She is still as moronic as she was last time around. President Palin, ............doesn't that send chills up and down your spine. The World is slowly starting to regain some of the trust that the buddies of Bush destroyed. That would be reversed if she got power like that. I doubt Americans are that stupid.
@fbi10 So that makes you my bitch now. Don't worry, I won't hurt you. I am satisfied with the public embarrassment that you suffer daily here on this thread.
@tgear77 the only bitch here is you, how i bitched slapped day after day after day...pretty soon you'll be getting money for on the street. Must be tough kissing obama's white ass after that one, eh freckles? LOL!!
@fbi10 Wow! Not only was that so immature, but it was as if English was your third language. Do you even know how to compose a coherent sentence? Obviously not.
@tgear77 actually, it is my third language LOL...but anyway, when you start mentioning the way "compose a coherent sentence" just proves, to me, that you have nothing else because lets face it, you got owned....but owned bad...like....Palin owning Obama...LOL!!!
@fbi10 No, my asking if you can compose a coherent sentence is in response to the mess of a post you wrote above. I have proven you wrong every day of the week and twice on Sunday and it has left you a whining cry-baby who can't even form a complete sentence. I suppose that English is your 3rd language, right after Mumbling and Whining.
@tgear77 apparently you can understand what i am saying dumb ass LOL. proven wrong? no youve proven wrong point after point and then you change your story LOL yea good one LOL go get em tiger
@fbi10 Sorry, but you are only describing yourself. You are in a delusion if you believe that you have proven me wrong on anything. You are the one who changes his story every time you have been put in your place. You are the one who does not understand what facts are. You are the one who is a true cretin.
@tgear77 No i'm not. I'm describing your obsessed self, making up lies and when you get caught, you deny like a little bitch. I haven't changed my story once. You changed your story on mult. topics from health care to troopergate...you have no political argument left on sarah palin...LOL!
@fbi10 Yes, you have. And the fact that you deny that as well shows how far off the deep end you have gone. Please point out where I have changed my story. Troopergate remains the same. The Alaskan Legislature found her guilty of abusing her authority several times. They have more authority than the Personnel Board in the matter. End result: Palin was found guilty.
@tgear77 Troopergate:You said before that they found her guilty but then you go on and say that they had no authority and again you come back and say that now the personnel board has no authority but the AL does? LOL!! This is you flipping around the facts because 1) you don't know what the hell you're talking about 2) you don't want to admit palin was found NOT GUILTY...you can't stand the truth. The Personnel Board is the "law of land" for the politicians and they found her not guilty.
@fbi10 Yes, I do. I never said that the Alaskan Legislature had no authority. I said that there was no punishment established by Alaskan law that could be enforced upon the guilty verdict. And I said that the Alaskan Legislature has more authority than the Personnel board (which is not the "law of the land" for politicians), which is also true. Palin was found guilty and it is you that refuses to accept the truth.
@tgear77 If she was guilty of anything, which she wasn't, and they had more power than the Personnel board, she would have been punished but she wasn't because 1) the Alaskan legislature doesn't have final say 2) The personnel board, after further investigation, found her not guilty (contrary to the troopergate report). (yes it is true that they are the "law of the land"for politicians hence what happened with palin and troopergate final verdict...) You've been refudiated, again...
@fbi10 No, it was due to the fact that under Alaskan law, there was no punishment that could be issued to any Governor, not just Palin. The Alaskan legislature has far more authority than the Personnel Board (and far more credibility since their jobs did not depend on Palin's approval). Palin was found guilty of abuse of authority in the Troopergate affair. You have been refudiated again.
@tgear77 there was no punishment because there was nothing to be punished. If they have "far more" authority, they should have done something. Again, she was found not guilty, hence she wasn't punished, by the personnel board after further investigation. Again, you didn't refudiate a thing because as it turns out, the FINAL verdict was not guilty...i win...LOL!!
@fbi10 Sorry, but the final verdict was guilty of abuse of authority. You're an idiot to believe otherwise. But we knew that you are an idiot already.
@tgear77 The final verdict of the whole troopergate case was NOT GUILTY. she was found guilty in the investigation by troopergate but upon further review/investigation, she was found not guilty. Nice try you idiotic scum...LOOK AT THE FINAL DECISION LOL!!! Nice try,idiot...
@fbi10 It was not "further review/investigation". These were two separate investigations. The one with the most authority, the Alaskan Legislature, found her guilty. Only then did the personnel board step in, and with the Branchflower report in front of them, they made Mama Grizzly happy and kept their jobs by saying she did not abuse her authority. Palin was found guilty. End of story.
"There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters," Timothy Petumenos, the Anchorage lawyer hired to conduct the probe, wrote in his final report.
You're done. End of story...you lost this...again LOL
@fbi10 The Alaska Legislature runs a full investigation and finds her guilty. Only after Palin loses her battle to have her staff ignore subpoenas does she have the Personnel Board start their own investigation in September. Less than two weeks after the AL investigation finds her guilty, then does the Board, who she can fire at will, release their verdict. Which is meaningless, since by ordering her people to ignore subpoenas, she abused her authority. You're done. You've lost.
^what does the final verdict say?? Not guilty...nice spin but you're just going in circle. Notice how she wasn't charge with a thing after?? The branchflower report was just that, a report...the final verdict is what matters LOL man, you're just a puppet. I keep owning you over and over again...LOL!!!!
"The legislative investigation has concluded that Governor Sarah Palin abused her poser in pushing for the firing of an Alaska State Trooper who was once married to her sister..."
You can go read the complete article, as well as many others, that report the final verdict of Palin being found guilty of, as TIME put it, "grossly abusing her authority despite be warned repeatedly about it". You're right: the final verdict matters. It says she's guilty.
@tgear77 November 3rd 2008, washington post by James V. Grimaldi
"There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act by making the decision to dismiss Department of Public Safety Commissioner Mongan," the investigator, Timothy Petumenos, said. "There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in any other respect in connection with the employment of Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten."
"Whether or not the Branchflower Report - which was launched by a bipartisan panel - is a "left wing smear job" is debatable. What is not debatable is that the report clearly states {Palin} violated the State Ethics Act".
We can do this all day. Still doesn't change the fact that she was found guilty.
@tgear77 November 3rd 2008, washington post by James V. Grimaldi
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the running mate to Republican presidential nominee John McCain, did not violate state ethics rules in allegedly trying to fire her former brother-in-law from the state troopers, an investigator for Alaska's State Personnel Board concluded in a report released on the eve of the election.
That's fine, you can repeat old news all you want but again, the FINAL conclusion is that she is not guilty LOL!
@fbi10 Sorry, but no. The final conclusion by the proper authorities was that she repeatedly abused the authority of her office, even after being warned that she and her aides were doing so. You can spin all you want to, but the whitewash attempted by the Personnel board is not taken seriously by anyone. The Branchflower report documents incident after incident of such abuse which will never be swept under the rug by idiots like Palin and you.
@tgear77 Again, the final conclusion of the troopergate case : Tim Petumenos, the lawyer hired by the Board to conduct the probe, was quoted as stating in his final report, "There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters." There is no spin just facts. The only one spinning here is you because you have nothing else. I already debunked you on this, wanna go another round? LOL Not Guilty
@fbi10 You just don't get it, do you? Branchflower did a comprehensive investigation into the matter, with depositions and subpoenas (and which, by ordering her staff to ignore the, Palin abused her authority yet again). Perumenos ignored the Branchflower report, did not issue subpoenas nor interview all parties involved and gave Palin and her board what they asked for. Any one with more than two brain cells who read both reports knows the true finding: GUILTY.
@tgear77 apparently, its YOU who doesn't get it. You're giving the results of the branchflower report but yet not the final verdict. You keep missing or ignoring that part. She didn't abuse her authority (for one, she didn't even fire the douche bag....) and the subpoenas, issued by branchflower himself, were tainted from the start and since the full legislature wasn't in session until January 2009, Colberg stated they wanted to wait until then. None the less, at the end of the whole deal..(cont
cont: she was found not guilty : "There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters." Despite earlier findings (the branchflower report) she was found not guilty...again, i debunked you LOL.
@fbi10 You are not debunked. This is akin to you getting in trouble at school and your principal suspending you. It doesn't matter if your homeroom teacher says that you are not suspended. The principal here was the Legislature. The homeroom teacher, Palin's personnel board. One verdict overrides the other and that is the verdict of the Legislature. She was guilty, is guilty and always will be guilty of abusing the authority of her office.
@tgear77 You are right, i am not debunked. NO, again...LOL...the final CONCLUSION/VERDICT is NOT GUILTY...and like i said, the State legislature does not make the final decision ( at least in this case), the personnel board is in a higher power for the case (anyway, after palin filed an ethic complaint against herself). She was found not guilty in the final verdict, contradictory to what was "found" before...
@fbi10 It is like arguing with my 4-year old daughter. The two of you have the same level of maturity. You actually believe that the Personnel Board has more authority in the state of Alaska than the State Legislature. You actually believe that the Personnel Board, who could have been dismissed at any moment without reason or cause by Palin has more credibility than the Legislature, who Palin could not influence. You actually believe that an investigation launched at the behest of ...
@tgear77 (cont) Palin after she lost her legal battle to prevent her staff from being questioned by Branchflower has any credibility at all. You have lost your mind. The final verdict, the only one that carried any weight, the one that Alaska and the rest of the country holds as the truth, was that Palin was guilty of MULTIPLE abuses of her authority. That is it. She will be followed, rightfully so, by Troopergate for the rest of her life.
@tgear77 Again, the subpoenas in the request of Branchflower were questionable and again didn't effect branchflowers partisan result. But, back to gov. 101, the legislature is there for make laws, they have no authority over palin, hence nothing happened. The personnel board, however, does, the result, contrary to the previous investigation, was not guilty of abuse of power.
@fbi10 Government 101...LOL! The Legislature is a separate branch of the Alaskan Gov't. They do have the power to run checks and balances on the Executive Branch. They do not only exist to "make laws". The Personnel Board serves at the Governor's discretion. They could not even launch an investigation without Palin's permission. The final verdict in Troopergate: Palin was guilty.
@tgear77 Again, the final verdict to the whole case...NOT GUILTY. There's no spin to it. Yes the earlier political stunt investigation found her Guilty but again...the personnel board, after further investigation, found her NOT GUILTY, contrary to earlier findings which means, again...no prosecution, no charges...NOT GUILTY. Again, nice try. LOL.
@fbi10 Oh, now the Alaska Legislature is pulling political stunts? The Republican-led Legislature went after the Republican governor for a political stunt. Had nothing to do with her actions. The Personnel Board did not "further" investigate. Their investigator just went back and re-interviewed some of the same people. His investigation was the political joke you must be referring to. Palin was found Guilty of Abusing her Authority. Perhaps if you actually read the report, you would know.
@tgear77 if you knew anything about alaska, which you don't, you would know that the republicans in Alaska couldn't stand Palin for ending their corruption while she was on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. Yes they did further the investigation as they continued it. Again, i'll give you the actual report final decision in all of this: NOT GUILTY...again...LOL!!!!
@fbi10 Sorry, but they were two separate investigations, not a continuation of the first. The PB investigation did not even go as far as Branchflower, so it was incomplete compared to the first. So it's conclusion pales next to the AL investigation. The only difference was, if the PB had found her guilty, they could have levied a $5000 fine against her. That was it. So bragging that she never went to trial shows how clueless you are. She was never in any danger of going to trial.
