@peyrus1 Do you enjoy this too? I'll assume you do from your expressionless onomatopoeic imitation of an expression of mirth towards the work. What other works by John Cage do you like?
I know liking John Cage doesn't make you look sophisticated. It isn't supposed to. A lot of John Cage's music is quite simple (IMO) if you would take the time to look it up. If you knew why he did what he did, maybe you would appreciate it. Cage et al. _reacted_ to the "pretentious" stuff.
If you think this is silence, then you have your speakers off. This one actually has sound, and cool sound at that. Silence is 4'33, which was mostly just meant to freak people out and make them think about sound, silence, music etc. Much of his work actually is intended for enjoyable listening, like this one.
John Cage is the best con man alive, he actually make people call him master, its unbelieveable, he makes money publishing silence, now thats talent right there.
I think this is amazing. It's beautiful, but not in the standard classical or romanic style of music. It pushes the boundaries, and while I'm not usually a big fan of avant-garde (especially when it's similar to 4'33" by John Cage or a person sitting in a chair and someone calling it art. Maybe I just don't get it. Whatever.) But this is eerie and yet fascinating. Captivating would be a good word to use to describe it. It reminds me of the Dark Knight (and it's music).
@LadyLilly94 : 4'33'' isn't about someone sitting in a chair, but about the sound that produce a venue filled with people. It's just a controversial way to state that there is no silence.
as a die-hard Yoko Ono fan, I see a lot of her influence in this piece. Cage and Ono collaborated in the Fluxus movement in the 1960s, and influenced each other... Eveh just the title of this piece shows Yoko's effects...
You make great videos. Might I suggest you consider making one for The Beatle's avant-garde piece, Revolution 9? If you haven't heard it, I think you will like it if you like John Cage.
i hate pretentious art like this. futurists and noise musicians are purely academic, anybody who claims to enjoy pieces like this as music are liars. This is sonic art, get over yourselves.
@chooby3000 And is there something wrong with art for purely academic purposes? Minimal, post-minimal, atonal , dodecaphonetic, avant garde and many other styles of modern music might not be something you'd want to listen to for pleasure, but they thought us a lot about music theory and listening to it deepens your understanding of music. That alone makes it worthwhile. It's in fields like this science meets art and that's never a bad thing.
@Silmarunya your right. i dont dissagree with any point you make. You understand this piece, and probably others like it, for what they are. My comment was aimed at those who claim to enjoy the music
@chooby3000 My friend, you are missing 2 points. 1st, "music" is just a term. Many cultures don't even have a word for music. 2nd is that the ear undergoes conditioning. This is why microtones are believed to be beautiful by many cultures, yet are perceived as "out of tune" by western ears. If you grow up listening to certain sounds, you will be more accustomed to them. Once you realize that one's perception of sound is relative, it is easier to see that people can and do enjoy this "music."
A truly excellent marriage of image and sound which I think has resulted in an entirely unique artistic piece. I'm really inspired by your work, well done!
Yes it does. Anything capable of recording sound can act as a sampler if the operator uses it that way. You can't sample without some sort of recording equipment. Therefore, no sampler = no sampling.
Jeez, who says that the recording date has to be the same as the date is was composed. It was composed in 1939. This recording might have been made later on. Think, people.
How much later? If the 1960 date is accurate, it seems very odd indeed that Cage would compose this piece, then neglect to record it for over 20 years!
True, but like beauty, the emotions you get from a composition or any musical piece, is what you get out of it, therefore, o my brother, that this is how it makes him feel.
Traditionally, a Song is defined as music with words.
However the word Song has grown to mean "any peice of music". This is how most people unfamiliar with classical music use the word. Hence, one might describe their favorite song as "Ruby My Dear" by Thelonious Monk, even though the piece is an instrumental. Someone educated about classical music might consider this incorrect, yet most people use the word Song in that fashion.
The English language is always changing. Get used to it.
Bah. "Correct" is whatever definition is used the most.
I'm not writing an essay that's gonna be read by music majors. I'm not writing a review that's gonna be read by classical music audiences. I'm writing a comment on you tube, so I'm going to use words the way most people use them, because clarity, not "correctness", is my goal.
Do yourself a favor and research the difference between linguistic prescriptivism and descriptivism.
I disagree. John Cage is very popular among people without a background in classical music. John Cage fans are just as likely to be fans of Yoko Ono or Sonic Youth than they are to be fans of Beethoven.
if someday you eat magic mushrooms listen to this music... you'll see the best videos for thi song!!! the first time i coudn't ear it more... it was a "mindquake"... Must do
While I enjoy this film, and I think it is very well done, I feel it is applying a visual quality that is not required for his song. John Cage does not compose songs to be designed for music video's, that is not how his music works.
