In the trade these are often called a holeless hydro, because there's nothing that extends below the pit structure. In San Diego there's a sternwheeler at the Bahia Resort that has a holeless hydro in it. With a conventional hydro the piston would have to extend through the hull below the elevator.
Nice elevator. Btw, the Renzo Piano addition was built in 2002. One of our Wentworth graduates actually worked with Renzo Piano on this project. The original structure was by Richard Meier. Both are absolutely stunning examples of post-modernist architecture.They couldn't have picked a better architect to match Meier's masterpiece.
Hydraulic elevators use hydraulic fluids, a motor/pump, pistons and jacks. In a classic in-ground, the motor pumps the fluid out of a resevior and into the cylindar raising the car. Hole-less elevators do this aswell, except the piston is above ground. Roped hydraulics work by having a piston and jack above ground move a pulley upwards, therefore lifting/lowering the elevator. It does this in a 2/1 ration, so for every foot the piston moves, the car moves 2.
Hydraulic elevators use 1 of 4 methods: Holed hydraulic, roped holeless hydraulic, holeless hydraulic and telescoping holeless hydraulic. In a hydraulic elevator, it pumps hydraulic oil into the hydraulic jacks and makes it go up. On the down trip, the hydraulic oil is released back into the pump to make it go down. Holed hydraulic are very pollutive because the oil can leak into the environment. That big pole on the bottom of the car is the hydraulic ram.
A traction elevator on the other hand does not used hydraulics. There are 3 methods for this: gearless traction, geared traction and MRL gearless traction. MRL stands for Machine-Room-Less. Instead, a small closet for the controller is placed at the top landing. A traction elevator uses cables and a counterweight that is equivalent to 40% of the elevator's capacity. It doesn't use hydraulics. A geared traction uses a gearbox and has speeds for up to 500 feet per minute and rises up to 27 floors.
A gearless traction does not use a gearbox that weighs the elevator down and has speeds above 500 FPM and up to 1600 and beyond. An MRL elevator is always gearless and runs at speeds of up to 500 FPM. They are beginning to become cheaper than hydraulics and will eventually replace them. So you might be wondering: If gearboxes weigh elevators down, why do they used them? My answer: It's weird, but I have NO clue. So there you have it ahocknul04.
@ahocknul04 Hydraulic is a type of elevator that has something below it, which means it pushes it up, and pulls down. Traction is a type of elevator that runs on cables.
Musicfreakcc, sorry for giving you a little extra work, but I wanted to respond with a video, but I linked it to the wrong one. It's starts with, "? Elevator...". Disprove the first link, and accept the second.
I didn't know Kone made roped hydraulic elevators, but it's sad to see even the above ground holeless & roped elevators be discontinued. However, I like traction elevators more, since they're energy efficient, use no oil, travel faster, and are more reliable.
In the trade these are often called a holeless hydro, because there's nothing that extends below the pit structure. In San Diego there's a sternwheeler at the Bahia Resort that has a holeless hydro in it. With a conventional hydro the piston would have to extend through the hull below the elevator.
stealthstahl 8 months ago
Nice elevator. Btw, the Renzo Piano addition was built in 2002. One of our Wentworth graduates actually worked with Renzo Piano on this project. The original structure was by Richard Meier. Both are absolutely stunning examples of post-modernist architecture.They couldn't have picked a better architect to match Meier's masterpiece.
ElevatingBoston 2 years ago
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elhamimannesh 2 years ago
???
musicfreakcc 2 years ago
not sure!
misterelevatorcc 2 years ago
Not a bed retake.
Baytrail 3 years ago 2
boring you geek
grooveridersass 3 years ago
Well, I guess our interests differ. If you find my videos boring, don't watch them.
musicfreakcc 3 years ago
Hydraulic elevators use hydraulic fluids, a motor/pump, pistons and jacks. In a classic in-ground, the motor pumps the fluid out of a resevior and into the cylindar raising the car. Hole-less elevators do this aswell, except the piston is above ground. Roped hydraulics work by having a piston and jack above ground move a pulley upwards, therefore lifting/lowering the elevator. It does this in a 2/1 ration, so for every foot the piston moves, the car moves 2.
suzzex 2 years ago
musicfreakcc is right. do some research on google and you will see what we are talking about.
suzzex 2 years ago
Sorry but what is the differents between tracion and hydronic
ahocknul04 3 years ago
Google it.
musicfreakcc 3 years ago
Hydraulic elevators use 1 of 4 methods: Holed hydraulic, roped holeless hydraulic, holeless hydraulic and telescoping holeless hydraulic. In a hydraulic elevator, it pumps hydraulic oil into the hydraulic jacks and makes it go up. On the down trip, the hydraulic oil is released back into the pump to make it go down. Holed hydraulic are very pollutive because the oil can leak into the environment. That big pole on the bottom of the car is the hydraulic ram.
Baytrail 3 years ago
A traction elevator on the other hand does not used hydraulics. There are 3 methods for this: gearless traction, geared traction and MRL gearless traction. MRL stands for Machine-Room-Less. Instead, a small closet for the controller is placed at the top landing. A traction elevator uses cables and a counterweight that is equivalent to 40% of the elevator's capacity. It doesn't use hydraulics. A geared traction uses a gearbox and has speeds for up to 500 feet per minute and rises up to 27 floors.
Baytrail 3 years ago
A gearless traction does not use a gearbox that weighs the elevator down and has speeds above 500 FPM and up to 1600 and beyond. An MRL elevator is always gearless and runs at speeds of up to 500 FPM. They are beginning to become cheaper than hydraulics and will eventually replace them. So you might be wondering: If gearboxes weigh elevators down, why do they used them? My answer: It's weird, but I have NO clue. So there you have it ahocknul04.
Baytrail 3 years ago
Traction elevators use a motor and ropes basically, a pulley system. The most common types are gearless, geared, and bottom drive.
suzzex 2 years ago
@ahocknul04 Hydraulic is a type of elevator that has something below it, which means it pushes it up, and pulls down. Traction is a type of elevator that runs on cables.
mckuletzz 1 year ago
Very stylish.
FranceHopper 3 years ago
It sounded like the Fire Alarm Was on.
Neuroth52489 3 years ago
Musicfreakcc, sorry for giving you a little extra work, but I wanted to respond with a video, but I linked it to the wrong one. It's starts with, "? Elevator...". Disprove the first link, and accept the second.
Baytrail 3 years ago
Where was the alarm from on SR?
escalatorgeek881 3 years ago
That was a car alarm.
musicfreakcc 3 years ago
Well it appears its beutiful in atlanta BUT NOT HERE! :(
Neuroth52489 3 years ago
Cause I know a fire alarm panel that sounds like that.
Ih8escalators 3 years ago
Did i hear a fire alarm panel on SR?
Ih8escalators 3 years ago
That was a car alarm.
musicfreakcc 3 years ago
I didn't know Kone made roped hydraulic elevators, but it's sad to see even the above ground holeless & roped elevators be discontinued. However, I like traction elevators more, since they're energy efficient, use no oil, travel faster, and are more reliable.
CaptainElevator42189 3 years ago
Yep - those ones were made right before Kone stopped making hydraulic elevators,
musicfreakcc 3 years ago
I know, but I like traction elevators more.
CaptainElevator42189 3 years ago