Some have mentioned this, but some voucher laws aren't all they're cracked up to be. Some states are enacting voucher programs, but with strings attached & the state Dept. of Ed looking over their shoulder. AZ's tax credit program (which was upheld by the SCOTUS) is a good start.
Hmm 5% of charters are good? Where would you find quantitative data to support that? Diane has spoke out against using standardized testing as a measure. On that account, I agree with her. But without a state mandated curriculum, how does one suppose that students without those restrictions on their teachers perform. When public schools mold the curriculum around the test in order to receive more funding? As
I wonder if that interview was awkward for Matt Welch to conduct.... I Imagine that it was as excruciating as having his nuts in a vice. That's at least how it would have felt for me. I'm guessing it was more of a promotional thing for searches on youtube to gain more exposure with the right...
i agree DM has more than his share of flaws,but he was,along with David Gergen,one of the smartest political operators out there.remember,libertarians,he was the guy who persuaded clinton to sign welfare reform in 96.so maybe school choice will gain support with the democrats if he supports it.
To all the haters: I agree Dick Morris is a tool. But I, for as long as I am politically active, will always welcome others to agree with me. Coalitions are wonderful - coalitions of compromise. Compromise is what's destroyed this country. Period. So, to thank, I welcome and thank Dick Morris, even if he's a total tool in many other respects
@elricmlbone If you only look to people who are 100% libertarian, you're not going to get far. Reason is pretty good at picking allies for specific causes without actually supporting or endorsing those allies. They'll take in nanny state Democrats on the few issues in which they want more freedom, such as gay rights, and they'll take in neo-con Republicans where they're willing to cut spending, but ditch them where they start advocating for conservative boondoggles.
@Megabyxos I, like Ron Paul, will not compromise on my principles. Go watch the video then reply to me. The man is riding the free market school issue but is a total jerk about civil liberties. For too long we have gotten into bed with people just because they agree with us on a single issue but over all they are either neo-cons
or progressives or anti-civil liberties. It is time we we stood for our beliefs and not waver.
For sure. Too many libertarians are determined to have as little influence as humanly possible. You can't let perfect be the enemy of good. I love the fact that even some big lefties like Corey Booker support school choice. The more the merrier I say.
The first automobiles, computers, planes, etc were not very impressive. Fortunately the free market had the liberty to follow through, experiment, fail, succeed, and weed out the bad ideas. Imagine if government had banned the Wright Flyer because it was not "safe and effective"?
Imagine what the free market could do with education!
On the other hand you could always go the homeschool route, school choice now, with out the politicians.
@XCritonX - homeschool is an excellent model. too bad kids miss out on a lot of social interaction with larger groups. and not every child comes from a home that is equipped to educate a child.
@qncsc I hearty disagree that homeschooled kids miss out on any useful social interaction. Children learn mature and productive adult behavior best when they interact with adults. As a homeschooled kid I involved myself with various charities and even started a successful business that grew to have 50 employees, all adults. My parents had nothing to do with my homeschooling, it was my choice and I took responsibility for it. I taught myself with the help of books, adult mentors and experience.
@XCritonX - yes, but unlike some who are gifted with great parents, you are unique and special. and i mean that. but you are a great example to what we need to see more of in students: individual effort and thought and responsibility for their education.
BTW, the charter school law passed in Indiana is total shit. It allows over 30 groups to certify Charter Schools. Recently, the Mayor of Indianpolis tried to shut down a shitty charter school, all that school did was go to Ball State to certify it operating. About 80% of Indiana charter schools are shit, 15% ok and 5% good, some fucking choice.
@robertmike57 - perhaps if we had Charters for 4 decades, we would have had the competition to innovate the "best practices" models, instead of these baby-steps, starter-charters (or shit as you call them). innovation is the same in all arenas: it all looks like shit in the beginning. with drive and creativity and competing models, eventually winners shake out and improvements are made. THAT IS JUST FUCKING LIFE.
@qncsc Charter schools have been around for a while, offer nothing better and are usually worse. Less experienced teachers, creaming off the smarter better behaved students, fucking disability students in violation of the law, that's what Charter Schools are about. That's been going on for a while and will get worse now that there are greedy Hedge Fund Managers trying to cash in building new buildings at public expense.
@robertmike57 - interesting points. and jaded too. not to say that there is not corruption...since money is involved. the problems that you are pointing to are manageable: ultimately, in aggregate, competition will be the supreme enforcer, if fluidity of funds and students are allowed to gravitate to sincere educators, driving results. most parents will drive their children to performance. currently, many are stuck. (or given the state of US ed today, most are stuck).
@robertmike57 - anyway, a bigger problem is probably "job training." something like 40% of US jobs are now low-wage jobs. thanks to Chindia, global wage-arbitrage is decimating industry after industry re employment (similar to how the Internet impacted markets). we are probably too educated at this time (US). i am a big believer in high-tech but the current system has little means to impact current students in a meaningful disruptive way to alter the destiny of those not already fortunate
Charter Schools need added bureaucracy and regulation. What has been shown with Charter Schools if there is a way to cheat, scam and rip off taxpayers & students, sleazy charter schools will do it. I thought libertarians were against more regulation, so Reason TV must be getting paid by the Koch Brothers to whore out their principles with a lying scumbag like Dick Morris.
@robertmike57 - why do Charter Schools need added regs? and is that "supposed" bureaucracy and regulation anything in comparison to the DOE? oh, come on. no one...no one is going to buy that comparison! the ONLY regulation that is needed is the end results of scores on examinations to determine effectiveness, competitiveness, competency and preparation respective to other students.
show me a composite of scores and there you have your regulation!
@qncsc I've looked at the Indiana Department of Education test scores for charter schools. There almost all inferior shit, Signature School in Evansville a lone exception. If I can find that, then you can. With a public school, you have public rosters of employees with emails/phone numbers to contact them. You don't have that with charter schools, especially with fucking Gulen Turk schools committing massive visa fraud to import turks kicking back 40% of their salaries.
@robertmike57 - well i have looked at the city of Detroit's scores. they suck worse than anything on the planet. education is broke all the way around. criminals posing as educators are the problem in either system: public school teachers cheating on exams or ... as you pointed out. criminality is not a viable excuse. the model for innovation (if open because of taxpayer monies) will win... every system of competition reflects this. (my 2 cents -- thanks for the specific illustrations).
@qncsc I never claimed there weren't terrible public schools. Words like "innovation" are meaningless without specific examples. I like the concept of 1 teacher for a group of students for 3 years in K-8 (it's 5 years in Finland) with Detroit. Allow for a education& parental involvement a more stable environment, . I don't see charter schools being able to do that, they have a great track record of simply expelling problem students and have far higher teacher turnover.