I disagree completely. Cage's music lends itself very well to a percussive collection of images, and to display different colors that may never have been there with music alone.
That's what Bernstein said 50 years ago already. And I think that Cage doesn't want to tell anything with his music. It's just a sound experiment. People are interpreting their own thoughts into it.
@Benalron Have you read anything about or by John Cage? Are you aware of the multi-media events he did or any of the dance music he wrote? Your profile says 22. You are too young to be a purist fuddy-duddy. Please get over it.
Something about people still arguing on whether or not John Cage is music or not music, alot of this having been produced 40 years ago, really says something about the strength of the work. Especially 4 33.
It is a curious thing that your video work and others who use Cage's music generate positive comments about the music, whereas Cage performances are commented on so negatively. Is there something about synchronizing the sounds with something else that imports a sense of "harmony" to Cage's music? It seems that listeners will accept lots of music that is heard in the context of a film.
i really dig this. Cage would love it. The stillness and the static pictures paint this beautiful/haunting image in my mind---i feel as if i am closer to Cage's piece now. Was this video spontaneous, or did you study Cage's piece and come up with the idea due to the piece?
Thanks. Most of my earlier work (like this) is spontaneous; I shoot a concept I have in mind, and I usually have 3 or 4 pieces I may use. I find out which one works best, and edit it for that piece.
Does anyone know how John Cage thought of the art of Turntablism of today? He must have been very happy to see the role of the Deejay change to the level it has. This piece reminds me of a certian trak I herd from DJ Shadow. The litteral sound of the song doesnt remind me of Shadows piece but the feeling I get from it does.
Cage didnt think very high of the populair music he knew. He thought it low on structure. Even if music today sounds like pieces of cage, i think he still would hold his ground, thinking it low on structure.
Cage didnt mind the sounds that sprang from his musical notations, he minded the structural integrity of it.
I don't recall him ever saying anything like this. Do have a source for that? I recall him admiring rock music, which he called electrically amplified pop music, or something like that. He appreciated the volume of that music. Also, he said something about the members of such an ensemble "agreeing" with one another in a way that does not happen with jazz, for example. I never figured out exactly what he meant by that. Any ideas?
It must be somewhere in the 'John Cage an anthologie' by Kostelanetz from '91.
Personally i think Cage really didnt had a real clue to other forms of music, mayb due to context-problems, and through that understood pop and jazz only on a quite superficial level, mostly on the level of 'sounds'.
He thought jazz a clash of musicians, lacking the collaborative harmony ('noses in the same direction from the unset'= 'agreeing') he knew from composed music. Thát he recognized in pop and rock
he says quite a lot in the interview by Michael Zwerin about jazz, rockandroll and electronics. Re-reading it makes me a little timid in the way i expressed his opinion as above. He hates the 'discussion'-aspect of jazzmusic, he doesnt like the beats in jazz and rock, but is less bothered in rock because of its loudness ('one's attention is taken away from the beat by the amplitude') But in the interview he clearly detests most other structural elements of Jazz and rock.
I liked the video very much, and watched it several times, but I cannot rationalise precisely why I liked it. Neither do I know to what extent I would have accepted the music without the visual images to support the sounds.
Interesting stuff, erniesparks. I'm glad to hear we could have a decent, reasonable discussion without jumping down each other's throats. That kind of discussion needs to happen more on YouTube, as a whole. Far too often, comments are short and mean-spirited, without giving much in the way of substance.
Cage tells a story of how he may have arrived at this idea. He was in a restaurant overlooking a swimming pool. A glass pane separated the restaurant from the pool area. He noticed that the background music playing in the restaurant accompanied the swimmers, even though the swimmers couldn't hear it. And he very much wanted to separate music itself from the suggestion of being an emotional lead to a scene. (pt 3)
Cage's notion of differentiation came later (maybe in the 1950s). If he had written or collaborated on a mixed media work then, there would have been two separate and independent workup plans made, with no deliberate coordination, except maybe total length of time. (pt 2)
tracerprod, I appreciate your reply. Thank you. In matter of fact, IL No. 1 was composed in 1939 when Cage was regularly accompanying dancers with percussion music. At that early time the dancing WAS probably synchronized to the music. (pt 1)
It is a style error to synchronize the visual cuts to the sound events. This isn't how Cage and his colleagues would conceive it. Consider Cage & Cunningham. The music is one thing; the dance is something entirely different. They just happen to occur in the same time frame. There is no desire to coordinate the two arts.
