Pshh, that's not what's gunna happen if Mordor takes over...that's what's gunna eventually happen if PIPA and SOPA succeed! Yeah, that's right! I brought it to youtube!!!!
"By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you STAND!"
Duh, Galadriel the Adventurer from the Silmarillion seems more cool to me, than Galadriel the Queen from LotR. And yeah, TRADITIONAL ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE is TRADITIONAL and ROYAL, lol.
I may be brony, but Tolkien and Galadriel will always come first bitches!
Ponification chart: Galadriel = Celestia / Luna; ergo, the only pony capable of wielding the true power of the ring. Besides, ponies only have hooves; but then again it's possible to wield the ring without wearing it, as Frodo demonstrated.
(ok, that was the nerdiest thing I've ever written)
Also, if this crossover is popular, which pony = Sauron?
@AcolyteOfAzura Discord is far too silly to be Sauron. Far too silly to be in LOTR at all, in fact. He might fit in The Hobbit somewhere, but not as Sauron.
@thatpenguingirl But, if it were to be a crossover, I don't think very many of the characters in MLP are serious enough. Everyone would have to take it down a notch. About 60% of crossovers don't exactly fit the original tone of the story. If I were writing a MLP-LoTR fanfic, I would make it a little humorous. And, if that were the case, MY Sauron would be Discord.
@ijwi You're a typical Brony from where I stand. A nerd of another subject first, Mlp:FiM fan second which is a good thing especially with all the antis accusing Bronies and Pegasisters of obsessing over FiM. Though I wish I hadn't come back to this vid and read this comment because in novel I'm writing inspired by FiM I've written in elements similar to Harry Potter, now I'm compelled to utilize some influences from LoTR. God help me. :(
@gamemaker60 We nerds remember? We were into LoTR, Comic-books, anime/manga, Star-Trek, Star Wars, Transformers, before Lauren Faust made MLP awesome. So of course crossover ideas will be mentioned... *Thinks back to how my story "Mystic Riders" carries elements similar to Darksiders, Harry Potter, and FiM* Engh, now if you'll me, I have novels to write... And Btw... *brohoof*
@jbecker8082 Not exactly, Sauron was first a servant to the Valar, created before the elves. Galadriel is still just an elf, therefore lesser than Sauron. Gandalf (known then as Mithrandir), on the other hand, was also a Maiar, servant to the Valar, so he is equal to Sauron. None is greater than Sauron that existed in the third age.
@drawfd The desire of power. Even elves face it. She is extremely old and has seen the rise and fall of powers, but has remained as a quiet guiding light. That temptation was there for her to take the ring and become a world ruler, and right the world as she saw fit. The test for her was not to give in to that desire.
@iverie oooh ok, thats so crazy how strong the temptation is. thanks for clearing it up for me! what an epic movie I love it soooo much watching it recently. temptation is so powerfull
@Valor773 the elves, wizards who have lived for thousands of years are more powerful and wise. The One Ring would have a very strong hold over them worse if they touched it. This is why Elrond could not struggle with Isildur, who was afraid it would just corrupt him. Men though are very easly corrupted. Hobbits are, but not very badly.
i remember the first time i saw this she scared me the shit out of me haha lol this is a wicked scene i love it...Galadriel would be a fricking evil queen lol
I see there is a discussion why Elrond didn't stop Isildur from taking the ring. In the book he wasn't actually there when Isildur took the ring, he was by Gil-galad's side who was fatally wounded. By the way I think elves believe in faith and destiny and all that so Elrond probably didn't even feel that was his responsibility to take the ring by force!