@tgear77 Again, the final verdict was not guilty, spin all you want, but the final troopergate verdict was she was found not guilty of abuse CONTRARY to what branchflower said.
@fbi10 The PB 'investigation' was a joke. The Branchflower report had already identified the numerous abuses of authority. Once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in. Palin was so desperate that she demanded the PB clear her name. The most pathetic was seeing her trying to correct the interviewer every time she said 'Troopergate' by saying 'Tasergate', as if changing the nickname of the controversy would change it all.
@tgear77 So it's a joke because they found her not guilty?? ahhh i see...i can really tell you love andrew sullivan...Branchflower, w/e found doesn't matter, it wasn't the final verdict. I can make a report right now and say tgear is a fucking moron but that's not factual proof (even though it's true....). Again, the final verdict of troopergate was NOT GUILTY...LOL
@fbi10 Yes, it is a joke. The Branchflower Report details the abuses of authority by Palin and her staff. The report is open to the public. Just because Palin's little charade of an investigation says she was not guilty does not change the facts unearthed by the Branchflower investigation. It is just like when you try to ignore what you said in previous posts when faced with the facts. Sorry, her abuses are public knowledge and the verdict was guilty.
@fbi10 Sorry, the final verdict, listing all the examples discovered during the course of the investigation, was Guilty as per the Branchflower Report. Whine all you want, it will not make it go away.
@fbi10 The results of the Branchflower report led to the final verdict of the Alaskan Legislative Board: Guilty of Abuse of Authority on numerous accounts. You keep missing the point that there were 2 investigations that led to 2 findings. Yet the ALB finding carries more validity and authority than that of the Personnel Board. As for Colberg, acting on Palin's orders, he wanted to delay an investigation so not to hurt Palin in the election. The Legislature, correctly, ignored him.
@tgear77 Yes, i know that but again, after the investigation was continued by the personnel board, she was found not guilty, "overriding" the previous verdict. The ALB doesn't carry "more validity" or authority because if they did, she would have been charged!!! She wasn't. "delay an investigation" wasn't the case but to wait for the full legislature to be in session, which wasn't. Despite all that, she was still found not guilty of the previous charges, hence how nothing happened after LOL.
@fbi10 It does not override the Legislative Board's verdict. That was entered into the Alaskan State Record. The PB investigation did not continue the original investigation. It was a separate investigation . She did try to delay the investigation, first by ordering her staff to ignore the appeals, then by trying to suggest the full Legislature had to be present, despite the Legislature setting up the 5-member panel to avoid such a feet-dragging tactic. Palin was found guilty.
@tgear77 Yet, the FINAL verdict of the whoooooooooollllllle thing...NOT GUILTY. The legislature wasn't present at the time, they wanted to wait for them because the way the legislature were investigating the matter was suspect. However, still, they found her not guilty but the personnel board continued the investigation and found there was no abuse of power, and therefore, was found not guilty. The legislature is there to make laws not prosecute governors.
@fbi10 The Legislature set up the 5-member bipartisan panel to run the investigation and announce the verdict. Colberg was running a delaying tactic. The Board announced the final verdict: guilty of abuse of authority. The Personnel Board ran a separate investigation, not a continuation. It did not begin until Palin lost in court to prevent her staff from cooperating with the Legislative Board investigation. Sorry, but you are wrong on everything, as always.
@tgear77 yes yes spin spin, i understand what you are trying to do. And again, you seem to not understand the final conclusion of the whole case. She was found NOT GUILTY contrary to earlier findings (branchflower). Hence how nothing happened after...she was found not guilty..good look moving on. You're already been debunked. LOL!
@fbi10 Nothing happened to her because, under the laws of Alaska, there was nothing that could happen to her. Do some fucking research, you clueless moron. You have been debunked and you are too stupid to even know it.
@tgear77 there was nothing that could happen to her because she was NOT GUILTY. there was nothing to charge her with as she didn't do anything wrong LOL. I did my research, no worries, it's you who should go back and look at the final conclusion to this whole thing and get it through your sick head that she's not guilty of abuse...but again...i'll say it...not guilty...LOL!!!
@fbi10 The AL had no punishment to inflict under Alaskan law. The Personnel Board, at worst, could impose a $5000 fine. There was never anything that could happen to her, except to have this on "her permanent record". Which she does now because she was found guilty of repeated abuse of authority. The Branchflower Report, with its detailed accounts of her and her staff and the First Dude abusing the authority of the office will always show that she was guilty.
@tgear77 She was found not guilty. The first dude has every right to use the phone. Do you feel the same way when michelle obama does it? Probably not. Again, there's nothing of sorts that prove they abused power and the final verdict was NOT GUILTY. Good luck trying to grasp that...LOL
@fbi10 No, Todd did not have the right to call over a dozen government employees to try and get Wooten fired. Again, he could call out for pizza, call home to check on the kids, call to get the score of the Washington State game, etc. But he could not try to pressure gov't employees. You are a fucking retard if you try and defend that. Palin was elected; Todd wasn't. And even Palin would have been in the wrong making those calls.
@tgear77 He wasn't trying to get wooten fired either. Ok so michelle wasn't elected but she still uses the phone and tries to influence politicians to go her husbands way. Is that ok?
Todd was the first dude, he didn't abuse anything nor did Palin...
@fbi10 Todd Palin freely admits in his deposition that he wanted Wooten fired. Over a dozen state employees said that Todd pressured them to get Wooten fired. The head of the State Workman's Compensation Board reported (backed with phone records) of over a dozen calls from Todd, trying to convince her that Wooten filed fraudulently and should have charges brought against him. Todd was not elected, not part of the government, and all of it was abuse of the office. These are the facts.
@fbi10 Having Todd make phone calls to people in the government from her office pressuring them to fire Wooten and to turn down his claims. That is abuse of authority. Despite being 'First Dude', Todd has no authority to open mail in her office, let alone contact gov't employees. That alone was enough to find her guilty. End of story. You are debunked.
@tgear77 Again, there was no proof of that. Todd never did that LOL Again, that's he say she say that. Liberal propaganda isn't fact lol...so i am sure that you are OUTRAGED how michelle obama uses obama's phone to make calls, etc, right? Even if Todd did that, todd had every right to use his wifes phone. He was the "first dude", just like michelle has the right to use the phones. You're right, end of story and you've been debunked. Good day, LOL!!!!
@fbi10 Yes, there was and it is in the Brachflower report. It was not an abuse that Todd used the actual phone, moron. If he wanted to call the kids at home or even order pizza from the phone on her desk, fine. Some might frown that it was not proper decorum, but who cares? But he was not allowed to make calls from her office, or anywhere, to employees of the gov't to discuss Wooten. He had no position in the gov't. This is not propaganda, this is fact.
@tgear77 The branchflower report wasn't the final conclusion to the whole case. Notice even with the legislature and the branchflower report found her "guilty" they couldn't do a thing because they don't have the power to. She was never charged PERIOD. The final proceedings and the final conclusion to this whole "political stunt" by the Left and Right in alaska to frame Palin on false charges was NOT GUILTY. There's no dancing around that. This is fact. So todd, as first dude has no right?LOL!!
@fbi10 You are partially right. There was no legal avenue for prosecution under Alaskan law. That was why she was not punished. That does not make her innocent. It is the same as the police finding out you committed a crime, but after the Statute of Limitations has run out. You are still guilty, you just can not be prosecuted. She abused her authority repeatedly and was found guilty. That is the final verdict.
@tgear77 Actually it does make her innocent because again, she was found not guilty in the final conclusion of the whole case. She was found "guilty" in the branchflower report but after further investigation by APC...NOT GUILTY, contrary to earlier findings. Case closed, you've been debunked...AGAIN. lmao!!!!
@fbi10 Wow! You really drink the Kool-Aid. Once again, this was not a furthering of the investigation. These were two separate investigations. The one that was conducted properly found her guilty and details the abuses. The one that was done half-assed to try and help her save face does not cancel out the first. You can't change history. Palin was found guilty.
@tgear77 I didn't realize proving the facts was "drinking the kool-aid" but if it does ok. What AL and branchflower found doesn't mean a thing but the final verdict does and the what the final verdict read was "NOT GUILTY". I am not changing history, you just seem to try and ignore it. Good luck on that.
@fbi10 Buying into everything Palin is drinking the kool-aid. The Branchflower report is the final word on the subject since it covered far more than the PB whitewash. She was found guilty, the world knows it and nothing that the kiss-ass PB report did changed anything. Palin, Todd, Colberg and others were all shown to abused the power of the office. No changing that. Truth bites you in the ass again.
@tgear77 apparently it isn't because she wasn't charged with anything after nor did anything else happened. The PB was the final verdict, move on...you're done. They never even showed abuse of power LOL!! Again, nice try but no dice.
@fbi10 Under Alaskan law, she could not be charged with anything. Doesn't mean she is innocent. The worst thing that could have happened was a $5000 fine, but only the PB could assign that. Are you pretending to be this stupid or are you really so mentally deficient that you can't accept the facts?
@fbi10 She wasn't charged with anything because she could not be charged under Alaskan law. The only punishment that could have been put upon her was a $5000 fine by the Personnel Board. If you had any knowledge of the law, you would know that not being charged is not the same as being innocent. You really are clueless.
@fbi10 No, page 239 does not say that. Emails sent by the GOP say that page 239 says that, but it actually does not. You citing that here shows that you don't actually bother with research but get all your info from the right wing blogs and websites. Page 239 actually deals with part of the Social Security Act that defines physicians services and deals with billing by doctors. IT has nothing to do with the actual care provided. Debunked again. You must be used to getting shown up by now.
@tgear77 Page 239, just like the death panel in section 4001, the Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid and medicare. Seniors and the poor most affected. That's what it is. LOL! No it doesn't deal with just "billing by doctors" but how the care will be provided for medicare patients as well. You haven't debunked a thing . This bill will require rationing, another sort of "death panel", which is what Palin was talking about. It's FACT not fiction.
cont: hence why even his own party, the democrats didn't even want to vote for it. This bill is an official disaster and unpopular among the majority of americans. Obama's mean goal with all this is to establish a public option and then, eventually, a single payer system that doesn't even work for the countries that don't have it: Hence england and france. You failed....AGAIN. haha!
and also, hence why they took out some of the "death panels" in the final bill when people started to find out about them and read for themselves on the internet. LOL! and yet, there are still in there.
@fbi10 You sound more and more like a moron when you talk. So palin had a special case that she needed to worrie about the lawsuit and her lawyer like everyone eles who fights a case can not show up for her? and that she need to fight the case everyday while she was in office. so her staff is the lawyer now? LOL!! WOW why would they need to do that? Taxpayer never had to pay for her case dumbass! You bought some dumbass line from palin that nobody in america belived. Your a dumbass! For real!