@robertmike57 - i don't doubt the problems that you outline. however, if public schools have found a successful strategy (as you identified), in an open, competitive system, someone will pick that up and run with it. just think what you would do if you managed a school and how you would work to make it better, if allowed autonomy to compete. you would look for the best approaches. similarly, someone else will too. you and others will have to account for the results. theory for innovation/change
@qncsc Theres a free flow of ideas in Education with journals, conferences, classes ect. Education isn't a case of building a better TV and getting a patent on it for innovation. What I see happening in Indiana is appalling with that state charter law, but Dick Morris is gloating about it, goes to show he's either stupid as fuck or is a conman pandering to libertarians, its a license for fly by night crooked hucksters to rip off students education and taxpayer money.
@robertmike57 - don't know Indiana. Morris has a good mind (generally) but could be off on this or perhaps it is a "talking point" of a political nature (unfortunately). perhaps we a have a difference (from you and those like me) that believe competition leads to innovation. all industries were loaded with hucksters (if you know some business history). eventually, (and especially technical areas) frauds and charlatans are identified. in some ways schools are in a better position with exams...
@qncsc An "innovation" Horizon (Gulen) School of Cleveland has is accepting 150 9th graders and only graduating 60 12th graders. 90 students leave yet test scores are only marginally higher, made a vid where I present their side in full. Fucking Turks boot out any problem students to schools that have to accept those problems. Another innovation: noncompliant ADA facility. Face it, this school choice phrase is a buzzword for destroying public education
@robertmike57 "fly by night crooked hucksters who rip off students education and taxpayer money"? Sounds like the definition of politically motivated teachers union thugs to me.
Do you really think that politicians and bureaucrats are smarter than everyone else? Because in the government controlled education system the politicians and bureaucrats make all of the decisions. I prefer a free education market where the users make the decisions, even if they sometimes make bad decisions.
@XCritonX I can contact my local public school officials by name & email, attend school board meetings, even vote for a school board. I can't do any of that with the nearby charter schools where there is a millionaire making lots of money while providing lousy student test scores and advertising touting his shit as being steak. A managed monopoly has far more accountability, checks and balances, than the millionaire .
@robertmike57 Do you go to the schools in question? If not you have no business or right to pry into someone elses business. Busybodies and nannies always want to "know" whats happening in someone elses domain.
If you have a problem with a hard working productive person getting rich of of the labor of his work and investment risk you would hate to see how the school union thugs get rich off of providing crap educations at public schools world wide.
@XCritonX Wow, taxpayers have the right to expect accountability from taxpayer funded entities. Public education is a concern of the public, its not a private company. There are parasites running charter schools getting rich, not hard working productive people.
@robertmike57 its possible that certain charter schools are not performing upto mark, but the same can be said of regualr public schools. There are many communities in which the poor depend on the charter school, as it is the only plae that can provide a good education for thier children that is free. Look into the KIPP program, teachers and students are in school for way longer than unions whould normally allow, but the school belives longer school days are a must.
@dogagas KIPP schools are shit precisely because they have longer days. Who the hell thinks that gives higher scores? It merely weeds those bored by such a structure (I know I would hate that shit) who generally have lower scores. KIPP weeds out 60% of those in the 5th grade by the 8th grade. KIPP also spends huge amounts on overhead selling their shit sandwich as steak. The states without teacher unions have far shittier schools than union states, so all you've got is antiunion bullshit.
@dogagas BTW, KIPP also engages in disparate impact discrimination against those with LD's and brazen overt discrimination against those who aren't speaking english as a 1st language. Sooner or later, lawsuits will be filed against KIPP and they will lose. Finally, Bill Gates props up his KIPP with extra money for his ego, that makes the argument that schools need more tax dollars.
@robertmike57 im not saying the system is perfet, but it has worked for countless kids, and was started by teachers themselves. SO what if BIll Gates is funding it, what does that have to do with anything. The fact of the matter is you have to be severely ideologially biased to not see what is right in front of you. The parents themselves are the main campaigners for school choice, not some corporate shills.
@robertmike57 As for kids with LD or language barriers, the beauty of school choice is that you can have enitre charters dedicated to these kinds of children, or if there isnt enough of a market for it, you an just go with anti disrimination laws. The parents and community organizers in all underpriveleged areas have prefered school choice, the only ones against it are unions, the candidates they lobby and Matt Damon (who prolly lives in a neighbourhood that makes this a non-issue for his kids)
@dogagas A public common is public education, it's not buying a sack of groceries from a better supermarket. Hell, you can toss bad groceries, but you charter school idiots love tossing children future for the rich hedge fund managers and millionaire school profiteers, which self promoting KIPP does as well with 60% dropout rate. And you're a fucking liar about parents wanting school choice in underprivleged areas, it's schools to be as good as what better areas get.
and im not buying your bored kids argument, many of the kids who go to KIPP were not excelling in public school, They were underperforming in regular school, and therfore transferred to KIPPand longer hours helped them. You know, its disheartening to see you take a shit on hard working teachers who are genuinely dedicated to children, i guess its ok to criticize non-unionized teachers. They may be ideologically opposed to you, but they do try to offer more than a shit sandwhich to the kids.
@dogagas Way to go with your non sequitar. I didn't criticize KIPP school teachers, hell, don't know or care if they're union, didn't say there weren't kids who improved performance . What you do is to show your hated toward unions, that's consistent with the Koch Brothers assault on america . I explain why KIPP is shit, you refute none of it.
@robertmike57 no, all you've done is point out the flaws of a system that has had many benefits for many kids. Your only argument against KIPP is that it doesnt extend its benefits to all kids, yet even you cannot deny the fact that it has worked miracles on kids who were previously deemed unteachable. . ANd the parents of California voted for the Trigger, a law that allows parents a lot more control over schools, and forces some schools to turn charter, I am not lying about parental support.
@dogagas Trigger in California is mostly about hucksters and conmen coming in school districts and getting a few parents to help make them rich. And KIPP hasn't worked miracles on kids deemed unteachable, it boots those kids out.
@robertmike57 the fact that you feel the need to throw out all the good charter schools are doing, and demonize all that support them shows that youre ideologically driven, not result oriented. KIPP improves the academic performance of many of its students. Studies have shown this. Your criticisms are valid, and should be adressed, but you shouldnt skew the impact of a basically good organisation. Nothing is perfect, honest conversation will lead us to a better tomorrow. Abandon ideology tho.
@dogagas I go with Diane Ravitch's assessment that 5% of charter schools are good, she's the expert, I do my own reading/vids reaching a similar conclusion. I have never said all charter schools are bad, know a few are good. Nor KIPP is bad, it's just no better than its additional funding & propaganda. The faux libertarian goal (Reason TV is a Koch front) is to destroy public education by any means necessary . When Reason TV does a 10 minute interview with Ravitch, I might change my mind.
