These are designed as training weapons/tools only, not weapons. If used for what they are intended for (bokken on bokken, or bokken on other training weapon/tool) they should last years. Our dojo has had 6 of these for about 3 years, before this we used oak and purple heart bokkens... We only buy the cold steel ones now because we are tired of pulling out splinters and refinishing bokkens. They work great and can take a beating, even againg bo and jo staffs.
@AzureFlameGod1986 I have four(different) ones-they are all excellent(after some rebalancing) and an excellent buy for anyone more interested in functionality than tradition.
Lol... Who'd Use A Cold Steel To Practice?... U Wanna cause more injuries to ur opponent at practice?... In Japan For centuries now bokken has always been made with wood... so why change the tradision of it or even the originality?.....bokkens are ment and intended for practice use... so keep it that way...
@NelsonPesadelo because martial artists have self control and wont smash opponents faces in? and how about because the plastic is stronger, requires less care, doesn't splinter and wont snap in half.
@paleknight1 I wouldn't say that. Sure it's a poor weapon when facing an actual katana, but you have the remember the intended purpose of a bokken, which is purely as a practice weapon. I'd say it serves it's purpose well :)
The Cold Steel Bokken you cut with the Katana, is it the same Bokken you guys used against the sword and ended splintered or did you use a new one? I´m asuming you did use a new one, and that only goes to show. Against a real katana a Bokken should be made from wood. Against ANY other weapon the Cold Steel option is better. Personally I will get myself a Cold Steel Bokken. Thank you very much for the heads up though.
@DKassaian1219 Personally for self defense, i would go with the wooden one. The wood is slightly heavier than the polypropolene, thus more offensive force. and against anything short of a baseball bat or metal pipe it provides the superior protection. even in the case of it breaking you still have a usable weapon, only it becomes a stabbing weapon, the broken end has quite a nasty point on it (my bokken broke just like his, the tip busted off leaving two pieces with very pointy ends)
The the multiple layers of the wood obviously compress and absorb more energy from the blade where as the polymer molecules effectively act like butter.
@1misanthropist Myamoto Musashi fought many real battles with a bokken to include against legendary Nodachi swordmaster Sasaki Kojiro..but I agree with your comment,"Use the right tool for the right job". Well said.
the results of this were kind of obvious to me. with blunt force the cold steel works extremely well and blunt force is the impact that's generated in bokken sparring. it's not invincible but it's damn better at resistance than the regular wood. if someone really wants to go toe to toe with a bokken against a sharpened katanna is a stupid move, no matter which type of bokken it is.
@ind20000 yes i did but if ur sparing like should i dont think anyones goin to pull out a sword and since its a plastic of course it goin to cut in half easy the reason its more durible is because it bends but not to much wood is stiff
Of couse u cant have a bokken up to a real sword but the cold steel bokken is the best ive tested and spared with it and plus they hav diffrent kinds of bokkens i suggest the o'bokken for beginners
Sooo what is the regular wood bokken made of ? Why dont you buy a hikoria bokken (japanise oak if I'm not mistaken) and try the test again :D and for the end of the clip where your cold steel bokken is cut in half ... well ... this is why the japanise use wood ^^ they know that it can be used as a substitute for a katana if a fight with katana's does occurs :]
Well personally I Don't care If you HAVE another sword I'm all about dodging Instead of trying to block a sword. It's just down right dangerous In a real fight to try to "Block" And second, any pole type weapon (Wood ,Poly-Bokken,) Won't really stand up to a sword. you have to face a sword with a steel or Iron weapon. or something ranged. I Offer this a good, healthy critisism for the younger Viewers and the people that do not know better. Much love, godbless, and take care all.
@SonOfFumfr all i can say is if your up against someone with a sword and you have either a metal pole or wood try and deflect the blade by trying to tilt your pole when you feel the contact becuase it might slide off and give you 1 second to return a blow to his jaw and have him picking his teeth up
I've had mine for a few days now and have sparred against a friend with a wooden bokken, and from the 50+ dents in his, its pretty clear which bokken stands the test of durability. But what I want to know is if anyone knows of a way to buff out the sparring scuffs in my CS Bokken???
great job. I'll tell you my cold steel escrima stick also did not live up to it's claime....... when going up against a regular sparing sesion with a wooden iron wood stick . my cold steel just cut 1\3 of the way in 2 peaces.
its a training sword moron... no one is going to attack you with a live blade in kendo... of course it got chopped in half, because its polypropelene, and you attacked at a different angle...