@Shumskyfly ok thanks. I started the discussion because I didn't remember if elrond was at isildur's side in that moment in the book. I just didn't remember and in the movie it seems so stupid :)
Since of the first age Galadriel want to be powerfull. So, she finally proved to the Valars: If she wants she would be powerful. And finally she is ready to back to west, in the Valar house with her father Finarfin, King of The Noldor.
by the way, I still think that is not her dark side but her real look. and the armour she is wearing must be one of the more powerful armours in the whole tolkien's mythology
@thegreeenbeast I don't know... baybe you're right, but I don't think the real look af such an ancient and powerful elf is just a thin pale blonde girl.....
@thegreeenbeast you're right. if tolkien had explained everything, we would be contemplating his art and stop. but is so beautiful to keep on imaginating the things he didn't explain.
there is only one thing I really don't understand. I read the lotr the last time about an year ago, so I don't rememberit perfectly.... when Isildur defeated Sauron and took the ring, and than refused to destroy it... WHY ELROND ALLOWED HIM TO DO SO? I would have thrown in the flames of Mount Doom Isildur as well
@linguadigatt0 I think the real reason is that the elves and humans had formed an alliance that day. If Elrond would've killed isildur the humans would jave attacked the elves for their betrayal and the war would've continued.
@linguadigatt0 I think that this is puzzling to you only because of THAT scene from the movie, and not because of anything in The Book.
Jackson was always very concerned to make clear to his audience the danger and evil of The Ring, so much so that he seems to repeatedly hit us over the head with it! That in turn makes Elrond allowing Isildur to walk away with the Ring seem strange to you.
The idea that anything that was done with the Ring would turn to evil was perceived only by The Wise.
@linguadigatt0; Elrond probably fears being seduced by the Ring just as Gandalf and Galadriel. Why don't you blame Gandalf and Galadriel for the same, not having destroyed the ring sooner?
@PadraikKasier well, I don't blame anyone. it just seems strange to me that thusands of elves and men fight and die for a purpose, and when that purpose is near they just let it go because Isildur on a whim decides to keep the one ring......... I would have organised a dimonstration
I know the ring is powerful and has the power to turn one's mind to his will, but those who were at isildur's side had the responsability to destroy it if isildur were already dominated by the ring
@linguadigatt0; It's an interesting point. Do you speak of Isildur's personal guard? I imagine they have loyalty to him and do not comprehend the Ring's power. If you speak of the average soldier in those armies, they probably comprehend the nature of the Ring even less. For all they knew, they were trying to defeat Sauron and as far as they could tell, Isildur killed him. They would have treated him as a hero. I doubt anyone would have demonstrated against him, much less take the Ring from him.
@PadraikKasier I was speaking of everybody knew that the ring was the key to defeat sauron....... but it's a stupid speech. tolkien needed to have the one ring still alive and kicking to write the lord of the rings, so the way he made it possible is not too important
I think it's more about showing the desires that the ring brings out in people. Even though it wouldn't fulfill those desires for only Sauron can use it.
an maia would become as powerfull as a valor (the actual demi gods) and a valor would become as strong as eru, the one and only real god in middleearth
Frodo's facial expression doesn't say "oh god this is terrifying", it says "WHY IS THIS GIVING ME A BONER"
gzu17 3 days ago
Cate Blanchett is amazing!
halifaxx55 3 days ago
Cate's voice just kill me!!! ><
elektra647 3 days ago
2:01 PMS kicked in
JudieKiley 4 days ago
You passed the test?
Bullshit, what the hell was all that despair stuff about?!
KarinMikazuki 4 days ago
Is this the extended version of the film? I don't remember this scene in the films.
Vertman3000 6 days ago
Is is wrong that hearing the audio and imagining how the scene would look makes it "look" way more epic than the actual visuals?
Rhoran 1 week ago
@2:34 "...on second thought, maybe I'll just hold onto it."
DrD0000M 1 week ago 2
Luna
AGuyAndAGun 1 week ago
alright, pervert comment incoming
if she desires the ring so badly, i would leave middleearth die, put the ring around ma balls, and make her try to suck it off every few hours :3
Shetyre 1 week ago
@Shetyre :O
halifaxx55 3 days ago
Pshh, that's not what's gunna happen if Mordor takes over...that's what's gunna eventually happen if PIPA and SOPA succeed! Yeah, that's right! I brought it to youtube!!!!
