if i had a 13 year old wife, i wouldn't beat her up; i would treat her like a princess, buy her presents, and treat her real good. i would cuddle with her and romance her everyday. these middle eastern fucks know nothing about treating a child wife.
The prophet Mohammed Peace be upon him said before his death to take care of women. In the quran Allah commands : Do not treat the women harshly. May Allah guide us All...
Depends what you (or Muhammad) mean(t) by uttering that phrase.
"Do not treat the women harshly"
Does this apply to "disobedient" children, women too? No... Those can be easily "honor-murdered" without consequences. Legal compendiums just like Umdat al-Salik (see o1.2) prove this claim.
If a religion teaches people to act this way, even by institutionalizing this kind of behavior to some extent, then it cant be said it wouldnt matter at all.
I really love how Christians and Muslims battle it out on what the scriptures say. It's like you're both honestly insane people. Anyone who can believe in either of those cruel idiotic books...I personally believe are insane. I have no problem publicly telling Christians that they're psychotic for their beliefs and racist, oppressive, sexist, immoral...all based off their book. If you endorse the book, you are now my enemy. All religion must burn.
@jjjlove1000 the tax what you pay is not for their parents but for Oil what you need for your cars which commes from Irak, for test of the new guns what your goverment makes and test them in Afganistan, or for wages of those Monster Soliders who Kill, rape,and when they comm back home you celebrate them as heros. have you got the pic now you Madam superbrain?
If they get caught, they end up in prison. This was documented over and over again. On the other hand, we cant say this about the "Soldiers of Allah" who killed and raped many times more. (According to some estimates 2/3+ of victims are theirs.)
"celebrate them"
Nope. "We" only celebrate the heroes, not the criminals.
"got the pic now"
The problem here is, your "pic" is heavily distorted and hence invalid.
@Wrath0fKhan its not just one people religion that kill and rape its is known in history in all wars not all soldiers are bad but it seams only the bad ones are shown making the good ones look bad so all soldiers get the blame
All I can say is religion all down through the ages are to blame. I for one thanks the start I am not religious but a spiritual person and anything like this that is done" In the name of God" is wrong. This should be stopped..these are children.not tools or slaves, but I know this. The ones that perpetrate this will answer for it , if not in this life in the next. Their souls will pay the price.
while the men sleep get a knife and castrate them. u can blame religion all u like but its a lie. these men are not evolved to be called humans they act worse than apes, and monkeys. all bio life forms work pretty much the same way. if an animal is horny u cut off their balls and it makes them safe to be around children. these r not men they r mentally ill. try castrating them it works with all other life forms. if they want to be respected as humans then they should act like it. they want help
@naughtyromybbw life only understand love when it is shown, thats why we should protect the children. thats why the children r protected in most educated countries and pedeos go on a mentally ill list. some have tried castration and grateful for not being a victim of their hormones. the male hormones r like a drug in how they control the mind, educated ppl understand self control.. some mental illnesses jus act on instincts, they don't think or empathize with others..
i was an abused child,but i was "lucky" cuz he hasn't penetrate me,but just played with my body.it happened by my 8 to my 11 years and it leaved me so many big troubles; with personality disturb in an important alimentary desorder,i've simply give the fault all of that shame to my body.i thought that was.my body that caused the "accident".now i'm 34 and i'm feeling better,but who will save those poor children?
@naughtyromybbw hmm its been an historic problem.. and yes i have seen how it affects ppl, i don't understand the issues they have with what we have discovered, by educating ourselves.. the war was a fucking waste of time.. what they should have done id educate them fat bastards. shame on the fathers for not protecting their beautiful daughters. they r weak men in that place. i do wonder how many of them really believe they r being judged-in the eyes of the world.
@Wrath0fKhan Hey I like what your doing here. I agree 100% this is disgusting and horrible! However I wish to bring out one point to light. Many modern day mulsims reject the concepts of abuse towards woman and children. They are don't agree with it any more than you or I. Just like many jews and christians are disgusted by the notion of slavery that is promoted in the bible, both OT and NT. Cultures do change. Theses are extremest living in 3rd nations.
There appears to be lot of common ground between us.
"many modern mulsims reject the concepts of abuse towards woman and children"
I really hope so. Im quite sure that many, I dont really know how many that is, do actually reject those ancient cultural precepts. However, if a poll says that 80% want to reinstate the punishment of stoning in Pakistan (see PEW 2009), Im quite disappointed by such an attitude.
@Wrath0fKhan Again respectfully there is comparing muslims who are educated verse muslims who aren't educated. Many who come from 3rd world countries will agree with the barbaric traditions from their holy book. Just like in 3rd world countries in Africa where children are being beaten as witches. Sarah Palin promoted a minster who was from Africa and convinced his church to scare a woman who did tarot readings in her home, to leave her village, in fear for her life. Ignorance is the key here.
"there is comparing muslims who are educated verse muslims who arent educated."
Educated in what? Traditional Islam? Yet thats what this "project" is partially about.
"many who come from 3rd world countries"
I have a problem with such a claim, since those "first" generations (e.g. of immigrants) managed to adapt quite well, and its rather those latter generations who succumb to the "revivalist calling" (especially in European countries).
