you're also ignoring the fact that the final results of the election, both nationally and on a state by state basis, are entirely consistent with pre-election polling and exit polls which (unless you think Zogby, Fox, Gallup etc. are all conspiring with Acorn - unlikely) all measure the opinions of REAL living Americans, not made up registrations...
I totally understand your concern, and I think the issue needs to be fully investigated, but all I'm saying is that I think its a bit of a stretch to say that 8 million faulty votes slipped through the cracks - by that calculation, Acorn would have had to create several 10s of millions more just to make sure some did in fact slip through the cracks...any way you look at it, the numbers just don't logically add up.
look, I understand your concern, but Obama won the popular vote by about 8 million votes - so, by your logic, they created over 8 million fake voters in order to beat McCain...even accounting for some people 'slipping through the cracks', this number is simply too huge to be attributed solely to Acorn...consider that the big uproar about acorn in Virginia was about 78000 votes (most of which did not slip through the cracks), which is a miniscule number compared to 8 million
...Obama won because more people voted for him. Of course if anyone knows about stealing elections, it'd be the republicans. READ YOUR HISTORY. Republican's have been in the game of voter suppression and disinfranchisement for years now. And if you are so determained to think we stole this election, look at it this way. Now you know how we felt in 2000!
...And those forms were flagged BY ACORN, not by the government. They never even got past the Acorn officials. Some people were just trying to get paid more, so they turned in fake sheets. As far as this guy goes, he was making a joke (like he wished he could vote a couple times). I'm completely sick and tired of this "taking things out a context", "twisting things around" approach republican's keep taking on EVERYTHING. Nobody voted twice. Get over it....
Acorn was guilty of faulty voter REGISTRATION, which is an entirely different issue than voter FRAUD...Acorn workers created false voters in order to get paid more, but the false voters (e.g. "Mickey Mouse") would not be legitimate to vote unless there were real people with real identification to validate the registration- thus, aside from creating administrative headaches, the faulty registration DID NOT have an impact on the election - this video is troubling, but it is not the same issue.
I'm sure there were plenty of people who slipped through the cracks. ACORN has used similar tactics to create headaches for banks by backing up lines so tellers couldn't help legitimate customers. Likewise, fraudulent voter registrations created headaches and distractions for the voter registar officials. They were so swamped checking who is real and who is not real, that I'm sure many of the illegitimate registrations were not caught. Enough of them to help Osama steal the election.
Check your history. McCain has had just as much to do with Acorn. He has donated to them, spoke at their meetings, etc. And like sgt said, unless someone had a driver's license with the name "Mickey Mouse" on it with a valid social for Mickey Mouse, they couldn't use those forms. The government makes sure that every person attempting to register to vote has a valid social security number, etc. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get one otherwise....
You are clearly biased, and even if you're argument had merit you have completely abolished any sense of integrity by your immature "Osama" remark. Grow up, will you please. Obama did not steal the election. The American people were fed up with the Republican agenda and decided to choose a candidate that respected their rights and had the best interests of this country in mind. I am sorry if you are now part of the minority. Now you know how it feels.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Luckily for you, the democrats try to make this country better for everybody (as opposed to the republicans who only work and care for for the rich white 'christians') , so you'll soon see how much better things are for YOU, as well as the rest of the population and will feel silly for your hate mongering comments.
Oh and yes, I am a well off WHITE person in case you were going to spew out some nonsense about me being racist, classist, or whatever (as most desperate people tend to do)
Oh, how are they going to make it "better"? By raising taxes? By squelching freedom of speech on the radio (Fairness Doctrine) and getting talk shows canned? By bankrupting the coal industry? By taking away people's guns (2nd Ammendment, right to bear arms).
By giving lotsa free goodies to everyone and anyone who wants them? By "Spreading the wealth around"! I'm getting in line for my cut of the wealth! Everyone else is! I just love handouts. Socialism, communism, marxism...yep - that's the kind of change this country needs! Don't even get me started. You'll just have to wait and see for yourself.
Obama's promised executive orders alone will shut down oil andgas exploration, push radical global warming policies and forcetaxpayer funded abortions. And now Obama is promising more massive bailouts that will further expand government power. That's what you meant by the Democrats making everything better? Ah, yes! That's the kind of change I can believe in and look forward to!
"I think that's against the law, but that's okay". I can't stand the mainstream media. They've got Obama so far up their asses its not even funny.
slvrserfr 2 years ago
They're still drinking the Kool-Aid.