@phuture101 It was everyone in her cabinet. No just the lawyer. Yes, taxpayer money was used: Freedom of information act, where they tied up her office with requests of transcripts, papers, and they did it on purpose. Money was used to hire more help in the offices to finding all the information. Workers were spending hours preparing papers. They weren't working for the governor anymore but wasting time and money. The state of alaska was crushed by paper work, done on purpose to stop her from
cont: governing and eventually get her impeached and ruin her political career. Liberals are mad because they failed at that and now she is more powerful than before...You liberals got so pathetic that you filed an ethic complaint because she was wearing her husbands jacket at an iron dog race. Lets get some education for you, you dumb ass: the governor of alaska, which you know NOTHING about, doesn't have a special fund for legal defense. The AG doesnt defend the governor. Any legal fees comes
cont: from the governors pocket, hence the 27 ethic complaints brought against her by liberals trying to bankrupt her. That's why a legal defense fund was put in place for her behalf. It was set up the same way john kerry's fund was set up, which was ok for him because he's a liberal. then, a liberal attorney found the fund against alaskan law while she was governor.luckly, no money was spent on any of palins fees. So, now she has a new defense fund that no one can touch. Go back to school..LOL
@fbi10 No, she was using a quote from John Wooden Legs but she thought she was using one by John Wooden. There is no spin here. They have even proven how she got the quote wrong. Again, you have failed.
@tgear77 Yes, i agree, she was using a quote from john wooden legs. Did you not look up the quote in the book too? No she wasn't...plus according to you, she didn't even write her book, so how is it her fault?? LOL. The quote isn't wrong...just one word was missing...legs LOL ooh no it's the end of the world...no legs LOL!!!! You're pathetic
@fbi10 Yet Palin went around telling everyone how Coach Wooden's quote meant so much to an "old point guard" like her. Palin did not know where the quote came from but that didn't stop her from crediting it to the wrong source. No, it is not the end of the world. But if you are going to make fun of Obama for a verbal gaffe, then turnabout is fair play.
@tgear77 And where did she go telling that to everyone?? yea, again, great stuff making this crap up. It must not take a lot of brain power...or for that matter...brain LOL.The quote is fine...she forgot to write legs...oh big whoop...again youre making a big deal just to try and prove something that isn't true.
@fbi10 At her book signings when she was asked about the quote. She didn't forget to write anything. She got the quote wrong and never double checked it. I'm not making a big deal about this: it's just further proof of her stupidity. But you will try and 'refudiate' that one.
@tgear77 How did she get the quote wrong?? You're making a big deal about, you stupid ass LOL! Because they forgot to write "legs"? and wait minute, didn't you say this book is ghostwritten?? So how could Palin make the mistake if she didn't write?? LOL! You're an idiot. You didn't prove she is stupid, you liberals always think conservatives are stupid but in fact YOU'RE the stupid ones. Every time you critize her on unimportant issues, you really show how stupid liberals really are.
cont: You guys can't get her on her brilliant governing skills so you pick on the minutia. She had an 88 percent approval rating at the time mccain choose her as VP and you liberals can't stand the fact she's BETTER than obama. She's the only one out of the 4 candidate's that had any executive experience and you liberals can't STAND it. Well, continue enjoying the downfall of your precious obama get ready for PRESIDENT PALIN. LOL!!!!
@fbi10 She's also the only one who quit her job to chase a buck. And isn't it amazing how that approval rating plummeted once those checks stopped coming in the mail and she embarrassed all of Alaska on the campaign trail? President Palin??LOL!!! is right.
@tgear77 she never quit her job to chase a buck. She could have made the same money in office as out. I already debunked this weak sauce of an argument. LOL! Again, the only one that embarrassed someone during the campaign was the media with all it's lies about palin (hence, the beat down i gave you....LOL), but that's ok...you know what, i hope romney does run and gets beaten by obama...4 more years of failed stimulus, government take over, and obama numbers keep getting lower. Go for it.LOL!
@fbi10 "She could have made the same money in office..." So when did the Alaskan taxpayers start paying their Governor $100,000 an appearance to give a speech? When did the taxpayers authorize a 3-week leave of absence for a book tour that would net her almost $700,000? When you make comments like that, you only show the world how stupid you really are? And it was the media's fault that Palin couldn't give the proper answers to questions or speak coherently or stop lying about herself? Moron!
@dumbshittgear77 She got the book deal before the resignation, and would have made the same money, already debunked you low life scum bag of a liberal....i take craps smarter than you LOL i was talking about the book deal numb nuts LOL. all the details for the book were already accepted and the book was due later, i believe February. she gave perfect answers, i guess your IQ is so low that even a person who speaks normal is too complex for you to understand, you swamp insect lol
@fbi10 Yes, she would have had the same advance. But the money from the book tour, the increased royalties from sales generated from the media blitz she went on, the money from speaking engagements, etc... she would not have made that money had she remained in office. So now you have shown that you have no idea how the publishing industry works. Why am i not surprised? And no, she did not give 'prefect answers'. Listen to her answer to Couric on the economy. Fey quoted it word for word on SNL.
@tgear77 The book deal was done before palin left office. It was set for release spring of 2010 with all the political issues (with lawyers, Alaskan constitution, and the alaskan personnel board) all gave her the green light. On couric (which is the only source you keep going back to, also, it was proven she took out Palin's answers such as fannie and freddie) was correct as well. You talking about the bailout question? Ok, please quote the answer...tell me what's wrong with it.
@fbi10 It is not that they forgot to write "Legs"; they attributed the quote to a totally different person. That would be the same as attributing a quote by George Washington Carver to George Washington. Palin even went on about how Coach Wooden's words were so meaningful to an old point guard like her. As for the ghostwriter, Lynn Franklin, perhaps she did make the mistake. But Palin sure took credit for using the quote, so she gets the blame as well.
@tgear77 You've already been refudiated, i don't need to do it anymore. You make things up and lie, but continue, your creditability is already melting away. How about when obama filed for affirmative action to get into Columbia under a fake name? How do you know what his grades are? Are those his daughters or Bill Ayers? Why was Michelle's lawyer licences taken away? Is it because she's a racist like her husband? why did Michelle Ok the dropping off of patients anywhere in her last job?
@fbi10 You claim that I make things up and then fill the whole post with made up claims by you. Talk about hypocrisy. But you are too stupid to realize it.
@tgear77 How do you know they are made up? is it just because i am talking about your precious obama? Liberal lies aren't facts but just that...lies...you gave me lie after lie and when i start to play your own game, you don't like it. You're such a ignorant hypocrite LOL!! Typical liberal idiot...LOL...what a bitch...LOL!!!
@fbi10 For instance: Michelle Obama's license to practice law was not taken away. Obama attended Columbia under the name 'Barack Obama'. Are their daughters really Ayers'? I don't know: is Trig really Bristol's? As crazy as that Andrew Sullivan-fueled theory is, there is more evidence to support his claim than your claim about Ayers. You are the ignorant hypocrite. And it is not even about Political lines: You are so far gone into the Myth of Sarah that you will defend her anything she says.
@tgear77 michelle obama's license got taken away because shes a racist :) obama faked his name and birthplace, he was born in china/kenya..YOU PICK. Bill ayers gave his 2 black children up for adoption and the obamas, with baracks 'cojones' problem, couldnt create another scum bag like him....ayers had the answers. you hypocrite, his evidence is all assumptions, you would do a better job at this if you just copied his palin list of lies, you rat LOL. you still have nothing on palin you dumb shit
@fbi10 Wrong again. Michelle Obama gave up her license to practice in order to start a family. Unlike the Right Wing claims, she was not forced to step down and never faced disciplinary charges from the bar. Obama uses his birth name and was born in Honolulu. The Ayers lie is right up there with Bristol being Trig's mom. You are truly a fucking moron.
@tgear77 LMAO!!! GAVE UP HER LICENSE TO PRACTICE IN ORDER TO START A FAMILY??? LOL!!!!!! Whoa, your ignorance is hilarious. She got her license suspended and sealed because she doesn't want people to know what happened (like everything else they sealed like his school records...) Obama still hasn't shown legit proof that he was born in Honolulu. I asked you to choose between china or kenya as his birthplace...choose one. Ayers spends time with the kids on fridays...true liberal fact. LOL!
@fbi10 No, she did not. The Illinois State Bar Association has even issued a statement to shut down that ugly rumor (and we know what a big fan you are of statements). In order to stop practicing law in Illinois (and stop having to pay bar fees and malpractice insurance) a lawyer must go before a judge and ask to have their license suspended. Michelle Obama voluntarily gave up her license without any actions taking against. Once more you are 'refudiated'.
Michelle was under court order to give up her license and is not allowed to practice law in Illinois, period. Remember what you write about this (which is false either way) and when a republican does this, you're going to support them as well, right?
ARDC - Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois changed the status,for discipline reasons...not for those volunteering to stop practicing. You didn't refudiate a thing...
@fbi10 Sorry, but again, you are wrong. There is no evidence anywhere in Illinois of any disciplinary action taken against Michelle Obama. She, in fact, has a 'voluntary inactive' license (as opposed to her husband's 'voluntary retired' license) which means that she could start practicing law again anytime she chooses to in Illinois. All the ARDC did in regards to this is change her status on their register. Once again (as always) you are wrong.
@tgear77 There is proof, this ADRC is for discipline reasons...not for those volunteering to stop practicing. It is COURT ORDERED...not "Michelle Obama ordered." Their website is very clear about their function and why they step in. She wanted this to 'go away" fast and furious and the details not come out in depositions, courtroom documents, rulings for the client/plaintiffs...etc.. Again, The ARDC specifically states that it only handles discplinary actions and not the normal inactive requests
@fbi10 No, the ADRC keeps a register for all attorneys in the State. That is the only time Michelle Obama's name comes up in the ADRC records. There was no disciplinary actions taken against her. Nice job parroting again. You do know that you can actually find all of this out at the source instead of having to repeat lies.
@tgear77 The ARDC is Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, like i already stated. The ADRC got involved only for discipline reasons...not for those volunteering to stop practicing. It is COURT ORDERED...not "Obama ordered." It states that on it's website. LOOK AT THEIR WEBSITE LOL!!!
cont: like it states very clearly: "Our principal purpose is to assist the Supreme Court to determine a lawyer's fitness to practice law in Illinois. If a complaint is made that an attorney, licensed to practice law in Illinois, has engaged in illegal, unethical or dishonest conduct, we will investigate and, if warranted, bring formal disciplinary charges..."
cont: "The Supreme Court of Illinois will then ultimately decide if a lawyer should be censured (publicly rebuked), suspended (having the law license to practice either taken away for a certain period of time or placed on a probationary period) or disbarred (having the law license taken away indefinitely). "
@fbi10 Look at their very name, you moron. The ARDC keeps the registry of lawyers for the state of Illinois. After Michelle Obama went inactive, the Registry got involved by changing her status on their site. That was it. There were no disciplinary charges brought against her. Show me one iota of proof that there was. You can't. You are trying to make a change in the Registry into a disciplinary charge. LOL!
@fbi10 No, you have not. You only think you have. Palin was wrong. The video with her own words betraying her is here on youtube. You and Palin are both wrong.
@fbi10 Yes, she was wrong. Yes, I have proved it. Yes, you are in serious denial over your goddess' innate stupidity. No, you have not proved anything. Yes, you are a brain-dead idiot.
@fbi10 There are copies of the letters sent to the Governor about her needing to provide a copy of Trig's BC in order for him to be put on the insurance plan. These continue up until her resignation. Why didn't she put Trig on the plan? I don't know about Obama's daughters. Why don't you go find out since that is not relevant here. And, yes, just because you have a child does not mean that it is automatically on the insurance plan. Again, you are clueless.