Well perhaps I didn't want to conform to stylistic choices. Maybe I was trying to place the music in a new context. To offset the cuts from the music would then signal to the viewer that the creator does not understand the concept of visual editing. It would appear to be a mistake, and I would be getting even more angry YouTube viewers as we speak.
Haunting music, and the videos is areally cool montage. Sorta reminds me of the things I film. xP (I think most of the time I spent filming things I was filming tableaus of trees)
If you like the video it's ok... if you don't... it's ok too. We do not have to agree in everything; and no one owns the truth. I liked the video, I like art, but that doesn't mean that I have more "brain cells" than some othe guy who maybe didn't like it, don't ya think?
You misinterpreted what I said. I meant that some people don't understand that this genre of music exists, and that it isn't always accessible or easy to consume, which I feel sometimes describes my work, which isn't to say it's smarter or better, it's just different. People are free to feel what they want, but ignorance isn't support for an empty comment.
seek this Delfin Quishpe:Torres Gemelas in your youtube , it is a beautiful music. From some point view, I can`t say the same about the video, He lost her girlfriend in 9-11, but it intersting because that ecuatorian composser put his telephone numbers for contracts in the video.
If you like the video it's ok... if you don't... it's ok too. We do not have to agree in everything; and no one owns the truth. I liked the video, I like art, but that doesn't mean that I have more "brain cells" than some othe guy who maybe didn't like it, don't ya think?
How can you say that? I assume you're not familiar with the work of John Cage but doesn't the name "Imaginary Landscape No. 1" doesn't give you some idea of what this work is about?
tracerprod really did amazing work he. He has found a way to combine with images that really fit this abstract music. Good editing work too.
that was pretty stupid you expect these kind of videos to be wierd and abstract bu that was just like something you would see on a nature program it had nothing to do with te music crap i say
Make a video for a John Cage piece that works better, and I'll take your comment seriously. And by the way, your inability to check your comment for obvious errors is crap, how about that? I cannot believe that someone is complaining about how footage fits a fucking avant-garde composer.
all im saying is i would have expected more than filming trees in black and white for 3 minutes i just dont see any imgination but thats my opinion and i dont care if you dont take it seriously
the video is actually really good. sorry that you're an idiot. there's probably a bunch of videos of kids getting hit in the groin on YouTube, you might want to surf through those instead.
I'm sorry I'm so idiotic, too. I believe I might just watch a blank wall for a few days. I'm quite certain that a blank wall could write a better response than happyhappy85. But yes, watching people getting hit in the groin might satisfy my 1.5 total brain cells. At some point, I plan to have no brain cells at all.
@peyrus1 Do you enjoy this too? I'll assume you do from your expressionless onomatopoeic imitation of an expression of mirth towards the work. What other works by John Cage do you like?
I know liking John Cage doesn't make you look sophisticated. It isn't supposed to. A lot of John Cage's music is quite simple (IMO) if you would take the time to look it up. If you knew why he did what he did, maybe you would appreciate it. Cage et al. _reacted_ to the "pretentious" stuff.
AyumuVanguard 6 days ago
If you think this is silence, then you have your speakers off. This one actually has sound, and cool sound at that. Silence is 4'33, which was mostly just meant to freak people out and make them think about sound, silence, music etc. Much of his work actually is intended for enjoyable listening, like this one.
AyumuVanguard 3 months ago
@AyumuVanguard Do you enjoy this? HAHAHAHAHA!
peyrus1 2 months ago
@DamiaanVDW yes yknow his life .
this is not music this is silence
qnd he makes money of that then i play a note in my piano and i make millions of dollars
Azzy1921 4 months ago
johny cage wins!....a grammy someday hopefully
myco578 4 months ago in playlist Philip Glass Mix
John Cage is the best con man alive, he actually make people call him master, its unbelieveable, he makes money publishing silence, now thats talent right there.
Azzy1921 5 months ago
@Azzy1921 y'know his life style was rlly bohemian.. he didn't care about money.. do research before you make statements.
DamiaanVDW 4 months ago
Sounds like Red October :P
FilozofLuke 6 months ago
I like this!
kontrapunkti 7 months ago
Fucking Genious! I Lovee it!