Oh how the world works. Often ppl with a religion and lack of education often will believe that if something goes wrong its because their god is mad at them. For ex. in the 1600s in MA the some girls from a puritan community began throwing hysterics. Hence they assumed witchcraft was the cause.
"immigrants) managed to adapt quite well,"
What is different when they come here? Compared to the dangers of their country? Also here they have food and protection.
Sorry, dear friend, but we dont live in the 1600s anymore. (And I surely have no desire to model my life according to that era.)
"witchcraft"
People dont get sentenced for witchcraft in Europe anymore. However, they do get sentenced for witchcraft in certain backward countries. Some of these are of course Islamic.
"what is different when they come here"
If they adapt as expected than not much is different there. If they dont, or if they "revert", then trouble is in the making.
@Wrath0fKhan Yes we don't live in the 1600s, but lack point was the ppl were ignorant to the actual cause of their problems. Which is often the case in theses places.
"However, they do get sentenced for witchcraft in certain backward countries. Some of these are of course Islamic."
Yes &some are by xian countries in Africa. Even in parts of the USA ppl accused of being something fear have suffered harassment, some have to move.
Of course Im not acknowledging "it". Because its irrelevant. Just as "we" dont live in the 16th century, "we" dont live in Africa, Middle East, tribal societies, traditional patriarchal societies, etc. By bringing this on the table you are committing a fallacy of irrelevance.
"Americans who are harassed .. are just nothing"
Yea... In comparison to "the real deal" - and thats the key point.
@Wrath0fKhan "You are pointing out a factor of "irrelevance"."
We should clarify what the relevance is. I'm pointing out that islam is no diff. than any other monotheist belief, being able to be cruel and barbaric when in the hands of either they poor and ignorant or the rich and power hungry. What was your point of relevance?
"dont live in Africa, Middle East, tribal societies, traditional patriarchal societies, etc"
Your video takes place in a third world country, so how do my ex. not apply?
"Im pointing out that Islma is no diff than any other monotheist belief"
And thats a false statement right there. Just look up plenty of diverse economic, social, societal, etc. quantifiers and test your hypothesis on the spot. You will see it crumbling before your eyes.
"being able to be cruel"
Anyone can be cruel. But again, you keep failing to put "things" into perspective.
"Your video takes ... how do my ex. not apply"
Because you keep mixing apples and pears so to say.
@Wrath0fKhan "And thats a false statement right there. Just look up plenty of diverse economic, social, societal, etc. quantifiers and test your hypothesis on the spot. You will see it crumbling before your eyes."
I have looked it up, care to share this evidences? At one point islamic religions were actually rather enlighten compared to the west and were the center of the advance world. Then they went into religious extremism and poverty. Again please explain. I'm simply trying to understand.
"I have looked it up, care to share this evidences"
Sure... Go ahead. Lets see if you can "counter" what Ive provided so far.
"at one point .. enlighten compared to the west"
Yet another argument from irrelevance? Again, I dont live in the past, so your attempt is pointless. Interestingly, none of this "enlightenment" happened at the time of the Islamic prophet and his "righteous successors". It happened much later, as their realm expanded and started incorporating other cultures.
@Wrath0fKhan didn't see this until I got my email.
The point if you ignore the past you fail to see the exact same pattern that this sort of thing has happened before. Those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it. If you wish not to accept the past or even modern examples in other countries then there is nothing I can do for you. You are set by your opinion and wish not to discuss it further. Gotcha!
"the point if you ignore the past you fail to see the exact same pattern"
No! We are not analyzing a historic pattern. And if we do so, its secondary in any case. The point remains the same. We dont live in the past anymore. Moreover, its foolish to give free room to outdated and already overcome cultural vestiges. You dont seem to get that at all.
"Those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it"
Talking in platitudes again? Besides, you are shooting yourself in the foot here.
Really? What about the "indisputable" evidence? Just like here?
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In the UK, it is estimated that up to 24,000 girls under the age of 15 are at risk of female genital mutilation. Across government work is taking place top tackle this cruel and brutal practice."
@Wrath0fKhan "In the UK, it is estimated that up to 24,000 girls under the age of 15 are at risk of female genital mutilation. Across government work is taking place top tackle this cruel and brutal practice."
And most male babies in the USA have had their genitals mutated here! In fact its not illegal and even pushed onto parents!
I'm not embraced at all. In fact you remind me of a person I chatted here on YT not too long ago. He was anti muslim and attack those who saw how xianity, judism and islam shared common trates. He was often offended by this and used this exact same line. Our debate was about how xianity can be as barbaric to islam. He didn't have much in this defense and just kept going off against islam.
@Wrath0fKhan "Yea... In comparison to "the real deal" - and thats the key point."
You are aware that intolerance doesn't usually start with full blown bigotry. It begins with small thing. A comment here and there. A joke that more ppl find acceptable. Then just dirty looks, that turn into sneers, then jeers, then riots.
We should openly declare certain vestigial cultural features as unwelcome. Just as we dont tolerate pedophiles, we wont tolerate scripturally supported pedophilia either. As we dont support traditional patriarchy anymore, we wont support attempted revival of patriarchy, either. And so on...
