sorry, there is no way that evo was racing. a completely stock evo9 dyno's at about 220-230whp. so even if it was untouched that evo (if racing) was to be atleast side by side with the s2k. now u claim that the evo has a 20g. lmao. untouched that would be about 235-250whp (running slightly lean on top) the evo would've def pulled on the s2k. i have a 03evo8 with int/exh and i make 300whp easily. my bestfriend owns a ap1. haven't had the chance to check it out as yet. but it's a pretty sweet car.
id pick the evo any day... i do have an 06 evo mr se, im spikking at 26 and tappering down to around 23 on stock wga. stock tune you are looking at somewhere around 17 to 19 psi
the S2k is a nice car but i wouldnt drive it, comparing the two seems to be unfair anyway, one is a family four door salon while the other is a small two seater with a LOT of power under the bonnet
wow sweetkhmerxtac... you re an idiot.. ok first off the evo does have a stock turbo and that is why it's faster than a s2k. BUT picture this... what if it doesnt.. it would pretty much be a piece of shit just like the lancer... S2k has much more potiencial and who said that boosted s2k cant beat an evo? my SC s2k spanked an evo 9 all day... and that evo is my friend...
WHOA WHOA WHOA... I shit on Boosted and S/C S2K ALL DAY!! ALL DAY! Doesn't mean I sit and talk shit about them. Your friend needs to learn how to drive.. And S2'ks don't have MUCH MORE POTENTIAL than a Evo.. Your comparing a F20C or a F22C to the 4g63?? WTF.. Find me a F20C that runs 6's in the quarter mile END OF STORY.
First of all, out of the box both of these motors have a peak threshold of around 400whp in stock form with proper tuning. I don't think anyone would disagree that the 4g63 probably has an advantage do to the fact that it is born as a turbo motor. There are examples of f20/22c's out there running over 500whp on stock motors but they are few and far between.
Put a shitty single cam turbo in a walmart go kart and run 10s for 2k. lol we are talking about real cars here. And stop typing in caps. You look stupid.
your excuse when a less class automobile beats up on the car, when you guys rave about how race ready bla bla bla 9,000 RPM bla, autocross bla bla... if they were SO uncomparable then why in the world are the two cars so often on the track at the SAME time unless it is a official event? The bottom line is, at the track stock for stock... EVO and s2000 are close, drag, not even close, dyno, not even close, dirt, snow, anything besides tarmac...
hell even RAIN it's not even close... MOD catagory is the same song just turned up louder, a identical WHP EVO vs. s2000 of the same HP in the mod catagory, the Evolution will STILL take it
maybe im not fully getting what you are saying but, when SAME poweroutput Evo vs s2k in drag race(not from dig ofcourse), s2k will win. lighter, better aerodynamic, less wheel to distribute power, better topend gearing.
Why is everyone complaining? The evo is better stock vs. stock. You throw a bigger turbo onto the s2k and then beat the evo and everyone talks shit about the evo? IGNORANT PPL! How the hell does that make any sense. How many lbs of boost can a stock block s2k push? NO WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THE EVO. For those that dont know, dont pretend you know. If you have no facts about either cars, dont pretend you know. s2k's are great cars, but to compare it to a legendary car. There is no way.
Wow your ignorance shines though your epic failure.... To come on here ranting your mouth like you know WTF your talking about when I could go on for months how the s2000 is technologically superior to that 4wd shopping cart. Ohh wow we can't push more psi than an evo.... NO DUUUH its called 11.1 compression ratio genius. The car was never designed to go boost, it was made to spank EVO's and ect. on everything else except a strait line.... An by the way someone is making 701RWHP on stock block.