I never said it was automatically on the insurance plan. Please tell me where I said that?? LOL. Again, you keep typing liberal bs without sources...LOL! It is you who is clueless. Where are the birth certificate of obama's daughters? Oh it's relevant to the whole topic here. Don't dodge. Where are their BC's? Are they Obama's daughters? hmmmm
@fbi10 You implied it by saying "Does she even have to? She's the mother." And, no, the BCs for Obama's daughters are not relevant here because there is no evidence that they are being kept off the White House health insurance coverage. As for sources, do your own research. It took me minutes to find this. Are you admitting that you are too dumb to do the research yourself? I'd believe it. So why won't Palin show that Trig (the cruely named child) is her child?
@tgear77 It does. There is no evidence either that Trig isn't covered by their insurance either. LOL. Where are the BC for obama's kids as well? they might not be his kids either. I mean, how do we know that they are under their government plan, like Palin. Really it took u minutes and yet even while typing this you could have gave me a source? So trig is a bad name too? So why won't obama show us that those are his kids too?
@fbi10 IF he was, then why did they keep asking for his BC so that they could put him on the insurance coverage? And you don't even understand why Trig is a cruel name? You're clueless.
@tgear77 Who's they? And you know their insurance plan? really?? LOL!! Do you know where he got his name from? apparently, the only one clueless here is you LOL
@fbi10 Palin's son suffers from Down Syndrome. There are 7 forms of the Syndrome, each resulting from a third chromosome attached to the original pair in the gene sequence. This is known as Trisomy. In Europe, the seven forms are referred to by the number of the original chromosome pair. The most common form, responsible for 95% of all cases including Palin's son, is Trisomy 21. But in North America, doctors refer to the various form by letter, ranging from A to G. Palin's son suffers from...
@tgear77 (cont) Trisomy-G, or as it is written in medical shorthand, Tri-G. Palin named her son after the genetic abnormality he suffers from. Isn't that a class act? Now I know you will try and spin this, just like Palin's people did. They tried to say that she got it from a Scandanavian word for 'truth', except the word they used was spelled that way. You'll try some bullshit to, but there is no way to spin this other than her horrible parenting skills.
@tgear77 Whoa, just when i think you can't say anything even more classless you go on and attack a little kid. Liberals have no bounds and honestly, you're pathetic. LIke i already said, she didn't name her kid after what he suffers from, you fool, they named their son after his great uncle, a Bristol Bay fisherman, while the name Paxson, his 1st middle name, comes from the well-known snowmachining area. You're PATHETIC and debunked AGAIN...you loser LOL!!
@fbi10 I am not attacking the kid. I have nothing against the child. I am attacking the Palins for being so horrible in naming their child. Yes, I have seen their pathetic defense about some great-uncle. Problem is that no one can find any trace of such a person. They won't even give him a last name. Is he a Heath or from the mother's side of the family? Then they tried to say it was an old Scandinavian name, but that is actually 'Tryggve'. So let's see: Palin has a child that suffers from...
@tgear77 (cont) Trisomy-G, or Tri-G. When the child is born she gives him the name Trig. What is more likely: that she named him after the medical term or after a relative that never existed? This from the parents who named their oldest child after a sport that Grandpa used to coach. Good thing Grandpa never coached Volleyball.
@tgear77 after a relative because those are the FACTS. oooh a relative that never existed??? LOL riiiiight, go back to reading your fairy tales by andrew Sullivan you low life scum bag piece of shit LOL im not calling names...so dont get offended...im just telling you, if you forgot, what you are....LOL
@fbi10 You don't realize Palin quit her job as govenor to make money! She saw on campaining with McCain how much she was liked and she realized that being govenor was not where the money was at. So she quit for the money, she wrote that book which had nothing in it for money! She is living the american dream right now! But please know that she does not care about this country as much as you think.She would not be that misinformed on issues and She already quit on voters in alaska. Wake Up!
@phuture101 She got the book deal while she was governor and it was set to realse the following year in spring 2010. Leaving office to make money is a strawman argument that's already debunked. She wasn't misinformed on issues,she beat biden in the debate LOL! Nice try....
@fbi10 She got the book deal then quit right. She was govenor and when she found out how much she was making on the book and she would make more when she did the tour because she can charge for speaking at those teabagger partys. She was making more money then she would make as govenor of alaska. Thats a fact! Stop trying to make her a saint when she did it for money and there nothing wrong with that! Just quit trying to convince people she cares about them and it's really the money she wants.
@phuture101 she would have made the same amount of money if she stayed governor as well. However, instead of November, the book would have hit stores spring 2010. THIS is fact. Thank for your hate language on the tea partiers by calling them "tea baggers", proves to me how hypocritical you are LOL!!!
@fbi10 So far, no one has found any record of this mysterious great-uncle. So what do you think the odds would be in Vegas on Palin actually having a family member with the same name as the condition her son suffers from? And why would she name her child after such a relative knowing her son's condition? Hhhhmmmm, makes you wonder how loopy she really is. And how stupid you are for supporting her.
@tgear77 oh please, get off your broken down horse. There is proof you idiot. and just for your information, your whole assumption that she named her child after his condition is broken as there is NO proof of that, you lowlife scum bag. The only one stupid here is the one ATTACKING and making up lies about the origins of the babies name, trying to attack palin by her baby...youre such a lowlife and you damn right i'll support her from idiots like you. how stupid you are for supporting obama LOL
@fbi10 There is no proof that she named her child after anything else. The whole 'grand-uncle' story would actually make sense if they could provide some proof of this person ever existing. They haven't even given him a name. And again, what are the odds that her son would suffer from Tri-G and she would just so happen to name him after someone or something else without realizing it? If I had a child with Hansen's disease, would I name him Hansen? No, that would be cruel.
@tgear77 Yes there is, their grand-uncle, according to the grandfather...so you have their family tree on your wall?? Again, arguing Andrew Sullivan point, which is already debunked, doesn't help your case and actually even hinting this is fucking classless at it's finest...you're a real scum bag piece of shit and you should be ashamed...you're ignorant liberal hypocrite LOL! damn...you amaze me. You have no proof for your claims but i do (grandfather's word> )...you're sick...
@fbi10 Yes, the Palin family keeps saying that he was named after "a grand-uncle who was a fisherman around Bristol Bay". That is the entirety of the information that they have given. Yet no one can find any proof of such a person ever existing. So if Palin's father told you the sun was blue, you would start arguing that it was proof of a blue sun? We have a woman with a history of giving her children bizarre names giving the name Trig to a child suffering from Tri-G. And now, ...
@tgear77 (cont) all of the sudden, she has a distant family member with that name. What are the odds? Yet even if she did have this mysterious relative, why would anyone be so cruel as to name their child that? No matter how you spin this, she wound up naming a baby with Tri-G Trig? You honestly think that was a wise choice?
@tgear77 so you know their family tree by heart? You know their family tree better than they do?? Yes i do because it's their kid and they can name Trig after a grand uncle all they want. It has NOTHING to do with anything we've discussed. You're look for andrew suillivan to help you out on this debate, trying to find something else on her but YOU ARE FAILING. And, attacking a fucking kid...you're pathetic...how would you like it if someone did that to yours? Pathetic, LOL
@fbi10 So just show me one reference to this grand uncle. Because people have looked for him and they have found no trace of this mystery granduncle. And I am not attacking a kid. I am pointing out the cruelty of his parents. Because even if we accept their fake story about a grand uncle named Trig, they were still giving that name to a child that suffers from Tri-G. You obviously see nothing wrong with that which proves how much of a Kool Aid drinker you are.
@tgear77 But you see, there is no cruelty because you have no case or evidence of this LOL.You are attacking a kid you idiotic scum bag LOL! The trace are the family members who confirm this. Again, you have no basis for your arguments nor facts but assumptions. Fake story? It hasn't been proven to be fake. Again, i see nothing wrong with it because Trig is named after a family member. Prove me otherwise. Again, attacking the kid and using Andrew Sullivan as a source is fucking hilarious LOL!!!
@fbi10 Sorry, but you are too ignorant to see that I am not attacking Trig, I am attacking Palin. You are the idiot here. The family has not provided anything; they have just perpetuated the lie. I am not using Andrew Sullivan as a source. He is too much of a loose cannon for me. I am using Palin herself as a source. Show me one trace of this mysterious grand-uncle and I will admit I am wrong all over this thread. Until then, shut up about things you are clueless about.
@tgear77 You're attack Palin on false claims. plain and simple. I gave you names of different people with the same name. Your whole basis on with your argument is failed and illogical. Again, i don't need to prove a thing to you if this grand uncle existed because this whole attack is flawed. Palin, as a source, stated the name means strength, brave, or victory. So claiming this is argument of yours comes from palin herself is flawed as well. U need to prove that your claims are facts, not i.LOL
@fbi10 "Palin, as a source..." So now she is a source. So when I say otherwise, that makes me a source as well. What great logic you use. No, Palin claimed it was a family name and that was why it was used. When the flap continued, her people issued the statement about the entomology of the name. Then it was pointed out that they weren't using the correct spelling of the word. So then came the second statement, which you plagiarized. And all of this still does not change the initial....
@tgear77 (cont) problem. Her child suffers from a genetic malformation known as Tri-G. So out of all the names out there, why would any mother subject her child to a name that is the same as his condition? If Piper was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer and given a year to live, would Palin insist everyone call her brave little daughter "Cancer" until the end? Until someone proves the existence of this mystery great-uncle who fished Bristol Bay, Palin's story of naming her son after him is ...
@tgear77 (cont) suspicious at best and fictional at the worst. Given the facts that are known the odds are more likely that she got the name from his condition. But no matter how it all plays out, it is a cruel choice of a name to give her son. No one can spin it otherwise.
@tgear77 oh but it does. The name...it's a name for crying out loud LOL!!! Btw, you still haven't proved that she didn't name Trig after his Grand uncle, etc...good luck finding a source from Andrew Sullivan....a douche bag that even his own staff calls "deranged"...
@fbi10 Again, even if this grand uncle exists, it is still unimaginably cruel to name a child suffering from Tri-G Trig. That you cannot grasp that shows how far you have your head up Palin's ass.
@tgear77 Again, the only thing that is cruel here is you trying to connect Trigs name to what he suffers from..which is classless and pathetic all together. It's a name, just like the rest of the people with the same name...grow up douche bag, LOL!
@fbi10 The kid has Down Syndrome, which means he has trisomy. 95% of all cases of trisomy are Trisomy-G, or Tri-G. The other 5% have symptoms that Trig does not possess. Trig suffers from Tri-G. You can't dance around this one with semantics.
@fbi10 You are insane. We all know that she has never admitted such a thing. Yet as soon as she realized that people had caught on to it, out came the press releases and the mysterious grand-uncle that no one can find any trace of. But, once again, even if this relative existed, it is still cruel to name your child Trig when he suffers from Tri-G. That you can not see this just proves that you will accept any lie she tells you.
@tgear77 ok so if she never admitted it then why are you spreading these lies around about her kid???? would you like it if someone were doing this about your own child?? Again, what he suffers from and what he is named have no impact or connection...you are delusional
She is still as moronic as she was last time around. President Palin, ............doesn't that send chills up and down your spine. The World is slowly starting to regain some of the trust that the buddies of Bush destroyed. That would be reversed if she got power like that. I doubt Americans are that stupid.
samsotherson 1 year ago
stupid bitch
9886635574 1 year ago
SHE ACTUALLY WROTE ON HER HAND........... AGAIN! Palin is a laughing stock...a gift that keeps on giving. LULZ!
gombis666 1 year ago
Cmon Chris...you know you want to ask her "do you think your dumb-ass is electable? "
gombis666 1 year ago
Henry Kissinger is her new world order pimp.
