD booklets, for example.
(continued) Happily, it did not come to pass and simply through practice they have become fixtures in the musical world. For reasons impossible to fathom, the natural trumpet playing was not PRACTISED and the effects are as you can see. But things are beginning to change. There are some conductors (e.g. Kuijken) who realise the problem and have their musicians play the real thing, also in concert. Believe me, once you`ve heard it performed thus, it`s impossible to listen to it done otherwise.
What a beautiful voice !
...and Mr.Steele-Perkins is at his best !
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trombaclassicsff 3 days ago
This is SO impressive.
Baechlein17 5 days ago
What the... What the hell is that thing?
UgliStiK14 4 weeks ago
I'm the bass singer.
altheapostate 1 month ago
Personally, I find this challenging to sing, as I have yet to fully develop my techniques as a singer. Also, I have more trouble with the height rather than depth of the range. On learning to sing it I have infact lowered it by two tones. This leaves me with a low C#, and if I'm not mistaken, a C on top. I can reach higher, but not comfortably, and I feel the need to be able to sing it comfortably first. A low F should be no problem at all for a bass.
TheBoudof 1 month ago
@TheBoudof When I was a young guy, I found this challenging, but as I got into my late 30's it became easier, and now...50's...I can do it falling off a log. You just have to wait for your voice to mature, about age 40.
flyboy712 1 week ago
how the hell does the trumpet guy do trills?!
them4ster4 1 month ago
@them4ster4 A trill on a natural trumpet (or horn) is achieved by quickly raising and lowering the tongue (distance from the roof of the mouth). Think of saying "ee, ah, ee, ah, ee, ah" very quickly. This alters the speed at which the air passes out of the mouth, thereby changing the speed at which the lips vibrate, thus the notes played -- faster air, higher pitch; slower air, lower pitch. I hope that makes sense.
fhudkins 1 month ago
Blimey I look young! And what it was like to still have hair! This is a tough sing in the complete version (with B section and Da Capo) even with the pitch at 415. Quite a test of technique and stamina for both singer and trumpeter. Merry Christmas!
altheapostate 1 month ago
@altheapostate Wait... which one are you?
nww009 1 month ago
The trumpet has 4 holes;)
Great Performance!
Mrteovillatrp 1 month ago
Sorry Mr "Atom...." perhaps my English is not enough correct.....
but the orchester is really loud "sometimes"..
mhoracsek 2 months ago
I think this is one of the best interpretation of this aria I have ever heard
but the orchestra is somewhen too loud
mhoracsek 2 months ago
@mhoracsek "Sometimes" not good enough for you? lol
atomicmrpelly 2 months ago
As a bass/baritone and trumpeter, I find all the debate on the singing hilarious. You all have no idea how difficult this piece is on the trumpet, I can sing this in my sleep. I'm sorry but if you can't comfortably project a low F, you are not suited to perform this piece. If you do have the proper range for this as a singer, stfu. The trumpet part is incredibly difficult by comparison (trust me, I've performed this as the trumpeter as well as singer)
assclown2k6 3 months ago
@assclown2k6 Yep, for the singer it's not that hard, though a very effective piece. The trumpet part sounds nasty to me, and I'll take your word for its difficulty. A fine bass-baritone I know had his performance of it ruined when his trumpeter couldn't keep up...
dis0guise 2 months ago
@dis0guise Pah, maybe he needs to stop thinking of it as "his" performance and take a tempo that is appropriate for all the performers then?
atomicmrpelly 2 months ago
@assclown2k6 I would say it's equally difficult for both - I'm not a trumpeter, so I don't know that side of it. It IS very difficult to sing well - the voice leading is easy to follow, but in terms of breath control and long phrases, it is not easy. On an unrelated note, there is no "low F" anywhere in this aria, given that it is written in the key of D major, and Handel has not even written a low F#, although it could be interpolated as this singer does here.
opmaus 2 months ago
@assclown2k6
Dear Mr. Clown, Thanks for affirming my assessment of the trumpet part. I'm not a gifted singer, and am realizing I am not a gifted trumpeter either. I'm trying to get ready to play the trumpet part next week, not quite there yet. The trumpeter on this video did a great job.
innominatum83 1 month ago
Stupendous and moving version! Bravissimi a tutti, cantante e musici!
