Athletic Performance starts from Signals sent from the Brain relayed to the Nervous System and onto the Muscles. Physical Feats are a result of Focus Mind and Body as one. Hmm Superior Brains???
@sciencestudent342 THATS NOT A PHOTO OF ME ANYWAY ITS ,A PHOTO OF ONE OF MY FAV SINGERS, I WONT PUT A PHOTO OF ME UP SO THAT NUMPTYS LIKE YOU WOULD SAY SILLY THINGS ABOUT ME SO THERE
@TheEctomorph Hey you a fan of history well if so there will be a new film out next month November 11TH about FBI Director J.Edgar Hoover starring Leonardo DiCaprio hope they covered everything about him.He was no ally of the civil rights movement.He was a closet homosexual as well as a crossdresser and dabbled in pedophilia.
@dal4018 Thank you for that information, sir. I will go and see that film when it is released in Great Britain - which may not be until the early part of next year.
By the way, did J.Edgar Hoover purport to believe that gay people did not deserve to have the same civil rights as heterosexual folk? If so, then it could be argued - not without some justification - that the man was a hypocrite, who pretended to be something that he was not.
@sciencestudent342 Sir: Are you threatening with me with physical violence, just because I have 'posted' comments on You Tube that you don't like? I do hope not.
[Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: exact (or even approximate) percentage of current international track and field athletes who break the rules by using illegal performance-enhancing drugs, but if I were a betting man - which I am not - I would be prepared to wager a considerable sum that the figure is WAY higher than 20%.
[Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: example of an honest athlete, who never used illegal performance-enhancing 'persian rugs' during his lengthy and very distinguished career in track and field.
That said, the fact remains that the abuse of anabolic steroids - and other banned performance-enhancing substances - is a very real problem in the world of international athletics today. It is not for me to speculate as to the
[Continuing on from my previous 'post' about the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: are clean, and abide by the rules and regulations laid down by the !AAF and IOC. I have made it crystal clear that I consider Usain Bolt (the current world record holder for the men's 100 and 200m sprints) to be a clean athlete. I have also made a number of positive comments about Michael Johnson (the 400 metres world record holder) on You Tube. I strongly believe that he is another
[Coninuing on from my previous 'post' about the prevalence of perfomance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: abuse of anabolic steroids - and other illicit performance-enhancing substances - by international athletes has virtually been eradicated by improvements in testing procedures. What utter nonsense! What a pathetic point of view.
I have repeatedly expressed the view [on 'You Tube' discussion boards, such as this one] that many of the world's most successful and prominent athletes
@TheEctomorph i dont need any evidence u moron, it takes a retard like u to think these days they will dare take PEDs with so much tessting and liklihood to get caught (i.e. balco and numerous other isolated incidents post millenium) and those days with little-to-no testing they wouldnt have taken a few winstrols a day (which was developed a couple of years before these olympics). ure well spoken and everything, but u sure r dumb lol...please dont contact me anymore, i will block ur account
@sciencestudent342 PED drug taking among elite athletes is, in all probability, considerably more prevalent and widespread today than it was at the time of 1968 Olympics, you t***.
I may not be one of Britain's most knowledgeable athletics pundits ... but at least I don't use The Internet to make malicious, unfounded (and probably libellous) comments about great Olympic champions of the past.
You have the nerve to label ME as a retard, and yet you express the incredibly naive view that the
@sciencestudent342 Sir: I refer to your comment: "I don't need any evidence u moron." I presume that, by that remark, you mean that you think you have the right to say that certain athletes are drug cheats just because you happen to have a feeling or "hunch" that their performances were not achieved merely through a combination of natural talent and hard work.
Are you not familiar with the old legal adage: "A MAN (OR WOMAN) IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"? If you are familiar with it, then
@sciencestudent342 [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about people who condemn athletes as "drug cheats" without evidence]: obviously you have no respect for it whatsoever.
Oh, and just one more thing, sir: You mentioned in one of your previous 'contributions' to this You Tube discussion board that you "have nothing against steroids". If that is the case, then that just serves as further evidence to support my belief that you are an immoral person, with the wrong set of values.
@sciencestudent342 [Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about people who condemn athletes as "drug cheats" without evidence]: In my considered opinion, sir, no true fan of athletics would make the sort of comments that you have made on 'You Tube' discussion boards of late.
@TheEctomorph Number 2: no one thought "the great" carl lewis was on anything, it was all ben johnson blah blah, when others aronund him were doping, only years later did the truth surface,same with the eastern block, so dont gimme some crap about it unfounded, there been proven dopers since the 70s, i am just extrapolating back a little because steroids were available for a long time before this, and all i ive done is expressed my opinions based on liklihood and mathematical extrapoloation...
@TheMrBennito I wouldn't be surprised, either. 'Smithy' was one of the all-time great sprinters - at the 200 metres distance, at any rate. (He also happened to be a very accomplished quarter-miler - unlike Mr Lewis.)
just remember when winstrol came out guys, first lean muscle gainer with super strength increasing effects....enough said...still tho these days they got even stronger shit, pro training, etc etc etc so 19.8 with hands in the air is still fuckin fast and also i have nothing against steroids.
Just look at Tommy Smith running. Can anyone seriously tell me that the sight of him running does not remind you of a baboon running? I'm not being racist, I'm just asking all of you whether black people running on a track doesn't bear any semblance to baboons running in the forest?
@ilovehornyslags Sir: I refer to your pointed comment (and I quote): "Just look at Tommy Smith running. Can anyone seriously tell me that the sight of him running does not remind you a baboon running?"
What an unpleasant, offensive and stupid remark. Yet you claim in your 'post' that you are not a racist. All I can say to that is: "Yeah, right."
@TheEctomorph I've been reading some of your other comments, about Sebastian Coe an Steve Ovett. I like how you refer to me as "Sir" and to Coe and Ovett as "Mr." Coe and "Mr." Ovett. You truly are a snobbish fucking prick, aren't you?
@ilovehornyslags No, I am not a snobbish prick, as a matter of fact. I am an ordinary, working-class chap, with no 'airs and graces' ... and I couldn't talk in a 'posh' upper-middle class accent (like Mr Cameron) even if I wanted to.
You, sir, have shown urself to be a person with unpleasant, racialist attitudes. That pointed remark you made about Tommie Smith earlier this year was highly offensive and disrespectful (as well as being senseless). Are you a chav, by any chance?! Lol.
@ilovehornyslags You got to be kidding me you say your not racist but you compare a great man like Tommie Smith with a baboon.GET A LIFE YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!
@dal4018 Well said, sir; well said indeed. That guy who calls himself "ilovehornyslags" is an annoying, provocative b******, so he is. In fact, judging by that vile remark which he made about Tommie Smith - which was WAY out of order and totally untrue - he is just another one of those boring and intensely irritating Internet 'trolls'.