FireThunderTV 2 years ago
what a N-BOMB
solkacorot 3 years ago
what a N-BOMB.
solkacorot 3 years ago
you're also ignoring the fact that the final results of the election, both nationally and on a state by state basis, are entirely consistent with pre-election polling and exit polls which (unless you think Zogby, Fox, Gallup etc. are all conspiring with Acorn - unlikely) all measure the opinions of REAL living Americans, not made up registrations...
sgtspadina 3 years ago
I totally understand your concern, and I think the issue needs to be fully investigated, but all I'm saying is that I think its a bit of a stretch to say that 8 million faulty votes slipped through the cracks - by that calculation, Acorn would have had to create several 10s of millions more just to make sure some did in fact slip through the cracks...any way you look at it, the numbers just don't logically add up.
sgtspadina 3 years ago
look, I understand your concern, but Obama won the popular vote by about 8 million votes - so, by your logic, they created over 8 million fake voters in order to beat McCain...even accounting for some people 'slipping through the cracks', this number is simply too huge to be attributed solely to Acorn...consider that the big uproar about acorn in Virginia was about 78000 votes (most of which did not slip through the cracks), which is a miniscule number compared to 8 million
sgtspadina 3 years ago
...Obama won because more people voted for him. Of course if anyone knows about stealing elections, it'd be the republicans. READ YOUR HISTORY. Republican's have been in the game of voter suppression and disinfranchisement for years now. And if you are so determained to think we stole this election, look at it this way. Now you know how we felt in 2000!
Hubersey 3 years ago
...And those forms were flagged BY ACORN, not by the government. They never even got past the Acorn officials. Some people were just trying to get paid more, so they turned in fake sheets. As far as this guy goes, he was making a joke (like he wished he could vote a couple times). I'm completely sick and tired of this "taking things out a context", "twisting things around" approach republican's keep taking on EVERYTHING. Nobody voted twice. Get over it....
Hubersey 3 years ago
Acorn was guilty of faulty voter REGISTRATION, which is an entirely different issue than voter FRAUD...Acorn workers created false voters in order to get paid more, but the false voters (e.g. "Mickey Mouse") would not be legitimate to vote unless there were real people with real identification to validate the registration- thus, aside from creating administrative headaches, the faulty registration DID NOT have an impact on the election - this video is troubling, but it is not the same issue.
sgtspadina 3 years ago
I'm sure there were plenty of people who slipped through the cracks. ACORN has used similar tactics to create headaches for banks by backing up lines so tellers couldn't help legitimate customers. Likewise, fraudulent voter registrations created headaches and distractions for the voter registar officials. They were so swamped checking who is real and who is not real, that I'm sure many of the illegitimate registrations were not caught. Enough of them to help Osama steal the election.
FireThunderTV 3 years ago
Check your history. McCain has had just as much to do with Acorn. He has donated to them, spoke at their meetings, etc. And like sgt said, unless someone had a driver's license with the name "Mickey Mouse" on it with a valid social for Mickey Mouse, they couldn't use those forms. The government makes sure that every person attempting to register to vote has a valid social security number, etc. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get one otherwise....
Hubersey 3 years ago
The issue (and this video) is that people voted more than once, which I'm sure accounted for the huge "landslide".
FireThunderTV 3 years ago
You are clearly biased, and even if you're argument had merit you have completely abolished any sense of integrity by your immature "Osama" remark. Grow up, will you please. Obama did not steal the election. The American people were fed up with the Republican agenda and decided to choose a candidate that respected their rights and had the best interests of this country in mind. I am sorry if you are now part of the minority. Now you know how it feels.
Hubersey 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Luckily for you, the democrats try to make this country better for everybody (as opposed to the republicans who only work and care for for the rich white 'christians') , so you'll soon see how much better things are for YOU, as well as the rest of the population and will feel silly for your hate mongering comments.
Oh and yes, I am a well off WHITE person in case you were going to spew out some nonsense about me being racist, classist, or whatever (as most desperate people tend to do)
Hubersey 3 years ago
Oh, how are they going to make it "better"? By raising taxes? By squelching freedom of speech on the radio (Fairness Doctrine) and getting talk shows canned? By bankrupting the coal industry? By taking away people's guns (2nd Ammendment, right to bear arms).
cont...
FireThunderTV 3 years ago
...cont.
By giving lotsa free goodies to everyone and anyone who wants them? By "Spreading the wealth around"! I'm getting in line for my cut of the wealth! Everyone else is! I just love handouts. Socialism, communism, marxism...yep - that's the kind of change this country needs! Don't even get me started. You'll just have to wait and see for yourself.
FireThunderTV 3 years ago
Obama's promised executive orders alone will shut down oil andgas exploration, push radical global warming policies and forcetaxpayer funded abortions. And now Obama is promising more massive bailouts that will further expand government power. That's what you meant by the Democrats making everything better? Ah, yes! That's the kind of change I can believe in and look forward to!
FireThunderTV 3 years ago