"small thing"
Actually all points Im making are "big things", not small ones. It took centuries and recently decades to achieve some progress. Throwing it away is foolish.
@Wrath0fKhan "We should openly declare certain vestigial cultural features as unwelcome. Just as we dont tolerate pedophiles, we wont tolerate scripturally supported pedophilia either. As we dont support traditional patriarchy anymore, we wont support attempted revival of patriarchy, either. And so on..."
So what is it your not going to tolerate as per the subject we are disgusting? Or are you simply not willing to disgust anything. I notice you don't make clear any point.
Female genital mutilation, sharia zones, social pressure aiming at traditional patriarchal revival, general intolerance towards homosexuals, intolerance of free inquiry, unequal laws applied in courts because of "cultural sensitivities", traditionalist consanguinity, exhortation to sedition and abolition of pluralist democracy, and so on and so forth.
@Wrath0fKhan "Actually all points Im making are "big things", not small ones. It took centuries and recently decades to achieve some progress. Throwing it away is foolish."
I'm pointing out that the little ones lead to the big ones. A waterfall begins with just a drop of water.
@Wrath0fKhan "Your point is again of "irrelevance". (As was demonstrated repeatedly.)" Forgive me but you haven't demonstrated a single thing. You merely dismiss my point but don't explain why. Please explain.
@Wrath0fKhan I think I understand. You like your opinion and don't wish to hear other wise nor wish to explain your points. You merely are comfortable with the concepts you have now. Okay. gotcha. No more bother from me.
@Boudiga "I think I understand" I think you dont understand at all. "You like your opinion" Here we go again... No... Its not about my opinion. Im directly referring to experts. (In any case, my opinion is secondary.) "dont wish to hear other wise" Wrong again. Besides, not all "other wise" is relevant - as Ive repeatedly pointed out and explained, too. "nor wish to explain your points" Im starting to think something... "No more bother from me" Thank heavens. (And better wake up.)
@Wrath0fKhan "I dont support Palin in any capacity."
I wasn't suggesting you did. Sorry if it sounded that way. I was only pointing out that even high politicians have been involved in with religious extremest who have caused harm to innocent people.
Most of conferences made by Muslim clerics (especially in the Philippines) DOES NOT include women, only men. This is the reason why NONE of them knows the issue of abused women... Because they (muslim men) DO the abusing! They get encouragement from their fellow abusive men. Nobody's condoning it!
I live in Holland and I see every day how IT (the ideology of Islam) destroys our free society. It works like a virus,a disease,like cancer,from within. First IT created a sub-culture within Holland, which is IT's base for Islamisation and radicalisation (the tumor). Now it's trying to get a hold on our politics and laws (spreading out). They attack all with another opinion (the healthy tissue) untill there is nothing left but blackness, the host dies and it will look for another...
This is what I call cowardliness. I left a society & and a culture that value men more than women; but not nearly as coward as this taliban culture. I admire the courage of the women who run this woman shelter in Kabul where the government cannot even enforce laws that ban forced marriage and marriage younger than 16 years old.
Taliban is not an Educated man, he only corrupted the Koran and Enjoys having sex with females of any ages, including a baby. (like a king with many prostitutes).
he corrupted the koran so many people would follow him and ignoring the western life. Allah will punish him to Hell in a Judgement Day. and soon Islam will remain a happiness life and to enjoy freedom.
where are the people from this country?why are they not stopping this. look at them watching just to make sure this child knows she has no help. stay out of the UK. we do not want you. where are the people to help this girl? only foreginers help?
@gooduH786 if you live in the UK or any country that has islam extremists in it calling for laws to be brought into that country that suppoprt taliban like laws for example in London UK woman who are not Muslim are being raped.spat at threatened for not covering their hair are you speaking out against people who threaten these woman.
you can not say you are against taliban if you live here and do not speak out against these taliban in western countries.
those muslim men are bastards!!! i hope they rot in hell!!! its not bad enough they take a child bride and rape her, they have to beat her to! the governments of the world should take all the woman and little children out of the country and drop the bomb on all those men!
he's like "oh look what a big man i am, beating this little girl". and all those other cowards standing there watching him!
those muslim men are bastards!!! i hope they rot in hell!!! its not bad enough they take a child bride and rape her, they have to beat her to! the governments of the world should take all the woman and little children out of the country and drop the bomb on all those men!
Yes folks, and this is the kind of backward thinking that is looked on as 'rich diversity' by the loony left in its praise of immigration to the UK, hah!
@ukdotcom It is actually very scarey to think we as Westerners are allowing this kind of left wing liberal socialistic thinking in our society which will stop us from being able to eradicate this type of dysfunctional hog wash from our planet!
pull the hell out of there, we shouldn't have gone there in the first place. You can't export democracy and expect them to adopt our way of life. Its their way of life, and we should 'respect' that. In the middle ages we reformed the way we practice our religion (christianity), those people haven't even gone through that stage yet, even the ones that lived for generations in the West.
So stop the immigration from these countries to the West, and deport muslim troublemakers back to their caves.