Oh, and btw, I very much doubt whether that muppet ["ilovehornyslags] is as much of a lothario/womaniser as his 'service user' name implies !!
@dal4018 Yes, that's right ! That guy who uses the 'service user' name "ilovehornyslags" is probably a bit of a dreamer - a bit of a fantasist - when it comes to the pleasures of the flesh, as it were. I'm not saying that he is a virgin ... but I very much doubt whether he is a macho superstud/lothario, either.
@dal4018 Yes, indeed he does ... and so does that churlish, obnoxious git who calls himself "sciencestudent342". A few days ago, he accused me of "stalking" him online, merely because I have responded - in a critical manner - to several comments and opinions that he has 'posted' on You Tube.
The science student to whom I refer - if he really is studying a science subject - has made it crystal clear (on this You Tube discussion board) that he condones the use of anabolic steroids by
@dal4018 Well, that toss-pott who uses the name "ilovehornyslags" is definitely a racist. I don't think that "sciencestudent342" is racist, though; he appears to be a fan of the controversial British sprinter of the 1980s and '90 - Mr Linford Christie.
I have issues/problems with "sciencestudent342" because of his attitudes towards anabolic steroids. He appears to believe that the abuse of these powerful 'persian rugs' (by people who compete as international athletics) is perfectly
@dal4018 [Continuing on from my 'post' about the gentleman who calls himself "sciencestudent342]: acceptable. In my view, that attitude is WRONG. Pure and simple. No 'ifs' or 'buts'.
Another thing - about that chap called "sciencestudent342" - that I object to is his RUDENESS. He has subjected me to all sorts of insults and churlish remarks (on 'You Tube' discussion boards) of late ... and, what is more, the sad b*****d has even had the audacity to accuse me of "stalking" him online.
@dal4018 [Continuing on from my previous post about "sciencestudent342"] international athletes.
This man - "sciencestudent342" - has used words and phrases which suggest that he has an above average IQ, but his attitude towards performance-enhancing 'persian rugs' (and other banned substances) is unacceptable and immoral, IMHO.
amazing speed and so relaxed,think he would have run about 19.56,which is amazing for that era...even more then michael johnsons 200 record.bolt is on steroids
@sonofhendrix [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about Usain Bolt]: passed each and every one of those tests.
I firmly believe that the 6 foot 5" Jamaican is a clean athlete who abides by the rules laid down by the International Association of Athletics Federations. I also believe that he is (probably) the greatest and most naturally talented sprinter that has ever lived on God's Earth.
@TheEctomorph I see you've got a great knowledge of this sport, I will submit my view to you that IMHO Bob Hayes would give a peak-shape Bolt a close run for his money
@bossofalltimeSir: I don't disagree with your assessment of Bob Hayes. He was a phenomenal sprinter in his prime. Indeed, in my humble opinion, he was the greatest and most naturally gifted sprinter that has ever lived ...... with one POSSIBLE exception: a 6 foot 5" Jamaican speedster by the name of Usain Bolt.
It is such a pity that "Bullet" Bob never had the opportunity to compete on one of those super-fast, 'magic carpet' tracks that are available to the top sprinters of today.
@bossofalltime Well, thank you for the compliment, sir; it is very much appreciated. I can assure you, however, that my knowledge of track and field athletics is not outstanding, by any means. I am no Peter Matthews, Mel Watman or David Miller.
@auggdogrules That is a very cynical remark, which - in my view - is way out of order. Have you never heard of the old legal adage: "A MAN (OR WOMAN) IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"? If you have heard of it, then clearly you have no respect for it whatsoever.
May I remind you, sir, that Mr Bolt has been tested for illegal, performance enhancing drugs on a immense number of occasions since he first broke the 100 metres world record (in the June of 2008) and he has
@randomperson331 Judging from your channel page, I take it that you are one of them and that you have a huge bujumbura? How long does it get when you see a sexy woman? 1 foot? 2 feet?
@ilovehornyslags Mister, you are an asshole. If you think that, that moronic comment is at all funny or amusing, then presumably you have an IQ which is roughly on a par with that of the average gorilla.
@TheEctomorph It is scientifically true that nignogs have big bujumburas between their legs, and it is also a fact that nignogs are genetically closer to apes than to humans. ALL the fastest men on earth have been nignogs. Tommie Smith, Carl Lewis, Calvin Smith, James Ray Hines (first man to go sub 10 sec), Maurice Greene, Usain Bolt. The reason for their phenomenal speed is that their ancestors in Africa had to run away from lions and cheetahs and wildebeest, which Europeans never had to do.
In 66 Smith ran a 19.5 200 on a straight. His 100 between 50 meters and 150 meters was under 9. He also ran some amazing 400s mid 44s I think. Powerful athlete regardless politics.
I'm a white sprinter and I have no problems to admit the fact that the average black sportman is faster than the white one, you only have to watch an NBA game to realize.
I'm a black coach who has a majority of white sprinter and the hardest thing to do is to get them passionate about being their best. It seems to me everytime I find a TALENTED white sprinter some yahoo at the next level wants to turn them into an 800m runner. I simply believe that if you work hard and have the passion and are athletic....you can become a sprinter no matter what your color. I also belive NO CLEAN human can go much faster than 9.9 or 9.89...everyone who did imo has CHEATED....
@fadarrell I pretty much agree, certainly about white sprinters. I think it's a mental thing. Now that the Frenchman has gone under 10 seconds I think you'll see a lot more. Bannister broke 4 minutes for a mile in May '54, something athletes had been trying for decades; I think he ran 3:59.7. The very next month Landis did 3:57.9. I'm suspicious of Usain Bolt. Like Griffiths-Joyner the improvements have been too large and too sudden. I just hope he doesn't end up like she did.
@fadarrell Good to hear comment on the issue of drugs from someone with vast experience for once. Puts some perspective on the chunks being lopped off the 100m record since 1999.
@dal4018 I can't prove it....its all out of his system by now....hook him up to a lie detector maybe.....but I still say 9.9 9.8 = messing wit da drug.....
@dal4018 if you follow this thread you will read that I wrote it was imo in my opinion.....its my opinion that is based on an educated guess......I also mentioned that I have no proof but you seem to want to argue about it or start an internet debate....I am not interested in either.....have a nice day.
He took stimulants and should have been banned from the 88 seoul games. stimulants are no doubt a performance enhancing drug. there are documents of it out there a letter stating he was dirty. see the movie bigger, stronger faster.
This should open your eyes. Good movie, it's all on youtube, you should watch it.
watch?v=3rvMlHkLm3M&feature=related see 1:25min mark. He took stimulants, several of them, then watch him stumble in his response as well. He should have been disqualified from the 88 olympics. Calvin Johnson should have gotten the 100m gold, ben johnson, carl, and linford were all dirty.
