France 1940-1945

[heb1114]

J'adore les Français! Vive la France!

[1914PREUSSE]

Du bist doch ein Ammi was erlaubst du dir eigentlich ein viedeo für den französischen wiederstand hochzuladen im glauben diese wären für den frieden in erupa, die wollten deutschland vernichten und hätten uns angegriffen wenn wir ihnen nicht zuvorgekommen wären, also stell die nicht als die armen opfer dar, den franzoden ging es unter uns ganz gut außerdem die französichen nationalisten haben uns unterstützt(vichy Frankreich)

[rexlibris99]

Oh? Germany was hardly a force for peace in 1936-1939. Hitler was the aggressor, pure and simple. I have no sympathy for the Vichyites.

[1914PREUSSE]

Sag ma willst du das nicht verstehen Frankreich wollte uns angreifen!

[rexlibris99]

Are you saying the French wanted Germany to attack? I might not be reading it right since that makes no sense.

[1914PREUSSE]

Frankreich hatte nach dem 1. weltkrieg das ruhrgebiet besetzt und wollte danach ganz westdeutschland besetzen, als rache dafür das wir 1870/71 den krieg gegen frankreich gewannen und paris besetzten, außerdem hatte frankreich in der ganzen welt nach bündnispartnern gegen deutschland gesucht, sie selbst haben ohne ende aufgerüstet, die franzosen haben den angriff auf frankreich zu einer notwendigkeit gemacht, sie haben den krieg provoziert!

[rexlibris99]

Germany was the CLEAR aggressor in 1939-1940. There is no doubt of that whatsoever. That ends the discussion.

[rexlibris99]

What about "ends the discussion" was hard to understand?

[Fridomfry]

He says that France always wanted to destroy Germany, and provoked the war in 1939... In fact, France had rejected all projects to dismantle Germany into small states, which were considered in 1919. It did not annex a single sq. meter of German soil. France had occupied the Ruhr in 1921 simply to oblige Germany to pay its war indemnities, certainly not to annex it. Same for the Saar.

Again, paranoids believe that they are surroundered with enemies.

[Briselance]

@1914PREUSSE

"sie haben den krieg provoziert!"

Ach so ? Are you a bad liar or just ill-informed.

[Fridomfry]

No, he claims that France wanted to attack Germany in the 1930s... If you remember what a lame and impotent political parliamentary regime France had at that time, it's just hilarious. Well, paranoïds always believe that their neighbours want to kill them.

Had France wanted to attack Germany, it would have intervened as soon as 1934, when Hitler started violating the Versailles treaty. We should have done that. It would have spared Dresden and millions of people.

[Briselance]

@Fridomfry

Hélas, tu a mille fois raison.

Et si Pétain n'avait pas fait la connerie de commencer la Ligne Maginot en 1926, et si on n'avait pas méprisé la chose militaire, et si on s'était dotés d'une vraie force militaire professionnelle moderne, bien entraînée, bien équipée, bien commandée, bien ravitaillée et soutenue par les civils, et si on avait écouté De Gaulle, etc.

Et si, et si ... *soupire tristement*

[muppertje]

ow, doesnt matter, does it? Its about the whole idea you want to create?

I think youre doin just fine!

[muppertje]

lol, @ 2min42 is a spitfire with Dutch marks...

[rexlibris99]

The plane was in a website on the Free French and I just didn't verify that. A quick Google check seems to indicate you're correct.

[titiboo90]

En 1942 on comptait un attentat contre les allemands toutes les 6h et en 1944 c'était 1 toutes les heures ! alors la France a-t-elle totalement déposé les armes? NON.

[Briselance]

@titiboo90

"la France a-t-elle totalement déposé les armes? "

Seuls les crétin(e)s anti-français ou les ignorant(e)s peuvent croire cette sottise.

[titiboo90]

@Briselance c'est bien ce que je cherchais a démonter

[Briselance]

@titiboo90

Si ça t'intéresse, j'ai chiné un bouquin sur le sujet :

"Les combats victorieux de la résistance Française dans la Libération. 1944-1945"

par Dominique Lormier, Éditions de la Seine (2004), avec l'autorisation des Éditions Le Cherche Midi (2002).

ISBN : 2-7382-1813-X

[titiboo90]

@Briselance merci pour la référence !

[Briselance]

@titiboo90

Mais de rien. ;-)

Il y a aussi le hors-série n°7 du magasine "Ligne de Front", de juin-juillet 2009, intitulé "Mai-juin 1940. Les combats héroïques de l'Armée Française", écrit par ... Dominique Lormier. Encore lui. ;-)

Numéro ISSN : 1958-7600.

[ricmaxter]

Grande Video que lembra a luta de homens de coragem pelo seu povo contra a tirania dos Naziz e os paises do eixo ( Italia e Japão ) , e que tiveram influencia fundamental na decisão da guerra . Do Brasil deixo saudações !!

Um Abraço !!

[Lucio1011]

Vive la France et honneur à ceux qui se se sont battu pour elle! je t'aime ô mère!

[tubi333]

Death and Rebirth!

[NerdForNone]

feel sorry for them, harsh time that time of the century..

[frphilipmullen]

Merci, rexlibris99!

Vive La France!

[Liloupop56]

Merci, a tout ceux qui se sont battu, malgré la peur et la mort pour nous. Merci pour cette video qui jous rappel ke le passé bien que passé de doit pas etre oublié.

[rexlibris99]

You are welcome.

[Liloupop56]

thanks you very much.

[galatian5]

This was a great video. The resistance fighters went through alot of pain and anger by seeing their homeland invaded and their families dispersed. The resistance soldiers did a good by becoming an eye behind enemies lines and being able to make hits on Nazi officers as spies. Godbless France.

[unterland]

Awesome video! I have an aunt that survived the Occupation--she talked about the female collaborators getting their heads shaved; I had never seen any photos of it, though.

[ji94552]

Who were the female collaborators?

[rexlibris99]

The photographs give no names. I assume they were either spies or the mistresses of Germans or Vichy French.

[ji94552]

Thank you for your reply.

I've watched a related documentary. Shaving those women's heads was not necessary. I felt sorry for those women.

[rexlibris99]

I don't mean to be harsh but, given what most of Europe suffered under the Nazis, its hard for me to feel particularly sorry for collaborators.

[ji94552]

These women were the ones who fell in love with German soldiers, nothing political. A former Resistance appeared in the documentary and she was not happy with what happened to those women. She had some harsh words for those who shaved their heads.

[Fridomfry]

You're absolutely right in principle. Yet we do not know who these women actually were: Certainly some had slept with the enemy; others may have committed worse, like denouncing resistants or jews; some may have just been victims of a jealous neighbour, as happens in all revolutions and disorderly times.

[keckjohn]

Im glad you took the time to put this video together. The French Resistance and Free French are to often forgotten in the lists of heroes of the war. They fought a desperate fight against tyranny even when things seemed darkest. They deserve respect and it should be remembered that WW2 was not one by one nation but by many. French, British, Canadian, American, Australian,Polish,Russian,Chin­ese and all others who fought not for political supremacy but for their homes.