s2k techno crap is nothing special to talk about..whats so good about it? compression ratio isn't everything dumb fuck. There are evos with 13:1 with stock turbos. Come back when you learn something. A s2k isnt designed to boost but losers still do it..why? cuz you need it to even compare to an evo..fag
OHHH wooow you know someone that runs 13:1 on a stock turbo wooptie freakiiing doooooooo!!!! and what like fu(king ethanol 110+octane? Who gives a crap i bet he detonates that motor regularly and its a pure built race car. I bet just for that $hit to run its timing is retarded so bad. You can make ANY motor and make ANY power as long as your wallet is deep enough!!! But you cant make any car handle and respond like an S2000 dollar for dollar... Go read a book
dollar for dollar. LOL, please. s2k is pathetic. Boosted s2k can't even beat a basic bolt on evo. Whats the fastest s2k in the 1/4. LOL, How many use s2ks around a track and actually win something, look up any competition around the US. S2k is no where to be found. Worthless, Impractical and just shitty compared to other performance cars. If the s2k were so good, how come 2009 is the last year. LOL, weak shit. Out for 10 years and gone. F20c is dead, while the evo lives on. LOL.
10yrs is freaking long yrs since it was originally hondas anniversary car that was only meant to be produced for 1yr. but instead of 1yr, it went for fucking 10YEARS!!!!. that guarantees how desirable, well built, and popular this car was. evo still goes on? LMFAO they change trim and model of evo like every 1-2yr. s2000 had very minor or minimum change during last 10yr. it basically had no change beside .2displacement of an engine. also, s2k domintates auto X and NA 4cylinder class on tracks.
Grow the fuck up all you little punks talking tough online. Everyone talking tough online is a little bitch. Real men don't have to. Big fucking deal you all have different opinions. Get a fucking life.
Thats why they do run the same amount of boost still right? Of course alot of boost doesnt always mean alot of power, but it does help. 14psi vs. 28psi. Huge difference.
Any real race that is official, the evo will win. Racing from a roll doesn't prove much, just power to weight ratio and different gearing. Who has the fastest track time at buttonwillow? An Evo or S2k? Who has a faster 1/4 mile time? Who races in road courses and rally? Who can carry 5 adult passangers comfortably?
no thats not why s2k runs same amount of boost as evo. who told you it runs much boost as evo? 14psi vs. 28psi? yes it is huge difference as in mass. but 14psi s2k and 28psi evo pushes about same power lol
also, record holding evo or anyother cars are heavily modified. when cars become modded, it all ends up with who got deeper pocket. Driver is big concern too. also race from a roll could mean lot of thing. why don't you say its useless in front of multi- million nascar fan.
I'll agree with out a little bit... BUT Boost levels doesn't matter.. THe size of the turbo matters. For Example.. Stock 9 Evo turbos need to be around 24-26 PSI to hand with a GT35R stock evo at 16-18 psi. Now if that 35R was at 24-26 The Stock Turbo 9 would get it's doors blown off.
So mnay people who are nut swingers on this site...lets talk reality....
First off, both great cars and each catagory.
but a EVO will still hand a S2000 its ass.
put the same size turbo in that evo, and see the outcome. The stock block is known to handle 600whp. You guys act like the evo has some big ass turbo stock.
wtf a 20g is not a big turbo by any means. It's the same stock 16g turbo modded with a bigger wheel that comes on the motherfucking stock evo. Learn your facts you dumb fuck.
aww poor evo owner is butt hurt. I know more about cars then you ever will. A 20g upgrade on an evo is an UPGRADE. If the S even had a 16g on the same PSI as a stock evo (18-19) it would still destroy it. My S with gears can keep up with a stock evo, I have no boost. Evos are garbage. Face it. "Dumb Fuck"
talking about haters. LOL. Also, I really dont think that evo had a 20g. No car with a bigger turbo from a roll would pull that fast against a 20g. stock evos dont push 18-19 psi either. Your also admitting stock vs. stock the evo is better? Where are your facts on why evos are garbage? Because you were raised they were? ignorant ppl like you dont deserve a car like the s2k.
wow you are fuckin retarded arent you? F20c>4g63T. Yes they do push 18lbs stock. I used to have one!! Jesus Christ people are dumb on here... Dont reply you stupid 14 year old kid. Go back to playing need for speed.
exactly my point, your a dumb fuck like everyone else. READ my question again. How many lbs of boost can a stock block s2k push? NO WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THE EVO! tell me fastfag. How much boost can a stock block evo push again. LOL DUMB ASS! its 20lbs. How many F20c's broke 7's. NONE. Whats the fastest s2k? 8.8? bitch evos already broke that. STUPID PRICK. That 8.8 was also with a 2jz swap, because the F20c is not good period. I alwasy knew honda had dreams about toyota because its better.
