I was actually trying to get that today on somebody too, but I was having trouble making the transition from x gaurd all the way to the arm. They were laying awful heavy that direction. The knee bar is there with less movement. when you get him floating like that
"Looka nice in practice, but against someone with a good base it won't work"
lol why do guys say that all the time...thats like someone showing a triangle and you saying..."Ha ...that looks good in practice..but against someone with good posture that wont work" Every move can be blocked and every move is used WHEN the guy makes a mistake and doesn't have good base, posture, grip etc. Of course it wont work everytime...but one time it will.
true but there are high percentage and low percentage moves.
this would be a low percentage move.
too loose. an armbar from the bottom with only one clipped leg (as shown in the vid) is just poor technique. doesn't work as good as when you are on top, it's not a good habit and will be costly in the long run.
if it wer the spider ambar variation with the legs it would have a higher success rate.
Fine..but he wasn't showing a "spider ambar" he was showing this. It has its scenarios where it works...no point in saying it has flaws..almost every submission does..thats how defenses exist.
The flaw is that they must be executed...and since they must be executed their will be flaws. There is a weak point in every execution and if you opponent is able to capitalize on these weak moments with stronger defense or counter movements...he will win.
Roger is actually an example for me as well...He gets into those positions with this philosophy....he wins because he understands this better than his opponents. In fact, he is one of the ones I learned this philosophy from.
seriously man, you might wanna bring it down a notch. i mean it does make sense but if you really think about it. its a little too much.
all im trying to say is that in this situation it's the technique it self that has flaws, in the setup and in the the finish. which will make it easy to defend and harder to do in live application (don't get me wrong it will probably work)
whether you agree with me or not is entirely up to you. peace out.
lol your the one that initiated this little journey, and I can follow you as far down the rabbit hole as you want to go.
The point is, if it "Probably will work" then whats the point on thrashing it. There are high percentage moves and low percentage moves...its good to have both. Whats the point in trashing it? That's all I'm saying.
wasn't talking about this "rabit hole" journey. was talking about the seamlessly continuously redundant "catch phrases" starting to go to a spiral twirl into a vividly grassy trail leading back in the starting line.
and yes the paragraph on top is too make a point for utter redundancy becoming into non-sense
but anyway wasn't trashing it. i just pointed out some points to improve on. it's just way too easy too push that one knee out.,right? do you see yourself tapping out from this?
it's only a matter of time before you start seeing more of a catch wrestling influence on mma, i'm surpised there is'nt so far due to Josh barnett being 1 of the top 10 in the world and being trained by Karl Gotch (amazing catch wrestler).
i completely agree, this is an excellent move and will definately play a big part in teh future of ground work in MMA. But, At the same time i have to say catch wrestling is one of the most underrated ground arts out there, but yet one of the most dominant. It's only a matter of time before you start seeing a catch wrestling influence in mma, because of the controll that is used before a submission is applied versus surprising your opponent.
I get some sweeps here and there and burned on it too, but I'm get burned 100 times before it's just right. But gettined burned has made me work half guard a lot more! Love X!
I think x-guard is gonna the next trend in grappling and in mma. You may not see many people doing now, but eventually you'll see more people doing it in the future.
very nice move, when the opponent is in 4 points and you take his arm, I can see a lot of space there tfor him to escape, but I'll try it; even if he escapes his arm, yhe would alreaady lose balance
You'd NEVER hit that on me, I swear. You don't have enough grip on my left arm to keep me in that move. It's really cool, though, and has tons of potential for other variations. ciao
This is a very good and advance technique. I haven't caught anyone yet with it, but I have tap quite a few with your x-guard leg lock. Thank-you for sharing.
i dont this would actually work .. the throwing him up in the air part .. but who said im not gona try it
bilbaisim 1 year ago
nice
Bjjfighter1982 1 year ago
maybe you could even go to a helicopter arm bar. would be a bit more faster,
Cadeell 2 years ago
@Cadeell Yea I was going to say that this looked like a helicopter, if he just avoided putting him down at all.
LandusMcLandy 5 months ago
I was actually trying to get that today on somebody too, but I was having trouble making the transition from x gaurd all the way to the arm. They were laying awful heavy that direction. The knee bar is there with less movement. when you get him floating like that
sprpoolboy 2 years ago
very very very nice, just recently found out about x guard and been doing some mad practicing, im gonna start using it a lot
MurkedStat 2 years ago
this seems like u can defend it well cuz ur free hand is just there
rhdadrian 2 years ago
Thanks for the innovative (no gi !) technique.
GTkjohnny 2 years ago
looks nice in practice, but against someone with a good base it won't work
moschetty 3 years ago
"Looka nice in practice, but against someone with a good base it won't work"
lol why do guys say that all the time...thats like someone showing a triangle and you saying..."Ha ...that looks good in practice..but against someone with good posture that wont work" Every move can be blocked and every move is used WHEN the guy makes a mistake and doesn't have good base, posture, grip etc. Of course it wont work everytime...but one time it will.
PadLockum 2 years ago 13
true but there are high percentage and low percentage moves.
this would be a low percentage move.
too loose. an armbar from the bottom with only one clipped leg (as shown in the vid) is just poor technique. doesn't work as good as when you are on top, it's not a good habit and will be costly in the long run.
if it wer the spider ambar variation with the legs it would have a higher success rate.
Donpaeng 2 years ago
Fine..but he wasn't showing a "spider ambar" he was showing this. It has its scenarios where it works...no point in saying it has flaws..almost every submission does..thats how defenses exist.