Wood has a more rigid and unpredictable structure than cast poly, with plastic the density is equal throughout whereas wood varies in hardness making it harder to cut through. But at the same time having consistent density allows it to distribute impact better than wood. So it really depends on what you plan to use it for.
@AnnihilatorCZ assuming you are only going to be using it in appropriate circumstances (fighting with other bokkens, practice swings). the cold steel bokken will probably last you alot longer than a regular wooden bokken as wooden ones as shown will wear alot easier, also from experience with both i have to say i prefered the cold steel one as it hits better. the one thing i would say is that the cold steel bokken has little grip on the handle so you should probably put tape or something on it.
I really don't undestand why it would be such a problem for the cold steel bokken to have bruises. The japanese sword fighting system, be it aikido or ken-jutsu is or any other, is meant to draw blood via cutting, not chopping, which requires nothing more then a quick, non-forcefull swing to the body and drawing the sword towards yourself. When sparring the coldsteel bokken shouldn't damage if the sparring is done "correctly". Even a real katana would break, if let's say, a block is done incorr.
Your technique with the bokken is not good at all. You use the force of your body to swing it forward, while you should actually use your bottom hand to add speed, while using the upper hand (while holding the bokken) to coordinate your strike.
The bokken should also always be situated in front of your body, meaning your entire body moves with the bokken when you attack/ defend. If you just turn your upper body, you'll have way less force and speed behind your attack.
@VaanTractor You use everything, body, hand torque, even your little pinkie on your left hand.
It was a fair test in my opinion, if someone swung a machete (common Scottish thug weapon) at me I would want a good hardwood bokken to smack it out of their hands.
I've never used a cold steel bokken, but the flex is a downer for me, katana shouldn't flex, neither should a katana imitation.
Second test is slightly distorted since the same bokken from the first test were used, but the wooden one only had to endure one strike against the star dropper(which broke of the top section), whereas the poly one took 3 consecutive hits near the mid-section(which pretty much ruined the "blade's" integrity for the next test).
@Tendrax Except that we aren't talking about a few dings dings near the tip, but rather three sizable holes smack dab in the middle of the blade. That's structurally weakening equivalent to sawing through half of the wooden bokken. Of course it makes any subsequent cutting attempts much easier, since you have to cut through much less material. Basic physics.
I have a bokuto I got from amazon.com for around $20 that has yet to break. Sure its dry towards the tip and a little bit of wood has splintered off, but it still hasnt broke. Ive used it full contact against other wooden swords, bundles of sticks and tree trunks...also the occasional car tire, but that isnt really a test of durability. I think if your bokuto is snapping like that, its a poor quality wood. Either that or I got a heck of a deal.
Its not Total junk, its high quality junk... there is a difference.
From what i saw the Cold steel bokken should be better as long as you are smart enough to not use it in a fight against a Real sword. And anyone who would use a bokken against a real sword either doesn't have a real sword, or should not be allowed to own a real sword.
@VaSoapman Your missing the point. im not advocating getting into ANY sword fight. Plastic bokken are JUNK. Period. no for thi9s reason or that .. They are Junk. this is NOT what a wooden trianing weapon shold be. Frankly, anyone who would get in a sword fight should be pput in JAIL before they can hurt themselfs or anyone else. Come up against ME w a sword and i would shoot your ass. Again, not the point. PLASTIC BOKKEN=JUNK
@IKEEMBLEM, and thats why you go with the stronger bokken (wooden like type). Steel seems strong by outer shells but doesn't have like the real katana that been forged. even thou cold steel seem perfect against melee weapons, but not sharp ones. Its same thing like the armor (I quote this from old knights time) a defense should have weak point, same thing as weak point for armor, weapons and person ( depend person stats is.).
lol i have been using these bokkens for like 4 years, they are tough as nails haha but i actually have boke it it snapped at about 6 inches from the tip of the bokken. haha i hit a tree, not the smartest move but it was a worthy adversary hahah
Bokken are for training only. Seriously. Anyone suggesting a wooden one is better because in a fight it will hold up better is retarded.