uhh with a head gasket a stock f20c can push 25+ lbs. Wow you really do not know anything do you? Without a head gasket (compression reasons only) I have seen 16lbs on a stock f20c. My evo has a DP, full exhaust, boost controller, and hks 272 cams btw. You really know nothing about cars do you? Evo fanboy
you dont have an evo. 16lbs is no where near what evos can do. When I say stock, I mean not even touching the block period. not opening it up to add anything. I've seen 25-27psi on a f20c with 700whp. but it was built obviously. 27psi is decent, but not comparable to an evo.
you had an evo, I bet it was an 8 and you thought it was like a N/A car and just added random parts huh? stupid shit. I bet you never got a tune to really open it up huh? LOL. basic bolt ons and no tune? its a good thing you dont have an evo anymore. its an embarassment.
Damm well know that the Honda S2000 was modified. An intake and some stickers on that Honda?? Lol... Yea right! What else did the Honda have under the hood?
is your s2000 stock? being a honda engineer, i do love hondas but i don't know if it's faster than the Evo 9 MR. i've driven the s2000 and know it's ins and outs but please do tell what is modified. even though it gets only around 20mpg from a little 4 banger, it's still a great car though. :)
Hey TurboNFRStwok! Of course since you own an s2000, you know that it only takes 91 octane or higher. Either your lieing about ownership or your just plain dumb.
Oh boy!!! You have a cobra radar detector. You must be ballin with all the falses. I stopped watching after that cause its pointless if you're that dumb to buy a cobra.
Funny i never have a problem with false alarms with mine. So if that was the only thing you could come up with then you are a sorry excuse for a human being and your mother should have taken you in the mouth. Maybe for the sake of everyone you should go kill yourself. Im done with you internet warrior, please find me on the streets and we can let our cars do the talking, that is if you even have one.
lol i just relized that you didnt even watch the right video dumbass. That was a mustang and a 3000GT racing smartone. You really should go kill yourself.
I hate cocky drivers -.-'
DeevyC 2 months ago
he doesnt have a 20g on there.. cus 20g evo9 will eat s2k anyday..
noypipride84 4 months ago
sorry, there is no way that evo was racing. a completely stock evo9 dyno's at about 220-230whp. so even if it was untouched that evo (if racing) was to be atleast side by side with the s2k. now u claim that the evo has a 20g. lmao. untouched that would be about 235-250whp (running slightly lean on top) the evo would've def pulled on the s2k. i have a 03evo8 with int/exh and i make 300whp easily. my bestfriend owns a ap1. haven't had the chance to check it out as yet. but it's a pretty sweet car.
yresistme 1 year ago
id pick the evo any day... i do have an 06 evo mr se, im spikking at 26 and tappering down to around 23 on stock wga. stock tune you are looking at somewhere around 17 to 19 psi
the S2k is a nice car but i wouldnt drive it, comparing the two seems to be unfair anyway, one is a family four door salon while the other is a small two seater with a LOT of power under the bonnet
koukiguy 2 years ago
lol u make it seem like a 2.0L inline 4 is a huge engine.
iRnoCracker 2 years ago
haha.. byebye evo 0:14
harrispablo 2 years ago
and btw the S3000 is coming out..
chevron32 2 years ago
@chevron32 no its not...Honda officially said NO
BlueMetalS2k 1 year ago
wow sweetkhmerxtac... you re an idiot.. ok first off the evo does have a stock turbo and that is why it's faster than a s2k. BUT picture this... what if it doesnt.. it would pretty much be a piece of shit just like the lancer... S2k has much more potiencial and who said that boosted s2k cant beat an evo? my SC s2k spanked an evo 9 all day... and that evo is my friend...
chevron32 2 years ago
WHOA WHOA WHOA... I shit on Boosted and S/C S2K ALL DAY!! ALL DAY! Doesn't mean I sit and talk shit about them. Your friend needs to learn how to drive.. And S2'ks don't have MUCH MORE POTENTIAL than a Evo.. Your comparing a F20C or a F22C to the 4g63?? WTF.. Find me a F20C that runs 6's in the quarter mile END OF STORY.