So basically 9 people like it when the school system forces their kids to go to schools they don't want too, is that what I'm understanding right now? Fucking retarded people I swear
@Somespatanwarrior - Agreed. I'm all for school choice, but are US parents ready for it? Most don't have a clue. Not only wouldn't they know a good/bad school when they see one, they'd be very unlikely to choose "good fit" school for their child and would probably base their decisions on what they'd want for themselves. I see it all the time.
Parents need to be much more involved in their child's education - as they are in the countries achieving better results.
Dick Morris is a hypocrite. I do remember that he said that he wants all kids drug tested. Should state officials me allowed to force their way into people's homes and drug test them, Mr. Morris?
Morris is middle to moderately-right. He is not conservative or libertarian. However, his support for this issue shows how broad the appeal of school choice is. It is not just a right-wing and libertarian issue anymore.
@8chxBLhJDy9 - yes, i think most people supporting Paul are behind his ideas. Paul has a personality that are the opposite of a Clinton-Obama (or star power). anyone supporting Paul has to be doing it for the ideas, mostly. if only Paul had star power...wow!
(how did you go O? sorry, but i have a particular hate for people that accepted this criminal into the office. he should be impeached for driving trillion dollar deficits and stating that he knows nothing about economics).
Know one should doubt Morris' political influence. The fact that he is on the side of reason (or Reason) in the school choice debate is something that should be celebrated. Dr. Paul also chooses his alliances along those lines.
@8chxBLhJDy9 Another thing about Morris is that he's not above changing his beliefs when proven wrong. He used to be liberal until the other Ron (Reagan) converted him. Regardless of whether you like RR or Morris, it shows that Morris is capable of evolution. Perhaps even capable of becoming a RP supporter.
@DaringWind - exactly. i have seen Morris evolve. he should get points for that. instead he is vilified...and for what? i do not know, as others just do a "drive-by verbal assault" never stating a reasoned claim (lol). if anyone listened to Morris and are intelligent, i think would appreciate some of his analysis. everyone can be a mixed-bag and i don't know why Morris is hated-outright.
coincidentally, those here treat Morris the way others treat Paul -- oh, the irony!
@8chxBLhJDy9 I don't think you view as Paul as God, but I do believe you are putting too much importance on the man rather than the idea. I may not always agree with Dick Morris, but I won't always disagree with him just because he's not a RP supporter. I think Morris is right on school choice, so I would rather use him as an ally for this particular issue. When Dick Morris is wrong, then I'll argue with him.
No Dick Morris is no libertarian, but so what? Shouldn't we be happy that school choice has a wide spectrum of support? The movement won't go anywhere with this kind of childish crap.
to those that hate "the Dick" -- do you have specific and concrete analysis that determines how you have gotten to your position -- or are you just riding the popular bandwagon of the moment?
Dick Morris is a Horrific Horrific Horrific Man. Did I mention I don't like him. He's an Ass. Also, I'm glad his name is Dick, because it suits him. Maybe he will Choke on one soon, and then we don't have to hear the Santorum flow from his Fat Face..
I don't believe anyone who believe that we should test every school kid for drugs could ever really care about liberty. My guess would be the man is a political prostitute willing to support any movement that will pay him to speak for them.
@Loathomar - disagree. he has "liberty-like" views in regard to health-care and education and commerce. his views are better than 70-80% of the US. but maybe not as strong as those that come here. i am far more concerned about the 50% voting Obama, while we have 1 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS. how Obama is not impeached...and we are not organizing to storm the capitol! yet, we gnash teeth over a political strategist?
@qncsc Cause Obama is totally to blame for the economy... Cause we all know the the US president controls the world economics and can change as they feel... Or not. So, you think Obama should have done what? Increase or keep taxes normal? Let all major banks in the US fall? Slashed government jobs by 30-40%, increasing unemployment by 5-10% over night? Please, do tell me what you would have done and I can tell you the problems are with it.
@Loathomar - leadership. he should have resolved to return federal spending to 03 levels; interdicted on several int'l trade agreements that are creating a "wage-arbitrage" war for global talent that the US employee cannot win; lead on addressing incentives that allow multinationals to expand globally, plants and ultimate r&d. the US banks failing is a canard: he should have set-up an alternate tier of banks, capitalized and allowed the tbtf's to fail...
@qncsc There is no way to drop back to '03 levels without truly massive government lay off, trade leads to increase in prosperity not a decrease, or have you never taken a econ class. Without trade the US standard of living with halve over night. What incentives? Allow the big banks to fail would cause a run on all banks cause basically all banks to fail. The US Government could then set government owned banks, cause that would be both cheap and effect, right? 3 fails and an incomplete...
@Loathomar - i am not going to even argue your replies. i know my education level on economics is far greater than yours without even requesting info on your background. and your replies are thoughtless and only argumentative; you haven't even seriously considered what i wrote. what a waste! find someone else to run your screeds by. if you reply to me, i will just laugh! sorry! ... you have been suckered with your accepted disinfo and to get you up to speed would be nightmarishly long!
@qncsc I'm sorry, what economic school of though wants to end trade? Please, do tell me... And what school of thought does the idea that when major banks fail and close, people will not try to withdraw all their money from the other smaller banks because they fear their bank will be next? This is known as a run on a bank, but I am sure you knew this, so clear you had a plan to stop people from making a run on the smaller banks when the big bank fail, so please explain.
@qncsc It would be long to list the school of though in econ that say trade is a bad thing? Wow, really? Come on, just giving me some links to per review publish econ papers that agree with your state thoughts, that's not long and if you had a PhD you could simply send me your own work on the subject. We are talking about maybe 250 characters here tops. So, please just link some peer review articulars from PhD economics that say trade is bad, or the US would be fine with massive bank failure.
some comments: "His view of what America should be is as rotten as his teeth." "Dick Morris is a dick, meh." and "Dick Morris looks like he just ate a baby."
per above, some feel they are viewing EmotionTV and not ReasonTV
@8chxBLhJDy9 Just because Dick Morris isn't supporting Ron Paul for President, doesn't make him a sham. I supported Ron Paul back in 2008, but I don't believe Ron Paul to be the Alpha and Omega. To have blind faith in Ron Paul is only going to disappoint you. In the end, Ron Paul is only a man. He has his strengths and weaknesses like everyone else. Dick Morris is entitled to his opinion. I wouldn't decide whether I agree with someone or not simply by looking at how they feel about Paul as Pres.
@DaringWind Paul never disappoints. He gets better with age. I do agree, he is only a man, but his Ideas will spread. If his ideas don't take hold, I blame the people.. not Ron Paul.