@dal4018 No problem, great documentary, very informative while capturing drama and embellished with alot of humor, the whole movie is good, if you have the time, you should check it out. I've been around high level sports for some time. The reality is, given the demands of the game and the competition, it's almost a necc evil. Esp in track and field, where winning is everything and the margin of error is so small. Glad you enjoyed. What do you make of jamaican dominance these days?
@uhmfar ... in your humble opinion. I happen to strongly disagree with that cynical view - and, more to the point, so do many people who know a great deal more about athletics than I do: Michael Johnson, for one.
@uhmfar Sir: You are entitled to your opinion ... but, as you say, you are not an athletics coach. Nor, presumably, are you an expert in human physiology.
@fadarrell Darrell thanks already had the info a friend told me but thanks again for telling me.Hey what do you think of track's newest sprint sensation Christophe LeMaitre and him making history running his 9.98 in the 100m last month.I jokingly told a friend that I referred to him as the "Elvis Presley" of this sport.A white guy coming along and doing something that black sprinters did before he was born.
@fadarrell Same here Darrell hope he improves on his 9.97 down to 9.91 again he I think needs to cahnge his training regimin and add some 400m style workouts to add strength as well as speed.It worked for Tyson Gay he ran a pr of 44.89 last summer.Not saying he's has that type of ability but it wouldn't hurt to try maybe he could run a mid 45 400m.
@dal4018 Well, that may be a bit of an exaggeration, but I take your point. Smithy was an athlete who possessed a phenomenal level of speed endurance (as well as a high degree of pure speed). In that respect, he was reminiscent of Michael Johnson ...... or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Michael Johnson was reminiscent of Tommie Smith (seeing that Smithy was competing in top class athletics about a quarter of a century before Johnson rose to prominence as a track star).
@scuster45 Thank you SCUSTER as I told Finn they brought attention to what black americans have the "pleasure" of dealing with in this country when it comes to race relations.I remember a young Brent Musberger saying that they(Carlos&Smith) looked like two black storm troopers on the medal stand for what they did.MORE POWER TO THESE TWO GREAT MEN FOR WHAT THEY DID SMITH&CARLOS 4EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome movie! Im a 68 Olympian collecting photos and movies from all my teammates to assemble on to DVDs for everyone, and we would be absolutely thrilled to have permission from you to include a copy of your movie in our 68 Olympic Team Photoshare Project DVDs! Please click reply to my comment here if this would be POSSIBLE or NOT possible, THANK YOU!
Never, never, never forget Peter Norman, the Australian who came 2nd. He wore a badge in support of these two great men and his country turned its back on him. Unfortunately he died a few years ago, Carlos and Smith were his pallbearers. RIP.
@gnarkillkicksass Mr Norman was indeed a very, very fine sprinter. His time in the 200 metres final at the Mexico City Olympics was 20.06. I think I am correct in saying that, back in 1968, that was the fastest time ever recorded by an IC1 ("white") man. Even today - 43 years on from the '68 Olympics - there are very few white sprinters who have beaten that time. Off the top of my head, I can only name three: Mennea, Borzov and Lemaitre.
@SillyGrandpa Hey Grandpa you must not know about Charles Drew,Thurgood Marshall both men were intellectual giants.One was a Supreme Court Judge and the other was Scientist who created Blood Plasma.
aryan shite ss - if by gold, you meant golf - and that people of african descent can't play then your just a fucking dumbass - Mr. Woods will have something to say about that, I'm white and black people have spring muscle genetics to quicker and stronger.
lol... I guess blacks dont play hockey, Soccer, Baseball, Gold, Tennis and the list goes on ... We even had a black swimmer in the last olympics... hahahahahah
SO i guess you dont consider Brazilians of African Descent black... Or those from france such as theirry Henry.. And they had a black guy on the last relay team with Michael Phelps (Cullen Jones) Do ur research before u spew out garbage!!!!
@dubasher Hey Dubasher I just came from Tommie Smith's website in his prime he HELD 11 WR MARKS SIMOULTANEOUSLY AND AS A COLLEGIAN HE HELD OR BROKE 13 WR MARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF BILL RUSSELL 'S 11 NBA TITLES IN 13 SEASONS.
"...black American sprinters." When's the last time you heard anything like THAT? Was this '68 or '36? I am startled to be reminded how systemic racism was back then.
@highhurdles Back in 1968 - only 43 years ago - respected British television presenters/commentators were still referring to Tommie Smith, John Carlos and Jim Hines as "negro American sprinters". Now I am not a great fan of Political Correctness - particularly when it is taken too far - but I must admit that I was quite shocked (3 years ago) when I watched some vintage footage of the 1968 Olympic Games, and I heard a well-known British athletics commentator use the term "negro American
@highhurdles [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about inappropriate terms for sprinters of Afro-Caribbean origin]: sprinters". That said, I do not believe for one moment that the commentator in question was/is a racialist ... but the fact remains that, back in 1968, British society still was blighted by what you might call institutional racism, and consequently, negative terms like "negro" - and even "darkie" - were widely used (even by decent, fair-minded people who had nothing against
@highhurdles [Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about inappropriate terms for sprinters of Afro-Caribbean origin]: people whose skin colour happened to differ from their own). Thank the Lord that Britain, as a society, has moved on from those days of the late 1960's - in terms of its attitudes towards people of different ethnicity.
Ooh tough question. I'd say around 19.75. He didn't ease down too much, but running without an arm drive will slow you somewhat especially at the end of a race.
I think its more like a 19.6 if he didn't slow down. I know a lot of old sprinters from the Central Valley and Bay Area who ran against Smith. It's their feeling that he was capable of getting into the 19.6s and if he had had a full career down, eventually, into the 19.5s
he really didn't slow down like you would in a qualifying round, the turnover remains and you're not going to lose two tenths in little over 10m. I agree with you that had he had a full career 19.6 would definitely have been run by him. Him and Carlos vs Borzov in Munich 1972 would've been a great race
@FinnMove Hey they did that power salute to show the world what black americans had the pleasure of dealing with in the USA.Mistreament because of something as simple as skin color.
@bossofalltime It certainly would have been. I am inclined to think that, in terms of pure natural ability, Smithy was marginally superior to Borzov as a 200 metres runner (but not at the shorter sprint distance). Having said that, that doesn't necessarily mean that the great American sprinter would have beaten the Ukranian speedster over 200 metres in 1972 - 4 years is a long time in sport, and if Smithy had had the opportunity to compete in the Munich Olympics, he might not have been able
@bossofalltime [Continuing on from my previous post about Tommie Smith and Valeriy Borzov]: to replicate the vintage form that he had produced at the Mexico City Olympics in a slightly earlier era.
I certainly think that, up until the year 1979 or thereabouts, Tommie Smith and Valeriy Borzov had the right to be considered the two greatest 200 metres sprinters in the history of track and field athletics.