I guess with hindsight the results are totally predictable. The plastic Polypropelene bokken is far harder and far more flexible than a straight wooden bokken. However when it comes to a lateral cut, the density of the wood really stops a cutting edge better. The dense plastic has no chance.
As a tool for hitting other bokken? The cold steel is more durable.
But bear in mind, even Musashi fought his last several duels with a bokken (against live steel) and won. The classical technique was never to block (especially directly against the edge of the blade) - it was to parry and deflect. So yes, you can fight a duel with a bokken and still win - depends on your skill I suppose.
@Rafroo in OUR time, the bokken is cheaper, and not as well made, and even worse for katana, but in modern time, in a brawl, i think the gun would win
this just shows how well following traditional bokken can be better rather than using bokken made out of man-made material.
if you were against a sharp object you want a wooden one, which most people can be against a sharp object these days ie. a knife and if somone were to come at you with a pole youd want the cold steel ^_^
A knife isn't cutting through a Cold Steel bokken. An extremely nice katana would.. but who carries those around? Common weapons for thugs are baseball bats, crowbars, knifes, etc. A cold steel bokken will easily knock a knife outta anyones hand without snapping.
@xorganizationxvx a complete psycopath would probably attack someone with a sword but those are few and far. so yea I guess a bokken either the traditional or the polypropelene would make a good defense against bats and knives
@malevolenceXXXensues well, no because you cant carry bokkens around in public so its useless unless they attack in your home and at that point, real katana or fire arms? i never liked CS plastic composite stuff, oak bokken for me all the way
@malevolenceXXXensues this thing is really expensive for a bokken,man you actually CAN get a differentially hardened katana at its price with tax, full tang, itll work better than this for home defense : ( dont buy this plastic crap dude, u can get much better for the price
@xorganizationxvx no need for an extremely nice katana, my paul chen practical plus cut through right the way >..>" sad.... now i am looking for a new solid wood one
@xorganizationxvx actually it really depends on what knife the thug was carrying like if he was carrying a black bear classic it would not slip out of a mans hands due to the sub hilt same with a OSI or OSS any whey most of the cold steel knifes are very hard to take out of someone's hands
@Kurowaltsu2 Haha, true about the guns. But i think a Bokken was his choice due to the fact that it's not as devastating as a gun or a sword. We live in a time of lawyers.
@xorganizationxvx You left out guns, never knew a "thug" that didnt arm himself with a firearm.. if you carry one a bokken with you for protection augment it with a glock 45.. lol
Maybe splinters with the wooden bokken, but I've fought with and broke a few bokken in my day, and I'll tell you it is unrealistic to assume that one would use protective gear for a test like this.
Sure, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Anyone doing destructive tests on an object with any force or velocity risks serious injury (particularly eye). The whole point of the destructive test is to find out at which point the object is "destroyed". That could mean splintering, snapping, shattering, etc. of either the object or the target. Nobody expects to get injured, but you sure welcome it more without protective equipment (like safety glasses).
I can see what you're saying, but just to split hairs, with or without protective gear, no one "welcomes" damage, they're just at risk of in being inflicted upon them. ;-)
I can see what you're saying, better safe than sorry.
You can never be too safe, I understand ( You should see me geared up when I put on my belt sander. ;-) )
These are designed as training weapons/tools only, not weapons. If used for what they are intended for (bokken on bokken, or bokken on other training weapon/tool) they should last years. Our dojo has had 6 of these for about 3 years, before this we used oak and purple heart bokkens... We only buy the cold steel ones now because we are tired of pulling out splinters and refinishing bokkens. They work great and can take a beating, even againg bo and jo staffs.
acbvenom81 4 days ago
My bokken broke a peice of after hitting 2 water bottles.... But it hasn't broken any further. I guess I got a defective one or something.
Deoxus5023 6 days ago
Your kinda swinging it like a bat
TheMuffinMan8080 1 month ago
is cold steel a type of metal?
2100Wrath 2 months ago
@2100Wrath "The Polypropelene Bokken by Cold Steel is put through a series of side by side tests"
Cold steel is a maker, Polypropelene is the material.