PLEASE NOTE: By dismissing Dick Morris is similar to what others do to Dr. Paul. Others dismiss Paul for a single issue or some set of issues.
If people could learn to weigh issues that they disagree with against the whole of the person then maybe minds could be changed. As it is, Paul is not even given a chance by 50% of this country in the same way that Morris is rejected -- out-of-hand!
Morris has a good mind and is wrong on a lot of issues. But he is worth listening to for perspective.
@8chxBLhJDy9 - yeah, Dick Morris HATES Ron Paul. For that he loses countless points, no doubt. He is egregiously wrong for that.
On the other hand, Morris has a great capacity to analyze and bring into focus ideas [ie, WHY REASON INTERVIEWED HIM]. If intellectually mature, one can discern the good from the bad: weigh the good and kick out the bad, without throwing the whole of the man under the bus.
look Reason interviews a variety of people- not all of them are literate or even have intellectual depth to them. Reason interviews even those in teacher's unions, various regulators as well as heroes such as Ron Paul and Stossel. It is very naive, ignorant & even dangerous to falsely assume that just cuz someone is being interviewed by this or that, thus anything being said is either good or bad
@swu880 - read the comments from others: i am not legitimizing Morris because Reason is interviewing him. rather, i am trying to bring to light that others dismiss Morris without bringing any arguments or debate to that rejection. my interest is not to correlate the "two" but to rebuttal the constant vitriol against Morris, when Morris is probably more freedom-loving than 70-80% of this country. Morris has aptitude and 100% rejection is a waste of the talents that he does have.
@qncsc I agree with that the idea "who care how he feels about Ron Pail" but the idea of testing every school kid in the US for drugs it another question. It makes me question if he can tell good from bad. I mean supporting the war on drugs in general makes me question someone ability to tell good from bad, but a massive nation wide increase in it where we would test millions every year at the cost of billions? Really?
@Loathomar - lol. testing every kid is a whacked idea! hey, he use to be left-of-center. perhaps there is some hope. only if people who watch "reason" would not kick such people to the curb so abruptly and then r-e-a-s-o-n with such ideas, perhaps we can make progress in the US. after all, 50% of this country believes their GOD is the US Govt (imo). people commenting here should make a clear complaint and not baggage it with vitriol. the lack of reason is why the US is in this mess today!
The worst part of the libertarian movement are people like you. Always trying to excommunicate people that aren't "pure enough" in the libertarian faith.
This is politics, asshole, not a collegiate bull session. You have to make common cause with people you disagree with to get things DONE.
Hell, I saw scum Austrians trying to excommunicate Milton. A man that has done more for liberty around the world than any of you worthless commenters.
@RedTory59 - Dick Morris is brilliant! Definitely very, very intelligent. And not to recognize that as important says a lot about your interest in intelligence and perhaps your own intellect!
Dick Morris is like a machine -- ONLY analyzes strategy in regard to politics (if you have ever heard him speak). He is supremely business and never speaks without purpose. One might not agree with him. Or one might not like his incessant analytical nature. But you cannot dismiss him with such ugly canards
Dick is happy with private & charter schools as long as they are regulated by and funded by gov't redistribution for "social justice" and "fairness" via enslaving some to provide gov't "benefits" for others.
Truth: It's just TOO EASY to spend OTHER people's money!
It's simple: get rid of the DOE and get the teachers unions out of the classroom. Allow teachers to teach; support the concept that students must study and not just prepare for government mandated tests.
The result and cost of such a fix: proud, industrious and well educated students and a huge refund of taxpayer dollars.
Ask Mr. Morris whether that "school choice" means the choice to not be coerced to participate with the criminal state? Giving me the choice between poop and shit it seems?
Some have mentioned this, but some voucher laws aren't all they're cracked up to be. Some states are enacting voucher programs, but with strings attached & the state Dept. of Ed looking over their shoulder. AZ's tax credit program (which was upheld by the SCOTUS) is a good start.
UTubekookdetector 6 months ago
vouchers= the education industrial complex! i cannot grasp how Reason can support this boondoggle?!
58robbo 6 months ago
Hmm 5% of charters are good? Where would you find quantitative data to support that? Diane has spoke out against using standardized testing as a measure. On that account, I agree with her. But without a state mandated curriculum, how does one suppose that students without those restrictions on their teachers perform. When public schools mold the curriculum around the test in order to receive more funding? As
mitziedoll 6 months ago
I wonder if that interview was awkward for Matt Welch to conduct.... I Imagine that it was as excruciating as having his nuts in a vice. That's at least how it would have felt for me. I'm guessing it was more of a promotional thing for searches on youtube to gain more exposure with the right...
Jidster01 6 months ago
what happens when everyone wants to go to the best school?
starrychloe 7 months ago
So...Reason is doing interviews with clowns now?? Is Bozo next?
GetMeThere1 7 months ago
Women are about 50-50 in party affiliation, by the way.
CountArtha 7 months ago
hahahah dick morris talking about civil liberties!??? f*ck you dick morris you tool.
flyinbry 7 months ago
Wooo Heck yah Love this Wish it was so when I was a Kid..
Xxoax 7 months ago
Save our Schools!
End the Progressive Union's Strangle Hold and END the Gov't MONOPOLY!
Progressivism is a political attitude favoring or advocating changes or reform through governmental action
Governmental Action = Socialism & Fascism!
Bring REAL competition & REAL consequences to teachers for success AND failure!
Save our Schools, Save our Children!
Dump BAD teachers!
Close failing Government schools!
yakyakyak69 7 months ago 2
“I strongly oppose Ron Paul,” Morris said. “I think he’s horrific. He wants us to end the War on Drugs. He wants us to end the War on Terror.”
“Do you think we’re winning the war on drugs?” Schiff interjected.
“No, because we’re not fighting it,” Morris replied.
“We’re not fighting it?” Schiff asked. “We don’t have enough laws against drugs?”
“No,” Morris replied. “We should drug test every high school student. We should drug test everybody that gets a student loan...”
revelationary 7 months ago
New low for ReasonTV this man helped destroy freedom in this country
trexx32 7 months ago
Public School Unions thugs are holding our kids and their futures hostage we must escape the plantation.
grandconjunct 7 months ago
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grandconjunct 7 months ago
Dick Morris is the embodiement of evil.
ron paul 2012
BigDaddyDJD 7 months ago
We should accept any support on libertarian policies we can get. Side with the right on some issues and with the left on others.
bullpcp 7 months ago
i agree DM has more than his share of flaws,but he was,along with David Gergen,one of the smartest political operators out there.remember,libertarians,he was the guy who persuaded clinton to sign welfare reform in 96.so maybe school choice will gain support with the democrats if he supports it.
nphanlon1973 7 months ago
Bullshit
TylerNutify 7 months ago
To all the haters: I agree Dick Morris is a tool. But I, for as long as I am politically active, will always welcome others to agree with me. Coalitions are wonderful - coalitions of compromise. Compromise is what's destroyed this country. Period. So, to thank, I welcome and thank Dick Morris, even if he's a total tool in many other respects
Buergs323 7 months ago 9
Not the same without Matt Damon.
loszhor 7 months ago
Just listened to that interview with Peter Schiff, Reason shame on you to even validate this asshole!!!
elricmlbone 7 months ago 14
@elricmlbone If you only look to people who are 100% libertarian, you're not going to get far. Reason is pretty good at picking allies for specific causes without actually supporting or endorsing those allies. They'll take in nanny state Democrats on the few issues in which they want more freedom, such as gay rights, and they'll take in neo-con Republicans where they're willing to cut spending, but ditch them where they start advocating for conservative boondoggles.