@drkthms1 I'm thinking 19.68, but tbh i don't really think he cared. Winning it was reward enough and the record was a bonus. Records don't last forever but he'll always be an olympic champion.
@drkthms1 possibly 0,02...0,03 seconds, not more... the legs were still working hard... pretty much as Bolt's legs in Beijing celebration race... but still you need good balance to raise your hands and keep running at that speed, because lactate has an effect on legs even in 200m...
@drkthms1 It is impossible to say with 100% certainty. But it is entirely reasonable to speculate that he would have returned a time of 19.79 (at the very least). Smithy was an awesome athlete, and his speed-endurance was remarkable. He was a great 400m runner (as well as a superlative 200m sprinter) when he was young and in his prime ..... but I am pretty sure that he never fulfilled his full potential as a quarter miler. His PB (for 400m) was 44.5 ... if memory serves.
I read in a very recent SI article ("Where are they now?") that John Carlos and Tommie Smith do not get along. Apparently, it stems from a statement that John Carlos made saying that he allowed Smith to win the race.
I'm glad the ESPy awards cleared this myth-up. People, had been trying to pull them aways, but Sunday night they proclaimed that they would always be close!
John Carlos was the best sprinter in the world, but he really blew this race. He broke stride, form, rythmn, concentration, everything and then quit near the end and let the Aussie beat his ass for second.
Carlos had stated this in many interviews. He says that he turned and was saying to Tommie ''if you want this gold medal come and get it'' basically it was Carlos saying he literally gave Smith the win. Now Carlos did run 19.92 at US Olympic Trials final and Smith was like 3m behind, but in Mexico City Smith was a different animal and was clearly in 19.7 shape judging from how he ran in the final, and can't see Carlos beating him.
Am I the only one realize that this guy start celebrating like 15 meters before! Lol
alonzostate08 1 month ago
You can tell sbtbfanatic is a small dick honky, he whines about something that happened ages ago.
abanks1959 1 month ago
The blacks were disgraceful for giving their racist "black power" salute.
sbtbfanatic 1 month ago
wonderful Tommie Smith
222mozart 2 months ago
Athletic Performance starts from Signals sent from the Brain relayed to the Nervous System and onto the Muscles. Physical Feats are a result of Focus Mind and Body as one. Hmm Superior Brains???
God made Horses much Faster than Donkeys lol
MicahLeviClark 2 months ago
That dude's all legs!
dovespin1 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 so fast to reply, is this all u do while waiting for ur surgery?
sciencestudent342 3 months ago
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MsRuth02 3 months ago
@MsRuth02 i will wish u well and hope the procedure goes smoothly
sciencestudent342 3 months ago
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MsRuth02 3 months ago
@MsRuth02 *double checks ruths profile...see a manly looking figure *confused llook on scientists face** ..........Naaaaaah, im pretty sure its u hahahahahahahahaa
sciencestudent342 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 THATS NOT A PHOTO OF ME ANYWAY ITS ,A PHOTO OF ONE OF MY FAV SINGERS, I WONT PUT A PHOTO OF ME UP SO THAT NUMPTYS LIKE YOU WOULD SAY SILLY THINGS ABOUT ME SO THERE
MsRuth02 1 month ago
@MsRuth02 what the hell r u replying so late for?
sciencestudent342 1 month ago
@sciencestudent342 No reason for replying so late ,Better Late Than Never as they say LOL
MsRuth02 1 month ago
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MsRuth02 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Hey you a fan of history well if so there will be a new film out next month November 11TH about FBI Director J.Edgar Hoover starring Leonardo DiCaprio hope they covered everything about him.He was no ally of the civil rights movement.He was a closet homosexual as well as a crossdresser and dabbled in pedophilia.
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 Thank you for that information, sir. I will go and see that film when it is released in Great Britain - which may not be until the early part of next year.
By the way, did J.Edgar Hoover purport to believe that gay people did not deserve to have the same civil rights as heterosexual folk? If so, then it could be argued - not without some justification - that the man was a hypocrite, who pretended to be something that he was not.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph CAN YOU SAY HYPOCRITE THIS MAN WORE WOMEN'S CLOTHING HE PUT VICTORIA'S SECRET ON THE MAP!!!!!
dal4018 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph YOU TELL HIM!!
MsRuth02 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 Sir: Are you threatening with me with physical violence, just because I have 'posted' comments on You Tube that you don't like? I do hope not.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
[Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: exact (or even approximate) percentage of current international track and field athletes who break the rules by using illegal performance-enhancing drugs, but if I were a betting man - which I am not - I would be prepared to wager a considerable sum that the figure is WAY higher than 20%.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
[Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: example of an honest athlete, who never used illegal performance-enhancing 'persian rugs' during his lengthy and very distinguished career in track and field.
That said, the fact remains that the abuse of anabolic steroids - and other banned performance-enhancing substances - is a very real problem in the world of international athletics today. It is not for me to speculate as to the
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
[Continuing on from my previous 'post' about the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: are clean, and abide by the rules and regulations laid down by the !AAF and IOC. I have made it crystal clear that I consider Usain Bolt (the current world record holder for the men's 100 and 200m sprints) to be a clean athlete. I have also made a number of positive comments about Michael Johnson (the 400 metres world record holder) on You Tube. I strongly believe that he is another
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
[Coninuing on from my previous 'post' about the prevalence of perfomance-enhancing drugs in athletics]: abuse of anabolic steroids - and other illicit performance-enhancing substances - by international athletes has virtually been eradicated by improvements in testing procedures. What utter nonsense! What a pathetic point of view.
I have repeatedly expressed the view [on 'You Tube' discussion boards, such as this one] that many of the world's most successful and prominent athletes
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph i dont need any evidence u moron, it takes a retard like u to think these days they will dare take PEDs with so much tessting and liklihood to get caught (i.e. balco and numerous other isolated incidents post millenium) and those days with little-to-no testing they wouldnt have taken a few winstrols a day (which was developed a couple of years before these olympics). ure well spoken and everything, but u sure r dumb lol...please dont contact me anymore, i will block ur account
sciencestudent342 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 PED drug taking among elite athletes is, in all probability, considerably more prevalent and widespread today than it was at the time of 1968 Olympics, you t***.
I may not be one of Britain's most knowledgeable athletics pundits ... but at least I don't use The Internet to make malicious, unfounded (and probably libellous) comments about great Olympic champions of the past.
You have the nerve to label ME as a retard, and yet you express the incredibly naive view that the
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 Sir: I refer to your comment: "I don't need any evidence u moron." I presume that, by that remark, you mean that you think you have the right to say that certain athletes are drug cheats just because you happen to have a feeling or "hunch" that their performances were not achieved merely through a combination of natural talent and hard work.
