I can draw and play guitar like a master... people that doenst know me say: oohh you got talent! it must be fantastic to have this "gift" with you from you were born!... While they who do knows me say: Damn you are good! by the way, Im going to visit this friend, and would love you to come with me, but I guess you dont have time? <-- I may or may not, cause they know I spend 4+ hours a day drawing/painting and 4+ with the guitar, from 3-4 years old.. and now Im almost 33 and still do it! :)
There is talent. There is knowledge and practice. And there is people with TALENT and Knowledge, and those are the great ones.
I'm an illustrator, i've met many many many illustrators that practice a lot of hours a day, and they are still not as good as others that practice, maybe 3 times a week. That is talent
@GnomoLD its not how long u practice its what you practice, i could draw doodles from my mind 10 hours a day and be worse then someone that did stills life's an hour a day.
@element1988 Yup i Agree. It's called "perfect practice" i read about it once in a guitar book. You could spend days practicing nothing and wasting time. You should check out that book and apply it to whatever you do
@GnomoLD its more like.... those you say that practice lots of hours but still arent "that" good, arent practicing the right stuff! While those who are "Talented" are more probably "doing it" (the right stuff) :P
2friends, both went to same guitar teacher (together), and they got same stuff to learn each!, still just one did play great, while the other just good.. the difference?.. The "great" player kept practicing the stuff he had trouble with, the other just played what he was good at!
I've had people say my 6 year old daughter has great artistic talent. It isn't inherited or some magic talent. I am an artist and had her drawing foundational shapes and then using them in combination to do more advanced drawing as she got older. That magical artistic talent is just someone that started drawing earlier than anyone else. It is all learned. And can be learned at age 6 or 60 it doesn't matter.
It's not "talent"! If it was "talent" then you couldn't learn it, you'd have to be "born with it". I hate the misconception that artists "have something" that others don't. Practice and hard work we have. I've known probably 1000+ artists in my career and I know of only one who had an intuitive sense of design that was better then most. He's not even a working artist these days. It's skill and continual study and hard work for 99.9999% of us.
Of course there is such thing as natural inherent talent, not to say that hard work isn't needed to develop that talent, after any artist has learned their skills they realize that it is talent that makes outstanding artists or anyone gifted in their feild. Leonardo didn't work at his art full time like Renoir did (who didn't have as much talent) Leonardo only completed 12 paintings all masterpieces.
I agree with you all, but i do believe that an artist who inherited the talent does have an advantage over one who didnt because it comes easier and more natural to the person.
@raceme914 youre right. But how does one really know whether hes talented or not? lets say youre talented when it comes to great designs and composition, but youll never know because you only draw anatomy. :-)
feral714, I totally agree. Usually people who believe in talent don't believe in themselves and never try hard enough since they feel they don't have talent. Those that are very good right from the beginning never turn out to tbe the world's best in the end. The ones that work hard like Muhammad Ali, Michael Schumacher, Dali, Michale Jordan That goes for sports, arts, music, extreme savants being the exception, but they usually lack something in their work.
Actually music requires something special, a certain kind of vocal cords. One can learn theory of music, can learn to sing correctly, but can't have the 'voice' :) But art is indeed mostly about practice, although it can't be done right without some intuition and understanding of volumes.
@feral714 First of all, you obviously don't understan what talent is. Talent is something that is performed at ease and doesn't require a large amount of experience. You can't be born with natural abilities to draw. You are not born knowing shapes and formulas that are needed to draw. Drawing is simply an interpretation.You can only modify what you see mentally and what you see in reality. Talent was only used to describe people with natural abilities an artistic fields.
Ron Lemen is a wizard. He taught me to draw. Thank you Wizard Ron. Thank you.
thelittlestsponge 1 week ago
I can draw and play guitar like a master... people that doenst know me say: oohh you got talent! it must be fantastic to have this "gift" with you from you were born!... While they who do knows me say: Damn you are good! by the way, Im going to visit this friend, and would love you to come with me, but I guess you dont have time? <-- I may or may not, cause they know I spend 4+ hours a day drawing/painting and 4+ with the guitar, from 3-4 years old.. and now Im almost 33 and still do it! :)
ZidokTV 3 months ago
There is talent. There is knowledge and practice. And there is people with TALENT and Knowledge, and those are the great ones.