SpecVchild 2 years ago
First of all, out of the box both of these motors have a peak threshold of around 400whp in stock form with proper tuning. I don't think anyone would disagree that the 4g63 probably has an advantage do to the fact that it is born as a turbo motor. There are examples of f20/22c's out there running over 500whp on stock motors but they are few and far between.
mclains9 2 years ago
@SpecVchild
its not in an evo though is it?
Put a shitty single cam turbo in a walmart go kart and run 10s for 2k. lol we are talking about real cars here. And stop typing in caps. You look stupid.
IAmTheRealAsif 1 year ago
your excuse when a less class automobile beats up on the car, when you guys rave about how race ready bla bla bla 9,000 RPM bla, autocross bla bla... if they were SO uncomparable then why in the world are the two cars so often on the track at the SAME time unless it is a official event? The bottom line is, at the track stock for stock... EVO and s2000 are close, drag, not even close, dyno, not even close, dirt, snow, anything besides tarmac...
sweetkhmerxtac 2 years ago
hell even RAIN it's not even close... MOD catagory is the same song just turned up louder, a identical WHP EVO vs. s2000 of the same HP in the mod catagory, the Evolution will STILL take it
sweetkhmerxtac 2 years ago
maybe im not fully getting what you are saying but, when SAME poweroutput Evo vs s2k in drag race(not from dig ofcourse), s2k will win. lighter, better aerodynamic, less wheel to distribute power, better topend gearing.
suprattmtfkr 2 years ago 4
stock s2k block can hold up to 700whp
claxin90 3 years ago
Why is everyone complaining? The evo is better stock vs. stock. You throw a bigger turbo onto the s2k and then beat the evo and everyone talks shit about the evo? IGNORANT PPL! How the hell does that make any sense. How many lbs of boost can a stock block s2k push? NO WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THE EVO. For those that dont know, dont pretend you know. If you have no facts about either cars, dont pretend you know. s2k's are great cars, but to compare it to a legendary car. There is no way.
sweetkhmerxtac 3 years ago
Wow your ignorance shines though your epic failure.... To come on here ranting your mouth like you know WTF your talking about when I could go on for months how the s2000 is technologically superior to that 4wd shopping cart. Ohh wow we can't push more psi than an evo.... NO DUUUH its called 11.1 compression ratio genius. The car was never designed to go boost, it was made to spank EVO's and ect. on everything else except a strait line.... An by the way someone is making 701RWHP on stock block.
h1gh0ct4n3 3 years ago
s2k techno crap is nothing special to talk about..whats so good about it? compression ratio isn't everything dumb fuck. There are evos with 13:1 with stock turbos. Come back when you learn something. A s2k isnt designed to boost but losers still do it..why? cuz you need it to even compare to an evo..fag
sweetkhmerxtac 2 years ago
OHHH wooow you know someone that runs 13:1 on a stock turbo wooptie freakiiing doooooooo!!!! and what like fu(king ethanol 110+octane? Who gives a crap i bet he detonates that motor regularly and its a pure built race car. I bet just for that $hit to run its timing is retarded so bad. You can make ANY motor and make ANY power as long as your wallet is deep enough!!! But you cant make any car handle and respond like an S2000 dollar for dollar... Go read a book
h1gh0ct4n3 2 years ago
dollar for dollar. LOL, please. s2k is pathetic. Boosted s2k can't even beat a basic bolt on evo. Whats the fastest s2k in the 1/4. LOL, How many use s2ks around a track and actually win something, look up any competition around the US. S2k is no where to be found. Worthless, Impractical and just shitty compared to other performance cars. If the s2k were so good, how come 2009 is the last year. LOL, weak shit. Out for 10 years and gone. F20c is dead, while the evo lives on. LOL.
sweetkhmerxtac 2 years ago
10yrs is freaking long yrs since it was originally hondas anniversary car that was only meant to be produced for 1yr. but instead of 1yr, it went for fucking 10YEARS!!!!. that guarantees how desirable, well built, and popular this car was. evo still goes on? LMFAO they change trim and model of evo like every 1-2yr. s2000 had very minor or minimum change during last 10yr. it basically had no change beside .2displacement of an engine. also, s2k domintates auto X and NA 4cylinder class on tracks.
suprattmtfkr 2 years ago
Grow the fuck up all you little punks talking tough online. Everyone talking tough online is a little bitch. Real men don't have to. Big fucking deal you all have different opinions. Get a fucking life.
