you need the same amount of energy to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen, as the energy you gain from bounding the hydrogen with oxygen (burning it)
It absolutely DOES work. The true nature of the Stan Meyer process is greatly misunderstood. Practically everyone is pursuing a high efficiency electrolysis based method. While the Stan's concept appears to be electrolysis, it actually has absolutely nothing to do with electrolysis, and everything to do with an ultra-high magnetic field. One of Stan's patents references a previous patient for efficient pulse based electrolysis to clarify the difference between it and his capacitor concept.
I have built several. The current apparatus utilizes an approximate 20,000 volt charged cell. I am building another unit that will use voltage in the 60,000 volt range. High voltage creates an ultra-high electromagnetic field. Once the plates are energized, very little voltage is required to maintain the field. This is what Stan was doing, not even close to electrolysis. Water passing between the plates is literally ripped apart under the influence of the intense magnetic field.
When I am satisfied that my Stan Meyer reproduction is immune to the vicious attacks of the skeptics, you will get a video. Just remember two words for now, ELECTROMAGNETIC DISASSOCIATION. That is the true process that takes place in a Stan Meyer Water Capacitor. High efficiency electrolysis was already patented at the time Stan Meyer was granted his international patents. He could never get that patent for electrolysis again.
After 4 mistrials on customized 4 cyl. dieselengines, I changed over to a 6 cyl. model where I build in one extra stage to flush with hot rapid-oil (about one litre per 16 hrs.) It's using nothing but water and to get it off also some electricity to start up/stabilize the engine by means of an electric engine. (2-3 Minutes) My truck did 13.500 kms on it so far. It can never be long before the world finds out that this is the solution to the worldwide energyproblem.
That is also my thought. Water is turned to hydrogen by electrolysis in the cylinder. Hmm.. that is not working. To use the pressure created from the piston itself is also not working. This engine is not working in my thoughts.
Brilliant! Does this idea bear any similarity to the patents obtained by Stan Meyer? He developed some kind of system for injecting water directly into an engine with a special device that took the place of a standard spark plug.
the water splitting method is used, but originally, Stan's methods of rapid electrolysis was with pulse-width modulation. This looks like it could simply use a regular old diesel system. It's Stan's work, just simplified.
No, this is incorrect. Stan did NOT utilize electrolysis in any form. This is the major misunderstanding 99.9999999% of the time. Stan clearly calls his device a capacitor. The true process should be known as Electromagnetic Disassociation. Electrons are added to one plate while being removed from the other. This imbalance, or potential, creates a powerful electromagnetic field that rips the water apart. I have had success with this process and continue to perfect it.
If I had a video, what would that show, that I have a camera? How would that prove anything? I shouldn't have to post a video. Stan Meyer was granted international patents. In one patent, he sites a previous patent already granted for high-efficiency, pulsed electrolysis so as to separate his idea from it. He tells us exactly how he did it. It is the stupidity of most people to pursue electrolysis, but the Stan Meyer idea does NOT utilize electrolysis. Read the patents again and again.
if you had a video of your device, it would prove that you're not full of shit. I have his patents. He used pulse-width modulation to control the amount of current he put into his water fuel cell while maintaining the resonant frequency of the water in order to create electrolytic disassociation. (which is what he called the "water slitting" method) I would be surprised if you actually managed to do that. And if you actually managed to, you would have taken a video and posted it on youtube.
What I have is a prototype that charges anode and cathode plates with 20,000 volts of DC voltage while inhibiting current flow through the water, and produces successful disassociation of osmosis purified water, however, this does not produce enough volume to fuel an internal combustion engine. The prototype I am currently working on will charge to 60,000 volts. When that is complete, I will give you a video.
One can build and store a potential of 60KV inexpensively. In an electrolysis model, the reactant vessel performs like a resistor, however, when the electrodes are insulated and/or the water is 99.9999% pure, the vessel performs like a capacitor. You can't tell the difference between electrolysis and capacitance models visually. I can build a 60KV potential and consume very little energy to maintain it in the capacitance model.