FRAGIORGIO1 4 months ago
I have heard many versions of this and this is among the best. I also like Phil Driscoll's version in Young Messiah.
usaruss 5 months ago
questa versione E' magnifica..!! ^ì^
TheFarfallo 5 months ago
Yay for the caoughing people at the end!
BINGFRYSRDUN 5 months ago
What a marvelous performance! Thank you for uploading this video!
vazqueztin 5 months ago
This guy sounds like he's yawning and singing at the same time because I can't figure the lyrics out.
nickylane2295 6 months ago
@nickylane2295 "The trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised.." It's very clear. Your computer's sound system must be defective.
FRAGIORGIO1 4 months ago
Not loud enough! You heard this guy in the theatre. The most beautiful bass voice in the UK, and with the finest baroque trumpeter of our times too. Unbeatable combo! Bravo Al and Crispin!
antonyshelley 6 months ago 2
An absolutely beautiful performance. What I would give to have such a high range.
RunescapeWideos 7 months ago
Beautiful, lyric voice - but he isn't *loud* enough. He is often covered by the orchestra and/or the trumpet - especially at the end of words and phrases.
Taenyr 7 months ago
@Taenyr I don't understand what you're talking about. Mr Miles is quite clear. Either your sound system is defective, your volume too low, or you have a hearing problem. Investigate that on your own (no offense intended because I hear him quite clearly).
FRAGIORGIO1 4 months ago
@FRAGIORGIO1 Of course I can hear him - I just think the orchestra is a little too loud sometimes. That said, my computer's sound system is not what you'd call state-of-the-art, so you may have a point. =D
Taenyr 4 months ago
Amazing perfomances !!!
pcma1970 8 months ago
Oops 4:12 :)
19sp70 9 months ago
Crispian Steele-Perkins is an absolute dude. Performed Messiah last night with my choir and he was playing. He's an absolute scream too, cracking the best jokes.
michaelwalsh1234 9 months ago
I can't understand a single word he's saying.
danielspiotta 9 months ago
@danielspiotta With all due respect, the people who know this music understand it and recognize that it is a very good performance. Most singing today is close-mic'd and the power of voices like this are no longer widely appreciated. Only in hearing it live can you experience the power of a voice, un-mic'd, filling a cathedral. I would also add that telling him to "Sing it how you'd speak it..." is like telling a master Kabuki performer to act more ordinary.
basso92211 9 months ago 17
@danielspiotta I have understood him quite well. Check your sound system or turn the volume up.
FRAGIORGIO1 4 months ago
Nice
wisemaninmadworld 9 months ago
LOL, vowels bro, vowels... Sing it how you'd speak it...
danielspiotta 9 months ago
Don't confused by him playing those holes on the trumpet. They are just for intonation. Everythings being done with his mouth. Incredibly hard instrument to play.
lazyeddie04 10 months ago
" Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep; but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet shall sound.".. regardless of spiritual, or religious point of view, this is beautiful, musically.
howardehodge 10 months ago
stars and stripes forever
mbitrd 11 months ago
I love this piece!! It helped a lot when I could understand it better with a great voice :)
JustinBieberfan394 11 months ago
Marvelous! Stunning! Biblical! Handel! Beautiful! English!
TheJbach 11 months ago
Una voz muy bella
Javier141145 1 year ago
Beautiful!!!
colingaj1 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. I think the best version I have yet to hear....
scottreiburn 1 year ago
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wilensk3 1 year ago
I have to say that I have some issues with Miles style. One the one hand, we have a fine baroque orchestra and a delicate trumpet, on the other an almost Lyrical voice from a bass. It could have been much worse, as in many basses, but I believe that the his strong vibrato and dark voice does not work well in the pre-romantic repertoire.
raoniification 1 year ago
@raoniification
I really like the darkness (it's hard to see how he can be lyrical and dark at the same time, but there you go), and his vibrato is at least very firm, not a wobble
rix657 1 year ago
@rix657 I know that voice color and vibrato is a question of style, but in my view most basses around fail to convey the level of vocal expression and finesse required by baroque music...
raoniification 1 year ago
Excellent!
lark005 1 year ago
the holes are three.
riccardosiega 1 year ago
OUTSTANDING
footballinx36x 1 year ago
my son has to do lead truimpet for this, he is only 17 he is scared, he told me that its a bit challanging for a highschool player
mrsrobbin 1 year ago
@mrsrobbin It is a very difficult piece, and very nerve-wracking. I myself am playing this for the first time this year as well, but I am a junior in college.