Megabyxos 7 months ago 2
@Megabyxos I, like Ron Paul, will not compromise on my principles. Go watch the video then reply to me. The man is riding the free market school issue but is a total jerk about civil liberties. For too long we have gotten into bed with people just because they agree with us on a single issue but over all they are either neo-cons
or progressives or anti-civil liberties. It is time we we stood for our beliefs and not waver.
elricmlbone 7 months ago
@Megabyxos
For sure. Too many libertarians are determined to have as little influence as humanly possible. You can't let perfect be the enemy of good. I love the fact that even some big lefties like Corey Booker support school choice. The more the merrier I say.
limited1defined 7 months ago
@elricmlbone I heard it live. I love Schiff.
Morris is a weazel, complete sack.
Sounds like he's on helium too.
Real annoying.
davematherly 7 months ago
@stefminus - yes, i thought that too (but i am actually a fan of Morris, for his ability to think).
qncsc 7 months ago
The first automobiles, computers, planes, etc were not very impressive. Fortunately the free market had the liberty to follow through, experiment, fail, succeed, and weed out the bad ideas. Imagine if government had banned the Wright Flyer because it was not "safe and effective"?
Imagine what the free market could do with education!
On the other hand you could always go the homeschool route, school choice now, with out the politicians.
XCritonX 7 months ago
@XCritonX - homeschool is an excellent model. too bad kids miss out on a lot of social interaction with larger groups. and not every child comes from a home that is equipped to educate a child.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I hearty disagree that homeschooled kids miss out on any useful social interaction. Children learn mature and productive adult behavior best when they interact with adults. As a homeschooled kid I involved myself with various charities and even started a successful business that grew to have 50 employees, all adults. My parents had nothing to do with my homeschooling, it was my choice and I took responsibility for it. I taught myself with the help of books, adult mentors and experience.
XCritonX 7 months ago
@XCritonX - yes, but unlike some who are gifted with great parents, you are unique and special. and i mean that. but you are a great example to what we need to see more of in students: individual effort and thought and responsibility for their education.
qncsc 7 months ago
BTW, the charter school law passed in Indiana is total shit. It allows over 30 groups to certify Charter Schools. Recently, the Mayor of Indianpolis tried to shut down a shitty charter school, all that school did was go to Ball State to certify it operating. About 80% of Indiana charter schools are shit, 15% ok and 5% good, some fucking choice.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - perhaps if we had Charters for 4 decades, we would have had the competition to innovate the "best practices" models, instead of these baby-steps, starter-charters (or shit as you call them). innovation is the same in all arenas: it all looks like shit in the beginning. with drive and creativity and competing models, eventually winners shake out and improvements are made. THAT IS JUST FUCKING LIFE.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc Charter schools have been around for a while, offer nothing better and are usually worse. Less experienced teachers, creaming off the smarter better behaved students, fucking disability students in violation of the law, that's what Charter Schools are about. That's been going on for a while and will get worse now that there are greedy Hedge Fund Managers trying to cash in building new buildings at public expense.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - interesting points. and jaded too. not to say that there is not corruption...since money is involved. the problems that you are pointing to are manageable: ultimately, in aggregate, competition will be the supreme enforcer, if fluidity of funds and students are allowed to gravitate to sincere educators, driving results. most parents will drive their children to performance. currently, many are stuck. (or given the state of US ed today, most are stuck).
qncsc 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - anyway, a bigger problem is probably "job training." something like 40% of US jobs are now low-wage jobs. thanks to Chindia, global wage-arbitrage is decimating industry after industry re employment (similar to how the Internet impacted markets). we are probably too educated at this time (US). i am a big believer in high-tech but the current system has little means to impact current students in a meaningful disruptive way to alter the destiny of those not already fortunate
qncsc 7 months ago
Charter Schools need added bureaucracy and regulation. What has been shown with Charter Schools if there is a way to cheat, scam and rip off taxpayers & students, sleazy charter schools will do it. I thought libertarians were against more regulation, so Reason TV must be getting paid by the Koch Brothers to whore out their principles with a lying scumbag like Dick Morris.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - why do Charter Schools need added regs? and is that "supposed" bureaucracy and regulation anything in comparison to the DOE? oh, come on. no one...no one is going to buy that comparison! the ONLY regulation that is needed is the end results of scores on examinations to determine effectiveness, competitiveness, competency and preparation respective to other students.
show me a composite of scores and there you have your regulation!
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I've looked at the Indiana Department of Education test scores for charter schools. There almost all inferior shit, Signature School in Evansville a lone exception. If I can find that, then you can. With a public school, you have public rosters of employees with emails/phone numbers to contact them. You don't have that with charter schools, especially with fucking Gulen Turk schools committing massive visa fraud to import turks kicking back 40% of their salaries.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - well i have looked at the city of Detroit's scores. they suck worse than anything on the planet. education is broke all the way around. criminals posing as educators are the problem in either system: public school teachers cheating on exams or ... as you pointed out. criminality is not a viable excuse. the model for innovation (if open because of taxpayer monies) will win... every system of competition reflects this. (my 2 cents -- thanks for the specific illustrations).
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I never claimed there weren't terrible public schools. Words like "innovation" are meaningless without specific examples. I like the concept of 1 teacher for a group of students for 3 years in K-8 (it's 5 years in Finland) with Detroit. Allow for a education& parental involvement a more stable environment, . I don't see charter schools being able to do that, they have a great track record of simply expelling problem students and have far higher teacher turnover.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - i don't doubt the problems that you outline. however, if public schools have found a successful strategy (as you identified), in an open, competitive system, someone will pick that up and run with it. just think what you would do if you managed a school and how you would work to make it better, if allowed autonomy to compete. you would look for the best approaches. similarly, someone else will too. you and others will have to account for the results. theory for innovation/change
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc Theres a free flow of ideas in Education with journals, conferences, classes ect. Education isn't a case of building a better TV and getting a patent on it for innovation. What I see happening in Indiana is appalling with that state charter law, but Dick Morris is gloating about it, goes to show he's either stupid as fuck or is a conman pandering to libertarians, its a license for fly by night crooked hucksters to rip off students education and taxpayer money.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 - don't know Indiana. Morris has a good mind (generally) but could be off on this or perhaps it is a "talking point" of a political nature (unfortunately). perhaps we a have a difference (from you and those like me) that believe competition leads to innovation. all industries were loaded with hucksters (if you know some business history). eventually, (and especially technical areas) frauds and charlatans are identified. in some ways schools are in a better position with exams...