While the Bible calls all men to love their wives to the extent of dying for them just as Christ died for us, the Koran authorizes Muslims wife-beating. (Koran 4:34)
This beating of the child bride is faithful muslim act, obeying Allah.
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karezza6 5 days ago
he woluldnt hit me like that he would get it shove up is arse
gothicwiccan1 2 weeks ago
if i had a 13 year old wife, i wouldn't beat her up; i would treat her like a princess, buy her presents, and treat her real good. i would cuddle with her and romance her everyday. these middle eastern fucks know nothing about treating a child wife.
JOEtheHOTTIE 1 month ago
@JOEtheHOTTIE pedo
latinrosetje 1 month ago
@latinrosetje they should get some of there own medicine
gothicwiccan1 2 weeks ago
@gothicwiccan1 yes, sick bastards
latinrosetje 2 weeks ago
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JOEtheHOTTIE 1 month ago
Poor Women
God help them
en3am1993 1 month ago
The prophet Mohammed Peace be upon him said before his death to take care of women. In the quran Allah commands : Do not treat the women harshly. May Allah guide us All...
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
"take care of women"
Depends what you (or Muhammad) mean(t) by uttering that phrase.
"Do not treat the women harshly"
Does this apply to "disobedient" children, women too? No... Those can be easily "honor-murdered" without consequences. Legal compendiums just like Umdat al-Salik (see o1.2) prove this claim.
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago
no morals... it doesnt matter what religion you believe in or where you live.. men like this are monsters!
nusrasheikhomar 1 month ago
@nusrasheikhomar
"doesnt matter what religion you believe in"
If a religion teaches people to act this way, even by institutionalizing this kind of behavior to some extent, then it cant be said it wouldnt matter at all.
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago
I really love how Christians and Muslims battle it out on what the scriptures say. It's like you're both honestly insane people. Anyone who can believe in either of those cruel idiotic books...I personally believe are insane. I have no problem publicly telling Christians that they're psychotic for their beliefs and racist, oppressive, sexist, immoral...all based off their book. If you endorse the book, you are now my enemy. All religion must burn.
pbaker7090 1 month ago
Snowflakes! :DD
TheLoveNotWar1000 2 months ago
this is terrible
lostfan1998 2 months ago
she forgot his nachos from the allah snackbar..
ishy321 3 months ago
there's much worse in America unfortunately,, talk to a foster child..
supershroomgirl 3 months ago
@supershroomgirl and their foster parents get pay with our tax money
jjjlove1000 2 months ago
@jjjlove1000 the tax what you pay is not for their parents but for Oil what you need for your cars which commes from Irak, for test of the new guns what your goverment makes and test them in Afganistan, or for wages of those Monster Soliders who Kill, rape,and when they comm back home you celebrate them as heros. have you got the pic now you Madam superbrain?
dariushhamid 1 month ago
@dariushhamid
"kill, rape"
If they get caught, they end up in prison. This was documented over and over again. On the other hand, we cant say this about the "Soldiers of Allah" who killed and raped many times more. (According to some estimates 2/3+ of victims are theirs.)
"celebrate them"
Nope. "We" only celebrate the heroes, not the criminals.
"got the pic now"
The problem here is, your "pic" is heavily distorted and hence invalid.
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago
@Wrath0fKhan its not just one people religion that kill and rape its is known in history in all wars not all soldiers are bad but it seams only the bad ones are shown making the good ones look bad so all soldiers get the blame
gothicwiccan1 2 weeks ago
@gothicwiccan1
You are missing the scope. In addition this type of argument has been satisfactorily dealt with repeatedly.
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
FUCK TALIBAN.. kill all of those bastards.. their not true muslims..
DarkprinX2500 4 months ago 4
All I can say is religion all down through the ages are to blame. I for one thanks the start I am not religious but a spiritual person and anything like this that is done" In the name of God" is wrong. This should be stopped..these are children.not tools or slaves, but I know this. The ones that perpetrate this will answer for it , if not in this life in the next. Their souls will pay the price.
2007kiltie 4 months ago 3
That guy should be shot and all the families that allow child marriages should be punished the way they are punishing the child.
rachelhardy14 5 months ago
while the men sleep get a knife and castrate them. u can blame religion all u like but its a lie. these men are not evolved to be called humans they act worse than apes, and monkeys. all bio life forms work pretty much the same way. if an animal is horny u cut off their balls and it makes them safe to be around children. these r not men they r mentally ill. try castrating them it works with all other life forms. if they want to be respected as humans then they should act like it. they want help
codeXenigma 5 months ago 15
@codeXenigma i agree,thay r not human,they r worst than animals...animals knows how to love,they not!
naughtyromybbw 2 weeks ago
@naughtyromybbw life only understand love when it is shown, thats why we should protect the children. thats why the children r protected in most educated countries and pedeos go on a mentally ill list. some have tried castration and grateful for not being a victim of their hormones. the male hormones r like a drug in how they control the mind, educated ppl understand self control.. some mental illnesses jus act on instincts, they don't think or empathize with others..
codeXenigma 2 weeks ago
@codeXenigma yeah..a social dangerous drug!