My suggestion is to find a trumpet professor or at the least a private teacher/experienced college kid and get as much practice as he can.
The best thing to remember though is that it is experience, and regardless of how it goes, he did his best and it's a feat in of itself that he is able to play this at his age. Good luck to him!
ThatTptGuy 1 year ago
Just to clear it up for people, Alistair Miles is a bass. Which is pretty obvious listening to him. And a very excellent one. If you want, you can google him and see his website which talks about his type of voice. Gramophon in a review mentions him singing down to a low D flat on a Richard Strauss CD (he could probably go lower). I think his voice is very beautiful, but I wish he was just a little bit more agile. Still, that is a minor point, and this is a great recording.
rix657 1 year ago
What year is this performance ? Alastair Miles' baritone voice is very beautiful, and reminds me a little of Samuel Ramey. Alastair sang an excellent Figaro in Mozart's Le Nozze di Figaro on the Telarc recording with Sir Charles Mackerras conducting the Scottish Chamber Orchesta from around '95 or '96 with Carol Vaness as the Countess.
AmericanEvita 1 year ago
so beautiful
soxgrl11 1 year ago
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Anyone know who the orchestra and conductor are?
swizzlestickit 1 year ago
Anyone know who the orchestra and conductor are?
swizzlestickit 1 year ago
I love this version. This is the most inspiring piece of music I have ever heard, and this performance is wonderful. Did anybody notice the shots of Sarah Palin playing bassoon? Good to see she got a job after leaving Alaska politics.
pearsonpatents 1 year ago
Amazing performance of Handel by two amazing musicians. Miles' tone is perfect for Handel and I love that Baroque trumpet.
jimraw1 1 year ago
This is awesome. i sang this song 12 years ago. Its refreshing seeing a better singer render a master piece like this.
ebisings 1 year ago
Nice to hear Crispian splits notes occasionally =P
atomicmrpelly 1 year ago
Excellent sound here. There is a variant vocal part to HWV 56 Nrr. 47, 48 (as sung by David Thomas) that appears on the Academy of Ancient Music recording (see Archiv/Universal 430 488).
bcschmerker 1 year ago
It's a german quality work..:-)
NewEquinoxProduction 1 year ago
How about that shot of Sarah Palin at about 3:11 and 7:44? Didn't know she was into bassoon.
239arena 1 year ago
@239arena not quite
trum4schilke 1 year ago
When music was about the music not how much you can move around as you play
Muggleton2104 1 year ago
This is one of THE toughest pieces in the bass/baritone repertoire....those w/comments about the low "A," try singing it yourself. That being said, this trumpet is exceptional. Miles' voice is breathtaking and his technical mastery is enviable. That said, I find the performance lacking w/regard to mastery of the baroque style (questions about his note groupings in the melismatic passages and the lack of ornamentation in his return to the A section).
smartsingersrock 1 year ago 8
@smartsingersrock I can hit a low C. The A is piece of cake. He's no Bass. And I agree with you about his style.
shrubbmeister 1 year ago
@shrubbmeister 5:46 Low F
BassoCantante19 4 months ago
The old man at 6:07 is thinking"My Lord, am I worth to be shaved?"
beginner57 1 year ago
The problem of baroque arias is the "da capo" :-))
beginner57 1 year ago
9/10
i never heard such an bace solo
great
Trekki61 1 year ago
INSANE rich voice from Alastair and Crispian is just incredible. Had a masterclass with him the other day and he brought that trumpet with him! Absolutely amazing teacher and such an inspiration.