Are you not familiar with the old legal adage: "A MAN (OR WOMAN) IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"? If you are familiar with it, then
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about people who condemn athletes as "drug cheats" without evidence]: obviously you have no respect for it whatsoever.
Oh, and just one more thing, sir: You mentioned in one of your previous 'contributions' to this You Tube discussion board that you "have nothing against steroids". If that is the case, then that just serves as further evidence to support my belief that you are an immoral person, with the wrong set of values.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@sciencestudent342 [Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about people who condemn athletes as "drug cheats" without evidence]: In my considered opinion, sir, no true fan of athletics would make the sort of comments that you have made on 'You Tube' discussion boards of late.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Number 2: no one thought "the great" carl lewis was on anything, it was all ben johnson blah blah, when others aronund him were doping, only years later did the truth surface,same with the eastern block, so dont gimme some crap about it unfounded, there been proven dopers since the 70s, i am just extrapolating back a little because steroids were available for a long time before this, and all i ive done is expressed my opinions based on liklihood and mathematical extrapoloation...
sciencestudent342 3 months ago
His stride is Very Sic!
Sdelosinfiernos 3 months ago
wouldnt be surprised if carl lewis studied all the footage on tommie smith
TheMrBennito 4 months ago
@TheMrBennito Could you have blamed him if he did watching a legend???????
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 oh if u mean there s more than 1 reason to study this footage, i fully agree.. i referred here to smith' running technique and style
TheMrBennito 3 months ago
@TheMrBennito Yes that is exactly what I meant studying Smith's technique he made passing Carlos look way to easy
dal4018 3 months ago
@TheMrBennito I wouldn't be surprised, either. 'Smithy' was one of the all-time great sprinters - at the 200 metres distance, at any rate. (He also happened to be a very accomplished quarter-miler - unlike Mr Lewis.)
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
just remember when winstrol came out guys, first lean muscle gainer with super strength increasing effects....enough said...still tho these days they got even stronger shit, pro training, etc etc etc so 19.8 with hands in the air is still fuckin fast and also i have nothing against steroids.
sciencestudent342 4 months ago
Just look at Tommy Smith running. Can anyone seriously tell me that the sight of him running does not remind you of a baboon running? I'm not being racist, I'm just asking all of you whether black people running on a track doesn't bear any semblance to baboons running in the forest?
ilovehornyslags 6 months ago
@ilovehornyslags not really lol
TheMonsterCable 6 months ago
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@ilovehornyslags you are being racist.
MrGetslow 4 months ago
@ilovehornyslags Sir: I refer to your pointed comment (and I quote): "Just look at Tommy Smith running. Can anyone seriously tell me that the sight of him running does not remind you a baboon running?"
What an unpleasant, offensive and stupid remark. Yet you claim in your 'post' that you are not a racist. All I can say to that is: "Yeah, right."
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
@TheEctomorph I've been reading some of your other comments, about Sebastian Coe an Steve Ovett. I like how you refer to me as "Sir" and to Coe and Ovett as "Mr." Coe and "Mr." Ovett. You truly are a snobbish fucking prick, aren't you?
ilovehornyslags 3 months ago
@ilovehornyslags No, I am not a snobbish prick, as a matter of fact. I am an ordinary, working-class chap, with no 'airs and graces' ... and I couldn't talk in a 'posh' upper-middle class accent (like Mr Cameron) even if I wanted to.
You, sir, have shown urself to be a person with unpleasant, racialist attitudes. That pointed remark you made about Tommie Smith earlier this year was highly offensive and disrespectful (as well as being senseless). Are you a chav, by any chance?! Lol.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph please have some mercy on him, he just saw too many National Geographic series
TheMrBennito 3 months ago
@ilovehornyslags You got to be kidding me you say your not racist but you compare a great man like Tommie Smith with a baboon.GET A LIFE YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 Well said, sir; well said indeed. That guy who calls himself "ilovehornyslags" is an annoying, provocative b******, so he is. In fact, judging by that vile remark which he made about Tommie Smith - which was WAY out of order and totally untrue - he is just another one of those boring and intensely irritating Internet 'trolls'.
Oh, and btw, I very much doubt whether that muppet ["ilovehornyslags] is as much of a lothario/womaniser as his 'service user' name implies !!
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Your welcomed sir that guy in your own polite way your refered to him as a wannabee when it came to the opposite gender?
dal4018 3 months ago
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TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@dal4018 Yes, that's right ! That guy who uses the 'service user' name "ilovehornyslags" is probably a bit of a dreamer - a bit of a fantasist - when it comes to the pleasures of the flesh, as it were. I'm not saying that he is a virgin ... but I very much doubt whether he is a macho superstud/lothario, either.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph He needless to say has issues
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 Yes, indeed he does ... and so does that churlish, obnoxious git who calls himself "sciencestudent342". A few days ago, he accused me of "stalking" him online, merely because I have responded - in a critical manner - to several comments and opinions that he has 'posted' on You Tube.
The science student to whom I refer - if he really is studying a science subject - has made it crystal clear (on this You Tube discussion board) that he condones the use of anabolic steroids by
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Needless to say this guy's a racist right sir?
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 Well, that toss-pott who uses the name "ilovehornyslags" is definitely a racist. I don't think that "sciencestudent342" is racist, though; he appears to be a fan of the controversial British sprinter of the 1980s and '90 - Mr Linford Christie.
I have issues/problems with "sciencestudent342" because of his attitudes towards anabolic steroids. He appears to believe that the abuse of these powerful 'persian rugs' (by people who compete as international athletics) is perfectly
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Okay point taken he needs to talk with LYLE ALZADO oops sorry about that he can't talk anymore HE IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 [Continuing on from my 'post' about the gentleman who calls himself "sciencestudent342]: acceptable. In my view, that attitude is WRONG. Pure and simple. No 'ifs' or 'buts'.
Another thing - about that chap called "sciencestudent342" - that I object to is his RUDENESS. He has subjected me to all sorts of insults and churlish remarks (on 'You Tube' discussion boards) of late ... and, what is more, the sad b*****d has even had the audacity to accuse me of "stalking" him online.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@dal4018 [Continuing on from my previous post about "sciencestudent342"] international athletes.
This man - "sciencestudent342" - has used words and phrases which suggest that he has an above average IQ, but his attitude towards performance-enhancing 'persian rugs' (and other banned substances) is unacceptable and immoral, IMHO.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph It amazes me how ppl like him try to hide their racist tendencies threw something natural as science.
dal4018 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Hey next time you hear from that "college graduate" play this for him v=KutXyPEEbQs
dal4018 3 months ago
amazing speed and so relaxed,think he would have run about 19.56,which is amazing for that era...even more then michael johnsons 200 record.bolt is on steroids
auggdogrules 8 months ago
@auggdogrules if steroids showed up in the mandatory testing, bolt would be banned in a heart beat...you prat!
sonofhendrix 4 months ago
@sonofhendrix [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about Usain Bolt]: passed each and every one of those tests.