i was an abused child,but i was "lucky" cuz he hasn't penetrate me,but just played with my body.it happened by my 8 to my 11 years and it leaved me so many big troubles; with personality disturb in an important alimentary desorder,i've simply give the fault all of that shame to my body.i thought that was.my body that caused the "accident".now i'm 34 and i'm feeling better,but who will save those poor children?
it's so sad and wrong,but what we can do?
naughtyromybbw 2 weeks ago
@naughtyromybbw hmm its been an historic problem.. and yes i have seen how it affects ppl, i don't understand the issues they have with what we have discovered, by educating ourselves.. the war was a fucking waste of time.. what they should have done id educate them fat bastards. shame on the fathers for not protecting their beautiful daughters. they r weak men in that place. i do wonder how many of them really believe they r being judged-in the eyes of the world.
codeXenigma 2 weeks ago
@naughtyromybbw there something that you tread in not worth anything
gothicwiccan1 2 weeks ago
ISLAM....Nothing more to say
anu123km 5 months ago 12
@anu123km And Christianity. All idiotic
pbaker7090 1 month ago
people like this people give islam a bad name...no wonder we are sterotyped..
beckers832 5 months ago
@beckers832 Well read the quran ... they arnt breaking any rules in it. Well as long as she was his wife and she didnt obey him...
Eliot8989 4 months ago
I believe Islam gives Islam a bad name.
Chrominance87 2 months ago
@Chrominance87
Ouch...
Wrath0fKhan 2 months ago
go to hill wtf no muslims could make this to her daughter
MsMissKsa 6 months ago
if i was living in a desert with sand in my vagina i'd wanna whip a bitch too.
enuvune 6 months ago
@sweetdreams228
"in islam its forbidden to beat a women"
Is it ignorance or willful deception on your part?
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Hey I like what your doing here. I agree 100% this is disgusting and horrible! However I wish to bring out one point to light. Many modern day mulsims reject the concepts of abuse towards woman and children. They are don't agree with it any more than you or I. Just like many jews and christians are disgusted by the notion of slavery that is promoted in the bible, both OT and NT. Cultures do change. Theses are extremest living in 3rd nations.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"I like what your doing here"
I like that kind of attitude.
"I agree"
There appears to be lot of common ground between us.
"many modern mulsims reject the concepts of abuse towards woman and children"
I really hope so. Im quite sure that many, I dont really know how many that is, do actually reject those ancient cultural precepts. However, if a poll says that 80% want to reinstate the punishment of stoning in Pakistan (see PEW 2009), Im quite disappointed by such an attitude.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Again respectfully there is comparing muslims who are educated verse muslims who aren't educated. Many who come from 3rd world countries will agree with the barbaric traditions from their holy book. Just like in 3rd world countries in Africa where children are being beaten as witches. Sarah Palin promoted a minster who was from Africa and convinced his church to scare a woman who did tarot readings in her home, to leave her village, in fear for her life. Ignorance is the key here.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@B
"there is comparing muslims who are educated verse muslims who arent educated."
Educated in what? Traditional Islam? Yet thats what this "project" is partially about.
"many who come from 3rd world countries"
I have a problem with such a claim, since those "first" generations (e.g. of immigrants) managed to adapt quite well, and its rather those latter generations who succumb to the "revivalist calling" (especially in European countries).
"Palin"
I dont support Palin in any capacity.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "Educated in what? "
Oh how the world works. Often ppl with a religion and lack of education often will believe that if something goes wrong its because their god is mad at them. For ex. in the 1600s in MA the some girls from a puritan community began throwing hysterics. Hence they assumed witchcraft was the cause.
"immigrants) managed to adapt quite well,"
What is different when they come here? Compared to the dangers of their country? Also here they have food and protection.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@B
"1600s"
Sorry, dear friend, but we dont live in the 1600s anymore. (And I surely have no desire to model my life according to that era.)
"witchcraft"
People dont get sentenced for witchcraft in Europe anymore. However, they do get sentenced for witchcraft in certain backward countries. Some of these are of course Islamic.
"what is different when they come here"
If they adapt as expected than not much is different there. If they dont, or if they "revert", then trouble is in the making.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Yes we don't live in the 1600s, but lack point was the ppl were ignorant to the actual cause of their problems. Which is often the case in theses places.
"However, they do get sentenced for witchcraft in certain backward countries. Some of these are of course Islamic."
Yes &some are by xian countries in Africa. Even in parts of the USA ppl accused of being something fear have suffered harassment, some have to move.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"some are by xian countries in Africa"
You are committing the same mistake over and over again.
"suffered harassment"
Sorry, but your applied "metrics" is flawed.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "You are committing the same mistake over and over again."
No, I'm pointing out a key factor and your not acknowledging it.
"Sorry, but your applied "metrics" is flawed."
So the thousands of Americans who are harassed at the jobs, schools, towns, etc... every year by xian groups are just nothing?
Boudiga 6 months ago
@B
"pointing out a key factor"
You are pointing out a factor of "irrelevance".
"not acknowledging it"
Of course Im not acknowledging "it". Because its irrelevant. Just as "we" dont live in the 16th century, "we" dont live in Africa, Middle East, tribal societies, traditional patriarchal societies, etc. By bringing this on the table you are committing a fallacy of irrelevance.
