Michael Scheuer is the most honest Ameriacn I have heard. Too bad there is not more Americans like him. They are cowed by the Zionist lobby, and they sacrifies our American boys for Israel. Why!!!
I used to be a neocon and buy into Netanyahu's BS that Israel is America's greatest ally. Then I learned they are the top recipient of US foreign aid despite being one of the world's 25 richest countries. They have not deployed a single troop along side ours in Iraq or Afghanistan. Add the King David Hotel, Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, and insisting on preserving Israel as a "Jewish State" while opposing nationalist movements abroad. With friends like this, who needs enemies?
Michael S is a complete idiot. He thinks we shouldnt support Israel. What a moron. Israel is the reason for most of the medical and scientific breakthroughs of recent history!
@IslamISsick1 when u have rest of the world paying ur israhell welfare terror state bills zionist thugs u will have time to do other things fuck u thieve
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@rgiblin6 Go to Michael Scheuer's website: non-intervention . com then pass the link around on Republican websites, especially the phony Tea Party sites such as Tea Party Nation and Tea Party Patriots, and Fort Lauderdale Tea Party as they are neoconservative and particularly ignorant.
He's endorsed Ron Paul and might get a cabinet position. Many supporters would love to see him as Secretary of State, though I don't know if that's likely to happen.
As always just a few on the very top really know what is really happening and the rest of us, we live in the perfect "Truman Show" A friend of mine from France told me that and I see what he means...
FBI Agent John O'Neill who was in NYC and died when the World Trade Center collapsed and who tracked Osama for years and urged the federal government to take that nut job seriously was continually frustrated by the incompetence of the feds.
@ALTERED13TH Incompetence? Or is that the MEDIA/CFR ruse?
"We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. ... The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst." ... J Edgar Hoover
@1tonykirk Please don't tell me you also think 911 was an inside job, that Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen, that the CIA is dealing drugs in poor black neighborhoods, and on and on....
@1tonykirk Okay, J. Edgar Hoover. Are you also a crossdresser like he was? I figured you were a conspiracy guy. I believe the U.S. government's foreign policy, from our peanut farmer president to the present, has helped create radical Islamic terrorists but not that 911 was an inside job. You're naive at best, but if YOU KNOW IT, you better let the justice department KNOW RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU have INSIDE INFORMATION!!!!!!!! YOUR ARE IN THE KNOW!!!!!!!! WOW I AM SO IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
@christiantruther86bv Who woke you up, Jesus???? Is everything ABC. CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Drudge, and all the other outlets for information "say" also lies???? Do you have some truth that we don't know about????
@christiantruther86bv From what I have watched of Banksters I like it, except a great deal of it must be lies because it came from FoxNews. I enjoy some consipracy stuff and the media has its narrative, much of it ridiculous, but it's not all lies. The real conspiracy is the ignorance of the American public and our political leaders. It's more of a tragedy than a conspiracy though.
@ALTERED13TH Under the "Bretton Woods Agreement", The Central Banksters hammered out a deal with China. Their GOLD brought here beginning in the 30's to "protect" it from the Japs
It was to be returned in 1994. The Banksters absconded with it and didn't have it to "Return". Hence, the "Gaussian Cupola Function" of Dr David Li and the "Bail Out Crisis" set up by Robert Rubin and Larry Summers, obviating the "Glass-Stegall Act".
200 tons of the earmarked GOLD "disappeared on 9/11 from under WTC.
@1tonykirk "We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of capitalism are being steadily advanced in many areas of the globe because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous they cannot believe it exists. The simple mind has not come to a realization of the evils of capitalism because it's simple." Curly ,of the Three Stooges, in drag
@ALTERED13TH Sad. Just read "Tragedy and Hope" by Prof Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton's Jesuit Georgetown Mentor before he left for Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar (What is a "Rhodes Scholar"?). Or the condensed version, "The Naked Capitalist".
The CFR allowed Quigley to pour over their archives thinking he was going to produce an "Homage". Instead, they were horrified when he published a 1200 page book in 1966.
Ignorant and calling others names. Sad. It's how America was destroyed from within.