Jrfuckingyouth 8 months ago
I think this is amazing. It's beautiful, but not in the standard classical or romanic style of music. It pushes the boundaries, and while I'm not usually a big fan of avant-garde (especially when it's similar to 4'33" by John Cage or a person sitting in a chair and someone calling it art. Maybe I just don't get it. Whatever.) But this is eerie and yet fascinating. Captivating would be a good word to use to describe it. It reminds me of the Dark Knight (and it's music).
LadyLilly94 8 months ago
@LadyLilly94 : 4'33'' isn't about someone sitting in a chair, but about the sound that produce a venue filled with people. It's just a controversial way to state that there is no silence.
Chocolatmenthe 7 months ago 2
How awesome would it be if the Halo theme came in at 0:34
bassedoutcleff 8 months ago
Very different. Very odd. I like it, though.
TheWeirdPlant 10 months ago
it would be better with a black landscape video
solecipollari 10 months ago
ambient music.
TheGoier 10 months ago
Crimen Sollicitationis
idontam 10 months ago
as a die-hard Yoko Ono fan, I see a lot of her influence in this piece. Cage and Ono collaborated in the Fluxus movement in the 1960s, and influenced each other... Eveh just the title of this piece shows Yoko's effects...
bckm54 11 months ago
@bckm54 the title is something Yoko would use...perhaps in this case he influenced her...
bckm54 11 months ago
@bckm54 I sincerely doubt that, as this piece was written in 1939.
chedbox 10 months ago
brilliant video to accompany this piece
Lucifer986 11 months ago
You make great videos. Might I suggest you consider making one for The Beatle's avant-garde piece, Revolution 9? If you haven't heard it, I think you will like it if you like John Cage.
FriendlyShadow1 1 year ago
sort of reminds me of The Ring
Theo333222111 1 year ago
Check out my John Cage tribute video "The Probability of Chance" by jusstfnsk8
Jusstfnsk8 1 year ago
Very good! Well done.
Wormdei 1 year ago
i hate pretentious art like this. futurists and noise musicians are purely academic, anybody who claims to enjoy pieces like this as music are liars. This is sonic art, get over yourselves.
chooby3000 1 year ago
@chooby3000 And is there something wrong with art for purely academic purposes? Minimal, post-minimal, atonal , dodecaphonetic, avant garde and many other styles of modern music might not be something you'd want to listen to for pleasure, but they thought us a lot about music theory and listening to it deepens your understanding of music. That alone makes it worthwhile. It's in fields like this science meets art and that's never a bad thing.
Silmarunya 1 year ago
@Silmarunya your right. i dont dissagree with any point you make. You understand this piece, and probably others like it, for what they are. My comment was aimed at those who claim to enjoy the music
chooby3000 1 year ago
@chooby3000 umadbro?
Butzopower 1 year ago
@chooby3000 My friend, you are missing 2 points. 1st, "music" is just a term. Many cultures don't even have a word for music. 2nd is that the ear undergoes conditioning. This is why microtones are believed to be beautiful by many cultures, yet are perceived as "out of tune" by western ears. If you grow up listening to certain sounds, you will be more accustomed to them. Once you realize that one's perception of sound is relative, it is easier to see that people can and do enjoy this "music."
thetopface 1 year ago
Great work!
bassoonatic88 1 year ago
cool!!! any more??
jakiner 1 year ago
A truly excellent marriage of image and sound which I think has resulted in an entirely unique artistic piece. I'm really inspired by your work, well done!
xenbay 1 year ago
i'm 20 and i dig it
iwannabeyourdog1969 1 year ago
super chanel
daydreammen 1 year ago
Fantastic video. It ehances the music as the music enhances the video - brilliant!
Who recorded this ?
PopsDizzy 1 year ago
This isn't the entire No. 1, is it? The Score calls for 6 minutes.... just curious.
The video of the mirror breaking is cool though.
LivingfortheFather 1 year ago
The very subjective nature of Cage's music (and ANY music for that matter) begs for vision from the listener.
Well done, tranceprod.
"any sound is musical" JOHN CAGE
"...yeah, in context, maybe." ME
maxcohen13 1 year ago
a very beautiful video, congratulations
brunobcarrasco 1 year ago
very disturbing, nice work :)
sharki1337 1 year ago
This is pure brilliance.
Butzopower 2 years ago
this is totally "ring" worthy.
jonowonoponosono 2 years ago
no smoking :D:D
rafnetpc 2 years ago
sounds like a piece that would be put in a movie... like on a creepy eerie-like scene lol.