"Americans who are harassed .. are just nothing"
Yea... In comparison to "the real deal" - and thats the key point.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "You are pointing out a factor of "irrelevance"."
We should clarify what the relevance is. I'm pointing out that islam is no diff. than any other monotheist belief, being able to be cruel and barbaric when in the hands of either they poor and ignorant or the rich and power hungry. What was your point of relevance?
"dont live in Africa, Middle East, tribal societies, traditional patriarchal societies, etc"
Your video takes place in a third world country, so how do my ex. not apply?
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"Im pointing out that Islma is no diff than any other monotheist belief"
And thats a false statement right there. Just look up plenty of diverse economic, social, societal, etc. quantifiers and test your hypothesis on the spot. You will see it crumbling before your eyes.
"being able to be cruel"
Anyone can be cruel. But again, you keep failing to put "things" into perspective.
"Your video takes ... how do my ex. not apply"
Because you keep mixing apples and pears so to say.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "And thats a false statement right there. Just look up plenty of diverse economic, social, societal, etc. quantifiers and test your hypothesis on the spot. You will see it crumbling before your eyes."
I have looked it up, care to share this evidences? At one point islamic religions were actually rather enlighten compared to the west and were the center of the advance world. Then they went into religious extremism and poverty. Again please explain. I'm simply trying to understand.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"I have looked it up, care to share this evidences"
Sure... Go ahead. Lets see if you can "counter" what Ive provided so far.
"at one point .. enlighten compared to the west"
Yet another argument from irrelevance? Again, I dont live in the past, so your attempt is pointless. Interestingly, none of this "enlightenment" happened at the time of the Islamic prophet and his "righteous successors". It happened much later, as their realm expanded and started incorporating other cultures.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
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The point if you ignore the past you fail to see the exact same pattern that this sort of thing has happened before. Those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it. If you wish not to accept the past or even modern examples in other countries then there is nothing I can do for you. You are set by your opinion and wish not to discuss it further. Gotcha!
Boudiga 6 months ago
@B
"the point if you ignore the past you fail to see the exact same pattern"
No! We are not analyzing a historic pattern. And if we do so, its secondary in any case. The point remains the same. We dont live in the past anymore. Moreover, its foolish to give free room to outdated and already overcome cultural vestiges. You dont seem to get that at all.
"Those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it"
Talking in platitudes again? Besides, you are shooting yourself in the foot here.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"set by your opinion"
Really? What about the "indisputable" evidence? Just like here?
HOME OFFICE
"Female genital mutilation
In the UK, it is estimated that up to 24,000 girls under the age of 15 are at risk of female genital mutilation. Across government work is taking place top tackle this cruel and brutal practice."
Youd better stop embarrassing yourself.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
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@Wrath0fKhan "In the UK, it is estimated that up to 24,000 girls under the age of 15 are at risk of female genital mutilation. Across government work is taking place top tackle this cruel and brutal practice."
And most male babies in the USA have had their genitals mutated here! In fact its not illegal and even pushed onto parents!
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "Youd better stop embarrassing yourself."
I'm not embraced at all. In fact you remind me of a person I chatted here on YT not too long ago. He was anti muslim and attack those who saw how xianity, judism and islam shared common trates. He was often offended by this and used this exact same line. Our debate was about how xianity can be as barbaric to islam. He didn't have much in this defense and just kept going off against islam.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
Now it is obvious. You are an idiot...
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "Yea... In comparison to "the real deal" - and thats the key point."
You are aware that intolerance doesn't usually start with full blown bigotry. It begins with small thing. A comment here and there. A joke that more ppl find acceptable. Then just dirty looks, that turn into sneers, then jeers, then riots.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"intolerance"
We should openly declare certain vestigial cultural features as unwelcome. Just as we dont tolerate pedophiles, we wont tolerate scripturally supported pedophilia either. As we dont support traditional patriarchy anymore, we wont support attempted revival of patriarchy, either. And so on...
"small thing"
Actually all points Im making are "big things", not small ones. It took centuries and recently decades to achieve some progress. Throwing it away is foolish.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "We should openly declare certain vestigial cultural features as unwelcome. Just as we dont tolerate pedophiles, we wont tolerate scripturally supported pedophilia either. As we dont support traditional patriarchy anymore, we wont support attempted revival of patriarchy, either. And so on..."
So what is it your not going to tolerate as per the subject we are disgusting? Or are you simply not willing to disgust anything. I notice you don't make clear any point.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"so what is it your not going to tolerate"
Female genital mutilation, sharia zones, social pressure aiming at traditional patriarchal revival, general intolerance towards homosexuals, intolerance of free inquiry, unequal laws applied in courts because of "cultural sensitivities", traditionalist consanguinity, exhortation to sedition and abolition of pluralist democracy, and so on and so forth.
"I notice you dont make clear any point"
Rather stop equivocating and better wake up.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@W "Female genital mutilation, "
Male genital mutilation is done by all 3 main monotheist religions. Just as horrible&should be illegal.
"general intolerance towards homosexuals"
Xians &jews have this problem too.