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc An "innovation" Horizon (Gulen) School of Cleveland has is accepting 150 9th graders and only graduating 60 12th graders. 90 students leave yet test scores are only marginally higher, made a vid where I present their side in full. Fucking Turks boot out any problem students to schools that have to accept those problems. Another innovation: noncompliant ADA facility. Face it, this school choice phrase is a buzzword for destroying public education
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 "fly by night crooked hucksters who rip off students education and taxpayer money"? Sounds like the definition of politically motivated teachers union thugs to me.
Do you really think that politicians and bureaucrats are smarter than everyone else? Because in the government controlled education system the politicians and bureaucrats make all of the decisions. I prefer a free education market where the users make the decisions, even if they sometimes make bad decisions.
XCritonX 7 months ago
@XCritonX I can contact my local public school officials by name & email, attend school board meetings, even vote for a school board. I can't do any of that with the nearby charter schools where there is a millionaire making lots of money while providing lousy student test scores and advertising touting his shit as being steak. A managed monopoly has far more accountability, checks and balances, than the millionaire .
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 Do you go to the schools in question? If not you have no business or right to pry into someone elses business. Busybodies and nannies always want to "know" whats happening in someone elses domain.
If you have a problem with a hard working productive person getting rich of of the labor of his work and investment risk you would hate to see how the school union thugs get rich off of providing crap educations at public schools world wide.
XCritonX 7 months ago
@XCritonX Wow, taxpayers have the right to expect accountability from taxpayer funded entities. Public education is a concern of the public, its not a private company. There are parasites running charter schools getting rich, not hard working productive people.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 its possible that certain charter schools are not performing upto mark, but the same can be said of regualr public schools. There are many communities in which the poor depend on the charter school, as it is the only plae that can provide a good education for thier children that is free. Look into the KIPP program, teachers and students are in school for way longer than unions whould normally allow, but the school belives longer school days are a must.
dogagas 7 months ago
@dogagas KIPP schools are shit precisely because they have longer days. Who the hell thinks that gives higher scores? It merely weeds those bored by such a structure (I know I would hate that shit) who generally have lower scores. KIPP weeds out 60% of those in the 5th grade by the 8th grade. KIPP also spends huge amounts on overhead selling their shit sandwich as steak. The states without teacher unions have far shittier schools than union states, so all you've got is antiunion bullshit.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@dogagas BTW, KIPP also engages in disparate impact discrimination against those with LD's and brazen overt discrimination against those who aren't speaking english as a 1st language. Sooner or later, lawsuits will be filed against KIPP and they will lose. Finally, Bill Gates props up his KIPP with extra money for his ego, that makes the argument that schools need more tax dollars.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 im not saying the system is perfet, but it has worked for countless kids, and was started by teachers themselves. SO what if BIll Gates is funding it, what does that have to do with anything. The fact of the matter is you have to be severely ideologially biased to not see what is right in front of you. The parents themselves are the main campaigners for school choice, not some corporate shills.
dogagas 7 months ago
@robertmike57 As for kids with LD or language barriers, the beauty of school choice is that you can have enitre charters dedicated to these kinds of children, or if there isnt enough of a market for it, you an just go with anti disrimination laws. The parents and community organizers in all underpriveleged areas have prefered school choice, the only ones against it are unions, the candidates they lobby and Matt Damon (who prolly lives in a neighbourhood that makes this a non-issue for his kids)
dogagas 7 months ago
@dogagas A public common is public education, it's not buying a sack of groceries from a better supermarket. Hell, you can toss bad groceries, but you charter school idiots love tossing children future for the rich hedge fund managers and millionaire school profiteers, which self promoting KIPP does as well with 60% dropout rate. And you're a fucking liar about parents wanting school choice in underprivleged areas, it's schools to be as good as what better areas get.
robertmike57 7 months ago
and im not buying your bored kids argument, many of the kids who go to KIPP were not excelling in public school, They were underperforming in regular school, and therfore transferred to KIPPand longer hours helped them. You know, its disheartening to see you take a shit on hard working teachers who are genuinely dedicated to children, i guess its ok to criticize non-unionized teachers. They may be ideologically opposed to you, but they do try to offer more than a shit sandwhich to the kids.
dogagas 7 months ago
@dogagas Way to go with your non sequitar. I didn't criticize KIPP school teachers, hell, don't know or care if they're union, didn't say there weren't kids who improved performance . What you do is to show your hated toward unions, that's consistent with the Koch Brothers assault on america . I explain why KIPP is shit, you refute none of it.
robertmike57 7 months ago
@robertmike57 no, all you've done is point out the flaws of a system that has had many benefits for many kids. Your only argument against KIPP is that it doesnt extend its benefits to all kids, yet even you cannot deny the fact that it has worked miracles on kids who were previously deemed unteachable. . ANd the parents of California voted for the Trigger, a law that allows parents a lot more control over schools, and forces some schools to turn charter, I am not lying about parental support.
dogagas 6 months ago
@dogagas Trigger in California is mostly about hucksters and conmen coming in school districts and getting a few parents to help make them rich. And KIPP hasn't worked miracles on kids deemed unteachable, it boots those kids out.
robertmike57 6 months ago
@robertmike57 the fact that you feel the need to throw out all the good charter schools are doing, and demonize all that support them shows that youre ideologically driven, not result oriented. KIPP improves the academic performance of many of its students. Studies have shown this. Your criticisms are valid, and should be adressed, but you shouldnt skew the impact of a basically good organisation. Nothing is perfect, honest conversation will lead us to a better tomorrow. Abandon ideology tho.
dogagas 6 months ago
@dogagas I go with Diane Ravitch's assessment that 5% of charter schools are good, she's the expert, I do my own reading/vids reaching a similar conclusion. I have never said all charter schools are bad, know a few are good. Nor KIPP is bad, it's just no better than its additional funding & propaganda. The faux libertarian goal (Reason TV is a Koch front) is to destroy public education by any means necessary . When Reason TV does a 10 minute interview with Ravitch, I might change my mind.
robertmike57 6 months ago
those here treat Morris the way others treat Paul -- oh, the irony!
qncsc 7 months ago
Dick is a moral willow; bending whichever the popular moral wind blows.
radiovan1 7 months ago
Dick Morris is a Foxbot.
whoo689 7 months ago
So basically 9 people like it when the school system forces their kids to go to schools they don't want too, is that what I'm understanding right now? Fucking retarded people I swear
Somespatanwarrior 7 months ago
@Somespatanwarrior I disliked this because of Dick Morris being in the video. Thats all.