I firmly believe that the 6 foot 5" Jamaican is a clean athlete who abides by the rules laid down by the International Association of Athletics Federations. I also believe that he is (probably) the greatest and most naturally talented sprinter that has ever lived on God's Earth.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph I see you've got a great knowledge of this sport, I will submit my view to you that IMHO Bob Hayes would give a peak-shape Bolt a close run for his money
bossofalltime 3 months ago
@bossofalltimeSir: I don't disagree with your assessment of Bob Hayes. He was a phenomenal sprinter in his prime. Indeed, in my humble opinion, he was the greatest and most naturally gifted sprinter that has ever lived ...... with one POSSIBLE exception: a 6 foot 5" Jamaican speedster by the name of Usain Bolt.
It is such a pity that "Bullet" Bob never had the opportunity to compete on one of those super-fast, 'magic carpet' tracks that are available to the top sprinters of today.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@bossofalltime Well, thank you for the compliment, sir; it is very much appreciated. I can assure you, however, that my knowledge of track and field athletics is not outstanding, by any means. I am no Peter Matthews, Mel Watman or David Miller.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@auggdogrules That is a very cynical remark, which - in my view - is way out of order. Have you never heard of the old legal adage: "A MAN (OR WOMAN) IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"? If you have heard of it, then clearly you have no respect for it whatsoever.
May I remind you, sir, that Mr Bolt has been tested for illegal, performance enhancing drugs on a immense number of occasions since he first broke the 100 metres world record (in the June of 2008) and he has
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
met this amazing man today at his invitaional.was so honored to run in his meet!
bound2suceed 8 months ago
BLACK POWER!
MrHav1k 8 months ago
They all have HUGE bujumburas between their legs and they can swing from tree to tree !!!
ilovehornyslags 9 months ago
@ilovehornyslags smh
randomperson331 7 months ago
@randomperson331 Judging from your channel page, I take it that you are one of them and that you have a huge bujumbura? How long does it get when you see a sexy woman? 1 foot? 2 feet?
ilovehornyslags 7 months ago
@ilovehornyslags Mister, you are an asshole. If you think that, that moronic comment is at all funny or amusing, then presumably you have an IQ which is roughly on a par with that of the average gorilla.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph hey can u tell ur tranny lover to stop messaging me, i think hes gettin lonely
sciencestudent342 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph It is scientifically true that nignogs have big bujumburas between their legs, and it is also a fact that nignogs are genetically closer to apes than to humans. ALL the fastest men on earth have been nignogs. Tommie Smith, Carl Lewis, Calvin Smith, James Ray Hines (first man to go sub 10 sec), Maurice Greene, Usain Bolt. The reason for their phenomenal speed is that their ancestors in Africa had to run away from lions and cheetahs and wildebeest, which Europeans never had to do.
ilovehornyslags 2 months ago
In 66 Smith ran a 19.5 200 on a straight. His 100 between 50 meters and 150 meters was under 9. He also ran some amazing 400s mid 44s I think. Powerful athlete regardless politics.
2Baker40 1 year ago
I'm a white sprinter and I have no problems to admit the fact that the average black sportman is faster than the white one, you only have to watch an NBA game to realize.
sainttheodosio 1 year ago
I'm a black coach who has a majority of white sprinter and the hardest thing to do is to get them passionate about being their best. It seems to me everytime I find a TALENTED white sprinter some yahoo at the next level wants to turn them into an 800m runner. I simply believe that if you work hard and have the passion and are athletic....you can become a sprinter no matter what your color. I also belive NO CLEAN human can go much faster than 9.9 or 9.89...everyone who did imo has CHEATED....
fadarrell 1 year ago
@fadarrell I pretty much agree, certainly about white sprinters. I think it's a mental thing. Now that the Frenchman has gone under 10 seconds I think you'll see a lot more. Bannister broke 4 minutes for a mile in May '54, something athletes had been trying for decades; I think he ran 3:59.7. The very next month Landis did 3:57.9. I'm suspicious of Usain Bolt. Like Griffiths-Joyner the improvements have been too large and too sudden. I just hope he doesn't end up like she did.
madmax8903 1 year ago
@fadarrell Good to hear comment on the issue of drugs from someone with vast experience for once. Puts some perspective on the chunks being lopped off the 100m record since 1999.
thetracwatchman 1 year ago
@fadarrell
I'm not a coach, but I've always believed the same. No one who has gone under 9.90, and certainly under 9.80, has been clean.
uhmfar 11 months ago
@uhmfar bingo!!!!!
fadarrell 11 months ago
@uhmfar Even "King Carl"
dal4018 11 months ago
@dal4018 even king carl......
fadarrell 11 months ago
@fadarrell No one has proven this about Carl being dirty how would you if you had the opportunity?
dal4018 11 months ago
@dal4018 I can't prove it....its all out of his system by now....hook him up to a lie detector maybe.....but I still say 9.9 9.8 = messing wit da drug.....
fadarrell 11 months ago
@fadarrell If that is the case then add the newest sensation to this list as well France's Christophe LeMaitre he ran 9.98 and 9.97 last summer
dal4018 11 months ago
@fadarrell What drug was KING CARL using while in his prime?
dal4018 9 months ago
n@dal4018 not a clue....
fadarrell 8 months ago
@fadarrell If you don't know what illegal drug Carl Lewis was using in his prime them why would you say he did use them if you have no proof?
dal4018 8 months ago
@dal4018 if you follow this thread you will read that I wrote it was imo in my opinion.....its my opinion that is based on an educated guess......I also mentioned that I have no proof but you seem to want to argue about it or start an internet debate....I am not interested in either.....have a nice day.
fadarrell 8 months ago
@fadarrell Okay agree if its just your opinion what did you base it on that you felt Lewis ran dirty he always tested clean.
dal4018 8 months ago
@dal4018
He took stimulants and should have been banned from the 88 seoul games. stimulants are no doubt a performance enhancing drug. there are documents of it out there a letter stating he was dirty. see the movie bigger, stronger faster.
TheAngeltoDemon 4 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon No one had brought forth any evidence to say Lewis was a cheat
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018
This should open your eyes. Good movie, it's all on youtube, you should watch it.
watch?v=3rvMlHkLm3M&feature=related see 1:25min mark. He took stimulants, several of them, then watch him stumble in his response as well. He should have been disqualified from the 88 olympics. Calvin Johnson should have gotten the 100m gold, ben johnson, carl, and linford were all dirty.
TheAngeltoDemon 3 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Okay demon I'll watch
dal4018 3 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Very informative thanks
dal4018 3 months ago
@dal4018 No problem, great documentary, very informative while capturing drama and embellished with alot of humor, the whole movie is good, if you have the time, you should check it out. I've been around high level sports for some time. The reality is, given the demands of the game and the competition, it's almost a necc evil. Esp in track and field, where winning is everything and the margin of error is so small. Glad you enjoyed. What do you make of jamaican dominance these days?