Troyban 2 years ago
Can someone give me the skinny on that beautiful "period horn"? I'm assuming it's a VERY early trumpet, but I want an accurate description. Thanks.
chiteach2 2 years ago
This is a Long Trumpet from the Renaissance period. They are still made today by a few fine craftsmen. They were made with "No holes" and also 1, 2, 3, and 4 hole design. The holes are in the tubing under the fingers of his right hand. If you watch closely you can see him using these.
notrof1 2 years ago
@chiteach2
This is a sort of copy of the trumpets used in Handel's time, but it has holes in the tube to improve the tuning [they had no holes in those days] It seems to blend better with the voice than a modern type trumpet does. I like both! I am glad you found this interesting. Best wishes, Crispian S-P
crispiansp 2 years ago 3
Steele- Perkins.....what a gun.
sammyjo1983 2 years ago
Wow what a voice
Holyangelscci 2 years ago
Does anyone else hear "And we shall be shaved" ? Gotta love Alastair's sense of humor!
jflores87 2 years ago 3
I didn't hear it until I read your posting...LOL...talk about suggestive.
chiteach2 2 years ago
Yes, he says "and we shall be shav'd". You know, all those prophets were bearded men and that would be a great change.
PEPEDEBARRO 2 years ago 2
@PEPEDEBARRO He says "we shall be changed."
bawlmerbuoy1 2 years ago
oh, I should visit my otorrinolaringologist lol
PEPEDEBARRO 2 years ago
Wonderful!!!
rodoShaolin2 2 years ago
I look forward to that day too!
thebigsee 2 years ago
I just love this piece it is so uplifting !
I look forward to that day that he sings about !
joujou611 2 years ago 2
Miles' voice tends a little toward thickness and his high Es are somewhat thin. But this is still a rich, impressive instrument. Miles' breath control and florid technique are excellent.
Steele-Perkins is splendid.
stevevandien 2 years ago
...a beautiful performance by all! i wish i could sing this with so much glide...and with a baroque orchestra! Fantastic voice!!!
cyclesingsleep 2 years ago
Excelente grabación. Gracias por el videito. Pretty cool!
paminablue 2 years ago
Trying to criticize this is nuts. The strong professional soloist is all over this difficult and physically demanding piece. I do not think he needs to be a showman too. The whole thing is splendid.
switz222 2 years ago
Yeah, its a half tone below original, like Bach´s oratorios; its a little bit unfair, because I have to sing it in original:-(
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
ignorant singers... ;)
This IS the origanal pitch. You're just used to singing it with modern instruments.
bbocaner 2 years ago 3
Yes, and I wished to sing it NOT that way:-) Sure, it works, but a half tone below would be better;-)
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
ah! pardon me! I misunderstood your original comment. :)
bbocaner 2 years ago
@WhiteProfondo hard:) I know...one semitone, and everything is different!
loredinusa 2 years ago
Yeah, thats SO strange... argh..singing is so strong connected with psychological stuff...
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
I love a good bass.
flamencoandy 2 years ago 28
Funny, I'm a bass and realy wish I was a tenor... They get better parts in a musical.
uffm 2 years ago
Baritone.
1401JSC 2 years ago
Who Alastair? He's definitely a bass. Uffm is just confused, if he was a true bass, he wouldn't wish to be anything else.
flamencoandy 2 years ago
Must be the recording then: the notes below D lack timbre(especially the As).
Great performance, though.
1401JSC 2 years ago
@1401JSC It is impossible to lack "timbre" without cessation of sound. Perhaps you mean "focus."
CountertenorJ 1 year ago
@CountertenorJ
Collins dictionary. To lack = to be deficient in, have need of. Timbre (music) = tone colour or quality of sound.
I therefore hold to what I said. Timbre is not like a light switch without a variable resistance.
1401JSC 1 year ago
@1401JSC He, at no time, has a lack of "tone colour." His tone colour is always present. You do not always like it, but it is always there. As I said, you are talking about what singers call "focus." You can hold to what you said all you want. You are also wrong. Timbre is a property of the physics of sound. Every sound has a timbre. There are no sounds that have no timbre.
CountertenorJ 1 year ago
@flamencoandy This is a true Lyric Basso Cantante that beautifully executed a timeless and wonderful piece by Handel. No issue of range in this piece; however, there are a lot of issues with breath control and passagio for basses and bass-baritones. I have sung the messiah many a time and while I have a much more dramatic voice, running up to the high Es and Ds with explosive power might be a little more crowd pleasing with an audience - Miles rendition is truly a "singers" rendition.
bassobaritono 9 months ago 5
@bassobaritono I definitely see what you're saying - do you have a favorite recording of this piece, or of "Messiah" in general?