MuammarAlGathafi 1 year ago
Sarah Palin has a large hairy moose vagina..
HorseshitDetector 1 year ago
@fbi10 So that makes you my bitch now. Don't worry, I won't hurt you. I am satisfied with the public embarrassment that you suffer daily here on this thread.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 the only bitch here is you, how i bitched slapped day after day after day...pretty soon you'll be getting money for on the street. Must be tough kissing obama's white ass after that one, eh freckles? LOL!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Wow! Not only was that so immature, but it was as if English was your third language. Do you even know how to compose a coherent sentence? Obviously not.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 actually, it is my third language LOL...but anyway, when you start mentioning the way "compose a coherent sentence" just proves, to me, that you have nothing else because lets face it, you got owned....but owned bad...like....Palin owning Obama...LOL!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, my asking if you can compose a coherent sentence is in response to the mess of a post you wrote above. I have proven you wrong every day of the week and twice on Sunday and it has left you a whining cry-baby who can't even form a complete sentence. I suppose that English is your 3rd language, right after Mumbling and Whining.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 apparently you can understand what i am saying dumb ass LOL. proven wrong? no youve proven wrong point after point and then you change your story LOL yea good one LOL go get em tiger
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, but you are only describing yourself. You are in a delusion if you believe that you have proven me wrong on anything. You are the one who changes his story every time you have been put in your place. You are the one who does not understand what facts are. You are the one who is a true cretin.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 No i'm not. I'm describing your obsessed self, making up lies and when you get caught, you deny like a little bitch. I haven't changed my story once. You changed your story on mult. topics from health care to troopergate...you have no political argument left on sarah palin...LOL!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, you have. And the fact that you deny that as well shows how far off the deep end you have gone. Please point out where I have changed my story. Troopergate remains the same. The Alaskan Legislature found her guilty of abusing her authority several times. They have more authority than the Personnel Board in the matter. End result: Palin was found guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Troopergate:You said before that they found her guilty but then you go on and say that they had no authority and again you come back and say that now the personnel board has no authority but the AL does? LOL!! This is you flipping around the facts because 1) you don't know what the hell you're talking about 2) you don't want to admit palin was found NOT GUILTY...you can't stand the truth. The Personnel Board is the "law of land" for the politicians and they found her not guilty.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, I do. I never said that the Alaskan Legislature had no authority. I said that there was no punishment established by Alaskan law that could be enforced upon the guilty verdict. And I said that the Alaskan Legislature has more authority than the Personnel board (which is not the "law of the land" for politicians), which is also true. Palin was found guilty and it is you that refuses to accept the truth.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 If she was guilty of anything, which she wasn't, and they had more power than the Personnel board, she would have been punished but she wasn't because 1) the Alaskan legislature doesn't have final say 2) The personnel board, after further investigation, found her not guilty (contrary to the troopergate report). (yes it is true that they are the "law of the land"for politicians hence what happened with palin and troopergate final verdict...) You've been refudiated, again...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, it was due to the fact that under Alaskan law, there was no punishment that could be issued to any Governor, not just Palin. The Alaskan legislature has far more authority than the Personnel Board (and far more credibility since their jobs did not depend on Palin's approval). Palin was found guilty of abuse of authority in the Troopergate affair. You have been refudiated again.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 there was no punishment because there was nothing to be punished. If they have "far more" authority, they should have done something. Again, she was found not guilty, hence she wasn't punished, by the personnel board after further investigation. Again, you didn't refudiate a thing because as it turns out, the FINAL verdict was not guilty...i win...LOL!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, but the final verdict was guilty of abuse of authority. You're an idiot to believe otherwise. But we knew that you are an idiot already.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 The final verdict of the whole troopergate case was NOT GUILTY. she was found guilty in the investigation by troopergate but upon further review/investigation, she was found not guilty. Nice try you idiotic scum...LOOK AT THE FINAL DECISION LOL!!! Nice try,idiot...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 It was not "further review/investigation". These were two separate investigations. The one with the most authority, the Alaskan Legislature, found her guilty. Only then did the personnel board step in, and with the Branchflower report in front of them, they made Mama Grizzly happy and kept their jobs by saying she did not abuse her authority. Palin was found guilty. End of story.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 What was the final verdict of the whole case? Not Guilty...you're right, end of story. You were wrong i was right...thank you :)
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Final word on Troopergate: Governor Palin found guilty of abusing the authority of her office. End of story.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Final word eh? I like how you pick and choose LOL
cnnwire(dot)blogs(dot)cnn.com/2008/11/03/2nd-probe-clears-palin-in-trooper-case/
that's from cnn...and what does that say??
"There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters," Timothy Petumenos, the Anchorage lawyer hired to conduct the probe, wrote in his final report.
You're done. End of story...you lost this...again LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 The Alaska Legislature runs a full investigation and finds her guilty. Only after Palin loses her battle to have her staff ignore subpoenas does she have the Personnel Board start their own investigation in September. Less than two weeks after the AL investigation finds her guilty, then does the Board, who she can fire at will, release their verdict. Which is meaningless, since by ordering her people to ignore subpoenas, she abused her authority. You're done. You've lost.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77
cnnwire(dot)blogs(dot)cnn.com/ 2008/11/03/2nd-probe-clears-pa lin-in-trooper-case/
^what does the final verdict say?? Not guilty...nice spin but you're just going in circle. Notice how she wasn't charge with a thing after?? The branchflower report was just that, a report...the final verdict is what matters LOL man, you're just a puppet. I keep owning you over and over again...LOL!!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Anchorage Daily News, Oct. 10th, 2008
"The legislative investigation has concluded that Governor Sarah Palin abused her poser in pushing for the firing of an Alaska State Trooper who was once married to her sister..."
You can go read the complete article, as well as many others, that report the final verdict of Palin being found guilty of, as TIME put it, "grossly abusing her authority despite be warned repeatedly about it". You're right: the final verdict matters. It says she's guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 November 3rd 2008, washington post by James V. Grimaldi
"There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act by making the decision to dismiss Department of Public Safety Commissioner Mongan," the investigator, Timothy Petumenos, said. "There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in any other respect in connection with the employment of Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten."
again, NG.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Washington Post Oct. 13th, 2008
"Whether or not the Branchflower Report - which was launched by a bipartisan panel - is a "left wing smear job" is debatable. What is not debatable is that the report clearly states {Palin} violated the State Ethics Act".
We can do this all day. Still doesn't change the fact that she was found guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 November 3rd 2008, washington post by James V. Grimaldi
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the running mate to Republican presidential nominee John McCain, did not violate state ethics rules in allegedly trying to fire her former brother-in-law from the state troopers, an investigator for Alaska's State Personnel Board concluded in a report released on the eve of the election.
That's fine, you can repeat old news all you want but again, the FINAL conclusion is that she is not guilty LOL!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, but no. The final conclusion by the proper authorities was that she repeatedly abused the authority of her office, even after being warned that she and her aides were doing so. You can spin all you want to, but the whitewash attempted by the Personnel board is not taken seriously by anyone. The Branchflower report documents incident after incident of such abuse which will never be swept under the rug by idiots like Palin and you.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Again, the final conclusion of the troopergate case : Tim Petumenos, the lawyer hired by the Board to conduct the probe, was quoted as stating in his final report, "There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters." There is no spin just facts. The only one spinning here is you because you have nothing else. I already debunked you on this, wanna go another round? LOL Not Guilty
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You just don't get it, do you? Branchflower did a comprehensive investigation into the matter, with depositions and subpoenas (and which, by ordering her staff to ignore the, Palin abused her authority yet again). Perumenos ignored the Branchflower report, did not issue subpoenas nor interview all parties involved and gave Palin and her board what they asked for. Any one with more than two brain cells who read both reports knows the true finding: GUILTY.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 apparently, its YOU who doesn't get it. You're giving the results of the branchflower report but yet not the final verdict. You keep missing or ignoring that part. She didn't abuse her authority (for one, she didn't even fire the douche bag....) and the subpoenas, issued by branchflower himself, were tainted from the start and since the full legislature wasn't in session until January 2009, Colberg stated they wanted to wait until then. None the less, at the end of the whole deal..(cont
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: she was found not guilty : "There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters." Despite earlier findings (the branchflower report) she was found not guilty...again, i debunked you LOL.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You are not debunked. This is akin to you getting in trouble at school and your principal suspending you. It doesn't matter if your homeroom teacher says that you are not suspended. The principal here was the Legislature. The homeroom teacher, Palin's personnel board. One verdict overrides the other and that is the verdict of the Legislature. She was guilty, is guilty and always will be guilty of abusing the authority of her office.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 You are right, i am not debunked. NO, again...LOL...the final CONCLUSION/VERDICT is NOT GUILTY...and like i said, the State legislature does not make the final decision ( at least in this case), the personnel board is in a higher power for the case (anyway, after palin filed an ethic complaint against herself). She was found not guilty in the final verdict, contradictory to what was "found" before...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 It is like arguing with my 4-year old daughter. The two of you have the same level of maturity. You actually believe that the Personnel Board has more authority in the state of Alaska than the State Legislature. You actually believe that the Personnel Board, who could have been dismissed at any moment without reason or cause by Palin has more credibility than the Legislature, who Palin could not influence. You actually believe that an investigation launched at the behest of ...
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 look at the final verdict of the whole thing: Not guilty...look what happened after? Nothing...case closed.