TheAngeltoDemon 3 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Yes very informative told others about it waiting for a response
dal4018 3 months ago
@fadarrell Okay point taken
dal4018 8 months ago
@uhmfar ... in your humble opinion. I happen to strongly disagree with that cynical view - and, more to the point, so do many people who know a great deal more about athletics than I do: Michael Johnson, for one.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
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@uhmfar Sir: You are entitled to your opinion ... but, as you say, you are not an athletics coach. Nor, presumably, are you an expert in human physiology.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@fadarrell Then you should coach them instead what college are you at currently?
dal4018 3 months ago
To any and all that may be curious the name of the third American sprinter is Larry Questad and he was a NCAA champ in '63 from Stanford in the 100m.
dal4018 1 year ago
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dal4018 1 year ago
Peter Norman - Australian !!!
eugenius101 1 year ago
@eugenius101 No way the guy's name was Larry Questad and this guy was a NCAA Champion sprinter from STANFORD NO LESS IN '63
dal4018 1 year ago
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fadarrell 1 year ago
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fadarrell 1 year ago
@dal4018 ok here is the correct answer finally LARRY QUESTAD, who finished 6th with a time of 20.62....
fadarrell 1 year ago
@fadarrell Darrell thanks already had the info a friend told me but thanks again for telling me.Hey what do you think of track's newest sprint sensation Christophe LeMaitre and him making history running his 9.98 in the 100m last month.I jokingly told a friend that I referred to him as the "Elvis Presley" of this sport.A white guy coming along and doing something that black sprinters did before he was born.
dal4018 1 year ago
@dal4018 I hope he gives the other white athletes inspiration to do just the same.....stick with their passion and become great sprinters.
fadarrell 11 months ago
@fadarrell Same here Darrell hope he improves on his 9.97 down to 9.91 again he I think needs to cahnge his training regimin and add some 400m style workouts to add strength as well as speed.It worked for Tyson Gay he ran a pr of 44.89 last summer.Not saying he's has that type of ability but it wouldn't hurt to try maybe he could run a mid 45 400m.
dal4018 11 months ago
Smith blew by Carlos as if he were standing still the last 40-50 meters.
dal4018 1 year ago
@dal4018 Well, that may be a bit of an exaggeration, but I take your point. Smithy was an athlete who possessed a phenomenal level of speed endurance (as well as a high degree of pure speed). In that respect, he was reminiscent of Michael Johnson ...... or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Michael Johnson was reminiscent of Tommie Smith (seeing that Smithy was competing in top class athletics about a quarter of a century before Johnson rose to prominence as a track star).
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@TheEctomorph Hey that is no exaggeration to me its as if he looked at a invisible watch then said GOOD BYE!!!!!!!
dal4018 3 months ago
@scuster45 Thank you SCUSTER as I told Finn they brought attention to what black americans have the "pleasure" of dealing with in this country when it comes to race relations.I remember a young Brent Musberger saying that they(Carlos&Smith) looked like two black storm troopers on the medal stand for what they did.MORE POWER TO THESE TWO GREAT MEN FOR WHAT THEY DID SMITH&CARLOS 4EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dal4018 1 year ago
Awesome movie! Im a 68 Olympian collecting photos and movies from all my teammates to assemble on to DVDs for everyone, and we would be absolutely thrilled to have permission from you to include a copy of your movie in our 68 Olympic Team Photoshare Project DVDs! Please click reply to my comment here if this would be POSSIBLE or NOT possible, THANK YOU!
CheckAvai1abi1ity 1 year ago
@CheckAvai1abi1ity Hey CheckAvail I think a full length feature film should be done about these two men.
dal4018 1 year ago
Never, never, never forget Peter Norman, the Australian who came 2nd. He wore a badge in support of these two great men and his country turned its back on him. Unfortunately he died a few years ago, Carlos and Smith were his pallbearers. RIP.
gnarkillkicksass 1 year ago 5
@gnarkillkicksass Yes Gnarls don't forget that man Peter Norman he supported them in the hour of courage.RIP to a great man Peter Norman.
dal4018 1 year ago 3
@gnarkillkicksass Mr Norman was indeed a very, very fine sprinter. His time in the 200 metres final at the Mexico City Olympics was 20.06. I think I am correct in saying that, back in 1968, that was the fastest time ever recorded by an IC1 ("white") man. Even today - 43 years on from the '68 Olympics - there are very few white sprinters who have beaten that time. Off the top of my head, I can only name three: Mennea, Borzov and Lemaitre.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
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Blacks may be good in sports but they are very light in the intellect department. The sports that blacks excell in were all invented by whites !!!!
SillyGrandpa 2 years ago
@SillyGrandpa Hey Grandpa you must not know about Charles Drew,Thurgood Marshall both men were intellectual giants.One was a Supreme Court Judge and the other was Scientist who created Blood Plasma.
dal4018 1 year ago
@SillyGrandpa Hey Grandpa you must not know about Charles Drew,Thurgood Marshall both men were intellectual giants.
dal4018 1 year ago
great
andreatard 2 years ago
Aryan....whatever. You`re so stupid. The best ever was Pelé. Not white exactly.
tonythetigerII 2 years ago
aryan shite ss - if by gold, you meant golf - and that people of african descent can't play then your just a fucking dumbass - Mr. Woods will have something to say about that, I'm white and black people have spring muscle genetics to quicker and stronger.
00parryt 2 years ago
you mean like basketball, football etc? dumb ass.
DM1522 2 years ago
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Niggers can't participate in anything but running, they don't know how to do any REAL sport
AryanWarriorSS 2 years ago
lol... I guess blacks dont play hockey, Soccer, Baseball, Gold, Tennis and the list goes on ... We even had a black swimmer in the last olympics... hahahahahah
verb32 2 years ago
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100% fact there's no niggers that have won a world cup in soccer or played good hockey, and spooks can't swim so nice try
AryanWarriorSS 2 years ago
SO i guess you dont consider Brazilians of African Descent black... Or those from france such as theirry Henry.. And they had a black guy on the last relay team with Michael Phelps (Cullen Jones) Do ur research before u spew out garbage!!!!
verb32 2 years ago
haha they cut out the bronze white sprinter Peter Norman...
SurfandPoleVault 2 years ago
silver white sprinter
smwmur 2 years ago
oh my b im meant silver lolz
SurfandPoleVault 2 years ago
he came to my school Acland Burghley UK 2008
N19Spartan 3 years ago
Smith was Bolt 40 years earlier!
dubasher 3 years ago 29
Ha I know ehh !
