Potassium Chlorate and Sugar

[cycloneash]

where can i buy Potassium Chlorate?

[DtCRaphi]

Did you ignit that with only sugar? (at the beginning)

[carlorowan]

is potassium perchlorate the same as chlorate?

[mewrox99]

@carlorowan

No potassium chlorate is KClO3 while perchlorate is KClO4.

Perchlorate is more expensive but much safer in many pyro comps.

[uut0]

in wut ratio should i mix the potassium chlorate and sugar?

[theantipants]

Being as this was a chemistry project we experimented with different ratios.

[uut0]

@theantipants well which one was the best :D?

[theantipants]

@uut0 i honestly cant remember....made this back in high school.

[chris17585]

@uut0 I have experimented with chlorate and sugar a fair bit. Experiment yourself, I found icing sugar is best used over granulated. Make sure you sieve the chlorate and sugar, I sieve it twice to ensure it is evenly mixed and free from clumps. You will know when your mix is optimal because there will be little residue (carbon left from unburned sugar) left a few specks rather than a mass. I have used a mix of 2.5 parts chlorate to 1 parts sugar for firecrackers which gave a good report (bang).

[dubstepcentral]

could i ignite thermite with potassium nitrate + sugar ?

[pimelman5]

sulfuric acid reacts with a chlorate to chloric acid and chlorine dioxide wich are really strong oxidizers. Really good experiments.

GRD

[FIREWORKSgalor]

are u igniting it with water?

[goeon]

Sulfuric acid

[Richkkee]

So you can ignite thermite with it?

[lorddoug7]

yer, but its easiest to light thermite with burning magnesium

[BeAnBeAn22]

anyone know how to add color???!!??

[glyceroltrinitrate]

They probably added a Copper(II) Salt as a colorant.

[glyceroltrinitrate]

and They probably also added a Strontium salt as a colorant for the red one.

[krazypunk50]

I have a question. If the ingredients to mix are potassium chlorate and sugar, would it be possible to substitute potassium chlorate for potassium perchlorate?

[antiswattt]

isnt potassium perchlorate just the same as just chlorate? just lesser sensitive?

[glyceroltrinitrate]

Potassium Perchlorate is more powerful than chlorate, and is less sensitive. They are similar, but not the same.

[antiswattt]

yea i know now q: but how much more powerful do you think kclo4 is than kclo3?

[glyceroltrinitrate]

Erm...

Well if i had to guess, i would say its about 33% stronger as an oxidizer.

[antiswattt]

damn :/

[jackass739]

what catalyst is used with the potassium nitrate? would ion oxide do? if so how much?

[tTatmosT]

what was the concentration of the sulfuric acid? or does it work with any concentration??

[BeAnBeAn22]

Cool I just tried this today! Mine was extra strength so I mixed with 9ml of water per 1ml of acid and it didn't work. I put one drop of regular strength and pschhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!! Make sure you have a good fume hood tho or do it outside with a durable jar. Get out of the way fast!

[MrGameAndWatch00000]

Whats the song called?

[PyroTechnix]

Rammstein - Feir Freui

[AirsoftLife]

Haha...Feur Frei is how it's spelled :P

[PyroTechnix]

If you want to be technical its "Feuer Frei"

[oFrEEzEo]

its spelled "stupd arse"

[700racer22]

where did u get the potassium Chlorate?

[lstoc12873]

bravo! 5 stars

[sandcastle136]

Once again, the best.

[zacluvr01234]

who ever did this is extremely stupid ... the gasses it emits causes cancer .... but then again so does everything else in th world

although i must say it was awsome

[11vvdd]

Notice the fume hood they were experimenting under. That's what they're made for.

[cchj768]

Can potassium chlorate create enough thrust to be a rocket?

[randomdude32]

No, it burns all too quickly, and it will be EXTREMELY dangerous when igniting the rocket.

[voltamp]

Handling c. H2SO4 without gloves. Good luck.