She was found not guilty
fbi10 1 year ago
@tgear77 (cont) Palin after she lost her legal battle to prevent her staff from being questioned by Branchflower has any credibility at all. You have lost your mind. The final verdict, the only one that carried any weight, the one that Alaska and the rest of the country holds as the truth, was that Palin was guilty of MULTIPLE abuses of her authority. That is it. She will be followed, rightfully so, by Troopergate for the rest of her life.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Again, the subpoenas in the request of Branchflower were questionable and again didn't effect branchflowers partisan result. But, back to gov. 101, the legislature is there for make laws, they have no authority over palin, hence nothing happened. The personnel board, however, does, the result, contrary to the previous investigation, was not guilty of abuse of power.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Government 101...LOL! The Legislature is a separate branch of the Alaskan Gov't. They do have the power to run checks and balances on the Executive Branch. They do not only exist to "make laws". The Personnel Board serves at the Governor's discretion. They could not even launch an investigation without Palin's permission. The final verdict in Troopergate: Palin was guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Again, the final verdict to the whole case...NOT GUILTY. There's no spin to it. Yes the earlier political stunt investigation found her Guilty but again...the personnel board, after further investigation, found her NOT GUILTY, contrary to earlier findings which means, again...no prosecution, no charges...NOT GUILTY. Again, nice try. LOL.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Oh, now the Alaska Legislature is pulling political stunts? The Republican-led Legislature went after the Republican governor for a political stunt. Had nothing to do with her actions. The Personnel Board did not "further" investigate. Their investigator just went back and re-interviewed some of the same people. His investigation was the political joke you must be referring to. Palin was found Guilty of Abusing her Authority. Perhaps if you actually read the report, you would know.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 if you knew anything about alaska, which you don't, you would know that the republicans in Alaska couldn't stand Palin for ending their corruption while she was on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. Yes they did further the investigation as they continued it. Again, i'll give you the actual report final decision in all of this: NOT GUILTY...again...LOL!!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, but they were two separate investigations, not a continuation of the first. The PB investigation did not even go as far as Branchflower, so it was incomplete compared to the first. So it's conclusion pales next to the AL investigation. The only difference was, if the PB had found her guilty, they could have levied a $5000 fine against her. That was it. So bragging that she never went to trial shows how clueless you are. She was never in any danger of going to trial.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Again, the final verdict was not guilty, spin all you want, but the final troopergate verdict was she was found not guilty of abuse CONTRARY to what branchflower said.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 The PB 'investigation' was a joke. The Branchflower report had already identified the numerous abuses of authority. Once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in. Palin was so desperate that she demanded the PB clear her name. The most pathetic was seeing her trying to correct the interviewer every time she said 'Troopergate' by saying 'Tasergate', as if changing the nickname of the controversy would change it all.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 So it's a joke because they found her not guilty?? ahhh i see...i can really tell you love andrew sullivan...Branchflower, w/e found doesn't matter, it wasn't the final verdict. I can make a report right now and say tgear is a fucking moron but that's not factual proof (even though it's true....). Again, the final verdict of troopergate was NOT GUILTY...LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, it is a joke. The Branchflower Report details the abuses of authority by Palin and her staff. The report is open to the public. Just because Palin's little charade of an investigation says she was not guilty does not change the facts unearthed by the Branchflower investigation. It is just like when you try to ignore what you said in previous posts when faced with the facts. Sorry, her abuses are public knowledge and the verdict was guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 The final verdict of the whole case was not guilty by the PB...contrary to the branchflower report...again...no dice.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, the final verdict, listing all the examples discovered during the course of the investigation, was Guilty as per the Branchflower Report. Whine all you want, it will not make it go away.
tgear77 1 year ago
@fbi10 The results of the Branchflower report led to the final verdict of the Alaskan Legislative Board: Guilty of Abuse of Authority on numerous accounts. You keep missing the point that there were 2 investigations that led to 2 findings. Yet the ALB finding carries more validity and authority than that of the Personnel Board. As for Colberg, acting on Palin's orders, he wanted to delay an investigation so not to hurt Palin in the election. The Legislature, correctly, ignored him.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Yes, i know that but again, after the investigation was continued by the personnel board, she was found not guilty, "overriding" the previous verdict. The ALB doesn't carry "more validity" or authority because if they did, she would have been charged!!! She wasn't. "delay an investigation" wasn't the case but to wait for the full legislature to be in session, which wasn't. Despite all that, she was still found not guilty of the previous charges, hence how nothing happened after LOL.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 It does not override the Legislative Board's verdict. That was entered into the Alaskan State Record. The PB investigation did not continue the original investigation. It was a separate investigation . She did try to delay the investigation, first by ordering her staff to ignore the appeals, then by trying to suggest the full Legislature had to be present, despite the Legislature setting up the 5-member panel to avoid such a feet-dragging tactic. Palin was found guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Yet, the FINAL verdict of the whoooooooooollllllle thing...NOT GUILTY. The legislature wasn't present at the time, they wanted to wait for them because the way the legislature were investigating the matter was suspect. However, still, they found her not guilty but the personnel board continued the investigation and found there was no abuse of power, and therefore, was found not guilty. The legislature is there to make laws not prosecute governors.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 The Legislature set up the 5-member bipartisan panel to run the investigation and announce the verdict. Colberg was running a delaying tactic. The Board announced the final verdict: guilty of abuse of authority. The Personnel Board ran a separate investigation, not a continuation. It did not begin until Palin lost in court to prevent her staff from cooperating with the Legislative Board investigation. Sorry, but you are wrong on everything, as always.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 yes yes spin spin, i understand what you are trying to do. And again, you seem to not understand the final conclusion of the whole case. She was found NOT GUILTY contrary to earlier findings (branchflower). Hence how nothing happened after...she was found not guilty..good look moving on. You're already been debunked. LOL!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Nothing happened to her because, under the laws of Alaska, there was nothing that could happen to her. Do some fucking research, you clueless moron. You have been debunked and you are too stupid to even know it.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 there was nothing that could happen to her because she was NOT GUILTY. there was nothing to charge her with as she didn't do anything wrong LOL. I did my research, no worries, it's you who should go back and look at the final conclusion to this whole thing and get it through your sick head that she's not guilty of abuse...but again...i'll say it...not guilty...LOL!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 The AL had no punishment to inflict under Alaskan law. The Personnel Board, at worst, could impose a $5000 fine. There was never anything that could happen to her, except to have this on "her permanent record". Which she does now because she was found guilty of repeated abuse of authority. The Branchflower Report, with its detailed accounts of her and her staff and the First Dude abusing the authority of the office will always show that she was guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 She was found not guilty. The first dude has every right to use the phone. Do you feel the same way when michelle obama does it? Probably not. Again, there's nothing of sorts that prove they abused power and the final verdict was NOT GUILTY. Good luck trying to grasp that...LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, Todd did not have the right to call over a dozen government employees to try and get Wooten fired. Again, he could call out for pizza, call home to check on the kids, call to get the score of the Washington State game, etc. But he could not try to pressure gov't employees. You are a fucking retard if you try and defend that. Palin was elected; Todd wasn't. And even Palin would have been in the wrong making those calls.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 He wasn't trying to get wooten fired either. Ok so michelle wasn't elected but she still uses the phone and tries to influence politicians to go her husbands way. Is that ok?
Todd was the first dude, he didn't abuse anything nor did Palin...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Todd Palin freely admits in his deposition that he wanted Wooten fired. Over a dozen state employees said that Todd pressured them to get Wooten fired. The head of the State Workman's Compensation Board reported (backed with phone records) of over a dozen calls from Todd, trying to convince her that Wooten filed fraudulently and should have charges brought against him. Todd was not elected, not part of the government, and all of it was abuse of the office. These are the facts.
tgear77 1 year ago
@fbi10 Having Todd make phone calls to people in the government from her office pressuring them to fire Wooten and to turn down his claims. That is abuse of authority. Despite being 'First Dude', Todd has no authority to open mail in her office, let alone contact gov't employees. That alone was enough to find her guilty. End of story. You are debunked.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Again, there was no proof of that. Todd never did that LOL Again, that's he say she say that. Liberal propaganda isn't fact lol...so i am sure that you are OUTRAGED how michelle obama uses obama's phone to make calls, etc, right? Even if Todd did that, todd had every right to use his wifes phone. He was the "first dude", just like michelle has the right to use the phones. You're right, end of story and you've been debunked. Good day, LOL!!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, there was and it is in the Brachflower report. It was not an abuse that Todd used the actual phone, moron. If he wanted to call the kids at home or even order pizza from the phone on her desk, fine. Some might frown that it was not proper decorum, but who cares? But he was not allowed to make calls from her office, or anywhere, to employees of the gov't to discuss Wooten. He had no position in the gov't. This is not propaganda, this is fact.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 The branchflower report wasn't the final conclusion to the whole case. Notice even with the legislature and the branchflower report found her "guilty" they couldn't do a thing because they don't have the power to. She was never charged PERIOD. The final proceedings and the final conclusion to this whole "political stunt" by the Left and Right in alaska to frame Palin on false charges was NOT GUILTY. There's no dancing around that. This is fact. So todd, as first dude has no right?LOL!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You are partially right. There was no legal avenue for prosecution under Alaskan law. That was why she was not punished. That does not make her innocent. It is the same as the police finding out you committed a crime, but after the Statute of Limitations has run out. You are still guilty, you just can not be prosecuted. She abused her authority repeatedly and was found guilty. That is the final verdict.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Actually it does make her innocent because again, she was found not guilty in the final conclusion of the whole case. She was found "guilty" in the branchflower report but after further investigation by APC...NOT GUILTY, contrary to earlier findings. Case closed, you've been debunked...AGAIN. lmao!!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Wow! You really drink the Kool-Aid. Once again, this was not a furthering of the investigation. These were two separate investigations. The one that was conducted properly found her guilty and details the abuses. The one that was done half-assed to try and help her save face does not cancel out the first. You can't change history. Palin was found guilty.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 I didn't realize proving the facts was "drinking the kool-aid" but if it does ok. What AL and branchflower found doesn't mean a thing but the final verdict does and the what the final verdict read was "NOT GUILTY". I am not changing history, you just seem to try and ignore it. Good luck on that.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Buying into everything Palin is drinking the kool-aid. The Branchflower report is the final word on the subject since it covered far more than the PB whitewash. She was found guilty, the world knows it and nothing that the kiss-ass PB report did changed anything. Palin, Todd, Colberg and others were all shown to abused the power of the office. No changing that. Truth bites you in the ass again.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 apparently it isn't because she wasn't charged with anything after nor did anything else happened. The PB was the final verdict, move on...you're done. They never even showed abuse of power LOL!! Again, nice try but no dice.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Under Alaskan law, she could not be charged with anything. Doesn't mean she is innocent. The worst thing that could have happened was a $5000 fine, but only the PB could assign that. Are you pretending to be this stupid or are you really so mentally deficient that you can't accept the facts?
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 She wasn't charged with anything because she was found not guilty.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 She wasn't charged with anything because she could not be charged under Alaskan law. The only punishment that could have been put upon her was a $5000 fine by the Personnel Board. If you had any knowledge of the law, you would know that not being charged is not the same as being innocent. You really are clueless.
tgear77 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, page 239 does not say that. Emails sent by the GOP say that page 239 says that, but it actually does not. You citing that here shows that you don't actually bother with research but get all your info from the right wing blogs and websites. Page 239 actually deals with part of the Social Security Act that defines physicians services and deals with billing by doctors. IT has nothing to do with the actual care provided. Debunked again. You must be used to getting shown up by now.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Page 239, just like the death panel in section 4001, the Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid and medicare. Seniors and the poor most affected. That's what it is. LOL! No it doesn't deal with just "billing by doctors" but how the care will be provided for medicare patients as well. You haven't debunked a thing . This bill will require rationing, another sort of "death panel", which is what Palin was talking about. It's FACT not fiction.