Pottan23 1 month ago
@2100Wrath no its a company
lostwindreaper 2 weeks ago
Cut resistant, not giant katana chop resistant
onlyashadow1121 2 months ago 3
i rather have the sword
LeonGundam 2 months ago
What is your bokken made of?
Mine is made of redwood, so it's reallyyyy durable.
darrthvader123 3 months ago
@darrthvader123 "High Grade Polypropilene"
NekoyX 3 days ago
I have one of these. It works great. :D
AzureFlameGod1986 3 months ago
@AzureFlameGod1986 I have four(different) ones-they are all excellent(after some rebalancing) and an excellent buy for anyone more interested in functionality than tradition.
squidlybytes 3 months ago
The techno porn music demand a stronger "wood" be used.
Chicagotarsier 3 months ago 11
Lol... Who'd Use A Cold Steel To Practice?... U Wanna cause more injuries to ur opponent at practice?... In Japan For centuries now bokken has always been made with wood... so why change the tradision of it or even the originality?.....bokkens are ment and intended for practice use... so keep it that way...
NelsonPesadelo 4 months ago
@NelsonPesadelo because martial artists have self control and wont smash opponents faces in? and how about because the plastic is stronger, requires less care, doesn't splinter and wont snap in half.
lewismurray1 3 months ago
@NelsonPesadelo do you know what you're talking about? the cold steel bokken is a practice weapon.
samstoner06 3 months ago
Holy crp cold steel are slacking in quality!
paleknight1 5 months ago
@paleknight1 I wouldn't say that. Sure it's a poor weapon when facing an actual katana, but you have the remember the intended purpose of a bokken, which is purely as a practice weapon. I'd say it serves it's purpose well :)
DukeOfChains 4 months ago
Oh my...
joshster182 5 months ago
prooves the regular wooden bokken is far superiour if it stood up to a katana and mine has lasted years
yesimfromengland 5 months ago
The Cold Steel Bokken you cut with the Katana, is it the same Bokken you guys used against the sword and ended splintered or did you use a new one? I´m asuming you did use a new one, and that only goes to show. Against a real katana a Bokken should be made from wood. Against ANY other weapon the Cold Steel option is better. Personally I will get myself a Cold Steel Bokken. Thank you very much for the heads up though.
Guadecio 5 months ago
Can you please tell me what´s the meaning of this test? The Bokken is for Samurai Katana training ONLY, not to smash anyone´s head...Jesus!
pinguim14 6 months ago
@pinguim14 He's testing the durability of the two different types of bokken, not their damage dealing potential.
however the damage dealing ability of these things as blunt weapons is still nothing to laugh at
spartanfury1 5 months ago
It's a katana it can cut through a tank
dudearlo 6 months ago
ok as a self defense weapon, which would you recommend out of the 2?
DKassaian1219 6 months ago
@DKassaian1219 Personally for self defense, i would go with the wooden one. The wood is slightly heavier than the polypropolene, thus more offensive force. and against anything short of a baseball bat or metal pipe it provides the superior protection. even in the case of it breaking you still have a usable weapon, only it becomes a stabbing weapon, the broken end has quite a nasty point on it (my bokken broke just like his, the tip busted off leaving two pieces with very pointy ends)
spartanfury1 5 months ago
The the multiple layers of the wood obviously compress and absorb more energy from the blade where as the polymer molecules effectively act like butter.
Dogbiteify 6 months ago
A bokken isn't made for real battle. So I say it did it's job better than the wood one. Use the right tool for the right job.
1misanthropist 6 months ago 7
@1misanthropist Myamoto Musashi fought many real battles with a bokken to include against legendary Nodachi swordmaster Sasaki Kojiro..but I agree with your comment,"Use the right tool for the right job". Well said.
ninjamaster73 3 months ago
who sword fights its 2011 who cares
beefstew78 6 months ago
the results of this were kind of obvious to me. with blunt force the cold steel works extremely well and blunt force is the impact that's generated in bokken sparring. it's not invincible but it's damn better at resistance than the regular wood. if someone really wants to go toe to toe with a bokken against a sharpened katanna is a stupid move, no matter which type of bokken it is.
mitchnesbitt 7 months ago
@mitchnesbitt Miyamoto Musashi used a bokken for most of his life, even against Sasaki Kojiro. Was he an idiot?