Ngelic 2 years ago 3
this was the first song that used sampling so basically it paved the way for all the modern songs 2day
griegmic 2 years ago
They used records of test tones. To call that "sampling" is a bit of a stretch, I think.
Envergure 2 years ago
@Envergure Just because something isn't run through a sampler doesn't mean it isn't sampled.
darkitechture 1 year ago
Yes it does. Anything capable of recording sound can act as a sampler if the operator uses it that way. You can't sample without some sort of recording equipment. Therefore, no sampler = no sampling.
Envergure 1 year ago
Well, then... to use your own logic, they DID sample, because the test tones you refer to had to have been recorded at some point.
darkitechture 1 year ago
I really like the video ..nice job very atmospheric ..!!!
llyy95bu 2 years ago 2
It scares me.
yumihitomi 2 years ago 2
1939 Right
tubenice 2 years ago
Jeez, who says that the recording date has to be the same as the date is was composed. It was composed in 1939. This recording might have been made later on. Think, people.
MizZoo 2 years ago 6
the composition is the recording!!
jan1365 2 years ago
Is this music really from 1939? I find that hard to believe. The audio quality alone suggests a much later date.
garethac81 2 years ago
1960
ANSurdu 2 years ago
That makes more sense. Where are other posters getting the 1939 date from?
garethac81 2 years ago
composed in 1939, recorded later
ikillhippies 2 years ago 2
How much later? If the 1960 date is accurate, it seems very odd indeed that Cage would compose this piece, then neglect to record it for over 20 years!
garethac81 2 years ago
He first performed it in March 24, 1939. All this is is a recording of a later performance
ikillhippies 2 years ago 2
a bit creepy
erickamariangel 2 years ago
The song is 70 years old, not 40 yrs old like someone mentioned earlier in the comments
soulkure 2 years ago
I feel like the song is a disturbing prelude to what was just on the verge of happening in 1939, that is World War II.
Yes, the song is from 1939
soulkure 2 years ago 3
the fisrt electronic music in the history of world
ccccccccccccccccb 2 years ago
nicely done
1flywhiteguy 2 years ago 2
well done, really.
mesamonster91 2 years ago
Your video, like the music, gets a lot across without being complex or obvious. I like it.
kludd28 2 years ago 2
This is amazing U should really look at yourself in thg e mirror if u have something negative to say.
soonjrush 3 years ago
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VeteROCK88 3 years ago
True, but like beauty, the emotions you get from a composition or any musical piece, is what you get out of it, therefore, o my brother, that this is how it makes him feel.
runemonk1 3 years ago
yeah like Verese's electornic poem we now its not a poem but fab music
jamesaellis 3 years ago
beautiful video!
NitramZiarreh 3 years ago 3
"any sound is musical" JOHN CAGE
budalo 3 years ago 33
@budalo Yay, reductionism! Everything is everything! And lo, post-modernism, philosophy of sophists and the intellectually lazy!!! Huzzah!
Ah, yes, I do like Cage, but I loath the equivocations and intellectual posturing that come with fans of his work..
zamg289 10 months ago
Has anyone ever heard this composition, and later on, actually started whistling it? The people I work with must think I'm insane.
RoninLawyer 3 years ago 25
@RoninLawyer Do you think Anton Webern might have wistled some serial-tunes, waiting for the bus or walking his dog ? Grtz
1foradime 1 year ago
@RoninLawyer Do you think Anton Webern might have wistled some serial tunes, waiting for the bus or walking his dog ? Grtz
1foradime 1 year ago
Yeah, this tune is scary. Nice vid, I enjoyed it! :)
0TaZaR0 3 years ago
For some reason this song envokes fear for me.
Good job on the video, certainly fits the mood of the song.
Thelaofkazi 3 years ago 2
Fantastic job! You get it!
jasonels 3 years ago 2
I think this is an awesome video. I think the visuals fit the sound perfectly.
paulie1 3 years ago 2
one of my favorite songs.
you have a good eye. the best part was the shadows.
normloman 3 years ago 2
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Songs have lyrics...
simnos1 3 years ago
Traditionally, a Song is defined as music with words.
However the word Song has grown to mean "any peice of music". This is how most people unfamiliar with classical music use the word. Hence, one might describe their favorite song as "Ruby My Dear" by Thelonious Monk, even though the piece is an instrumental. Someone educated about classical music might consider this incorrect, yet most people use the word Song in that fashion.
The English language is always changing. Get used to it.
normloman 3 years ago 4
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No - the word song has not grown. It is just that people who don't care calling things correctly use it for every piece.