@ALTERED13TH Last semester, I spoke to a University classroom full of S.W.A.T. and L.E.O.'s
Many were not aware, as you are not. Since then, they have all re-sworn their Oaths to uphold the US Constitution with "Oathkeepers" a national organization of Active and Retired Veterans, Military and L.E.O.'s.
Look up "the McCormack-Dickstein Committee" and Maj Gen Smedley D Butler who stopped the Coup d'Tat of 1932-34 of the US. "The USA Patriot Act" and Hitler's "Enabling Act" are perfect twins.
@1tonykirk I am sure there are valid points in much of what you cite. None of it demonstrates that 911 was an inside job. It was not. It was, in part, a result of poor American foreign policy, a failure by Clinton and others, including Ambassador Bodine, to deal with Bin Laden and very flawed cultures in the Middle East.
@ALTERED13TH The Main Stream Media has done a great job for the CFR keeping Americans stupid for over a hundred years.
The only Country that doesn't know 9/11 was committed by the CIA (which, like most of the Alphabet Agencies, is on the payroll of the IMF, and as to the Federal Government Inc, of Washington, DC, it only owns Shares in these Private Enterprises) and the Mossad, is the USA.
Your problem is that you accept "Authority" as truth, instead of truth as the authority.
@1tonykirk Thanks, but I don't need your help. Large conspiracies are impossible to keep hidden. Make sure you do some research on the psychology of people who believe in large scale conspiracies. It will be very revealing and may help you.
@ALTERED13TH If what you suppose were to be true ...
"Large conspiracies are impossible to keep hidden" The 10,000 people working for three years on "Fat Boy" and "Little Man"'s development at Los Alamos Laboratories would have had to have been terminated.
You have the logic and knowledge of a willful child. "minds are like parachutes, they work better when they are open". "When one has studied all the facts, whatever remains, no matter how unlikely must be the truth". Congratulations.
@1tonykirk Yes, and you must be open to the fact that the development of weapons at Los Alamos was not a conspiracy. It was research and development. Facts sometimes get in the way dont' they? I appreciate all of what you send me and I understand the issues with fiat currency, foreign policy, etc. I support Ron Paul because he is not a typical scum sucking politician who will say and do almost anything to get elected. He has principals but don't agree with all of his statements completely.
@ALTERED13TH Anything that is a secret between 2 or more people is a "conspiracy".
Watch "Esoteric Agenda" and "New American Century". Then figure it out.
Books going back over two hundred years on these topics are mentioned in the former.
When you see it happening throughout History before your eyes, it isn't "Theory" any more.
I really hoped for a lot more from someone who appreciated "Weather Report" and other Fusion and Jazz Artists. Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke and I became friends in 1971.
@1tonykirk Not a huge fan of Weather Report. I like them well enough. Not much of a fusion fan either. Much more a fan of the bop idiom and its descendents. I do think Shorter is one of the best tenor players ever. Cool you know those guys.
That's a simplistic definition of conspiracy. If two or more people have a secret between them, it is not necessarily a conspiracy. There have definitely been many things throughout history that are similar to conspiracies and conspiracies, no doubt.
@ALTERED13TH Yes, it was simplistic and that is the point. It was only recently that the MEDIA spun it as a something that automatically contained a negative connotation.
Look up the term "Anti Semitic" on-line and then find at least a 10 year old dictionary or more and check the spin on the definitions.
When we dropped "Fat Boy"&"Little Man", Japan had surrendered 2 months before. So tell me from whose perspective we determine if what Los Alamos was doing was an honorable thing?
@1tonykirk I think dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan was horrible and it, along with the decimation of Native Americans, the treatment of black slaves, the welfare plantation, and other things people in our country have done are despicable. Of course, Hitler and the Japanese have much to answer for as well. Japan did not officially surrendered until after the second bomb was dropped.
@ALTERED13TH . Oh... let's see... Did you know that the US was supplying China with advisors that were "The Flying Tigers" strafing the Japs as they attacked China? In the 1930's? Did you know that we placed an Oil Embargo on Japan (a "Sanction" today). These are both acts of War and illegal in International Law. You REALLY need to read "Day of Deceit". We broke their code 2 months BEFORE Pearl Harbor.