Taenyr 7 months ago
..tuba lol
thad1121 2 years ago
@1401JSC
Er..Maybe a bass-baritone?
scammelldaz 2 years ago
@flamencoandy So do I. Pity he isn't one.
shrubbmeister 1 year ago
@shrubbmeister then you'd better notify him of that, because according to him, he is.
flamencoandy 1 year ago
Wonderful...
And does anyone know what is the title of this engraving shown at some points of the video ?
Naincurab 2 years ago
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Sounds good. But what happend with the pitch? It has to be in D-dur.
Miles is a good singer, but it seems he looked for easy life here :))
bbassillio 2 years ago
A = 415 Hz (Handelian pitch), not 440 Hz (modern concert pitch).
inwit 2 years ago 23
@inwit thank you thank you! I can't stop listening to it:)
loredinusa 2 years ago
@inwit At that tuning, everything sounds more reconforting and warm. Radical diffeerence, no doubt.
OscarGeronimo 1 year ago
@bbassillio true
jengolance 1 year ago
@bbassillio Or they chose the lower pitch, because the old-style trumpet is only in tune in this calibration?! That's what more possible, don't think it's because of the singer, he doesn't seem to reach a that high range. =)
glorius20082008 1 year ago
@bbassillio why would be easier to sing bass voice at a lower pitch?..
ericoschmitt 11 months ago
I love the Old Style trumpet, not easy to play
boomerkilla47 2 years ago 36
@boomerkilla47 yeah, it has a distinctive sound when tongued.
Gozaburo1 1 year ago
@boomerkilla47 Yes I agree. I have a Beale Baroque Trumpet that is tuned to D, C and Bb at A=440 and A=415.
piccolomaster 1 year ago
@boomerkilla47 natural trumpet if you will ;)
nintendoisthebestest 1 year ago
@boomerkilla47 Baroque Trumpet. Most difficult instrument to play in tune, because it doesn't have any valves but holes. Requires a lot of control of wind & lips. I must say this guy does it very good, I heard a lot of bad of these baroque trumpets.
SuspendedVariations 11 months ago
Absolutely awesome... I can't claim to be pro at all, but I love this piece and this is the best version I've heard yet, both trumpet and voice.
grouchptato 2 years ago 3
Utterly awesome performance by Crispian Steele-Perkins on a period Baroque trumpet. I have the 1982 version from Westminster Abbey with David Thomas. Totally incredible!
ds1868 2 years ago 3
The perfect voice for the song. good strong compelling voice. well sung.
drevil081 2 years ago
This is where the notes run together. Since the natural trpt is twice the length of a "modern" valved trpt, the natural harmonic series is an octave lower, so it actually starts on the 3rd space Bb. That is the "Secret" to playing the natural trpt.
Also the "trills" are done with an exagerated "jaw" vibrato where it's sort of like chewing gum, making minute lip adjustments resulting in pitch fluctuation. The lips are set between the high not and the bottom and are trilled down.
strobx1 2 years ago 2
Excellent natural trumpet!!!!!!! It is interesting to hear the tonal differences in the fundamental, 5th & octave in the natural harmonic series. I played the Trumpet Shall Sound with the Calvin College Oratory Society. I used a D trpt. Problem was we played the "Mozart" version which split up my solo with that lousy French Horn! Made me cringe each time I played it. When valves were added, they length of the trpt shortened. The continious range starts at a high Bb. (contined)
strobx1 2 years ago 2
Very good!
MartaBtrp 2 years ago
Great singing but maybe he could sing with more expression. The trumpet is fantastic.
chorister51 2 years ago
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the recit sounds bloody boring. This guy is BOOOOORRRRING. He has no concept of what he is singing about! It could be shopping list!
TheBfwal1 2 years ago
lol... I am shocked. He is giving it his best shot. Kind regards,
Lanark8 2 years ago
Crispian Steele Perkins - legend. Anyone have the version of this sung by Michael George with The Sixteen? Similar voice but a little more nimble.
nigellaexpress 2 years ago
Classy!
lordjorenby 2 years ago
isn't this with Kings College Choir?
I saw this years ago when I was a teenager and I need to know the tenor in this or I will die.
Also does anyone know where I can get the whole televised concert online or in any shape or form.