If piece and song would mean the same today, if you visited a concert, in which songs are performed, how would they be called? "Songs for Singer?"
lorenzarthur91 3 years ago
Don't care about calling things correctly?
Bah. "Correct" is whatever definition is used the most.
I'm not writing an essay that's gonna be read by music majors. I'm not writing a review that's gonna be read by classical music audiences. I'm writing a comment on you tube, so I'm going to use words the way most people use them, because clarity, not "correctness", is my goal.
Do yourself a favor and research the difference between linguistic prescriptivism and descriptivism.
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lorenzarthur91 3 years ago
I disagree. John Cage is very popular among people without a background in classical music. John Cage fans are just as likely to be fans of Yoko Ono or Sonic Youth than they are to be fans of Beethoven.
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o0hedphuq0o 2 years ago
no they don't?
v4lkyr 3 years ago
good shooting
sheatheman 3 years ago
Great job on the little film! I like this a lot.
DerangedRanger1 3 years ago
if someday you eat magic mushrooms listen to this music... you'll see the best videos for thi song!!! the first time i coudn't ear it more... it was a "mindquake"... Must do
rboxo 3 years ago
Eyh, I've another interpretation. If you see my film.... Free°language....
renocorleone 3 years ago
nice video!
irispiers 3 years ago
I rly think we don't need a video but that's cool anyway :)
Aneurismo 3 years ago
2. (this comment is too short)
davis1337 3 years ago
I have to compliment the video, really well done. I think John Cage would have made it an official music video if he were alive.
StarijiGospodin 3 years ago 2
While I enjoy this film, and I think it is very well done, I feel it is applying a visual quality that is not required for his song. John Cage does not compose songs to be designed for music video's, that is not how his music works.
Benalron 3 years ago
I disagree completely. Cage's music lends itself very well to a percussive collection of images, and to display different colors that may never have been there with music alone.
tracerprod 3 years ago 2
That is how his music worked in pieces like Water Walk :P
eltrentoro 3 years ago
I guess his music is about pictures as it is about sound itself.
StarijiGospodin 3 years ago
yeh i reckon so too. Took me ages to understand his works but i 'get it' now lol and i feel really a bit mental for enjoying it.
daveisgr81 3 years ago
Music is never ABOUT anything. Music simply IS !
That's what Bernstein said 50 years ago already. And I think that Cage doesn't want to tell anything with his music. It's just a sound experiment. People are interpreting their own thoughts into it.
troedelgerry 3 years ago 6
@Benalron if John Cage explored all arts boundaries i see no reason why any should limit if his work to be used or not along images.
great work Tracerprod :)
acarocacaro 1 year ago
@Benalron if John Cage had no artistic limits i see no reason why should any establish if his work should be used along visuals or not.
great work tracerpod :)
acarocacaro 1 year ago
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DerangedRanger1 1 year ago
@Benalron Have you read anything about or by John Cage? Are you aware of the multi-media events he did or any of the dance music he wrote? Your profile says 22. You are too young to be a purist fuddy-duddy. Please get over it.
DerangedRanger1 1 year ago
I also think that John Cage would approve. well done :D
eltrentoro 3 years ago
I have to compliment the video, really well done. I think John Cage would have made it an official music video if he were alive.
StarijiGospodin 3 years ago
pure beauty!
Nikitaco 3 years ago
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WTF
fabINkennesaw 3 years ago
Thought provoking interesting work.
Bigchurchmusic 4 years ago
Thought provoking interesting work.
Bigchurchmusic 4 years ago
Thought provoking interesting work.
Bigchurchmusic 4 years ago
Something about people still arguing on whether or not John Cage is music or not music, alot of this having been produced 40 years ago, really says something about the strength of the work. Especially 4 33.
cowboystitching 4 years ago 7
such a haunting song, and the video brings out the spooky qualities, i like that.
draculan13 4 years ago
Props to John Cage. He was different, thats for sure.
josh24dude 4 years ago 2
It is a curious thing that your video work and others who use Cage's music generate positive comments about the music, whereas Cage performances are commented on so negatively. Is there something about synchronizing the sounds with something else that imports a sense of "harmony" to Cage's music? It seems that listeners will accept lots of music that is heard in the context of a film.
iwanttowatchsomethin 4 years ago 3
Congratulations!!! Great job!!!
ArthurusPhilippus 4 years ago
i really dig this. Cage would love it. The stillness and the static pictures paint this beautiful/haunting image in my mind---i feel as if i am closer to Cage's piece now. Was this video spontaneous, or did you study Cage's piece and come up with the idea due to the piece?