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: hence why even his own party, the democrats didn't even want to vote for it. This bill is an official disaster and unpopular among the majority of americans. Obama's mean goal with all this is to establish a public option and then, eventually, a single payer system that doesn't even work for the countries that don't have it: Hence england and france. You failed....AGAIN. haha!
fbi10 1 year ago
and also, hence why they took out some of the "death panels" in the final bill when people started to find out about them and read for themselves on the internet. LOL! and yet, there are still in there.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 That has never stopped you before.
tgear77 1 year ago
@fbi10 You sound more and more like a moron when you talk. So palin had a special case that she needed to worrie about the lawsuit and her lawyer like everyone eles who fights a case can not show up for her? and that she need to fight the case everyday while she was in office. so her staff is the lawyer now? LOL!! WOW why would they need to do that? Taxpayer never had to pay for her case dumbass! You bought some dumbass line from palin that nobody in america belived. Your a dumbass! For real!
phuture101 1 year ago
@phuture101 It was everyone in her cabinet. No just the lawyer. Yes, taxpayer money was used: Freedom of information act, where they tied up her office with requests of transcripts, papers, and they did it on purpose. Money was used to hire more help in the offices to finding all the information. Workers were spending hours preparing papers. They weren't working for the governor anymore but wasting time and money. The state of alaska was crushed by paper work, done on purpose to stop her from
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: governing and eventually get her impeached and ruin her political career. Liberals are mad because they failed at that and now she is more powerful than before...You liberals got so pathetic that you filed an ethic complaint because she was wearing her husbands jacket at an iron dog race. Lets get some education for you, you dumb ass: the governor of alaska, which you know NOTHING about, doesn't have a special fund for legal defense. The AG doesnt defend the governor. Any legal fees comes
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: from the governors pocket, hence the 27 ethic complaints brought against her by liberals trying to bankrupt her. That's why a legal defense fund was put in place for her behalf. It was set up the same way john kerry's fund was set up, which was ok for him because he's a liberal. then, a liberal attorney found the fund against alaskan law while she was governor.luckly, no money was spent on any of palins fees. So, now she has a new defense fund that no one can touch. Go back to school..LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, she was using a quote from John Wooden Legs but she thought she was using one by John Wooden. There is no spin here. They have even proven how she got the quote wrong. Again, you have failed.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Yes, i agree, she was using a quote from john wooden legs. Did you not look up the quote in the book too? No she wasn't...plus according to you, she didn't even write her book, so how is it her fault?? LOL. The quote isn't wrong...just one word was missing...legs LOL ooh no it's the end of the world...no legs LOL!!!! You're pathetic
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yet Palin went around telling everyone how Coach Wooden's quote meant so much to an "old point guard" like her. Palin did not know where the quote came from but that didn't stop her from crediting it to the wrong source. No, it is not the end of the world. But if you are going to make fun of Obama for a verbal gaffe, then turnabout is fair play.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 And where did she go telling that to everyone?? yea, again, great stuff making this crap up. It must not take a lot of brain power...or for that matter...brain LOL.The quote is fine...she forgot to write legs...oh big whoop...again youre making a big deal just to try and prove something that isn't true.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 At her book signings when she was asked about the quote. She didn't forget to write anything. She got the quote wrong and never double checked it. I'm not making a big deal about this: it's just further proof of her stupidity. But you will try and 'refudiate' that one.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 How did she get the quote wrong?? You're making a big deal about, you stupid ass LOL! Because they forgot to write "legs"? and wait minute, didn't you say this book is ghostwritten?? So how could Palin make the mistake if she didn't write?? LOL! You're an idiot. You didn't prove she is stupid, you liberals always think conservatives are stupid but in fact YOU'RE the stupid ones. Every time you critize her on unimportant issues, you really show how stupid liberals really are.
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: You guys can't get her on her brilliant governing skills so you pick on the minutia. She had an 88 percent approval rating at the time mccain choose her as VP and you liberals can't stand the fact she's BETTER than obama. She's the only one out of the 4 candidate's that had any executive experience and you liberals can't STAND it. Well, continue enjoying the downfall of your precious obama get ready for PRESIDENT PALIN. LOL!!!!
*criticize *
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 She's also the only one who quit her job to chase a buck. And isn't it amazing how that approval rating plummeted once those checks stopped coming in the mail and she embarrassed all of Alaska on the campaign trail? President Palin??LOL!!! is right.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 she never quit her job to chase a buck. She could have made the same money in office as out. I already debunked this weak sauce of an argument. LOL! Again, the only one that embarrassed someone during the campaign was the media with all it's lies about palin (hence, the beat down i gave you....LOL), but that's ok...you know what, i hope romney does run and gets beaten by obama...4 more years of failed stimulus, government take over, and obama numbers keep getting lower. Go for it.LOL!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 "She could have made the same money in office..." So when did the Alaskan taxpayers start paying their Governor $100,000 an appearance to give a speech? When did the taxpayers authorize a 3-week leave of absence for a book tour that would net her almost $700,000? When you make comments like that, you only show the world how stupid you really are? And it was the media's fault that Palin couldn't give the proper answers to questions or speak coherently or stop lying about herself? Moron!
tgear77 1 year ago
@dumbshittgear77 She got the book deal before the resignation, and would have made the same money, already debunked you low life scum bag of a liberal....i take craps smarter than you LOL i was talking about the book deal numb nuts LOL. all the details for the book were already accepted and the book was due later, i believe February. she gave perfect answers, i guess your IQ is so low that even a person who speaks normal is too complex for you to understand, you swamp insect lol
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, she would have had the same advance. But the money from the book tour, the increased royalties from sales generated from the media blitz she went on, the money from speaking engagements, etc... she would not have made that money had she remained in office. So now you have shown that you have no idea how the publishing industry works. Why am i not surprised? And no, she did not give 'prefect answers'. Listen to her answer to Couric on the economy. Fey quoted it word for word on SNL.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 The book deal was done before palin left office. It was set for release spring of 2010 with all the political issues (with lawyers, Alaskan constitution, and the alaskan personnel board) all gave her the green light. On couric (which is the only source you keep going back to, also, it was proven she took out Palin's answers such as fannie and freddie) was correct as well. You talking about the bailout question? Ok, please quote the answer...tell me what's wrong with it.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 It is not that they forgot to write "Legs"; they attributed the quote to a totally different person. That would be the same as attributing a quote by George Washington Carver to George Washington. Palin even went on about how Coach Wooden's words were so meaningful to an old point guard like her. As for the ghostwriter, Lynn Franklin, perhaps she did make the mistake. But Palin sure took credit for using the quote, so she gets the blame as well.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 You've already been refudiated, i don't need to do it anymore. You make things up and lie, but continue, your creditability is already melting away. How about when obama filed for affirmative action to get into Columbia under a fake name? How do you know what his grades are? Are those his daughters or Bill Ayers? Why was Michelle's lawyer licences taken away? Is it because she's a racist like her husband? why did Michelle Ok the dropping off of patients anywhere in her last job?
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You claim that I make things up and then fill the whole post with made up claims by you. Talk about hypocrisy. But you are too stupid to realize it.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 How do you know they are made up? is it just because i am talking about your precious obama? Liberal lies aren't facts but just that...lies...you gave me lie after lie and when i start to play your own game, you don't like it. You're such a ignorant hypocrite LOL!! Typical liberal idiot...LOL...what a bitch...LOL!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 For instance: Michelle Obama's license to practice law was not taken away. Obama attended Columbia under the name 'Barack Obama'. Are their daughters really Ayers'? I don't know: is Trig really Bristol's? As crazy as that Andrew Sullivan-fueled theory is, there is more evidence to support his claim than your claim about Ayers. You are the ignorant hypocrite. And it is not even about Political lines: You are so far gone into the Myth of Sarah that you will defend her anything she says.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 michelle obama's license got taken away because shes a racist :) obama faked his name and birthplace, he was born in china/kenya..YOU PICK. Bill ayers gave his 2 black children up for adoption and the obamas, with baracks 'cojones' problem, couldnt create another scum bag like him....ayers had the answers. you hypocrite, his evidence is all assumptions, you would do a better job at this if you just copied his palin list of lies, you rat LOL. you still have nothing on palin you dumb shit
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Wrong again. Michelle Obama gave up her license to practice in order to start a family. Unlike the Right Wing claims, she was not forced to step down and never faced disciplinary charges from the bar. Obama uses his birth name and was born in Honolulu. The Ayers lie is right up there with Bristol being Trig's mom. You are truly a fucking moron.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 LMAO!!! GAVE UP HER LICENSE TO PRACTICE IN ORDER TO START A FAMILY??? LOL!!!!!! Whoa, your ignorance is hilarious. She got her license suspended and sealed because she doesn't want people to know what happened (like everything else they sealed like his school records...) Obama still hasn't shown legit proof that he was born in Honolulu. I asked you to choose between china or kenya as his birthplace...choose one. Ayers spends time with the kids on fridays...true liberal fact. LOL!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, she did not. The Illinois State Bar Association has even issued a statement to shut down that ugly rumor (and we know what a big fan you are of statements). In order to stop practicing law in Illinois (and stop having to pay bar fees and malpractice insurance) a lawyer must go before a judge and ask to have their license suspended. Michelle Obama voluntarily gave up her license without any actions taking against. Once more you are 'refudiated'.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 If so why is it sealed?
Michelle was under court order to give up her license and is not allowed to practice law in Illinois, period. Remember what you write about this (which is false either way) and when a republican does this, you're going to support them as well, right?
ARDC - Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois changed the status,for discipline reasons...not for those volunteering to stop practicing. You didn't refudiate a thing...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, but again, you are wrong. There is no evidence anywhere in Illinois of any disciplinary action taken against Michelle Obama. She, in fact, has a 'voluntary inactive' license (as opposed to her husband's 'voluntary retired' license) which means that she could start practicing law again anytime she chooses to in Illinois. All the ARDC did in regards to this is change her status on their register. Once again (as always) you are wrong.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 There is proof, this ADRC is for discipline reasons...not for those volunteering to stop practicing. It is COURT ORDERED...not "Michelle Obama ordered." Their website is very clear about their function and why they step in. She wanted this to 'go away" fast and furious and the details not come out in depositions, courtroom documents, rulings for the client/plaintiffs...etc.. Again, The ARDC specifically states that it only handles discplinary actions and not the normal inactive requests
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, the ADRC keeps a register for all attorneys in the State. That is the only time Michelle Obama's name comes up in the ADRC records. There was no disciplinary actions taken against her. Nice job parroting again. You do know that you can actually find all of this out at the source instead of having to repeat lies.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 The ARDC is Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, like i already stated. The ADRC got involved only for discipline reasons...not for those volunteering to stop practicing. It is COURT ORDERED...not "Obama ordered." It states that on it's website. LOOK AT THEIR WEBSITE LOL!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: like it states very clearly: "Our principal purpose is to assist the Supreme Court to determine a lawyer's fitness to practice law in Illinois. If a complaint is made that an attorney, licensed to practice law in Illinois, has engaged in illegal, unethical or dishonest conduct, we will investigate and, if warranted, bring formal disciplinary charges..."
fbi10 1 year ago
cont: "The Supreme Court of Illinois will then ultimately decide if a lawyer should be censured (publicly rebuked), suspended (having the law license to practice either taken away for a certain period of time or placed on a probationary period) or disbarred (having the law license taken away indefinitely). "
-from their website...
You've been refudiated...
dumb ass liberal piece of shit...LOL!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Look at their very name, you moron. The ARDC keeps the registry of lawyers for the state of Illinois. After Michelle Obama went inactive, the Registry got involved by changing her status on their site. That was it. There were no disciplinary charges brought against her. Show me one iota of proof that there was. You can't. You are trying to make a change in the Registry into a disciplinary charge. LOL!
tgear77 1 year ago
@fbi10 No, you have not. You only think you have. Palin was wrong. The video with her own words betraying her is here on youtube. You and Palin are both wrong.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Palin wasn't wrong. Again, you didn't prove a damn thing, while i have. Get over it.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, she was wrong. Yes, I have proved it. Yes, you are in serious denial over your goddess' innate stupidity. No, you have not proved anything. Yes, you are a brain-dead idiot.
tgear77 1 year ago
@fbi10 There are copies of the letters sent to the Governor about her needing to provide a copy of Trig's BC in order for him to be put on the insurance plan. These continue up until her resignation. Why didn't she put Trig on the plan? I don't know about Obama's daughters. Why don't you go find out since that is not relevant here. And, yes, just because you have a child does not mean that it is automatically on the insurance plan. Again, you are clueless.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Sources?