"By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you STAND!"
SuckMyCOG 2 weeks ago
Am I not the only one who thought this was hilarious? Every time I watch the movie and this part comes up I can't help but laugh.
"ALLL SHALLL LOOVE ME AND DESPAIRRRRR!"
libbylaughsable 2 weeks ago 2
Rarity approves.
blackgirlanimefan15 3 weeks ago
my first elder scrolls game is Skyrim.. first tought: OMG IT LOOKS LIKE LORD OF THE RINGS!!!
after playing I saw episode of MLP chistmas carol.. my tought now: OMG PONIES REMIND ME OF SKYRIM!!!
yeah.. Skyrim and ponies blew my mind
ztevany 3 weeks ago
@ztevany wut the hell......
TheGarcia350 3 weeks ago
Bitch is achin ' to get married!
chewreece 1 month ago 4
These ponies have taken over the youtube comments.
I for one welcome our new pony overlords.
dsagentutube 1 month ago 4
Thumps up if Lord of The Rings brought you here.
Quicksilver1111 1 month ago 5
@Quicksilver1111
WTF is Lord of the Rings?
EmeraldFool 4 weeks ago
I love how on every video, the top comments are pony comments
LordOrlock 1 month ago
PONIES PONIES PONIES SWAG
UnparalleledGenius 1 month ago 3
The three dislikes are from orcs.
KittyKatHill 1 month ago 3
luna did such a much more better job
Vtina456 1 month ago 2
Something tells me that the corruption of Galadriel would make for a much more epic and fascinating movie.
Glyphwright 1 month ago
3 people dont like ponies
TakedaJin 1 month ago
This video is now PONIES.
Zahaele 1 month ago 4
Bronies, we've finally done it. We've got pony vids linked to LOTR clips, mission accomplished.
rapto5050 1 month ago
Since however long this clip has been here, the two top comments have been from last month, both about ponies, both over two hundred thumbs ups.
FourthDimensionPyro 1 month ago
ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND THIS PEAR!
Blacaca180 1 month ago 12
@Blacaca180 literally rolled on the floor laughing
Glyphwright 1 month ago
1:55 for the part that everyone came here for.
whistleforthebigcash 1 month ago
I wouldn't mind being ruled by a hot queen like that.
Glyphwright 1 month ago 2
This video is now about ponies. Have fun with that.
Enidox 1 month ago
wtf is all the fucking pony stuff everywhere?
HollisKidDragonclaw 1 month ago
@HollisKidDragonclaw in the newest season, episode four, there's a pony named Princess Luna who TALKS JUST LIKE THAT.
there's a parody somewhere on youtube.
TheLastHylianTitan 1 month ago
@HollisKidDragonclaw yeah I'm seriously confused...is there a pony named galadriel or something..??
Zeelchetoe 1 month ago
@Zeelchetoe No, but there's one called Luna who speaks in a similar voice, hence the connection.
DarkDavie 1 month ago
@DarkDavie Ahh okay, huh. Thanks! Heh, I saw the video with the audio from this clip over one of a crazy angry lightning pony but thats it.
Zeelchetoe 1 month ago
That scene scared the crap out of me first time I watched it! Jeesh, relax, it's just a ring!
TheMoreTheMerrier21 1 month ago
@TheMoreTheMerrier21 Its been burned into my memory ever since I walked into the room at the wrong time xD she has a good voice though my goodness...
Zeelchetoe 1 month ago
@TheMoreTheMerrier21 which scared you more though? this one or when Bilbo freaks out when he sees the ring around Frodo's neck at Rivendell?