"ntolerance of free inquiry, unequal laws applied in courts because of "cultural sensitivities"
Problem I've found w/ xians & jews as well.
"exhortation to sedition and abolition of pluralist democracy"
Also done in India, China and other 3rd world countries. Fail to see your point.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"male GM"
So you are again coming up with "irrelevance" then, I see.
"x j have this problem too"
Really? Why arent h stoned, or whipped anymore? Because? Indeed... Because your argument is again irrelevant.
"problem Ive found wi x j as well"
Really? Yet the economic, social, societal quantifies (indexes) expose your hypothesis again as irrelevant.
"also done in India, China and other 3rd world countries"
Wow... I dont live in India, China or other 3rd world countries.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
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@Wrath0fKhan "Actually all points Im making are "big things", not small ones. It took centuries and recently decades to achieve some progress. Throwing it away is foolish."
I'm pointing out that the little ones lead to the big ones. A waterfall begins with just a drop of water.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"A comment ... then riots"
Your point is again of "irrelevance". (As was demonstrated repeatedly.)
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "Your point is again of "irrelevance". (As was demonstrated repeatedly.)" Forgive me but you haven't demonstrated a single thing. You merely dismiss my point but don't explain why. Please explain.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"Forgive me"
Unless you change your ways (e.g. by starting to accept provided evidence) there is really no room for doing so.
"you havent demonstrated a single"
Wake up already.
"merely dismiss my point but dont explain why"
That aint true either. Wake up and read.
"explain"
For example read that (German) article Ive been referring to. (Its in English anyways.) Your whole "tu quoque"-like argument crumbles...
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan I think I understand. You like your opinion and don't wish to hear other wise nor wish to explain your points. You merely are comfortable with the concepts you have now. Okay. gotcha. No more bother from me.
Boudiga 6 months ago
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan I've actually been rather nice to you, why the hostility?
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"nice to you"
Today you stopped being nice to me.
"why the hostility"
So... Are you about to sober up finally?
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
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@Wrath0fKhan "Today you stopped being nice to me."
Name one thing I said that was rude or disrespectful?
"So... Are you about to sober up finally?"
I've been, I'm just trying to understand you. Still being nice btw.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "If they dont, or if they "revert", then trouble is in the making."
Like any group of people who comes here! Even the people who were born here. That is the nature of man kind. Some will cause problems.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"Like any group of people who comes here"
Nope...
Evidence just like this one suggest something else:
"Study finds young, devout Muslims in Germany more prone to violence"
dw-world(.)de/dw/article/0,,5655554,00(.)html
bit(.)ly/bd7K8w
"Even the people who were born here"
Not at all. Certainly not on "average". And thats one of the key points.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
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@Wrath0fKhan "Nope..."
Really? We never had problems with organized crime from other races or forms of terrorism from other immigrants from other countries?
""Study finds young, devout Muslims in Germany more prone to violence""
As well as many devote xians are pro to violence. Even most prisoners in the USA are xian.
"Not at all. Certainly not on "average". And thats one of the key points."
Nor is the average muslim in the USA .
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan dw-world(.)de/dw/article/0,,5655554,00(.)html
BTW this didn't work, please send to me in PM.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
Im starting to think that you are a genuine idiot. Good bye...
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan alright good bye. LOL
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "I dont support Palin in any capacity."
I wasn't suggesting you did. Sorry if it sounded that way. I was only pointing out that even high politicians have been involved in with religious extremest who have caused harm to innocent people.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga
"even high politicians have been involved in with religious extremst who have caused harm"
I wouldnt question such a proposition at all. Still, we ought to put "things" into perspective.
Wrath0fKhan 6 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan I agree. But Palin herself is an example of christian extremist. How close did she become a heart beat away from running our country.
Boudiga 6 months ago
This not Islam... I am from Afghanistan, but I wish for of these haters to die and go to hell.
Afghanistang 7 months ago
I hope the guy beating this young girl goes to hell.
marilynphan 7 months ago
Devils from hell to do this to children and women. God rot their souls.
Fronika 7 months ago
Anyone need a definition of "sick-minded bastard"?
Yeah...these guys in the video, that's them.
rainbowmuppet 7 months ago
Are Muslims cowards and rapists?
grubelsucht 8 months ago
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gatsbyfaulkner 8 months ago
Most of conferences made by Muslim clerics (especially in the Philippines) DOES NOT include women, only men. This is the reason why NONE of them knows the issue of abused women... Because they (muslim men) DO the abusing! They get encouragement from their fellow abusive men. Nobody's condoning it!
gatsbyfaulkner 8 months ago
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oh my god what a ahole i think this is sick i would wilp him
anna669ful 8 months ago
oh my god what a ahole i think this is sick
anna669ful 8 months ago
I live in Holland and I see every day how IT (the ideology of Islam) destroys our free society. It works like a virus,a disease,like cancer,from within. First IT created a sub-culture within Holland, which is IT's base for Islamisation and radicalisation (the tumor). Now it's trying to get a hold on our politics and laws (spreading out). They attack all with another opinion (the healthy tissue) untill there is nothing left but blackness, the host dies and it will look for another...