Bmanstudios101 7 months ago
@Somespatanwarrior - Agreed. I'm all for school choice, but are US parents ready for it? Most don't have a clue. Not only wouldn't they know a good/bad school when they see one, they'd be very unlikely to choose "good fit" school for their child and would probably base their decisions on what they'd want for themselves. I see it all the time.
Parents need to be much more involved in their child's education - as they are in the countries achieving better results.
MiranUT 7 months ago
@eyeofscrutiny mandatory drug testing for all public schools. Thanks for reminding me.
schell939 7 months ago
Dick Morris is a hypocrite. I do remember that he said that he wants all kids drug tested. Should state officials me allowed to force their way into people's homes and drug test them, Mr. Morris?
EyeOfScrutiny 7 months ago
Did anyone hear dick Morris on Peter Schiff radio? Lmao, he hung up once peter exposed him for being a sellout! Ron Paul 2012!
schell939 7 months ago
school choice good Dick Morris very very BAD
greygoozz 7 months ago
Dick Morris is a Dick.
BillPigg 7 months ago
Morris is middle to moderately-right. He is not conservative or libertarian. However, his support for this issue shows how broad the appeal of school choice is. It is not just a right-wing and libertarian issue anymore.
crusky 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9 - yes, i think most people supporting Paul are behind his ideas. Paul has a personality that are the opposite of a Clinton-Obama (or star power). anyone supporting Paul has to be doing it for the ideas, mostly. if only Paul had star power...wow!
(how did you go O? sorry, but i have a particular hate for people that accepted this criminal into the office. he should be impeached for driving trillion dollar deficits and stating that he knows nothing about economics).
qncsc 7 months ago
Know one should doubt Morris' political influence. The fact that he is on the side of reason (or Reason) in the school choice debate is something that should be celebrated. Dr. Paul also chooses his alliances along those lines.
Russkiyspy 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9 Another thing about Morris is that he's not above changing his beliefs when proven wrong. He used to be liberal until the other Ron (Reagan) converted him. Regardless of whether you like RR or Morris, it shows that Morris is capable of evolution. Perhaps even capable of becoming a RP supporter.
DaringWind 7 months ago
@DaringWind - exactly. i have seen Morris evolve. he should get points for that. instead he is vilified...and for what? i do not know, as others just do a "drive-by verbal assault" never stating a reasoned claim (lol). if anyone listened to Morris and are intelligent, i think would appreciate some of his analysis. everyone can be a mixed-bag and i don't know why Morris is hated-outright.
coincidentally, those here treat Morris the way others treat Paul -- oh, the irony!
qncsc 7 months ago
Dick Morris makes some interesting points on this issue.
SunsetDetail 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9 I don't think you view as Paul as God, but I do believe you are putting too much importance on the man rather than the idea. I may not always agree with Dick Morris, but I won't always disagree with him just because he's not a RP supporter. I think Morris is right on school choice, so I would rather use him as an ally for this particular issue. When Dick Morris is wrong, then I'll argue with him.
DaringWind 7 months ago
School of choice Fucked my school district
frostbytet17 7 months ago
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@frostbytet17 - "School of choice Fucked my school district" -- why? i am sure others would like an idea of the drawbacks!
qncsc 7 months ago
No Dick Morris is no libertarian, but so what? Shouldn't we be happy that school choice has a wide spectrum of support? The movement won't go anywhere with this kind of childish crap.
danmcdonald22 7 months ago
HATERS:
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to those that hate "the Dick" -- do you have specific and concrete analysis that determines how you have gotten to your position -- or are you just riding the popular bandwagon of the moment?
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc Yes... my concrete analysis is that he is an ass bag. I wish it was the popular view...
theoriginalanomaly 7 months ago
Dick Morris, you are a douche bag... That's right, a douche bag.
wizkid2000 7 months ago
Dick Morris is a Horrific Horrific Horrific Man. Did I mention I don't like him. He's an Ass. Also, I'm glad his name is Dick, because it suits him. Maybe he will Choke on one soon, and then we don't have to hear the Santorum flow from his Fat Face..
DonSolo52 7 months ago
I don't believe anyone who believe that we should test every school kid for drugs could ever really care about liberty. My guess would be the man is a political prostitute willing to support any movement that will pay him to speak for them.
Loathomar 7 months ago
@Loathomar - disagree. he has "liberty-like" views in regard to health-care and education and commerce. his views are better than 70-80% of the US. but maybe not as strong as those that come here. i am far more concerned about the 50% voting Obama, while we have 1 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS. how Obama is not impeached...and we are not organizing to storm the capitol! yet, we gnash teeth over a political strategist?
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc Cause Obama is totally to blame for the economy... Cause we all know the the US president controls the world economics and can change as they feel... Or not. So, you think Obama should have done what? Increase or keep taxes normal? Let all major banks in the US fall? Slashed government jobs by 30-40%, increasing unemployment by 5-10% over night? Please, do tell me what you would have done and I can tell you the problems are with it.
Loathomar 7 months ago
@Loathomar - leadership. he should have resolved to return federal spending to 03 levels; interdicted on several int'l trade agreements that are creating a "wage-arbitrage" war for global talent that the US employee cannot win; lead on addressing incentives that allow multinationals to expand globally, plants and ultimate r&d. the US banks failing is a canard: he should have set-up an alternate tier of banks, capitalized and allowed the tbtf's to fail...
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qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc There is no way to drop back to '03 levels without truly massive government lay off, trade leads to increase in prosperity not a decrease, or have you never taken a econ class. Without trade the US standard of living with halve over night. What incentives? Allow the big banks to fail would cause a run on all banks cause basically all banks to fail. The US Government could then set government owned banks, cause that would be both cheap and effect, right? 3 fails and an incomplete...
Loathomar 7 months ago
@Loathomar - i am not going to even argue your replies. i know my education level on economics is far greater than yours without even requesting info on your background. and your replies are thoughtless and only argumentative; you haven't even seriously considered what i wrote. what a waste! find someone else to run your screeds by. if you reply to me, i will just laugh! sorry! ... you have been suckered with your accepted disinfo and to get you up to speed would be nightmarishly long!
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I'm sorry, what economic school of though wants to end trade? Please, do tell me... And what school of thought does the idea that when major banks fail and close, people will not try to withdraw all their money from the other smaller banks because they fear their bank will be next? This is known as a run on a bank, but I am sure you knew this, so clear you had a plan to stop people from making a run on the smaller banks when the big bank fail, so please explain.