HairofSteel555 6 months ago
@HairofSteel555 actually he used a carved boat oar, not a bokken. different types of wood are used for oars than for bokken.
mitchnesbitt 6 months ago
@ind20000 yes i did but if ur sparing like should i dont think anyones goin to pull out a sword and since its a plastic of course it goin to cut in half easy the reason its more durible is because it bends but not to much wood is stiff
viewer123abc 8 months ago
XD
RadicalPresident 8 months ago
Of couse u cant have a bokken up to a real sword but the cold steel bokken is the best ive tested and spared with it and plus they hav diffrent kinds of bokkens i suggest the o'bokken for beginners
viewer123abc 8 months ago
@viewer123abc did you watch to the end of the video?
ind20000 8 months ago
Sooo what is the regular wood bokken made of ? Why dont you buy a hikoria bokken (japanise oak if I'm not mistaken) and try the test again :D and for the end of the clip where your cold steel bokken is cut in half ... well ... this is why the japanise use wood ^^ they know that it can be used as a substitute for a katana if a fight with katana's does occurs :]
Windflowngng 8 months ago
Well personally I Don't care If you HAVE another sword I'm all about dodging Instead of trying to block a sword. It's just down right dangerous In a real fight to try to "Block" And second, any pole type weapon (Wood ,Poly-Bokken,) Won't really stand up to a sword. you have to face a sword with a steel or Iron weapon. or something ranged. I Offer this a good, healthy critisism for the younger Viewers and the people that do not know better. Much love, godbless, and take care all.
Marko~
SonOfFumfr 10 months ago
@SonOfFumfr all i can say is if your up against someone with a sword and you have either a metal pole or wood try and deflect the blade by trying to tilt your pole when you feel the contact becuase it might slide off and give you 1 second to return a blow to his jaw and have him picking his teeth up
lukemc1878 8 months ago
I've had mine for a few days now and have sparred against a friend with a wooden bokken, and from the 50+ dents in his, its pretty clear which bokken stands the test of durability. But what I want to know is if anyone knows of a way to buff out the sparring scuffs in my CS Bokken???
bladedaces 10 months ago
Cold Steel Bokken is only for training and not to destroy things or anything -.-' You can train with it to fight with a real samurai sword
DragonWolfHeart 11 months ago
wood has grain plastic doesn't get it
loosifur 1 year ago
its made from metal/steel..?
brotheryusuf1 1 year ago
great job. I'll tell you my cold steel escrima stick also did not live up to it's claime....... when going up against a regular sparing sesion with a wooden iron wood stick . my cold steel just cut 1\3 of the way in 2 peaces.
teyacapan 1 year ago
its a training sword moron... no one is going to attack you with a live blade in kendo... of course it got chopped in half, because its polypropelene, and you attacked at a different angle...
stranglechord 1 year ago
@stranglechord Cold Steel specifically bills it as cut resistant. Clearly it's not. That was the point, not that it actually matters.
Tendrax 1 year ago
Wood has a more rigid and unpredictable structure than cast poly, with plastic the density is equal throughout whereas wood varies in hardness making it harder to cut through. But at the same time having consistent density allows it to distribute impact better than wood. So it really depends on what you plan to use it for.
OtakuWulf 1 year ago
A simple question-should I get it for christmast? I would use it to train fighting with my brother and during ninjutsu training.
AnnihilatorCZ 1 year ago
@AnnihilatorCZ assuming you are only going to be using it in appropriate circumstances (fighting with other bokkens, practice swings). the cold steel bokken will probably last you alot longer than a regular wooden bokken as wooden ones as shown will wear alot easier, also from experience with both i have to say i prefered the cold steel one as it hits better. the one thing i would say is that the cold steel bokken has little grip on the handle so you should probably put tape or something on it.
minihutchi 1 year ago
I really don't undestand why it would be such a problem for the cold steel bokken to have bruises. The japanese sword fighting system, be it aikido or ken-jutsu is or any other, is meant to draw blood via cutting, not chopping, which requires nothing more then a quick, non-forcefull swing to the body and drawing the sword towards yourself. When sparring the coldsteel bokken shouldn't damage if the sparring is done "correctly". Even a real katana would break, if let's say, a block is done incorr.