Defidius 1 month ago
roflmao
i was kinda used to the Bakshi film by the time ive got to see the Jackson ones,
then this scene came up and i was like THA FLYING FUCK??
aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa 1 month ago
mlp reference as top comments!?
HELL YEAH!
sbrevolver15 1 month ago 38
My work is the first related video. And it over has 50k views. HOLY TITS!
00vitality00 2 months ago
Top two comments MLP:FiM related? Internet takeover in progress.
MrSpaghettioes 2 months ago 11
@MrSpaghettioes I think we're a little past "in progress."
WillRennar 1 month ago
Oh the horror... the pure unadulterated 240p horror
wiseidiot5763 2 months ago 6
magnifique galadriel :)
Nath57022 2 months ago
Duh, Galadriel the Adventurer from the Silmarillion seems more cool to me, than Galadriel the Queen from LotR. And yeah, TRADITIONAL ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE is TRADITIONAL and ROYAL, lol.
DouViction 2 months ago
Noooooo, she's a goa'uld!!!
Skunkoon98241 2 months ago 4
I cant look at Cate Blanchett without thinking about her being fucked by a 15 year old faggot in Notes On A Scandal.
left4trance 2 months ago
When i first saw this , This scared the sh!t outta me.
souleaterfan1234 2 months ago 30
I wonder just how many people have watched this video thanks to 00vitality00's video.
jseeker1867 2 months ago
All should love me and despair!
that's my favorite part
carlos31389 2 months ago
I may be brony, but Tolkien and Galadriel will always come first bitches!
Ponification chart: Galadriel = Celestia / Luna; ergo, the only pony capable of wielding the true power of the ring. Besides, ponies only have hooves; but then again it's possible to wield the ring without wearing it, as Frodo demonstrated.
(ok, that was the nerdiest thing I've ever written)
Also, if this crossover is popular, which pony = Sauron?
ijwi 2 months ago
@ijwi Discord = Sauron?
AcolyteOfAzura 2 months ago
@AcolyteOfAzura Discord is far too silly to be Sauron. Far too silly to be in LOTR at all, in fact. He might fit in The Hobbit somewhere, but not as Sauron.
thatpenguingirl 2 months ago
@thatpenguingirl But, if it were to be a crossover, I don't think very many of the characters in MLP are serious enough. Everyone would have to take it down a notch. About 60% of crossovers don't exactly fit the original tone of the story. If I were writing a MLP-LoTR fanfic, I would make it a little humorous. And, if that were the case, MY Sauron would be Discord.
AcolyteOfAzura 2 months ago
@ijwi You're a typical Brony from where I stand. A nerd of another subject first, Mlp:FiM fan second which is a good thing especially with all the antis accusing Bronies and Pegasisters of obsessing over FiM. Though I wish I hadn't come back to this vid and read this comment because in novel I'm writing inspired by FiM I've written in elements similar to Harry Potter, now I'm compelled to utilize some influences from LoTR. God help me. :(
DemonicRemption 2 months ago
@ijwi Maybe in the pony universe, the One Ring is more of a One Bracelet? Or like, a saddle, or... yeah. Reaching here.
thatpenguingirl 2 months ago
Omg, both top comments are here because of Mlp:Fim lol
HazenKain 2 months ago 3
So Frodo, how do you feel about giving her the ring NOW?
TheJboy88 2 months ago 3
Luna is the best
linagarett 2 months ago
Galadriel ain't got shit on Princess Luna and Fluttershy.
EpicFunkey 2 months ago 4
2:00 for Royal Canterlot Voice.
fkagahsdfs 2 months ago 7
I am very pleased by these top comments.
fkagahsdfs 2 months ago 4
She needs to talk to fluttershy about that voice....
mikeyjb117 2 months ago
did you guys know cate blanchett is 2 years younger than miranda otto? what the heezy?
hitokirimasamun 2 months ago
@hitokirimasamun Good. I was afraid she was getting old and would hit the proverbial brick wall before the next movie is made. ;-/
ijwi 2 months ago
I got 99 problems, but a *awkward silence* ain't one!
pietiebrein 2 months ago
Princess Luna had more passion in her ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE!!
