@xXsakkelaoXx there is no proof for it. there is proof on the contrary, though.
i know it wasnt the entire world. even though native americans and pretty much every culture has a flood story, there has to be another explaination bc science has proven it has not happened. we can always say scientists are liars, but truth is we just go with belief either way we think . science or religion
@Rachulie no, its how you interpret the proof, like seafossils on the top of mount everest, my belief is that movements in the earths crust is not enough to make the himmalayas f.eks so how did they get there?
I think the problem with debating against evolution as being an extreme chance is that the fact is, time is relative and over how ever many years. These processes would be occurring and would have infinite time to run through over and over, unobserved. Eventually arriviving at the combination needed for life.
I'm a Christian by the way, I'm not sure where I fall on the creation/evolution debate though. But if you are going to have an argument, I think it should at least be thorough.
Why do creationists always relate organic things to inorganic things and say they are alike? One is natural, one is man-made. I do not get how they get away with it.
@HeavyStone86 Organic Chemistry is the study of molecules with CARBON. Most of the complex things in this world are made of carbon. Life is carbon based. Amino acids can be found in Outer Space, crationists don't understand that the building blocks of life are common and self assemble. No miracles needed.
I've heard the rubik cube analogy before, but the cocyx and the appendix is an evolutionary remnant. But there again ..... we are into criticizing evolution again without evidence for a story written over 4000 years ago. And remember there was a jail fever in Oxford in the 16th century and guess who got the blame? Roman Catholics because you know they sacrifice Christ every day.
While I disagree with Dr. Weiland, he presents his argument MUCH better than loons like Hovind, Comfort, et al. It's a shame idiots like them have so many people rallying behind them.
This guy is tripping over himself from the beginning. Ha ha. He puts forward 'an uncreated intelligence which by definition is supernatural' then dismisses aliens because you'd have to ask 'where those aliens created or not?' ha ha ha. What about supernatural aliens?? I mean if you are going to suspend the natural order to allow for a creator, then perhaps you could do the same for aliens..
He's saying that there is no point in arguing whether life came from aliens because then we'd just start saying 'well were the aliens created or did they evolve?' Mentioning aliens is just putting off the debate between creation and science. I'm quite enjoying his argument so far, I've been watching too many whack job creationists like that Stein guy and VenomfangX... refreshing to hear a rational argument.
what he's saying is that cars look the same because people designed them based on one design and that animals with convergent evolutionary traits can also be used to argue that one designer made them all.
yeah true, you have to admit that this guy is a breath of fresh air compared to the morons that are out there though. look at people like venomfangx and ray comfort, seriously degenerate people. At least Carl doesn't make me want to throw my computer screen out the window.
What about the Nylon bacteria! That evolved out of no where. Infact, where did virus come from? like AIDS, flu, cold,birdflu, infact bird flu evolved into a human threat, AIDS may have evolved out of the ground!
'gods' don't make bacteria or virus or frogs and other species change, people should not think short time, just because you can't see it changing dosen't mean it is not, ''god'' is only a SPEED apllication.
Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Aids, some of those are man made...try and research this ...they where man made....and again if its not observable and testable is not scientific...what is the difference between something not happening and something that you don't see happening because supposedly it takes billions of years and you can't be there....no difference...it falls in to a belief...so stop being foolish and wake up...
Curious then that most evolution texts spend time with it. This is a futile attempt to divorce an embarrassingly speculative field of science fantasy.
im still trying to figure out if the flood was only where noah was or in the ENTIRE world.
Rachulie 7 months ago
@Rachulie entire world, as it says in the bible and there is loads of proof for :)
xXsakkelaoXx 2 months ago
@xXsakkelaoXx there is no proof for it. there is proof on the contrary, though.
i know it wasnt the entire world. even though native americans and pretty much every culture has a flood story, there has to be another explaination bc science has proven it has not happened. we can always say scientists are liars, but truth is we just go with belief either way we think . science or religion
Rachulie 2 months ago
@Rachulie no, its how you interpret the proof, like seafossils on the top of mount everest, my belief is that movements in the earths crust is not enough to make the himmalayas f.eks so how did they get there?
xXsakkelaoXx 2 months ago
I think the problem with debating against evolution as being an extreme chance is that the fact is, time is relative and over how ever many years. These processes would be occurring and would have infinite time to run through over and over, unobserved. Eventually arriviving at the combination needed for life.
I'm a Christian by the way, I'm not sure where I fall on the creation/evolution debate though. But if you are going to have an argument, I think it should at least be thorough.
mahilley 7 months ago
Why do creationists always relate organic things to inorganic things and say they are alike? One is natural, one is man-made. I do not get how they get away with it.
HeavyStone86 1 year ago
@HeavyStone86 Organic Chemistry is the study of molecules with CARBON. Most of the complex things in this world are made of carbon. Life is carbon based. Amino acids can be found in Outer Space, crationists don't understand that the building blocks of life are common and self assemble. No miracles needed.
gregrutz 10 months ago
I've heard the rubik cube analogy before, but the cocyx and the appendix is an evolutionary remnant. But there again ..... we are into criticizing evolution again without evidence for a story written over 4000 years ago. And remember there was a jail fever in Oxford in the 16th century and guess who got the blame? Roman Catholics because you know they sacrifice Christ every day.
modomnoc1 1 year ago
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modomnoc1 1 year ago
Geology shows there was no flood. Look at the evidence.