I never said it was automatically on the insurance plan. Please tell me where I said that?? LOL. Again, you keep typing liberal bs without sources...LOL! It is you who is clueless. Where are the birth certificate of obama's daughters? Oh it's relevant to the whole topic here. Don't dodge. Where are their BC's? Are they Obama's daughters? hmmmm
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You implied it by saying "Does she even have to? She's the mother." And, no, the BCs for Obama's daughters are not relevant here because there is no evidence that they are being kept off the White House health insurance coverage. As for sources, do your own research. It took me minutes to find this. Are you admitting that you are too dumb to do the research yourself? I'd believe it. So why won't Palin show that Trig (the cruely named child) is her child?
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 It does. There is no evidence either that Trig isn't covered by their insurance either. LOL. Where are the BC for obama's kids as well? they might not be his kids either. I mean, how do we know that they are under their government plan, like Palin. Really it took u minutes and yet even while typing this you could have gave me a source? So trig is a bad name too? So why won't obama show us that those are his kids too?
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 IF he was, then why did they keep asking for his BC so that they could put him on the insurance coverage? And you don't even understand why Trig is a cruel name? You're clueless.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Who's they? And you know their insurance plan? really?? LOL!! Do you know where he got his name from? apparently, the only one clueless here is you LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Palin's son suffers from Down Syndrome. There are 7 forms of the Syndrome, each resulting from a third chromosome attached to the original pair in the gene sequence. This is known as Trisomy. In Europe, the seven forms are referred to by the number of the original chromosome pair. The most common form, responsible for 95% of all cases including Palin's son, is Trisomy 21. But in North America, doctors refer to the various form by letter, ranging from A to G. Palin's son suffers from...
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 (cont) Trisomy-G, or as it is written in medical shorthand, Tri-G. Palin named her son after the genetic abnormality he suffers from. Isn't that a class act? Now I know you will try and spin this, just like Palin's people did. They tried to say that she got it from a Scandanavian word for 'truth', except the word they used was spelled that way. You'll try some bullshit to, but there is no way to spin this other than her horrible parenting skills.
tgear77 1 year ago
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@tgear77 Whoa, just when i think you can't say anything even more classless you go on and attack a little kid. Liberals have no bounds and honestly, you're pathetic. LIke i already said, she didn't name her kid after what he suffers from, you fool, they named their son after his great uncle, a Bristol Bay fisherman, while the name Paxson, his 1st middle name, comes from the well-known snowmachining area. You're PATHETIC and debunked AGAIN...you loser LOL!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 I am not attacking the kid. I have nothing against the child. I am attacking the Palins for being so horrible in naming their child. Yes, I have seen their pathetic defense about some great-uncle. Problem is that no one can find any trace of such a person. They won't even give him a last name. Is he a Heath or from the mother's side of the family? Then they tried to say it was an old Scandinavian name, but that is actually 'Tryggve'. So let's see: Palin has a child that suffers from...
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 (cont) Trisomy-G, or Tri-G. When the child is born she gives him the name Trig. What is more likely: that she named him after the medical term or after a relative that never existed? This from the parents who named their oldest child after a sport that Grandpa used to coach. Good thing Grandpa never coached Volleyball.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 after a relative because those are the FACTS. oooh a relative that never existed??? LOL riiiiight, go back to reading your fairy tales by andrew Sullivan you low life scum bag piece of shit LOL im not calling names...so dont get offended...im just telling you, if you forgot, what you are....LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You don't realize Palin quit her job as govenor to make money! She saw on campaining with McCain how much she was liked and she realized that being govenor was not where the money was at. So she quit for the money, she wrote that book which had nothing in it for money! She is living the american dream right now! But please know that she does not care about this country as much as you think.She would not be that misinformed on issues and She already quit on voters in alaska. Wake Up!
phuture101 1 year ago
@phuture101 She got the book deal while she was governor and it was set to realse the following year in spring 2010. Leaving office to make money is a strawman argument that's already debunked. She wasn't misinformed on issues,she beat biden in the debate LOL! Nice try....
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 She got the book deal then quit right. She was govenor and when she found out how much she was making on the book and she would make more when she did the tour because she can charge for speaking at those teabagger partys. She was making more money then she would make as govenor of alaska. Thats a fact! Stop trying to make her a saint when she did it for money and there nothing wrong with that! Just quit trying to convince people she cares about them and it's really the money she wants.
phuture101 1 year ago
@phuture101 she would have made the same amount of money if she stayed governor as well. However, instead of November, the book would have hit stores spring 2010. THIS is fact. Thank for your hate language on the tea partiers by calling them "tea baggers", proves to me how hypocritical you are LOL!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 So far, no one has found any record of this mysterious great-uncle. So what do you think the odds would be in Vegas on Palin actually having a family member with the same name as the condition her son suffers from? And why would she name her child after such a relative knowing her son's condition? Hhhhmmmm, makes you wonder how loopy she really is. And how stupid you are for supporting her.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 oh please, get off your broken down horse. There is proof you idiot. and just for your information, your whole assumption that she named her child after his condition is broken as there is NO proof of that, you lowlife scum bag. The only one stupid here is the one ATTACKING and making up lies about the origins of the babies name, trying to attack palin by her baby...youre such a lowlife and you damn right i'll support her from idiots like you. how stupid you are for supporting obama LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 There is no proof that she named her child after anything else. The whole 'grand-uncle' story would actually make sense if they could provide some proof of this person ever existing. They haven't even given him a name. And again, what are the odds that her son would suffer from Tri-G and she would just so happen to name him after someone or something else without realizing it? If I had a child with Hansen's disease, would I name him Hansen? No, that would be cruel.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Yes there is, their grand-uncle, according to the grandfather...so you have their family tree on your wall?? Again, arguing Andrew Sullivan point, which is already debunked, doesn't help your case and actually even hinting this is fucking classless at it's finest...you're a real scum bag piece of shit and you should be ashamed...you're ignorant liberal hypocrite LOL! damn...you amaze me. You have no proof for your claims but i do (grandfather's word> )...you're sick...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Yes, the Palin family keeps saying that he was named after "a grand-uncle who was a fisherman around Bristol Bay". That is the entirety of the information that they have given. Yet no one can find any proof of such a person ever existing. So if Palin's father told you the sun was blue, you would start arguing that it was proof of a blue sun? We have a woman with a history of giving her children bizarre names giving the name Trig to a child suffering from Tri-G. And now, ...
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 (cont) all of the sudden, she has a distant family member with that name. What are the odds? Yet even if she did have this mysterious relative, why would anyone be so cruel as to name their child that? No matter how you spin this, she wound up naming a baby with Tri-G Trig? You honestly think that was a wise choice?
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 so you know their family tree by heart? You know their family tree better than they do?? Yes i do because it's their kid and they can name Trig after a grand uncle all they want. It has NOTHING to do with anything we've discussed. You're look for andrew suillivan to help you out on this debate, trying to find something else on her but YOU ARE FAILING. And, attacking a fucking kid...you're pathetic...how would you like it if someone did that to yours? Pathetic, LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 So just show me one reference to this grand uncle. Because people have looked for him and they have found no trace of this mystery granduncle. And I am not attacking a kid. I am pointing out the cruelty of his parents. Because even if we accept their fake story about a grand uncle named Trig, they were still giving that name to a child that suffers from Tri-G. You obviously see nothing wrong with that which proves how much of a Kool Aid drinker you are.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 But you see, there is no cruelty because you have no case or evidence of this LOL.You are attacking a kid you idiotic scum bag LOL! The trace are the family members who confirm this. Again, you have no basis for your arguments nor facts but assumptions. Fake story? It hasn't been proven to be fake. Again, i see nothing wrong with it because Trig is named after a family member. Prove me otherwise. Again, attacking the kid and using Andrew Sullivan as a source is fucking hilarious LOL!!!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Sorry, but you are too ignorant to see that I am not attacking Trig, I am attacking Palin. You are the idiot here. The family has not provided anything; they have just perpetuated the lie. I am not using Andrew Sullivan as a source. He is too much of a loose cannon for me. I am using Palin herself as a source. Show me one trace of this mysterious grand-uncle and I will admit I am wrong all over this thread. Until then, shut up about things you are clueless about.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 You're attack Palin on false claims. plain and simple. I gave you names of different people with the same name. Your whole basis on with your argument is failed and illogical. Again, i don't need to prove a thing to you if this grand uncle existed because this whole attack is flawed. Palin, as a source, stated the name means strength, brave, or victory. So claiming this is argument of yours comes from palin herself is flawed as well. U need to prove that your claims are facts, not i.LOL
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 "Palin, as a source..." So now she is a source. So when I say otherwise, that makes me a source as well. What great logic you use. No, Palin claimed it was a family name and that was why it was used. When the flap continued, her people issued the statement about the entomology of the name. Then it was pointed out that they weren't using the correct spelling of the word. So then came the second statement, which you plagiarized. And all of this still does not change the initial....
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 (cont) problem. Her child suffers from a genetic malformation known as Tri-G. So out of all the names out there, why would any mother subject her child to a name that is the same as his condition? If Piper was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer and given a year to live, would Palin insist everyone call her brave little daughter "Cancer" until the end? Until someone proves the existence of this mystery great-uncle who fished Bristol Bay, Palin's story of naming her son after him is ...
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 (cont) suspicious at best and fictional at the worst. Given the facts that are known the odds are more likely that she got the name from his condition. But no matter how it all plays out, it is a cruel choice of a name to give her son. No one can spin it otherwise.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 There is no spin LOL. Other people have the same name as well...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Which means nothing to this argument. But you are too dumb to realize that.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 oh but it does. The name...it's a name for crying out loud LOL!!! Btw, you still haven't proved that she didn't name Trig after his Grand uncle, etc...good luck finding a source from Andrew Sullivan....a douche bag that even his own staff calls "deranged"...
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Again, even if this grand uncle exists, it is still unimaginably cruel to name a child suffering from Tri-G Trig. That you cannot grasp that shows how far you have your head up Palin's ass.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Again, the only thing that is cruel here is you trying to connect Trigs name to what he suffers from..which is classless and pathetic all together. It's a name, just like the rest of the people with the same name...grow up douche bag, LOL!
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 He suffers from Tri-G and they named him Trig. What is the obvious conclusion? Especially since her other claims can not be proven.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 And where do you get that he suffers from Tri-g? Where did you get that from?
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 Palin herself, as well as numerous other sources. My god, you are a moron.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Ok, Palin herself: show me where she said Tri-G.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 The kid has Down Syndrome, which means he has trisomy. 95% of all cases of trisomy are Trisomy-G, or Tri-G. The other 5% have symptoms that Trig does not possess. Trig suffers from Tri-G. You can't dance around this one with semantics.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 Ok, show me where she named him after his condition.
fbi10 1 year ago
@fbi10 You are insane. We all know that she has never admitted such a thing. Yet as soon as she realized that people had caught on to it, out came the press releases and the mysterious grand-uncle that no one can find any trace of. But, once again, even if this relative existed, it is still cruel to name your child Trig when he suffers from Tri-G. That you can not see this just proves that you will accept any lie she tells you.
tgear77 1 year ago
@tgear77 ok so if she never admitted it then why are you spreading these lies around about her kid???? would you like it if someone were doing this about your own child?? Again, what he suffers from and what he is named have no impact or connection...you are delusional
fbi10 1 year ago