NCPilot 2 months ago
Sooner or later every YT video will be full of brony comments.
MikeCloud666 3 months ago 12
@MikeCloud666 Because we are nerds....
DemonicRemption 2 months ago
Nice to know I wasn't the only person getting a Galadriel vibe off Luna last week.
DragonNexus 3 months ago
"He will try to take the ring .... you know of whom I speak"
"..... Pippin?"
Kidzilla99 3 months ago 10
Wow, holy shit. The whole comments section is flooding with bronies. xD
Brohoof. guys <3
gamemaker60 3 months ago 13
@gamemaker60 No.
Kunami 3 months ago
@Kunami WHY WONT YOU RETURN MY LOVE
gamemaker60 3 months ago
@gamemaker60 We nerds remember? We were into LoTR, Comic-books, anime/manga, Star-Trek, Star Wars, Transformers, before Lauren Faust made MLP awesome. So of course crossover ideas will be mentioned... *Thinks back to how my story "Mystic Riders" carries elements similar to Darksiders, Harry Potter, and FiM* Engh, now if you'll me, I have novels to write... And Btw... *brohoof*
DemonicRemption 2 months ago
Even the smallest person can change the course of the world!
Have2havemusic96 3 months ago
In place of a dark mare you will have a PRINCESS. NOT A CREATURE OF DARKNESS, BUT INSTEAD A PONY WHO DESIRES YOUR LOVE AND ADMIRATION!
TheSeriouslyOatmeal 3 months ago 7
@TheSeriouslyOatmeal I watched that whole episode, waiting for Twilight to shout "YOU. SHALL NOT. PASS!!!"
weldonwin 3 months ago
MODS ARE ASLEEP, POST PONIES.
HiromiyamotoDesuDesu 3 months ago 11
RUN! SHE'S GOING TO GOBBLE YOU UP!!!
Lokuulio 3 months ago 6
This is now ponies.
emperorpenguinsrule 3 months ago 8
I love how more than half the comments are about MLP. XD Fuuuuuck, brohooves all around.
AnubusStar 3 months ago 8
THE FUN HAS DOUBLED!!!!!!!
JigsawCheesecake 3 months ago 15
That's a nice TRADITIONAL ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE.
TheSeriouslyOatmeal 3 months ago 428
@TheSeriouslyOatmeal Omg, that's why I went looking for this clip!
HiromiyamotoDesuDesu 3 months ago
@TheSeriouslyOatmeal YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!! Thou hast stolen the words i wanted to hath speaken.
Armedias 3 months ago
Thumbs up if Luna brought you here.
Stoneth 3 months ago 32
@Stoneth Yes, she did....>_>
DemonicRemption 2 months ago
yep, Luna brought me here too
smoothmagikarp775 3 months ago 12
Sounds like Galadriel is a Lunafag too
Videothan 3 months ago 9
Luna did it better.
Xzazazazia 3 months ago 244
@jbecker8082 Not exactly, Sauron was first a servant to the Valar, created before the elves. Galadriel is still just an elf, therefore lesser than Sauron. Gandalf (known then as Mithrandir), on the other hand, was also a Maiar, servant to the Valar, so he is equal to Sauron. None is greater than Sauron that existed in the third age.
MitchellTToth 3 months ago
Galadriel creeps the sh*t out of me.
LuxuryBarrage 4 months ago 3
@LuxuryBarrage yeah, me too...
whenever I watch that chills run down my spine
TheGrandLier 3 months ago
I wonder what the scenery tasted like.
TwinUzis 4 months ago
@TwinUzis Dwarves.
singletona082 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
PMS much?
AMLWong 4 months ago
PMS much?
AMLWong 4 months ago
Reminds me of Akivasha.