@1tonykirk Much of American foreign and social policy throughout our history has been very bad, evil actually, no doubt. There was no international law back then and, while we may have broken their code, there is not sufficient evidence that we knew they were going to attack the U.S., although conspiracy theorists allege it. I will over time look at what you have sent me and read some of your recommended books. Good news, Ron Paul in second place in NH!! New national poll has him doing well.
for those who say this guy is a puppet or a liar. Please watch his other videos. He is the only person that ridicules the media for telling us that " the terrorists hate us because of our freedom and because we have elections every four years" he said " according to 9 11 commission report, the terrorists attacked us because of our support to their dictators and because of our troops and bases in their countries". He supported Ron Paul in the last election too.
When people say lawyer do you think of a creature that isn't human anymore or is it just me? The jury is still out in my mind on Mr.Scheur I don't know what his motives are yet, but the tid-bits he throws out are interesting coming from a CIA guy. A wild card in Steve Jackson's deck. A white hat?
To anyone who has not yet watched it, Nat Geo's Inside 9/11 is the absolute best 9/11 documentary ever made. Better yet, they continue to update the docu with new info (IE: Bin Laden's death this year) so that it remains current despite being released in 2006. If you've not yet seen it, I strongly recommend it.
@hfieldhero do you really think so? I am amazed by the extreme demonization and fearmongering in this one.
"they are amongst us" (pictures of santa claus, children etc).
I do like michael scheuer for his truths, but that doesnt mean that nat geo is one of the worst distorters of history and a powerfull arm to fear and control us.
0:33 can you hear him say 1996 capture or kill bin laden, so at 96 the taliban gov were formed & since day 1 of their gov usa have been havin been meddeling with their affaris bulling bin laden. and bin ladens accusation on america started 98. so we can see clearly who started all this trouble bin laden or america. by trying to kill the poor man since 96 that must be hard
Mr. Scheurer = ex-CIA chief of Bin Laden unit. This is THE expert on the subject, and he's confirming the government KNEW 911 was coming up and that this information is being covered up today.
Michael Scheuer is fighting the more powerful organization the Saudi and Binladen crime families who did do 9/11 in such a way as to make it look like an inside job by threatening people to get to the buildings and hijacking planes.
NWO is real, it is exxon and haliburton but they did not do 9/11 they are less powerful than the Saudi & Binladens but they use their puppet Alex Jones to spew this inside job hoax as a trap for you so the NWO can decapitate the US government.
Scheuer doesn't BS with anybody. He stuck it to the scumbag Bill Maher in the following interview. First time in my life I've seen somebody have the guts to say Israel is not worth any more American lives on a well-known news broadcast.
@huntasif Yea he's such a puppet of those evil zionist over lords....even though he essentially wants to sever the support between Isreal and America. you must think he's some double agent set up by the New world order.
Just give it a rest, Michael is a decent human being regardless of his political opinions, he isn't a "puppet" at all.
In a democracy those who control the media have power undreamed of by Kings and Despots. When a tiny unified group of people control the US media we have a serious problem, worse than any monopoly, there needs to be a law against what has happened to the US media. It is too powerful to be under the control of a few evil people. We dont have a free press in the USA, we have a Jew controlled press and they are able to make the dumbed down masses believe anything they want them to
@maxawesuse u may b right that jews control or heavily influence MS media in the usa, & they do influence policy, but they dont have the numbers 2 control the country, nor r they all big supporters of israel or usa policy in the ME. jews r <1% of reps in congress & ~2% of the usa population. the MAJOR support 4 israel comes from xtians who r either politically conservative or fundamentalist xtians or those who've fallen 4 the muslim=terrorist propaganda that pervades most US media.
@el6ar8i There were several times during the Bush admin, for example at Tora Bora, when they could have taken him. The administration didn't sign off on using 800 rangers i think it was to cut off Bin Laden's escape into Pakistan. They suggested using Predator drones to kill him, but those suggestions were shot down. The government has dragged its feet and second guessed itself non-stop for the past 15 years.
Anyone interested in great articles about Jewish influence should go to The Occidental Observer (google it). Dr. Kevin MacDonald has written tons of intelligent material from the perspective of Evolutionary Psychology - very interesting. It is much more subtle and intelligent than what you usually find.