ColtraneGilg 4 years ago 2
Thanks. Most of my earlier work (like this) is spontaneous; I shoot a concept I have in mind, and I usually have 3 or 4 pieces I may use. I find out which one works best, and edit it for that piece.
tracerprod 4 years ago
i am the walrus
da133 4 years ago
am i in a horror movie?
thepokermyth 4 years ago
Does anyone know how John Cage thought of the art of Turntablism of today? He must have been very happy to see the role of the Deejay change to the level it has. This piece reminds me of a certian trak I herd from DJ Shadow. The litteral sound of the song doesnt remind me of Shadows piece but the feeling I get from it does.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
Cage didnt think very high of the populair music he knew. He thought it low on structure. Even if music today sounds like pieces of cage, i think he still would hold his ground, thinking it low on structure.
Cage didnt mind the sounds that sprang from his musical notations, he minded the structural integrity of it.
cybeavertoo 4 years ago
I don't recall him ever saying anything like this. Do have a source for that? I recall him admiring rock music, which he called electrically amplified pop music, or something like that. He appreciated the volume of that music. Also, he said something about the members of such an ensemble "agreeing" with one another in a way that does not happen with jazz, for example. I never figured out exactly what he meant by that. Any ideas?
iwanttowatchsomethin 4 years ago
It must be somewhere in the 'John Cage an anthologie' by Kostelanetz from '91.
Personally i think Cage really didnt had a real clue to other forms of music, mayb due to context-problems, and through that understood pop and jazz only on a quite superficial level, mostly on the level of 'sounds'.
He thought jazz a clash of musicians, lacking the collaborative harmony ('noses in the same direction from the unset'= 'agreeing') he knew from composed music. Thát he recognized in pop and rock
cybeavertoo 4 years ago
he says quite a lot in the interview by Michael Zwerin about jazz, rockandroll and electronics. Re-reading it makes me a little timid in the way i expressed his opinion as above. He hates the 'discussion'-aspect of jazzmusic, he doesnt like the beats in jazz and rock, but is less bothered in rock because of its loudness ('one's attention is taken away from the beat by the amplitude') But in the interview he clearly detests most other structural elements of Jazz and rock.
cybeavertoo 4 years ago
I liked the video very much, and watched it several times, but I cannot rationalise precisely why I liked it. Neither do I know to what extent I would have accepted the music without the visual images to support the sounds.
BrucknerEnthusiast 4 years ago 2
art is not to understand, but to enjoy. be happy u could and dont ask all those silly why's.
All art, as music is, is contextual, a property Cage really pushed the bounderies of. Like all art, to enjoy it, u have to enjoy the contxt too!
cybeavertoo 4 years ago
ist sehr schön!!!! sehr gut
traplev05 4 years ago
Danke.
tracerprod 4 years ago
Nice job.
derbilmotion 4 years ago
Anyway, I secretly enjoyed your film even as I noted the synchronism. Best wishes, erniesparks (pt last)
erniesparks 4 years ago
Interesting stuff, erniesparks. I'm glad to hear we could have a decent, reasonable discussion without jumping down each other's throats. That kind of discussion needs to happen more on YouTube, as a whole. Far too often, comments are short and mean-spirited, without giving much in the way of substance.
Thanks,
Keith
tracerprod 4 years ago
Cage tells a story of how he may have arrived at this idea. He was in a restaurant overlooking a swimming pool. A glass pane separated the restaurant from the pool area. He noticed that the background music playing in the restaurant accompanied the swimmers, even though the swimmers couldn't hear it. And he very much wanted to separate music itself from the suggestion of being an emotional lead to a scene. (pt 3)
erniesparks 4 years ago
Cage's notion of differentiation came later (maybe in the 1950s). If he had written or collaborated on a mixed media work then, there would have been two separate and independent workup plans made, with no deliberate coordination, except maybe total length of time. (pt 2)
erniesparks 4 years ago
tracerprod, I appreciate your reply. Thank you. In matter of fact, IL No. 1 was composed in 1939 when Cage was regularly accompanying dancers with percussion music. At that early time the dancing WAS probably synchronized to the music. (pt 1)
erniesparks 4 years ago
It is a style error to synchronize the visual cuts to the sound events. This isn't how Cage and his colleagues would conceive it. Consider Cage & Cunningham. The music is one thing; the dance is something entirely different. They just happen to occur in the same time frame. There is no desire to coordinate the two arts.