[PeNkNiFeLoVeLiVe]

the song is by rammstein

[XxXdontxtellxmeXxX]

Dammit im on my sisters phaggy account

[XxXdontxtellxmeXxX]

Potassium perchlorate is far more stable than potassium chlorate. Potassium chlorate is very unstable in the pressence of sulfur or phosphorus. But just because perchlorates are superior oxidisers doesnt mean all the same principles apply to them as chlorates, you shouldnt use the same ratios in propellents etc.

[centducktape]

good times ... good times

[dmforse123]

what is this song called? Crazy German music? :P

[anticop109]

its feuer frei by rammstein

[alanp4787]

haha yeah lets just fling in some thermite to spice things up a bit, was this liek a chemistry classroom experiment or something ?

[163303]

eww metal garbage

[30rifles]

where can i get this

[dmforse123]

Is potassium perchlorate and potassium chlorate the same thing?

[tardis191919]

potassium perchlorate - KClo4, potassium chlorate - KClo3. KClo4 is a stronger oxidizer

[dmforse123]

So anything you can do with potassium chlorate you can do better with potassium perchlorate? Good because i only have potassium perchlorate.

[alanp4787]

yeah thats pretty much right, it will just happen faster

[dmforse123]

cool

[11vvdd]

Actually, an oddity is that if you are making colored flame mixtures, potassium chlorate is better because it burns at a higher temperature than perchlorate does. Perchlorate is usually considered better because of it's stability added oxygen content. Other than that, perchlorate is the way to go.

[11vvdd]

I'm sorry, I totally said that wrong. Potassium chlorate burns cooler (relatively speaking) than perchlorate and that's what can make it more ideal in some colored flame compostions.

[MDHmodder]

actually chlorate simply liberates oxygen at lower tempatures. it's all in the fuel.

[theothercanadian]

isnt chlorate better for making high explosive compositions though, perchlorate is only used in flash...

[11vvdd]

You can use both in flash actually. Chlorate is much less stable though. But yeah, chlorates are better for pyrotechnics/explosives.

[theothercanadian]

yea i know, chlorate and sugar in this videa is already flash.

[wehset]

for the rocket use:

%65 kno3

%35 sugar

[darkcell92]

is this in volume or weight?

[Pikachuisblue]

hi, what ratio did you use for the rocket fuel?

I'm doing a science project for physics about rockets.

[j55]

is that powdered potassium chlorate that you are droping the sulphuric acid onto? can someone explain this please???

[kateabbgy]

what did you use to make the different colors?

[deltaalpha21074]

whomever did the thermite reaction what was it ???that was new to me -what was the mixture and the liquid that was dropped onto the thermite????never saw it done that way..

[dditzhazy]

That's a redox reaction, not a decomposition.

[wingbatknickers]

blue would be a copper salt added to the mix, strontium for red, barium for green, sodium for yellow. reduce the potassium chlorate ratio and add a chlorine donor such as powdered PVC and you will have a bright long burning flare.

[TeaBiscuits2]

bang bang

[LMF5000]

you mean sulfuric acid is required to start the reaction? Why (a chemical equation would help)?

[mahaka42]

The sulfuric acid is a catalyst

[doug123yt]

No, a catalyst isn't consumed. The acid initiates the reaction by reacting with the chlorate, in turn oxidizing the sugar or other fuel.

[dwlnetnl]

Technically a catalyst isn't consumed, but the catalyst activity decays, so over time the catalyst turns useless.

[Danieluchis]

I love how potassium looks at the flame, how did you made the blue color though O_O? make a greenish one with Ba Chlorate *_*!!!!! it looks wonderful! *geek mode lol*

[lauraemylee]

ooh pretty fie 0.0 sorry im a pyro ^^

[0Cricket0]

What was the liquid you put on it to make it ignite?

[theantipants]

sulfuric acid

[inmatejailtime]

next time make a finale :p

[life9118]

oh my gosh... so cool!

[centducktape]

hell yea biatch

ours is da shit

[jmill1211]

the anti pants strikes again!