MarcAndAllison 2 years ago
same boost amount as evo pushes? wow you have no clue huh.
s2k don't need to run on same amount of boost to get the same power as evo's do.
just cuz you see bigger number on boost don't mean its better or higher power outputtin car you know.
suprattmtfkr 2 years ago
Thats why they do run the same amount of boost still right? Of course alot of boost doesnt always mean alot of power, but it does help. 14psi vs. 28psi. Huge difference.
Any real race that is official, the evo will win. Racing from a roll doesn't prove much, just power to weight ratio and different gearing. Who has the fastest track time at buttonwillow? An Evo or S2k? Who has a faster 1/4 mile time? Who races in road courses and rally? Who can carry 5 adult passangers comfortably?
sweetkhmerxtac 2 years ago
no thats not why s2k runs same amount of boost as evo. who told you it runs much boost as evo? 14psi vs. 28psi? yes it is huge difference as in mass. but 14psi s2k and 28psi evo pushes about same power lol
also, record holding evo or anyother cars are heavily modified. when cars become modded, it all ends up with who got deeper pocket. Driver is big concern too. also race from a roll could mean lot of thing. why don't you say its useless in front of multi- million nascar fan.
shocxy 2 years ago
I'll agree with out a little bit... BUT Boost levels doesn't matter.. THe size of the turbo matters. For Example.. Stock 9 Evo turbos need to be around 24-26 PSI to hand with a GT35R stock evo at 16-18 psi. Now if that 35R was at 24-26 The Stock Turbo 9 would get it's doors blown off.
I love both cars but 4g63 is a true Champ.
SpecVchild 2 years ago
So mnay people who are nut swingers on this site...lets talk reality....
First off, both great cars and each catagory.
but a EVO will still hand a S2000 its ass.
put the same size turbo in that evo, and see the outcome. The stock block is known to handle 600whp. You guys act like the evo has some big ass turbo stock.
b00b00 3 years ago
s2k ftw. F*ck the haters!!! Just jealous that an s2k out performs an evo. Both big turbos both 2.0 hahaha
FastisFast 3 years ago
wtf a 20g is not a big turbo by any means. It's the same stock 16g turbo modded with a bigger wheel that comes on the motherfucking stock evo. Learn your facts you dumb fuck.
rattoh 3 years ago
aww poor evo owner is butt hurt. I know more about cars then you ever will. A 20g upgrade on an evo is an UPGRADE. If the S even had a 16g on the same PSI as a stock evo (18-19) it would still destroy it. My S with gears can keep up with a stock evo, I have no boost. Evos are garbage. Face it. "Dumb Fuck"
FastisFast 3 years ago 2
talking about haters. LOL. Also, I really dont think that evo had a 20g. No car with a bigger turbo from a roll would pull that fast against a 20g. stock evos dont push 18-19 psi either. Your also admitting stock vs. stock the evo is better? Where are your facts on why evos are garbage? Because you were raised they were? ignorant ppl like you dont deserve a car like the s2k.
sweetkhmerxtac 3 years ago
wow you are fuckin retarded arent you? F20c>4g63T. Yes they do push 18lbs stock. I used to have one!! Jesus Christ people are dumb on here... Dont reply you stupid 14 year old kid. Go back to playing need for speed.