D~
Dunwyche 4 months ago
I LOVE HER! GALADRIEL RULES!!
Gabriiel94 4 months ago
I am confused.... why did she go crazy for? I mean was it the ring that did it to her?? please let me know thanks
drawfd 4 months ago
@drawfd The desire of power. Even elves face it. She is extremely old and has seen the rise and fall of powers, but has remained as a quiet guiding light. That temptation was there for her to take the ring and become a world ruler, and right the world as she saw fit. The test for her was not to give in to that desire.
iverie 4 months ago
@iverie oooh ok, thats so crazy how strong the temptation is. thanks for clearing it up for me! what an epic movie I love it soooo much watching it recently. temptation is so powerfull
drawfd 4 months ago
@drawfd Lol no problem.
iverie 4 months ago
Ponies sent me.
MrDinocks 5 months ago 3
When she does that stroke thing, who's face does that remind me of?
cjhrjone54 5 months ago
Bipolar bitch
cactusmilo918 5 months ago 5
Scariest moment in Lord of the Rings. Period.
SidRulz100 5 months ago 6
I love the whole Queen of the Dawn idea. more powerful and beautiful than the lord of the deep dark.
Adduneihu 5 months ago
Yep, the White Witch tried to invade Middle Earth, lol.
TeenGemini01 5 months ago 2
1:58 for the best of Tolkien's female speeches. Best Speech is found w/ Smaug.
ILfoxtrot 5 months ago
@ILfoxtrot Smaug is female?
sixpointneuf 5 months ago
Galadriel has always scared the **** outta me ever since I first watched this scene 0.0
awakenedlink37 5 months ago
it's so sad she diminishes, but I know she's happy cause after all the thousands of years, finally she's going home <3
sillmarien 5 months ago 2
She spazzed out because she knew the ring would eventually corrupt anyone who had it (& probably still find its
vtantonelli 5 months ago
I think Galadriel's temptation is overdone, but I suppose they had to dramatize it.
vtantonelli 5 months ago
Is it wrong if this turns me on?
14022222 5 months ago 3
What does it say about me that I would have been like, "Okay, sounds good, here's the ring!" and found this really hot? Lmao.
Oh, lord I have issues. o_o
Vamphaery 6 months ago
"I will diminish and go into the West!"
Forest355 6 months ago
With a little make up a good outfit she would have been a great Maleficient
Ixyon77 6 months ago
i also think she is beautiful in radioactive mode
giov150 6 months ago 8
1:36 to begin Galadriel's best scene.
ILfoxtrot 6 months ago
@Valor773 the elves, wizards who have lived for thousands of years are more powerful and wise. The One Ring would have a very strong hold over them worse if they touched it. This is why Elrond could not struggle with Isildur, who was afraid it would just corrupt him. Men though are very easly corrupted. Hobbits are, but not very badly.
bsimester2010 6 months ago
"I will diminish, go into the West, and remain Galadriel."
"...You will what, sorry?"
"I will dim... nevermind, it's in the book"
Jennifer Sauder's version
leofracassi 6 months ago
@leofracassi she says i wil diminish.. i don´t understand it´s in the book.
LisaLol14 6 months ago
Someone explain this test and why she spazzed the hell out if anyone would be so kind.
Valor773 6 months ago
i remember the first time i saw this she scared me the shit out of me haha lol this is a wicked scene i love it...Galadriel would be a fricking evil queen lol
Verris54321 6 months ago
anybody else come here after watching PONIES The anthology?
rupertroberto 6 months ago 5
@rupertroberto How could you not?