I'm an illustrator, i've met many many many illustrators that practice a lot of hours a day, and they are still not as good as others that practice, maybe 3 times a week. That is talent
Of course, talent without practice equals nothing
GnomoLD 10 months ago
@GnomoLD its not how long u practice its what you practice, i could draw doodles from my mind 10 hours a day and be worse then someone that did stills life's an hour a day.
element1988 7 months ago
@element1988 Yup i Agree. It's called "perfect practice" i read about it once in a guitar book. You could spend days practicing nothing and wasting time. You should check out that book and apply it to whatever you do
GnomoLD 7 months ago
@GnomoLD its more like.... those you say that practice lots of hours but still arent "that" good, arent practicing the right stuff! While those who are "Talented" are more probably "doing it" (the right stuff) :P
2friends, both went to same guitar teacher (together), and they got same stuff to learn each!, still just one did play great, while the other just good.. the difference?.. The "great" player kept practicing the stuff he had trouble with, the other just played what he was good at!
ZidokTV 3 months ago
@ZidokTV fantastic reply
GnomoLD 3 weeks ago
In person, I've seen Ron bust out a photo-realistic portrait with absolutely no model. He has serious skillz
N8trone 1 year ago
true art skills can be learned(duh), but to be an outstanding artist you MUST have talent. This is pretty obvious.
neonaction 1 year ago
Skills can be develop but lets not forget that there are people who are born with artistic and music talent!!!!
ppdumas 2 years ago
I've had people say my 6 year old daughter has great artistic talent. It isn't inherited or some magic talent. I am an artist and had her drawing foundational shapes and then using them in combination to do more advanced drawing as she got older. That magical artistic talent is just someone that started drawing earlier than anyone else. It is all learned. And can be learned at age 6 or 60 it doesn't matter.
grafikimon 2 years ago 11
John William Waterhouse and other top artists of his era- much much better
OhMymy 4 years ago
indeed talent is a myth !
designernasser 4 years ago 2
It's not "talent"! If it was "talent" then you couldn't learn it, you'd have to be "born with it". I hate the misconception that artists "have something" that others don't. Practice and hard work we have. I've known probably 1000+ artists in my career and I know of only one who had an intuitive sense of design that was better then most. He's not even a working artist these days. It's skill and continual study and hard work for 99.9999% of us.
feral714 4 years ago 32
Of course there is such thing as natural inherent talent, not to say that hard work isn't needed to develop that talent, after any artist has learned their skills they realize that it is talent that makes outstanding artists or anyone gifted in their feild. Leonardo didn't work at his art full time like Renoir did (who didn't have as much talent) Leonardo only completed 12 paintings all masterpieces.
llerdy 3 years ago
I agree with you all, but i do believe that an artist who inherited the talent does have an advantage over one who didnt because it comes easier and more natural to the person.
raceme914 2 years ago
@raceme914 youre right. But how does one really know whether hes talented or not? lets say youre talented when it comes to great designs and composition, but youll never know because you only draw anatomy. :-)
1234Colt 1 year ago
feral714, I totally agree. Usually people who believe in talent don't believe in themselves and never try hard enough since they feel they don't have talent. Those that are very good right from the beginning never turn out to tbe the world's best in the end. The ones that work hard like Muhammad Ali, Michael Schumacher, Dali, Michale Jordan That goes for sports, arts, music, extreme savants being the exception, but they usually lack something in their work.
gusphraba 3 years ago
Actually music requires something special, a certain kind of vocal cords. One can learn theory of music, can learn to sing correctly, but can't have the 'voice' :) But art is indeed mostly about practice, although it can't be done right without some intuition and understanding of volumes.
555WhiteWolf 3 years ago
skills can indeed be developed by just about anyone but ideas and imagination are not within everyone's grasps
Jameszhangdude 3 years ago
@feral714 Don't hate, my friend... haha
PostalPete 1 year ago
@feral714 First of all, you obviously don't understan what talent is. Talent is something that is performed at ease and doesn't require a large amount of experience. You can't be born with natural abilities to draw. You are not born knowing shapes and formulas that are needed to draw. Drawing is simply an interpretation.You can only modify what you see mentally and what you see in reality. Talent was only used to describe people with natural abilities an artistic fields.
IonDeity 1 year ago
@feral714 I agree 100% with you
0megaTexan 11 months ago
@feral714 you're mistaking talent with "gift". a gift is something your born with. A talent is something you learn.
iDraw3G 3 months ago
incredible. you have such talent! *sigh* perhaps one day i will be able to do that
thanx for a great vid
pinkrox1111 4 years ago
Borefest.... I was more interested in seeing the set in the background. But i guess its foundation stuff.
DeMaximo 4 years ago
great video. Alot of knowledge.
adrrach 4 years ago
I will be learning from this guy in October! I cannot wait! So exciting. ;]
mattGamer 4 years ago
Alright, now you justified why this has been taken so long! Then, how about the full version?
sophiameow 5 years ago
Great presence.
whinebelt 5 years ago
This was amazing :)
ijustine 5 years ago