Anubisspeicial 1 year ago
i think i have that
015uio 1 year ago
whats this music from??
iHiTMaN69 1 year ago
Your technique with the bokken is not good at all. You use the force of your body to swing it forward, while you should actually use your bottom hand to add speed, while using the upper hand (while holding the bokken) to coordinate your strike.
The bokken should also always be situated in front of your body, meaning your entire body moves with the bokken when you attack/ defend. If you just turn your upper body, you'll have way less force and speed behind your attack.
VaanTractor 1 year ago
@VaanTractor Im pretty sure hes just testing durability.
Sinex69 1 year ago
@VaanTractor You use everything, body, hand torque, even your little pinkie on your left hand.
It was a fair test in my opinion, if someone swung a machete (common Scottish thug weapon) at me I would want a good hardwood bokken to smack it out of their hands.
I've never used a cold steel bokken, but the flex is a downer for me, katana shouldn't flex, neither should a katana imitation.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
ur hitting fucking metal
kacy3693 1 year ago
Second test is slightly distorted since the same bokken from the first test were used, but the wooden one only had to endure one strike against the star dropper(which broke of the top section), whereas the poly one took 3 consecutive hits near the mid-section(which pretty much ruined the "blade's" integrity for the next test).
xFallenAngel 1 year ago
@xFallenAngel It didn't snap when he hit it with the katana, he cleaved it right in two. Any dings near the tip are irrelevant.
Tendrax 1 year ago
@Tendrax Except that we aren't talking about a few dings dings near the tip, but rather three sizable holes smack dab in the middle of the blade. That's structurally weakening equivalent to sawing through half of the wooden bokken. Of course it makes any subsequent cutting attempts much easier, since you have to cut through much less material. Basic physics.
xFallenAngel 1 year ago
try striking with the middle of the bokken were it is the strongest and were there is more control
AnimeRooky 1 year ago
Bokken are pratice sword , nothing more ...
hitachi088 1 year ago
@hitachi088
yeah,but i like 'em!
thingman100 1 year ago
no sabes usar una espada la espada no deve controlar al guerrero ni el guerrero a la espada ya que se tienen que hacer uno
grossoerectus 1 year ago
I guess I won't piss off my neighborhood Yakuza after getting the bokken then....
Rebelcommander6 1 year ago
I have a bokuto I got from amazon.com for around $20 that has yet to break. Sure its dry towards the tip and a little bit of wood has splintered off, but it still hasnt broke. Ive used it full contact against other wooden swords, bundles of sticks and tree trunks...also the occasional car tire, but that isnt really a test of durability. I think if your bokuto is snapping like that, its a poor quality wood. Either that or I got a heck of a deal.
LotusDragon09 1 year ago
Ive have been wanting to see this very test since I first heard of the cold steel plastic bokken.
THANKSSOMUCH!
D313370r 1 year ago
Thanks for making this video, it really helped me decide whether or not to buy the cold steel O bokken
qwerty474 1 year ago
Plastic Bokken = junk. If your serious get or make yourself a Hickory Bokken.
DmakAttack 1 year ago
@DmakAttack
Its not Total junk, its high quality junk... there is a difference.
From what i saw the Cold steel bokken should be better as long as you are smart enough to not use it in a fight against a Real sword. And anyone who would use a bokken against a real sword either doesn't have a real sword, or should not be allowed to own a real sword.
VaSoapman 1 year ago
@VaSoapman Your missing the point. im not advocating getting into ANY sword fight. Plastic bokken are JUNK. Period. no for thi9s reason or that .. They are Junk. this is NOT what a wooden trianing weapon shold be. Frankly, anyone who would get in a sword fight should be pput in JAIL before they can hurt themselfs or anyone else. Come up against ME w a sword and i would shoot your ass. Again, not the point. PLASTIC BOKKEN=JUNK
DmakAttack 1 year ago
@DmakAttack
But its Super plastic... shouldn't that make it Super junk?
Then again Super junk to you is still just junk to you.