FastisFast 3 years ago
exactly my point, your a dumb fuck like everyone else. READ my question again. How many lbs of boost can a stock block s2k push? NO WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THE EVO! tell me fastfag. How much boost can a stock block evo push again. LOL DUMB ASS! its 20lbs. How many F20c's broke 7's. NONE. Whats the fastest s2k? 8.8? bitch evos already broke that. STUPID PRICK. That 8.8 was also with a 2jz swap, because the F20c is not good period. I alwasy knew honda had dreams about toyota because its better.
sweetkhmerxtac 3 years ago
uhh with a head gasket a stock f20c can push 25+ lbs. Wow you really do not know anything do you? Without a head gasket (compression reasons only) I have seen 16lbs on a stock f20c. My evo has a DP, full exhaust, boost controller, and hks 272 cams btw. You really know nothing about cars do you? Evo fanboy
FastisFast 3 years ago
you dont have an evo. 16lbs is no where near what evos can do. When I say stock, I mean not even touching the block period. not opening it up to add anything. I've seen 25-27psi on a f20c with 700whp. but it was built obviously. 27psi is decent, but not comparable to an evo.
sweetkhmerxtac 3 years ago
agree to disagree?
FastisFast 3 years ago
theres a 700hp running s2k vid on youtube check it out.
uses stock bottom end. yes compression have changed but, i won't say built when it has all the stock internals.
suprattmtfkr 2 years ago
check your ego at the door. You sound like you are 14
MarcAndAllison 2 years ago
you had an evo, I bet it was an 8 and you thought it was like a N/A car and just added random parts huh? stupid shit. I bet you never got a tune to really open it up huh? LOL. basic bolt ons and no tune? its a good thing you dont have an evo anymore. its an embarassment.
sweetkhmerxtac 3 years ago
haters hate on. s2kftw.
lscrapyx1 3 years ago 2
this vid is so bogus
diyordie 3 years ago
i own an 01 sk2. so i can beat an evo, can u please tell me where to buy those stickers :)
rickjaruiz 3 years ago
Damm well know that the Honda S2000 was modified. An intake and some stickers on that Honda?? Lol... Yea right! What else did the Honda have under the hood?
siverEvo 4 years ago
is your s2000 stock? being a honda engineer, i do love hondas but i don't know if it's faster than the Evo 9 MR. i've driven the s2000 and know it's ins and outs but please do tell what is modified. even though it gets only around 20mpg from a little 4 banger, it's still a great car though. :)
jaguna1 4 years ago
Either get your s2000 checked out, or stay out of vtec. Mine gets 30+mpg on the regular.
TurboNFRStwoK 4 years ago
Hey TurboNFRStwok! Of course since you own an s2000, you know that it only takes 91 octane or higher. Either your lieing about ownership or your just plain dumb.
MagnumXLTester 4 years ago
"on the regular" means all the time dipshit.
TurboNFRStwoK 4 years ago
If you think im lying about ownership look at my vids, You can then see MY turbo s2000.
TurboNFRStwoK 4 years ago 2
Oh boy!!! You have a cobra radar detector. You must be ballin with all the falses. I stopped watching after that cause its pointless if you're that dumb to buy a cobra.
Also don't call me a dipshit you uncle fucker.
MagnumXLTester 4 years ago
Funny i never have a problem with false alarms with mine. So if that was the only thing you could come up with then you are a sorry excuse for a human being and your mother should have taken you in the mouth. Maybe for the sake of everyone you should go kill yourself. Im done with you internet warrior, please find me on the streets and we can let our cars do the talking, that is if you even have one.
TurboNFRStwoK 4 years ago
lol i just relized that you didnt even watch the right video dumbass. That was a mustang and a 3000GT racing smartone. You really should go kill yourself.
TurboNFRStwoK 4 years ago
it's hard staying out of vtec on nice southern californian roads! if it breaks, i get "hooked up." :)
jaguna1 3 years ago
rofl evo isnt even trying
sphinxof2006 4 years ago
i love evos that.. but for that one i have no words
evofan1113 4 years ago
And what did the S had ?
attack666 4 years ago
just an intake and some stickers
karmahunden 4 years ago
i dont like the s2000
monkeyhagu 4 years ago
well, fuck you! :)
karmahunden 4 years ago 4
well im sorry that i like the evo better. the s200 is just too small for me.
monkeyhagu 4 years ago
NICE KILL MAN!!
tonhon1 4 years ago