PadLockum 2 years ago
"no point in saying it has flaws..almost every submission does..thats how defenses exist."
flaws exist in execution not technique.
the simplest technique executed perfectly can not be countered.
living proof would be Roger Gracie.
Donpaeng 2 years ago
The flaw is that they must be executed...and since they must be executed their will be flaws. There is a weak point in every execution and if you opponent is able to capitalize on these weak moments with stronger defense or counter movements...he will win.
Roger is actually an example for me as well...He gets into those positions with this philosophy....he wins because he understands this better than his opponents. In fact, he is one of the ones I learned this philosophy from.
PadLockum 2 years ago
"The flaw is that they must be executed"??
seriously man, you might wanna bring it down a notch. i mean it does make sense but if you really think about it. its a little too much.
all im trying to say is that in this situation it's the technique it self that has flaws, in the setup and in the the finish. which will make it easy to defend and harder to do in live application (don't get me wrong it will probably work)
whether you agree with me or not is entirely up to you. peace out.
Donpaeng 2 years ago
lol your the one that initiated this little journey, and I can follow you as far down the rabbit hole as you want to go.
The point is, if it "Probably will work" then whats the point on thrashing it. There are high percentage moves and low percentage moves...its good to have both. Whats the point in trashing it? That's all I'm saying.
PadLockum 2 years ago
wasn't talking about this "rabit hole" journey. was talking about the seamlessly continuously redundant "catch phrases" starting to go to a spiral twirl into a vividly grassy trail leading back in the starting line.
and yes the paragraph on top is too make a point for utter redundancy becoming into non-sense
but anyway wasn't trashing it. i just pointed out some points to improve on. it's just way too easy too push that one knee out.,right? do you see yourself tapping out from this?
Donpaeng 2 years ago
ME?I never tap!
I could sit in your arm bar and feel fine, Carbon Steel Spine, passing through your guard like its a yield sign :)
Just kiddin..yes, I understand what you are saying...it is definitely and opportunistic move.
PadLockum 2 years ago
LOL nice rhyme
Donpaeng 2 years ago
thats a nice technique bro. thanks for sharing.
93959701 3 years ago
it's only a matter of time before you start seeing more of a catch wrestling influence on mma, i'm surpised there is'nt so far due to Josh barnett being 1 of the top 10 in the world and being trained by Karl Gotch (amazing catch wrestler).
mistrbluevein 3 years ago
i completely agree, this is an excellent move and will definately play a big part in teh future of ground work in MMA. But, At the same time i have to say catch wrestling is one of the most underrated ground arts out there, but yet one of the most dominant. It's only a matter of time before you start seeing a catch wrestling influence in mma, because of the controll that is used before a submission is applied versus surprising your opponent.
mistrbluevein 3 years ago
i just started working x guard and i have been sweeping the hell out of anyone,i really never see anyone using this guard i love it.
xabovethisworldx 3 years ago
I get some sweeps here and there and burned on it too, but I'm get burned 100 times before it's just right. But gettined burned has made me work half guard a lot more! Love X!
pchancey007 3 years ago
nice submission!
ragompi 3 years ago
This is great for people with long limbs. Thanks for posting, gonna try it next training.
sapienturk 3 years ago
I think x-guard is gonna the next trend in grappling and in mma. You may not see many people doing now, but eventually you'll see more people doing it in the future.
SakoYo 3 years ago
very nice move, when the opponent is in 4 points and you take his arm, I can see a lot of space there tfor him to escape, but I'll try it; even if he escapes his arm, yhe would alreaady lose balance
xverxverxverga 3 years ago
you must put and press your head on the chest !
lockekr 4 years ago
YOUR move works good,DON'T LESSEN to NEGATIVE
COMMENTS ,THESE people never matter.
armand005 4 years ago
its complex, but with practice it looks efective.
gfizzledizzle 4 years ago
It looks great. I'm going to have to try that and I'll post up how it works for me.
PsycloneJeremy 4 years ago
most submissions seem improbable, interesting stuff.
crwv 4 years ago
nice
spencer232323 4 years ago
very nice
epella 4 years ago
You'd NEVER hit that on me, I swear. You don't have enough grip on my left arm to keep me in that move. It's really cool, though, and has tons of potential for other variations. ciao
adamish1134 4 years ago
I think this move will SUBMIT you EVERYTIME bro. Your left arm is weak. You are cool though.
boarderxcosta 4 years ago
respect for your technique
truefrompg 4 years ago
ahahah skyhigh ahahah skyhigh love dat song
thailegacy 4 years ago
Nice one,bro/Thanx
jotaeme121 4 years ago
Nice move!
kramercito 4 years ago
Awesome!
greg2anda 4 years ago
beleza Pura !
gui70 4 years ago
EXCELENTE TECNICA,MUY AGRADECIDO.
jiukao 4 years ago
Great Idea!
SWCologne 5 years ago
sweeeeeetttttt!!!
you go, man!!!
garciagugu 5 years ago
awesome, thats a position i get caught in while grappling bigger guys, thanks
dynamitemitch 5 years ago
That's cool!!
keithowen 5 years ago
This is a very good and advance technique. I haven't caught anyone yet with it, but I have tap quite a few with your x-guard leg lock. Thank-you for sharing.
703hoa 5 years ago
Cool move!! And you're Finnish too (like me). Where do you guys train?
CleverDjembe 5 years ago
fantastic and great technique ufff I like it!!!!if you invented more please let me know it!!! Jiujitsu 4 ever
willyboy 5 years ago
damn men you are crazy!!! you are good at experimenting moves cool
aspectmishima 5 years ago