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quandoosolsolnasce 1 year ago
utter nonsence!
it's a fact that you can't use water as a fuel
you need the same amount of energy to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen, as the energy you gain from bounding the hydrogen with oxygen (burning it)
maxotromeros 2 years ago
and you're so smart because you know how to spell nonsense.
ferraridriver16 2 years ago
i might not, but still that lets you look stupid as you really seem to believe that this concept could ever work in reality.
maxotromeros 2 years ago
It absolutely DOES work. The true nature of the Stan Meyer process is greatly misunderstood. Practically everyone is pursuing a high efficiency electrolysis based method. While the Stan's concept appears to be electrolysis, it actually has absolutely nothing to do with electrolysis, and everything to do with an ultra-high magnetic field. One of Stan's patents references a previous patient for efficient pulse based electrolysis to clarify the difference between it and his capacitor concept.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
@tonsostuff
why don't you build one then?
maxotromeros 2 years ago
I have built several. The current apparatus utilizes an approximate 20,000 volt charged cell. I am building another unit that will use voltage in the 60,000 volt range. High voltage creates an ultra-high electromagnetic field. Once the plates are energized, very little voltage is required to maintain the field. This is what Stan was doing, not even close to electrolysis. Water passing between the plates is literally ripped apart under the influence of the intense magnetic field.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
@tonsostuff
video?
maxotromeros 2 years ago
When I am satisfied that my Stan Meyer reproduction is immune to the vicious attacks of the skeptics, you will get a video. Just remember two words for now, ELECTROMAGNETIC DISASSOCIATION. That is the true process that takes place in a Stan Meyer Water Capacitor. High efficiency electrolysis was already patented at the time Stan Meyer was granted his international patents. He could never get that patent for electrolysis again.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
NOT WORKING. Final answer.
nleroux 2 years ago
After 4 mistrials on customized 4 cyl. dieselengines, I changed over to a 6 cyl. model where I build in one extra stage to flush with hot rapid-oil (about one litre per 16 hrs.) It's using nothing but water and to get it off also some electricity to start up/stabilize the engine by means of an electric engine. (2-3 Minutes) My truck did 13.500 kms on it so far. It can never be long before the world finds out that this is the solution to the worldwide energyproblem.
menafajo 2 years ago
is there already a real engine like this running or is it theory only?
Dilligent55 3 years ago
It's theory.
elziffo 3 years ago
The energy comes form electrolysis only !
domsau2 3 years ago
That is also my thought. Water is turned to hydrogen by electrolysis in the cylinder. Hmm.. that is not working. To use the pressure created from the piston itself is also not working. This engine is not working in my thoughts.
fredrik999z 2 years ago
Brilliant! Does this idea bear any similarity to the patents obtained by Stan Meyer? He developed some kind of system for injecting water directly into an engine with a special device that took the place of a standard spark plug.
tonsostuff 3 years ago
the water splitting method is used, but originally, Stan's methods of rapid electrolysis was with pulse-width modulation. This looks like it could simply use a regular old diesel system. It's Stan's work, just simplified.
ferraridriver16 2 years ago
No, this is incorrect. Stan did NOT utilize electrolysis in any form. This is the major misunderstanding 99.9999999% of the time. Stan clearly calls his device a capacitor. The true process should be known as Electromagnetic Disassociation. Electrons are added to one plate while being removed from the other. This imbalance, or potential, creates a powerful electromagnetic field that rips the water apart. I have had success with this process and continue to perfect it.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
then why don't you have any videos on your channel about it? I can fairly say, I don't believe you.
ferraridriver16 2 years ago
If I had a video, what would that show, that I have a camera? How would that prove anything? I shouldn't have to post a video. Stan Meyer was granted international patents. In one patent, he sites a previous patent already granted for high-efficiency, pulsed electrolysis so as to separate his idea from it. He tells us exactly how he did it. It is the stupidity of most people to pursue electrolysis, but the Stan Meyer idea does NOT utilize electrolysis. Read the patents again and again.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
if you had a video of your device, it would prove that you're not full of shit. I have his patents. He used pulse-width modulation to control the amount of current he put into his water fuel cell while maintaining the resonant frequency of the water in order to create electrolytic disassociation. (which is what he called the "water slitting" method) I would be surprised if you actually managed to do that. And if you actually managed to, you would have taken a video and posted it on youtube.
ferraridriver16 2 years ago
What I have is a prototype that charges anode and cathode plates with 20,000 volts of DC voltage while inhibiting current flow through the water, and produces successful disassociation of osmosis purified water, however, this does not produce enough volume to fuel an internal combustion engine. The prototype I am currently working on will charge to 60,000 volts. When that is complete, I will give you a video.
tonsostuff 2 years ago
yea, right. I believe you. Enjoy paying for your electricity bill
ferraridriver16 2 years ago
One can build and store a potential of 60KV inexpensively. In an electrolysis model, the reactant vessel performs like a resistor, however, when the electrodes are insulated and/or the water is 99.9999% pure, the vessel performs like a capacitor. You can't tell the difference between electrolysis and capacitance models visually. I can build a 60KV potential and consume very little energy to maintain it in the capacitance model.
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