Great soloists along side Kings College Choir is too much of a good thing!
swerveon 2 years ago
I think the tenor is John Mark Ainsley in this performance
JPD060486 2 years ago
A DVD was released.
ecnice 2 years ago
Sounds great way to go good luck.
tuhoestar 2 years ago
I cannot even begin to imagine how difficult it is to play that type of trumpet, so the minor flub at 4:13 is not a big issue for me.
MASA92190 2 years ago
Must of been enough to point it out!
lodedog 2 years ago 3
You must hear and see Florian Boesch(Bass) at Theater an der Wien! He has a great voice!! Miles is "oldschool" He has no power and no emotion in his voice!
principae122 2 years ago
I have to say its the best interpretation I've heard until now of this song. Im going to sing it this semester and I know what he is going through to make this such an excelent performance.
NSkull2991 2 years ago
Amazing singer performing a great piece! I hope to do this next semester, and possibly for a recital.
chaoticflame5 2 years ago
Excelente versión. Gran cantante.
panimagra 2 years ago
Woah!!!!! What a trumpet! XD
How old would something of that design be?
hotqueekboi 2 years ago
lol, at least he moved to the right note in the recitative. "We shall not all sleEP."
mdlechner7 2 years ago
That was an appoggiatura which was an appropriate ornament for the period and this piece.
pipergj33 2 years ago
Not really, you can get them made "McQueens of Manchester" will be able to make them and then there is BaroqueTrumpet (google it)
falcons1988 2 years ago
Absolutely stunning. What a wonderful voice this man has been gifted with. Heavenly music.
ttussa 2 years ago 2
Crispian, you are a true musician ... this was technically and musically one of the purest trumpet numbers I've ever heard. And on a period instrument no less! Amazing. Bravo.
CaptainQueue 2 years ago 2
Excellent performance, voice and trumpet. Thankyou. Loved the old style trumpet.
spurtler 2 years ago 2
Some time ago I wrote here about "pledging my birthright" for an original version of the 2nd Brandenburg - happily for me there`s no need to since it`s been done already - thanks to the efforts of the Societe de la musique ancienne de Nice featuring J.F. Madeuf on the natural trumpet. Truly one of the landmarks in the history of HIP, the CD is due out this Spring. Watch out!
fruziakazimierska 3 years ago
Mr Madeuf kindly sent me a copy of his new 2nd Brandenburg Concerto recording [Jan '09] and I also strongly recommend it; very interesting to compare with that by Canadian group Tafelmusik on Sony Vivarte.
Anyone in the UK wishing to hear a real [not copy] 18th century trumpet [without holes, obviously] might enjoy any of my forthcoming recitals in which I perform at least 2 complete works upon such an instrument. Madeuf is not alone I'm happy to say , but his achievement is remarkable ! CS-P
crispiansp 2 years ago
Dear Sir, your trumpet playing is an inspiration to me and all trumpet students and player out there. Thank you!
Edric from Singapore
slixk 3 years ago 2
Here Here
mrodhornet2010 2 years ago
Pending the invention of a time machine, when we can objectively verify the performance practices of the baroque era, perhaps we can judge "period" performances of baroque music on the same merits that we judge performances on modern instruments. In that spirit- I love this performance for the musicality of both performers, the balance and interaction between them. I am a bit biased - CSP (and Michael Laird) inspired me as a trumpeter when i was young- now I just love the music !
glynburtt 3 years ago
There are many young student players now in academies around the world who are learning from the start on the unvented natural instrument, and soon we will have a generation of capable performers who can avoid cheating and still produce a sound pleasing both to record executives bottom lines and concertgoers ears.
StanislavJ 3 years ago
I agree with all this. Don smithers was playing without holes 30 years ago and lost his contract with Philips because they could not accept the "problems". It is worth remembering that the London maker William Shaw added vents to a trumpet in 1787 [used by James Sarjant] because even then audiences winced whenever the 4th & 6th notes of the scale was played[a quote from Charles Burney]
In 1986 I recorded "Shore's Trumpet" in which I used a trumpet made c 1680 by William Bull.