But thats not the point, Sword fighting is Fun!
Even if you are sword fighting with junk!
VaSoapman 1 year ago
@VaSoapman Musashi carried a bokken against real swords...
skykid 1 year ago
@skykid
Yeah, but Musashi also cheated and Threw knifes at people before beating them with a stick. XD
VaSoapman 1 year ago
very good video JAJAJAJJAJ!
OSS
shodo2007 1 year ago
I'd still go for the traditional wooden bokken- love the feel of wood and the sound of it as it fends off an incoming attack.
iamyodaok 1 year ago
I cried cause i laughed so hard at the cold steel cut test, the oh my at the end..priceless.
IKEEMBLEM 1 year ago 18
@IKEEMBLEM, and thats why you go with the stronger bokken (wooden like type). Steel seems strong by outer shells but doesn't have like the real katana that been forged. even thou cold steel seem perfect against melee weapons, but not sharp ones. Its same thing like the armor (I quote this from old knights time) a defense should have weak point, same thing as weak point for armor, weapons and person ( depend person stats is.).
TheBastered 1 year ago
lol i have been using these bokkens for like 4 years, they are tough as nails haha but i actually have boke it it snapped at about 6 inches from the tip of the bokken. haha i hit a tree, not the smartest move but it was a worthy adversary hahah
pirateboy12 2 years ago
Well I learned something new.
knightdrako 2 years ago
Bokken are for training only. Seriously. Anyone suggesting a wooden one is better because in a fight it will hold up better is retarded.
I guess with hindsight the results are totally predictable. The plastic Polypropelene bokken is far harder and far more flexible than a straight wooden bokken. However when it comes to a lateral cut, the density of the wood really stops a cutting edge better. The dense plastic has no chance.
As a tool for hitting other bokken? The cold steel is more durable.
UselessRobotToy 2 years ago
But bear in mind, even Musashi fought his last several duels with a bokken (against live steel) and won. The classical technique was never to block (especially directly against the edge of the blade) - it was to parry and deflect. So yes, you can fight a duel with a bokken and still win - depends on your skill I suppose.
apcasrroma 2 years ago
Anyway, who will use a bokken vs a katana? o.o... I mean in OUR time
Rafroo 1 year ago
who will use anything vs a katana, in our time, last time I checked actual duels with sharp swords is virtually non-existent in this day and age...
WolfgangNightshadow 1 year ago
@Rafroo in OUR time, the bokken is cheaper, and not as well made, and even worse for katana, but in modern time, in a brawl, i think the gun would win
ShadowSword32 1 year ago
Looks like you've found yourself a cool alternative to tatami!
0ldSandwich 2 years ago
Excellent buyer's video. And a good testiment to your sword you used to test against a blade. Wow, that cold steel was cut like it was Tatami.
KitZunekaze 2 years ago
this just shows how well following traditional bokken can be better rather than using bokken made out of man-made material.
if you were against a sharp object you want a wooden one, which most people can be against a sharp object these days ie. a knife and if somone were to come at you with a pole youd want the cold steel ^_^
Gin132456 2 years ago
A knife isn't cutting through a Cold Steel bokken. An extremely nice katana would.. but who carries those around? Common weapons for thugs are baseball bats, crowbars, knifes, etc. A cold steel bokken will easily knock a knife outta anyones hand without snapping.
xorganizationxvx 2 years ago 24
@xorganizationxvx cold steel makes polypropelene baseball bats now if that would make you happy
stranglechord 1 year ago
@xorganizationxvx a complete psycopath would probably attack someone with a sword but those are few and far. so yea I guess a bokken either the traditional or the polypropelene would make a good defense against bats and knives
malevolenceXXXensues 1 year ago
@malevolenceXXXensues well, no because you cant carry bokkens around in public so its useless unless they attack in your home and at that point, real katana or fire arms? i never liked CS plastic composite stuff, oak bokken for me all the way
Taud 1 year ago
@Taud exactly what I meant, home defense just in case you can't afford the real thing
malevolenceXXXensues 1 year ago
@malevolenceXXXensues this thing is really expensive for a bokken,man you actually CAN get a differentially hardened katana at its price with tax, full tang, itll work better than this for home defense : ( dont buy this plastic crap dude, u can get much better for the price
Taud 1 year ago
@Taud that is quite a bit of money. and I wasn't planning to
malevolenceXXXensues 1 year ago
@Taud yh same bro, i got an oak bokken and love that
brotheryusuf1 1 year ago
@brotheryusuf1 CS bokken is plastic composite , i agree i still luv the oak one more
Taud 1 year ago
@xorganizationxvx no need for an extremely nice katana, my paul chen practical plus cut through right the way >..>" sad.... now i am looking for a new solid wood one
aesops52220 1 year ago
@xorganizationxvx
well, some yakuza still carry katana and wakazashi, but still a really good point, i'd take steel over wood any day.