Atlink 6 months ago
i would follow her...the lad y of the ring....
lonelyqueen86 7 months ago
Good scene ruined by radioactive Galadriel. So stupid.
triAceFanboy 7 months ago
@triAceFanboy ahah maybe she's been in fukushima to try to destroy the ring in the melting core
linguadigatt0 7 months ago
@triAceFanboy i think its great because its demontrating the power she has!!!
giov150 6 months ago
If she had taken it, she would have been more powerfull then Sauron!!!
amarieoflothlorien 7 months ago 31
I see there is a discussion why Elrond didn't stop Isildur from taking the ring. In the book he wasn't actually there when Isildur took the ring, he was by Gil-galad's side who was fatally wounded. By the way I think elves believe in faith and destiny and all that so Elrond probably didn't even feel that was his responsibility to take the ring by force!
Shumskyfly 7 months ago
@Shumskyfly ok thanks. I started the discussion because I didn't remember if elrond was at isildur's side in that moment in the book. I just didn't remember and in the movie it seems so stupid :)
linguadigatt0 7 months ago
"All shall love me and Despair" Genius!
Batmanwaffledog 8 months ago 8
Since of the first age Galadriel want to be powerfull. So, she finally proved to the Valars: If she wants she would be powerful. And finally she is ready to back to west, in the Valar house with her father Finarfin, King of The Noldor.
robsonreis12 8 months ago
2:34
what kind of BIG LIPPED ALLIGATOR MOMENT was that?
Pikazilla 8 months ago
"I, too, can command the wind, sir! I have a hurricane in me that will strip Spain bare if you dare to try me!!!"
yokokanno25 8 months ago 3
EPIC!
Drevorub 8 months ago in playlist lotr
The only thing better than this: "Bring back what you have stolen from me. Bring back the map."
bluesword1969 9 months ago
Wow the scene where he looks in the mirror is sure creepy..
Man Orcs have got to be the coolest villains ever... when I first saw them in this movie I was amazed and somewhat horrified.
Kayruul 9 months ago
Shit.. rage.
MinaDenBesta 10 months ago
by the way, I still think that is not her dark side but her real look. and the armour she is wearing must be one of the more powerful armours in the whole tolkien's mythology
linguadigatt0 11 months ago
@linguadigatt0
no its what the ring would make her if she whore it
thegreeenbeast 8 months ago
@thegreeenbeast I don't know... baybe you're right, but I don't think the real look af such an ancient and powerful elf is just a thin pale blonde girl.....
linguadigatt0 8 months ago
@linguadigatt0
cant blame you for thinking that... could be both... tolkien doesnt make any plot holes but he does leave some things to our imagination.
the wings of the balrog for example... its still not clear wether they have wings or if its just their control of shadows
thegreeenbeast 8 months ago
@thegreeenbeast you're right. if tolkien had explained everything, we would be contemplating his art and stop. but is so beautiful to keep on imaginating the things he didn't explain.
there is only one thing I really don't understand. I read the lotr the last time about an year ago, so I don't rememberit perfectly.... when Isildur defeated Sauron and took the ring, and than refused to destroy it... WHY ELROND ALLOWED HIM TO DO SO? I would have thrown in the flames of Mount Doom Isildur as well
linguadigatt0 8 months ago
@linguadigatt0
well sir i think you just found one of the VERY few plot holes ;)
thegreeenbeast 8 months ago
@thegreeenbeast maybe Elrond, in his wisdom, knew that destroying the ring we would never enjoy a great book :)
thank you, isildur and elrond, for not destroying the ring! ahahah maybe frodo doesn't agree with me
linguadigatt0 8 months ago 3
@linguadigatt0 I think the real reason is that the elves and humans had formed an alliance that day. If Elrond would've killed isildur the humans would jave attacked the elves for their betrayal and the war would've continued.
kristofize 8 months ago
@linguadigatt0 I think that this is puzzling to you only because of THAT scene from the movie, and not because of anything in The Book.
Jackson was always very concerned to make clear to his audience the danger and evil of The Ring, so much so that he seems to repeatedly hit us over the head with it! That in turn makes Elrond allowing Isildur to walk away with the Ring seem strange to you.