FAFYWARRIOR 8 months ago 2
This is what I call cowardliness. I left a society & and a culture that value men more than women; but not nearly as coward as this taliban culture. I admire the courage of the women who run this woman shelter in Kabul where the government cannot even enforce laws that ban forced marriage and marriage younger than 16 years old.
squirtad 8 months ago
Omg!! This culture is so ridiculus! Its not the women who need education its the men!
13moredays 9 months ago
evil mother fucks proof islam is of the devil.
1980vince 9 months ago
wrong. first of all that is not afghan man in the video; he is Taliban
mohabbat66 9 months ago
@mohabbat66 Where is the Taliban man from and are all those men standing around taking pictures also Taliban?
MsColdCanada 7 months ago
@MsColdCanada
im from Afghanistan so that much i know that Taliban are not from Afghnistan till date no one knows from where they are
mohabbat66 7 months ago
Taliban is not an Educated man, he only corrupted the Koran and Enjoys having sex with females of any ages, including a baby. (like a king with many prostitutes).
he corrupted the koran so many people would follow him and ignoring the western life. Allah will punish him to Hell in a Judgement Day. and soon Islam will remain a happiness life and to enjoy freedom.
lifestream85 9 months ago
Let a Western man get a hold of this guy! I can guarantee that the idiot will get the beating of his life with the FIST of a Western man for sure!
kastnmagic 9 months ago
@163harish No we don't Islam radicals are the devils face!
lucy9359 9 months ago
wow that's is totally fukup.
Needshoe 10 months ago
that looks like the horrible abuse in Abu Ghraib. :-(
JeanySullivan 10 months ago
@TheAli570
This is not true Islam.
Don't support the Taliban
Quiltinguk 11 months ago
where are the people from this country?why are they not stopping this. look at them watching just to make sure this child knows she has no help. stay out of the UK. we do not want you. where are the people to help this girl? only foreginers help?
xzsb 1 year ago 26
@xzsb
"Stay out of the UK"
Google: "Shame of Britain's Muslim schools: Secret filming shows pupils being beaten and 'taught Hindus drink cow p***'"
Watch: [watch?v=nqx2WWiusZ0]
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 16
@xzsb Oh hunny. The people are around watching. They are no less ignorant than the one beating her.
EuroStatus1985 9 months ago
@xzsb if they try to stop them they will get killed.
cassidy99ful 8 months ago
@xzsb u say get out of my country when i hate talban
gooduH786 6 months ago
@gooduH786 if you live in the UK or any country that has islam extremists in it calling for laws to be brought into that country that suppoprt taliban like laws for example in London UK woman who are not Muslim are being raped.spat at threatened for not covering their hair are you speaking out against people who threaten these woman.
you can not say you are against taliban if you live here and do not speak out against these taliban in western countries.
Do you speak out or silent support.?
xzsb 6 months ago
@xzsb of course i hate taliban you idiot they r muslims by name not by action they also kill muslims too so it snot against others if you get me
gooduH786 6 months ago
those muslim men are bastards!!! i hope they rot in hell!!! its not bad enough they take a child bride and rape her, they have to beat her to! the governments of the world should take all the woman and little children out of the country and drop the bomb on all those men!
he's like "oh look what a big man i am, beating this little girl". and all those other cowards standing there watching him!
LadyScorpio39 1 year ago 4
those muslim men are bastards!!! i hope they rot in hell!!! its not bad enough they take a child bride and rape her, they have to beat her to! the governments of the world should take all the woman and little children out of the country and drop the bomb on all those men!
LadyScorpio39 1 year ago 4
i dont know wt kind of islam they follow.. hitting womens...
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lucy9359 9 months ago
Yes folks, and this is the kind of backward thinking that is looked on as 'rich diversity' by the loony left in its praise of immigration to the UK, hah!
ukdotcom 1 year ago 4
@ukdotcom It is actually very scarey to think we as Westerners are allowing this kind of left wing liberal socialistic thinking in our society which will stop us from being able to eradicate this type of dysfunctional hog wash from our planet!
lucy9359 9 months ago
@lucy9359 I do not know why you sent this, but having viewed I agree.
ukdotcom 9 months ago
There is just one way one word for these people; ANIMALS.And then again,no, animals are far better....
potlood55 1 year ago 4
He clearly enjoys beating the girl. Disgusting!
Expeldarkness 1 year ago 8
Muhammadan islam equals sadism. The muhammadans get a kick out of seeing other people suffer...
Derdedag 1 year ago 6
pull the hell out of there, we shouldn't have gone there in the first place. You can't export democracy and expect them to adopt our way of life. Its their way of life, and we should 'respect' that. In the middle ages we reformed the way we practice our religion (christianity), those people haven't even gone through that stage yet, even the ones that lived for generations in the West.
So stop the immigration from these countries to the West, and deport muslim troublemakers back to their caves.
wvthoog 1 year ago 2
While the Bible calls all men to love their wives to the extent of dying for them just as Christ died for us, the Koran authorizes Muslims wife-beating. (Koran 4:34)
This beating of the child bride is faithful muslim act, obeying Allah.
givethanks1314 1 year ago