stanthema 1 year ago
@xorganizationxvx actually it really depends on what knife the thug was carrying like if he was carrying a black bear classic it would not slip out of a mans hands due to the sub hilt same with a OSI or OSS any whey most of the cold steel knifes are very hard to take out of someone's hands
crazybeverboi 9 months ago
@crazybeverboi Well, good luck wielding a knife with a broken hand.
xorganizationxvx 9 months ago
@xorganizationxvx why would you be carrying a boken around to fight thugs ? if your gonna carry something long and sword shaped carry a sword. xP
common weapon for thugs here in michigan is a gun.
Kurowaltsu2 7 months ago
@Kurowaltsu2 Haha, true about the guns. But i think a Bokken was his choice due to the fact that it's not as devastating as a gun or a sword. We live in a time of lawyers.
Charge183IF 7 months ago
@xorganizationxvx and your carrying a fullsized bokken around for self defense why?
tules4war 6 months ago
@tules4war why not?
thecontemptuous 6 months ago
@xorganizationxvx You left out guns, never knew a "thug" that didnt arm himself with a firearm.. if you carry one a bokken with you for protection augment it with a glock 45.. lol
Klaus1386 5 months ago
@xorganizationxvx ...um...who carries a boken around for that matter
just saying
alex666493 4 months ago
polypropelene, I never really thought of using that for a weapon.
But looks like it does good for training purposes, probably easily marked sort of like wax is it?
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
yeah but still it held up way better than the regular wood in heavy holy shit impact tests which is what they're used for n shit n stuff k bai ^-^ :3
FatGuyWithAKatana 2 years ago
Damn.... I hope the hand and a half trainer stands up better to edged weapons.
Damienx247 2 years ago
wow... not too nice are they ah well thx for the upload
Thetempestangel 2 years ago
Still don't know how you do those tests without protective wear or gloves...
apcasrroma 2 years ago
@apcasrroma
These were bokken, not steel.
Maybe splinters with the wooden bokken, but I've fought with and broke a few bokken in my day, and I'll tell you it is unrealistic to assume that one would use protective gear for a test like this.
JesusFuckingChrist84 2 years ago
Sure, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Anyone doing destructive tests on an object with any force or velocity risks serious injury (particularly eye). The whole point of the destructive test is to find out at which point the object is "destroyed". That could mean splintering, snapping, shattering, etc. of either the object or the target. Nobody expects to get injured, but you sure welcome it more without protective equipment (like safety glasses).
apcasrroma 2 years ago
@apcasrroma
I can see what you're saying, but just to split hairs, with or without protective gear, no one "welcomes" damage, they're just at risk of in being inflicted upon them. ;-)
I can see what you're saying, better safe than sorry.
You can never be too safe, I understand ( You should see me geared up when I put on my belt sander. ;-) )
JesusFuckingChrist84 2 years ago
So you understand why it still boggles me that he doesn't wear protective eyewear or something when he does these tests...:)
I'm right there with you with protective wear and power tools...had my fair share of near disasters...
apcasrroma 2 years ago
I usually even use gloves when I operate a belt sander, my fingers have grazed the 120 grit belts before, and it'll hurt.
I did it once without gloves, but thankfully it was a slack belt and pretty slick.
I am extremely protective of my eyes, no matter what I do, if it involves power tools, I use goggles.
JesusFuckingChrist84 2 years ago
nice video. Hoping to see more from you in the future.
Phoenix153 2 years ago
amazing
Misiek2106 2 years ago