The idea that anything that was done with the Ring would turn to evil was perceived only by The Wise.
eventcone 8 months ago
@linguadigatt0; Elrond probably fears being seduced by the Ring just as Gandalf and Galadriel. Why don't you blame Gandalf and Galadriel for the same, not having destroyed the ring sooner?
PadraikKasier 7 months ago
@PadraikKasier well, I don't blame anyone. it just seems strange to me that thusands of elves and men fight and die for a purpose, and when that purpose is near they just let it go because Isildur on a whim decides to keep the one ring......... I would have organised a dimonstration
I know the ring is powerful and has the power to turn one's mind to his will, but those who were at isildur's side had the responsability to destroy it if isildur were already dominated by the ring
linguadigatt0 7 months ago
@linguadigatt0; It's an interesting point. Do you speak of Isildur's personal guard? I imagine they have loyalty to him and do not comprehend the Ring's power. If you speak of the average soldier in those armies, they probably comprehend the nature of the Ring even less. For all they knew, they were trying to defeat Sauron and as far as they could tell, Isildur killed him. They would have treated him as a hero. I doubt anyone would have demonstrated against him, much less take the Ring from him.
PadraikKasier 7 months ago
@PadraikKasier I was speaking of everybody knew that the ring was the key to defeat sauron....... but it's a stupid speech. tolkien needed to have the one ring still alive and kicking to write the lord of the rings, so the way he made it possible is not too important
linguadigatt0 7 months ago
ok in the book this is a great scene but here it's something like
"you have to do this and that and you can die but if you fail it will be a pain in the ass"
"o no, please, do it yourself, here is the ring, you're welcome"
"I WIL BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABKLABLAB. oh I passed the test. no help from me frodo, sorry"
"what?? I can't do this alone!"
"not my problem baby, I'm going west. bye!"
linguadigatt0 11 months ago 30
@linguadigatt0 lol I do think that her little speech is better in the movie though even though half of it is the exact same
zelda2ownage156 11 months ago
@linguadigatt0 LMAO!!!! well said hahaha
dorrinaexe1 6 months ago
@linguadigatt0 Every scene in every story ever can be generalised thusly. You're not witty, you just have 20 retards with nothing else to thumbs up.
Essefen 6 months ago
@linguadigatt0 well anything will sound rubbish if you just simplify it like that.actually, I love this scene. don't screw with it.
BarrelDragon64 5 months ago
@linguadigatt0 You're own pathetic life could be generalised in even less words than that.
Essefen 4 months ago
reflection...
NaturesInstinct 11 months ago
i can watch these scene whole day! she is amazing,i love her calm,voice,and look,and her dark side is interest......LOTR RULES!!!! :)
skomimaster 11 months ago
how was that a test?
Li5468 11 months ago
@Li5468
Because she had the ability to take the ring right then, but did not. She withstood the temptation.
TheWistfulWanderer 10 months ago
I think it's more about showing the desires that the ring brings out in people. Even though it wouldn't fulfill those desires for only Sauron can use it.
zelda2ownage156 11 months ago
@zelda2ownage156
not truth its stated in the books (not just lord of the rings)
that all powerfull elves, maia (gandalf, saruman, sauron, morgoth they are all the same race)
and edu (kinda demi gods) can use it.
if maya use it they become as powerfull ass an edu (sauron for example) and if an edu would ever use it they would become as powerfull as a true god
thegreeenbeast 8 months ago
@thegreeenbeast Hm don't remember that. Research time!!!
zelda2ownage156 8 months ago
@zelda2ownage156
i made a mistake
an maia would become as powerfull as a valor (the actual demi gods) and a valor would become as strong as eru, the one and only real god in middleearth
thegreeenbeast 8 months ago
@thegreeenbeast Confirmed. Thank you for this information you little genius you.
zelda2ownage156 8 months ago
shes seeing what would happen if she became evil.
youtheee 1 year ago