It shows the earth is millions of years old too.
Thanks for proving we aren't frogs, even though we are both tetrapods. [common ancestor]
Experiment>> dig up some feathered dinosaur and study them. Find out which one has more information, ones with feathers or ones without.
Anyone who studies science knows who won, those who are brainwashed think creation [by allah?] won.
gregrutz 1 year ago
While I disagree with Dr. Weiland, he presents his argument MUCH better than loons like Hovind, Comfort, et al. It's a shame idiots like them have so many people rallying behind them.
opmike343 1 year ago
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Does scientific evidence support a 10,000 year old earth created in 7 (actually 6) literal days. The answer is a resounding NO.
It in fact proves the earth is old.
Scientists don't say anything came from nothing. Creationist say 'poof' from nothing.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Loooooooooooved it genuinely as know GOD WAS, IS, N EVER WILL BE! HE IS AWESOME!!! Can't wait to hear the next part!:D
ELITAH7 2 years ago
@ELITAH7 The part where the scientists proves he is wrong, I loved it too.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Too bad the evidence does not match the bible, but it is not the first time it has been shown to wrong.
Why does this guy think he knows anything about science, just cause he like it.
gregrutz 2 years ago
So who created 'god'???......please do not reply with the stupidest shit answer that 'he' has always been there!!!!
MAN created 'god' !!! NOT 'god' created man.
mannybutch2 2 years ago
didn't you know God has always been there? he has because they say he has! don't try to bring that point up or they'll all block their ears and shout
'la la la' until you go away
dooivid 2 years ago 2
You got that right!!!
mannybutch2 2 years ago
This guy is tripping over himself from the beginning. Ha ha. He puts forward 'an uncreated intelligence which by definition is supernatural' then dismisses aliens because you'd have to ask 'where those aliens created or not?' ha ha ha. What about supernatural aliens?? I mean if you are going to suspend the natural order to allow for a creator, then perhaps you could do the same for aliens..
dawduk 2 years ago
He's saying that there is no point in arguing whether life came from aliens because then we'd just start saying 'well were the aliens created or did they evolve?' Mentioning aliens is just putting off the debate between creation and science. I'm quite enjoying his argument so far, I've been watching too many whack job creationists like that Stein guy and VenomfangX... refreshing to hear a rational argument.
dooivid 2 years ago
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT....twisting evolution into a car design
The facts for evolution could'nt be more crystal clear....religion has never proved one single thing!!!!
Now you are trying to twist and confuse with evolution!!
PILE OF SHIT!!!!
mannybutch2 2 years ago
what he's saying is that cars look the same because people designed them based on one design and that animals with convergent evolutionary traits can also be used to argue that one designer made them all.
dooivid 2 years ago
I know what he is talking about, i'm just have a rage at the way things can get so twisted for the religious nuts to believe a pile of crap!!!!
mannybutch2 2 years ago
yeah true, you have to admit that this guy is a breath of fresh air compared to the morons that are out there though. look at people like venomfangx and ray comfort, seriously degenerate people. At least Carl doesn't make me want to throw my computer screen out the window.
dooivid 2 years ago
Apes have blod types so similar, they may as well be ours.
mannybutch2 2 years ago
Where do you get this...lies stop reading your school textbooks.
Turpy7777 2 years ago
It is called reality!! PAL!!
mannybutch2 2 years ago
This bloke is blinded by his own bullshit!!
Evolution is still going on and will never stop evolving..
If ''god'' created these animals and all other living things ''he'' would have made them perfect so they would not have any mutations!!!!!!!
''god'' created us in his own reflection!!??
HE MUST HAVE BEEN SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE...EVEN A SPASTIC!!
NO I SHALL REPHRASE THAT ''HE'' IS A SPASTIC!!!!!!
mannybutch2 2 years ago
Of course you don't have any proof of evolution...the Fool says in his heart there is no God...
Turpy7777 2 years ago
What about the Nylon bacteria! That evolved out of no where. Infact, where did virus come from? like AIDS, flu, cold,birdflu, infact bird flu evolved into a human threat, AIDS may have evolved out of the ground!
'gods' don't make bacteria or virus or frogs and other species change, people should not think short time, just because you can't see it changing dosen't mean it is not, ''god'' is only a SPEED apllication.
People don't like the ape idea!
Why did 'god' put thier DNA so close!!??
mannybutch2 2 years ago
Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Aids, some of those are man made...try and research this ...they where man made....and again if its not observable and testable is not scientific...what is the difference between something not happening and something that you don't see happening because supposedly it takes billions of years and you can't be there....no difference...it falls in to a belief...so stop being foolish and wake up...
Turpy7777 2 years ago
Even if it's true that "some of those" are man made (so much for observable, testable, evidence, huh?) you fail to address nylonase.
And here's a question: Why do some chicken embryos have atavistic teeth? Are those man made, too?
Leehofooks 2 years ago
but with evolution, the formation of reaity of today was a mistake..... so they both sound like fairytales
AsianSensei 2 years ago
Abiogenesis is a major stumbling block for evolution. It looks very much like a fairy tale.
cpsoper 2 years ago
Abiogenesis is a seperate theory from evolution. Nice try, though.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
Curious then that most evolution texts spend time with it. This is a futile attempt to divorce an embarrassingly speculative field of science fantasy.
cpsoper 2 years ago
Most evolution texts? Really? More like most creationist propaganda.
Leehofooks 2 years ago