erniesparks 4 years ago
Well perhaps I didn't want to conform to stylistic choices. Maybe I was trying to place the music in a new context. To offset the cuts from the music would then signal to the viewer that the creator does not understand the concept of visual editing. It would appear to be a mistake, and I would be getting even more angry YouTube viewers as we speak.
tracerprod 4 years ago
Haunting music, and the videos is areally cool montage. Sorta reminds me of the things I film. xP (I think most of the time I spent filming things I was filming tableaus of trees)
FidelioRoo 4 years ago
good job dude
kicklickmick 4 years ago
Ignorance is dangerous. We must destroy ignorance.
espermatodonte 4 years ago
Ignorance, of concepts when listening to music, is bliss.
DavidMJordan 4 years ago
must we destroy things just because they are dangerous? Can we actually accomplish such a goal?
iwanttowatchsomethin 4 years ago
If you like the video it's ok... if you don't... it's ok too. We do not have to agree in everything; and no one owns the truth. I liked the video, I like art, but that doesn't mean that I have more "brain cells" than some othe guy who maybe didn't like it, don't ya think?
enriqueclapton 5 years ago
You misinterpreted what I said. I meant that some people don't understand that this genre of music exists, and that it isn't always accessible or easy to consume, which I feel sometimes describes my work, which isn't to say it's smarter or better, it's just different. People are free to feel what they want, but ignorance isn't support for an empty comment.
tracerprod 4 years ago
seek this Delfin Quishpe:Torres Gemelas in your youtube , it is a beautiful music. From some point view, I can`t say the same about the video, He lost her girlfriend in 9-11, but it intersting because that ecuatorian composser put his telephone numbers for contracts in the video.
espermatodonte 5 years ago
Beautiful
Kahiainen 5 years ago
Very nice video.
It fits actually very good to the music in my opinion.
Ylven 5 years ago
Thanks a lot for this (and the other JC videos). A truly dishy feast for eye and ear.
pympym1 5 years ago
Good work, too bad so many people missed the point.
proman84 5 years ago
Thank you for understanding. It's good to know that someone in the YouTube world has more than 1 brain cell.
tracerprod 5 years ago
If you like the video it's ok... if you don't... it's ok too. We do not have to agree in everything; and no one owns the truth. I liked the video, I like art, but that doesn't mean that I have more "brain cells" than some othe guy who maybe didn't like it, don't ya think?
enriqueclapton 5 years ago
i know this video reminds me of the japanese horror movie too...what IS the point? i quite dont get john cage.
philoprincess 5 years ago
How can you say that? I assume you're not familiar with the work of John Cage but doesn't the name "Imaginary Landscape No. 1" doesn't give you some idea of what this work is about?
tracerprod really did amazing work he. He has found a way to combine with images that really fit this abstract music. Good editing work too.
proman84 5 years ago
Great video!!
RedrumMusicInc 5 years ago
I really like a lot of these shots. Especially at 00:20, I love those prismatic shapes with the sun coming through.
pmcgb 5 years ago
Thanks.
tracerprod 5 years ago
a beautiful piece - fits the music brilliantly
earthmp 5 years ago
Very nice work. Thanks for sharing!
darvinq 5 years ago
that was pretty stupid you expect these kind of videos to be wierd and abstract bu that was just like something you would see on a nature program it had nothing to do with te music crap i say
happyhappy85 5 years ago
Make a video for a John Cage piece that works better, and I'll take your comment seriously. And by the way, your inability to check your comment for obvious errors is crap, how about that? I cannot believe that someone is complaining about how footage fits a fucking avant-garde composer.
tracerprod 5 years ago
all im saying is i would have expected more than filming trees in black and white for 3 minutes i just dont see any imgination but thats my opinion and i dont care if you dont take it seriously
happyhappy85 5 years ago
Oh and dont start talking to me about lighting and effect of the trees casting shadows and all that because i did think of that
happyhappy85 5 years ago
the video is actually really good. sorry that you're an idiot. there's probably a bunch of videos of kids getting hit in the groin on YouTube, you might want to surf through those instead.
BullTankProductions 5 years ago
I'm sorry I'm so idiotic, too. I believe I might just watch a blank wall for a few days. I'm quite certain that a blank wall could write a better response than happyhappy85. But yes, watching people getting hit in the groin might satisfy my 1.5 total brain cells. At some point, I plan to have no brain cells at all.
tracerprod 5 years ago
great video you made
let me remind the jaoanese horror movie
plasticmick 5 years ago