JacobReesor 2 years ago
@dubasher Yes DUBASHER HE WAS BOLT 4 DECADES EARLIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dal4018 1 year ago
@dubasher Hey Dubasher I just came from Tommie Smith's website in his prime he HELD 11 WR MARKS SIMOULTANEOUSLY AND AS A COLLEGIAN HE HELD OR BROKE 13 WR MARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF BILL RUSSELL 'S 11 NBA TITLES IN 13 SEASONS.
dal4018 1 year ago
@dubasher Smith was "elegant"!
rogelton1 1 year ago
Smith played for the 1969 Cincinati Bengals, one of the assistant coaches...Bill Walsh
vitoduval 3 years ago
"...black American sprinters." When's the last time you heard anything like THAT? Was this '68 or '36? I am startled to be reminded how systemic racism was back then.
highhurdles 3 years ago
the word 'black' denotes racism? Please, this is not the platform for politics thank you very much!
Let's talk about Obama's 'typical white person' comment if you want to go there, "brother".
thepowerhouse4u 3 years ago 3
They are black and they are sprinters, no racism intended, just facts
SamuelMcGuffie 2 years ago
@highhurdles Back in 1968 - only 43 years ago - respected British television presenters/commentators were still referring to Tommie Smith, John Carlos and Jim Hines as "negro American sprinters". Now I am not a great fan of Political Correctness - particularly when it is taken too far - but I must admit that I was quite shocked (3 years ago) when I watched some vintage footage of the 1968 Olympic Games, and I heard a well-known British athletics commentator use the term "negro American
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@highhurdles [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about inappropriate terms for sprinters of Afro-Caribbean origin]: sprinters". That said, I do not believe for one moment that the commentator in question was/is a racialist ... but the fact remains that, back in 1968, British society still was blighted by what you might call institutional racism, and consequently, negative terms like "negro" - and even "darkie" - were widely used (even by decent, fair-minded people who had nothing against
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@highhurdles [Continuing on from my previous 'posts' about inappropriate terms for sprinters of Afro-Caribbean origin]: people whose skin colour happened to differ from their own). Thank the Lord that Britain, as a society, has moved on from those days of the late 1960's - in terms of its attitudes towards people of different ethnicity.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
how fast would tommie have ran had he not rasised his hands for the final 5-10 meters.
drkthms1 3 years ago 20
Ooh tough question. I'd say around 19.75. He didn't ease down too much, but running without an arm drive will slow you somewhat especially at the end of a race.
bossofalltime 3 years ago
I think its more like a 19.6 if he didn't slow down. I know a lot of old sprinters from the Central Valley and Bay Area who ran against Smith. It's their feeling that he was capable of getting into the 19.6s and if he had had a full career down, eventually, into the 19.5s
kahirij 2 years ago 2
he really didn't slow down like you would in a qualifying round, the turnover remains and you're not going to lose two tenths in little over 10m. I agree with you that had he had a full career 19.6 would definitely have been run by him. Him and Carlos vs Borzov in Munich 1972 would've been a great race
bossofalltime 2 years ago
He and John Carlos did a very stupid thing when they got their medals. Showing black power to the whole world !
Did they know really that they will be hardly punished after that ?
FinnMove 2 years ago
@FinnMove Hey they did that power salute to show the world what black americans had the pleasure of dealing with in the USA.Mistreament because of something as simple as skin color.
dal4018 1 year ago
@bossofalltime It certainly would have been. I am inclined to think that, in terms of pure natural ability, Smithy was marginally superior to Borzov as a 200 metres runner (but not at the shorter sprint distance). Having said that, that doesn't necessarily mean that the great American sprinter would have beaten the Ukranian speedster over 200 metres in 1972 - 4 years is a long time in sport, and if Smithy had had the opportunity to compete in the Munich Olympics, he might not have been able
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@bossofalltime [Continuing on from my previous post about Tommie Smith and Valeriy Borzov]: to replicate the vintage form that he had produced at the Mexico City Olympics in a slightly earlier era.
I certainly think that, up until the year 1979 or thereabouts, Tommie Smith and Valeriy Borzov had the right to be considered the two greatest 200 metres sprinters in the history of track and field athletics.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
@drkthms1 I'm thinking 19.68, but tbh i don't really think he cared. Winning it was reward enough and the record was a bonus. Records don't last forever but he'll always be an olympic champion.
riddlemethis101 1 year ago
@drkthms1 Hey maybe 19.6 or 19.7 who knows.
dal4018 1 year ago
@drkthms1 possibly 0,02...0,03 seconds, not more... the legs were still working hard... pretty much as Bolt's legs in Beijing celebration race... but still you need good balance to raise your hands and keep running at that speed, because lactate has an effect on legs even in 200m...
susspuss 11 months ago
@drkthms1 19.68 im guessing
GoofyVideoMaster 10 months ago
@drkthms1 how much running did he hands do??
ozwunder69 8 months ago
@drkthms1 It is impossible to say with 100% certainty. But it is entirely reasonable to speculate that he would have returned a time of 19.79 (at the very least). Smithy was an awesome athlete, and his speed-endurance was remarkable. He was a great 400m runner (as well as a superlative 200m sprinter) when he was young and in his prime ..... but I am pretty sure that he never fulfilled his full potential as a quarter miler. His PB (for 400m) was 44.5 ... if memory serves.
TheEctomorph 3 months ago
In this case it's black & white, man
kevinherbert 3 years ago 3
I read in a very recent SI article ("Where are they now?") that John Carlos and Tommie Smith do not get along. Apparently, it stems from a statement that John Carlos made saying that he allowed Smith to win the race.
ddenuci 3 years ago
but he came third?- did he let peter norman (a white guy), come second too?...what a lovely gesture.
bnewman227 3 years ago
I'm glad the ESPy awards cleared this myth-up. People, had been trying to pull them aways, but Sunday night they proclaimed that they would always be close!
quetou 3 years ago
John Carlos was the best sprinter in the world, but he really blew this race. He broke stride, form, rythmn, concentration, everything and then quit near the end and let the Aussie beat his ass for second.
bondurango 3 years ago
3nd place John Carlos is now saying he let Mr Smith win..
driftingsolo 3 years ago 3
This is how gossip starts, Where do you see John Carlos saying that?? No prove, no videos. Just he says, she says, they say.
RubiconTSL 3 years ago 3
Carlos had stated this in many interviews. He says that he turned and was saying to Tommie ''if you want this gold medal come and get it'' basically it was Carlos saying he literally gave Smith the win. Now Carlos did run 19.92 at US Olympic Trials final and Smith was like 3m behind, but in Mexico City Smith was a different animal and was clearly in 19.7 shape judging from how he ran in the final, and can't see Carlos beating him.
bossofalltime 3 years ago
BEautiful!
ilovejesuschristever 3 years ago
The world is diverse and you're a racist.
imposs1234 3 years ago 5
The house is white but the power is BLAAACK!
gab1234 4 years ago