[to be continued]..
crispiansp 3 years ago
"Shore's Trumpet" released by EMI in 1986 had favorable reviews but people were surprised by the lack of stridence in the sound. This I think is the secret of "clarino" because if blown a little more softly the harmonics are easier to "bend" and blend with other instruments.One should not forget that during the 18th century bands and orchestras got bigger and louder; this I think is one cause of the trumpet's "decline". I used the large mouthpiece from the Bull trumpet troughout the above CD.
crispiansp 3 years ago
.....some historically dubious recreations, but also modern mouthpieces and some truly awful playing -- think Josef Spindler); to the refining of technique and construction on the vented instrument to the point that even moderately skilled players could blow them; and now to the increasing interest in (finally) playing the instrument that Bach and Handel really knew, in the manner to which they were accustomed. Give it time. (CONTINUED)
StanislavJ 3 years ago
Look, weve come a long way in Baroque playing practices when it comes to the trumpet. From the early years of the Bach revival when the parts were often altered, transposed, or even assigned to other instruments; to the years of straining to eek out those clarino passages on Bb/C/D trumpets; to some of the early horrendous piccolo trumpets and thence to much better instruments, techniques and sounds; through the early years of the period instrument movement (not just vent holes and (CONTINUED)
StanislavJ 3 years ago
Two cents on this debate from a lover of the Baroque and a former trumpeter.....the fact of the matter is that right now there are damn few players like a Madeuf capable of playing acceptably on the purely natural trumpet. (For that matter, there werent that many in the Baroque, either.) Record labels, engineers, and modern ears demand accurate intonation, and they are in the business of selling CDs, not accurately recreating a circa 1750 sound to a tee. (CONTINUED)
StanislavJ 3 years ago
(ctd) For example the 4th Suite with Koopman with the vented trumpets unacceptably harsh and ear-drilling and Kuijken`s Ascension Oratorio (alas, very bad sound quality) which sounds a pure delight. He who hath ears let him hear.
fruziakazimierska 3 years ago
Dear Bebopnazi! May I suggest that you think twice before posting so polite and erudite comments like that?(and besides - you may want to change your nick - it`s really not a laughing matter) I think I`ve said my piece already and won`t repeat myself. As for the museum - it`s the proper place of lodging for the vented trumpet as its use is unjustifiable in the age of authenticity. If anyone should have further doubts let him compare two vids of Bach on YT .
fruziakazimierska 3 years ago
Ahhhh, nothing better than fabulous trumpet playing... and the rantings of nameless online idiots over whether a trumpet should have nodal perforations. Who bloody cares!? Yes, yes, we all know how smart you must be to have recognized the modern invention on CSP's trumpet. Why then does it always have to revert to Smithers this and Madeuf that? My advice, if you want museum music, go to a museum!
bebopnazi 3 years ago
That is one cool looking trumpet! And Alastair Miles does a great job here, sounds so easy for him, when really its a very difficult sing. But i would urge all of you to listen to Jerome Hines singing this song. It is scary. Really.
hyphboy 3 years ago
Dear sez40! Perhaps you`d prefer a cucumber trumpet to sound (be sure to check it out on YouTube). I personally find it too natural, actually.
fruziakazimierska 3 years ago
fruziakazimierska - dunno wtf you're on about with your cucumbers and all your 'venting'! I suggest you immerse yourself in fantastic recordings of great music, played by great musicians. If that doesn't work, then I suggest abandoning music and immersing yourself in something like trainspotting, or better still, painting by numbers. Good luck my friend.
sez40 3 years ago
OK then fruziakazimierska.
*Moves slowly to the nearest exit*
sez40 3 years ago
If I may add a further point in response to crispiansp`s post - the term "Baroque trumpet" is misleading since in modern usage it denotes both types of instruments (natural and vented) indiscriminately. So, the only reasonable solution to this confusion (for all its awkwardness) would be to distinguish between the "Baroque natural trumpet" and the "Baroque vented trumpet with x holes" (2,3 or 4). This would be the proper way of description in CD booklets, for example.
fruziakazimierska 3 years ago
Who bloody cares, ffs?! Perhaps it's time you actually listened to music rather than treat it like trainspotting?
sez40 3 years ago
that was to fruziakazimierska btw.
sez40 3 years ago
(continued) Happily, it did not come to pass and simply through practice they have become fixtures in the musical world. For reasons impossible to fathom, the natural trumpet playing was not PRACTISED and the effects are as you can see. But things are beginning to change. There are some conductors (e.g. Kuijken) who realise the problem and have their musicians play the real thing, also in concert. Believe me, once you`ve heard it performed thus, it`s impossible to listen to it done otherwise.
fruziakazimierska 3 years ago