Loathomar 7 months ago
@Loathomar - as i said "nightmarishly long." sorry. start with econ 101. then work your way up to a phd from a top school. thanks for playing.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc It would be long to list the school of though in econ that say trade is a bad thing? Wow, really? Come on, just giving me some links to per review publish econ papers that agree with your state thoughts, that's not long and if you had a PhD you could simply send me your own work on the subject. We are talking about maybe 250 characters here tops. So, please just link some peer review articulars from PhD economics that say trade is bad, or the US would be fine with massive bank failure.
Loathomar 7 months ago
Fuck Dick Morris.
WintersAscension 7 months ago
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qncsc 7 months ago
His view of what America should be is as rotten as his teeth.
chronDiggity 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9 Just because Dick Morris isn't supporting Ron Paul for President, doesn't make him a sham. I supported Ron Paul back in 2008, but I don't believe Ron Paul to be the Alpha and Omega. To have blind faith in Ron Paul is only going to disappoint you. In the end, Ron Paul is only a man. He has his strengths and weaknesses like everyone else. Dick Morris is entitled to his opinion. I wouldn't decide whether I agree with someone or not simply by looking at how they feel about Paul as Pres.
DaringWind 7 months ago
@DaringWind Paul never disappoints. He gets better with age. I do agree, he is only a man, but his Ideas will spread. If his ideas don't take hold, I blame the people.. not Ron Paul.
DonSolo52 7 months ago
Can't believe this dimwit gets paid for this. Ron Paul 2012!
LeifEiriksson 7 months ago
State of education -- watch this on Detroit (funny if this were not so pathetic):
watch?v=9dBbZFXr05U
qncsc 7 months ago
PLEASE NOTE: By dismissing Dick Morris is similar to what others do to Dr. Paul. Others dismiss Paul for a single issue or some set of issues.
If people could learn to weigh issues that they disagree with against the whole of the person then maybe minds could be changed. As it is, Paul is not even given a chance by 50% of this country in the same way that Morris is rejected -- out-of-hand!
Morris has a good mind and is wrong on a lot of issues. But he is worth listening to for perspective.
qncsc 7 months ago
The Japanese spend much less then we do but the achieve higher scores. Libs just want to throw other people's money at everything.
DiNatalli 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9 - yeah, Dick Morris HATES Ron Paul. For that he loses countless points, no doubt. He is egregiously wrong for that.
On the other hand, Morris has a great capacity to analyze and bring into focus ideas [ie, WHY REASON INTERVIEWED HIM]. If intellectually mature, one can discern the good from the bad: weigh the good and kick out the bad, without throwing the whole of the man under the bus.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc
look Reason interviews a variety of people- not all of them are literate or even have intellectual depth to them. Reason interviews even those in teacher's unions, various regulators as well as heroes such as Ron Paul and Stossel. It is very naive, ignorant & even dangerous to falsely assume that just cuz someone is being interviewed by this or that, thus anything being said is either good or bad
swu880 7 months ago
@swu880
Those of any intellectually honesty would look at the content closely & not merely ad homonize it
swu880 7 months ago
@swu880 - read the comments from others: i am not legitimizing Morris because Reason is interviewing him. rather, i am trying to bring to light that others dismiss Morris without bringing any arguments or debate to that rejection. my interest is not to correlate the "two" but to rebuttal the constant vitriol against Morris, when Morris is probably more freedom-loving than 70-80% of this country. Morris has aptitude and 100% rejection is a waste of the talents that he does have.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I agree with that the idea "who care how he feels about Ron Pail" but the idea of testing every school kid in the US for drugs it another question. It makes me question if he can tell good from bad. I mean supporting the war on drugs in general makes me question someone ability to tell good from bad, but a massive nation wide increase in it where we would test millions every year at the cost of billions? Really?
Loathomar 7 months ago
@Loathomar - lol. testing every kid is a whacked idea! hey, he use to be left-of-center. perhaps there is some hope. only if people who watch "reason" would not kick such people to the curb so abruptly and then r-e-a-s-o-n with such ideas, perhaps we can make progress in the US. after all, 50% of this country believes their GOD is the US Govt (imo). people commenting here should make a clear complaint and not baggage it with vitriol. the lack of reason is why the US is in this mess today!
qncsc 7 months ago
Despite his views on education, Dick Morris is a rotten piece of cow dung.
Dedhedted71 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9
The worst part of the libertarian movement are people like you. Always trying to excommunicate people that aren't "pure enough" in the libertarian faith.
This is politics, asshole, not a collegiate bull session. You have to make common cause with people you disagree with to get things DONE.
Hell, I saw scum Austrians trying to excommunicate Milton. A man that has done more for liberty around the world than any of you worthless commenters.
And before you ask, YES I AM MAD.
AngrySkeptic 7 months ago
@AngrySkeptic - you're mad...well, you are the ANGRY skeptic! lol!
qncsc 7 months ago
Easily one of the most loathsome, sleazy douchebags in politics.
RedTory59 7 months ago
@RedTory59 - Dick Morris is brilliant! Definitely very, very intelligent. And not to recognize that as important says a lot about your interest in intelligence and perhaps your own intellect!
Dick Morris is like a machine -- ONLY analyzes strategy in regard to politics (if you have ever heard him speak). He is supremely business and never speaks without purpose. One might not agree with him. Or one might not like his incessant analytical nature. But you cannot dismiss him with such ugly canards
qncsc 7 months ago
Dick is just ANOTHER statist worm!
Watch: "Statism's Assembly Line" here on YouTube.
Dick is happy with private & charter schools as long as they are regulated by and funded by gov't redistribution for "social justice" and "fairness" via enslaving some to provide gov't "benefits" for others.
Truth: It's just TOO EASY to spend OTHER people's money!
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Kitswain59 7 months ago
Harvey Fierstein makes a good point.
eirefrance 7 months ago
It's simple: get rid of the DOE and get the teachers unions out of the classroom. Allow teachers to teach; support the concept that students must study and not just prepare for government mandated tests.
The result and cost of such a fix: proud, industrious and well educated students and a huge refund of taxpayer dollars.
mrbill2600 7 months ago
@8chxBLhJDy9 I heard that interview and it shows who Morris really is - no friend of liberty.
glennd7962 7 months ago 30
Dick Morris is a dick, meh.
ladyattis 7 months ago
Dick Morris looks like he just ate a baby.
glennd7962 7 months ago
Ask Mr. Morris whether that "school choice" means the choice to not be coerced to participate with the criminal state? Giving me the choice between poop and shit it seems?
AngryHateMusic 7 months ago