@jeffmaylor You mean 5 million American Jews are so much smarter the 295 million non-Jewish Americans that this tiny minority which is 1.6% of the population controls the remaining 98.4% ? Michael Sheuer is obese ,incompetent traitor.
@jaythehistorian1 Jews are slightly above the average White IQ and they are highly ethnocentric. A group with those characteristics is able to exploit a larger, more naive population, until the larger population catches on to the game being played. Jews typically go ballistic at any discussion of Jewish influence, even though Jews have spearheaded the critiques of Whites and WASPs. Double standard at work.
Truth never fears investigation, and yet there is no and probably will never be any investigation by our government on 9/11. If that does not seem fishy to you, your slave chains must be choking you unconscious from reality.
This thing about killing people to make them stop hating us, just creates more hate, terrorism, there will always be someone to step into their place, the head of the snake if you will, sounds like how the mafia works. Yes, I know there is radical islam; there are radical right wing neocons also; all this conflict seems uneccessary, ask yourself who profits, follow the money. Most countries do not attack others, steal their resources, and do not have the same problems we have.
I have simple Question , Whoever this Usama Bin Laden is , Why Is he ONLY against USA ?? Why Not against CANADA , AUSTRALIA ,GERMANY , RUSSIA etc etc ???? Why USA ........??? Its just a Military Game by US Government............They are on the mission to Fuck the whole World. FUCK US Foreign Policy
You wanna know why? Because the USA army parked itself in the holiest of all Islamic places SAUDI ARABIA. A non believing non islamic presence in the most sacred place of Islam. And well see, Bin Laden just couldn't stand for that.
Another asslicking Fox interview with an Israeli Zionist firster insider that continues to perpetuate the Al CIAda and bin Laden myth. The mantra of the 19 Islamo-fascist suicide bombers cavorting in titty bars and leaving ID and Korans everywhere they went the day before they meet their 72 virgins must be put in the consciousness of the American people, all to protect the real criminals, the Israeli Mossad. Follow the money !!!
Osama Bin laden was at the core of this operatrion he said? Bullshit! The Towers were felled by demoltion charges. Nothing to do with Bin laden. He was made to be a scape goat. Oh we know who was responsible for 9/11. Have you talked to Firefighters for 911 Truth, Eric Lawyer, who "who pointed out the many ways in which long-established protocols for handling crime scenes involving fire and building collapse were egregiously violated, consistent with a cover-up."
'Demolition charges'. You utter utter fucking moron. How stupid could you possibly be? So they wired up silent explosives on every floor and then perfectly detonated them in sequence from the exact point a plane had coincidently hit without anybody hearing the insane noise they would clearly make and then nobody has ever found any of the thousands of det cords and caps or anything else. Makes perfect sense.
Listen to yourself. You are fucking retarded. Like dangerously so.
@OneBigRetard You sir, are the moron. The charges were not detonated when the planes hit. They were detonated just prior and during the fall of the building. That's how controlled demolitions work. Further, explosions WERE heard by witnesses on the scene. Third, nano-thermite residue was found, in abundance, in samples of the dust clouds taken from the scene. Lastly, educate yourself on building seven. It fell within its own footprint at near free fall speeds. Without being hit by a plane.
No. You are the fucking moron because you cannot even fucking read.
I didn't allude to the timing. I noted how you need to suggest that the explosives started on the exact floor the planes hit.
"[detonated] from the exact point a plane had coincidently hit"
Not "At the exact point".
Even without that, explosions of the type we are talking about were not heard and nor are they heard on the audio from the myriad news cameras. No sound like det charges are there.
That burns, it doesn't blow up. So that burning was a stockpile of thermite located on the exact floor the plane hit??? You fucking loon. If their were charges, why bother with the planes, why not fake a truck bomb. Far easier.
If explosives had gone off just prior to the collapse they would be heard clearly on every single news report. They would be loud as fuck.
I don't know why I am bothering. This shit is so fucking retarded. you are beyond saving.
No, people heard bangs that were like explosions. They also heard things like a freight train, but nobody is suggesting trains brought the buildings down.
The fact is demolition explosions were not heard as the building collapsed floor by floor. The audio is on a thousand clips on here. Watch any demolition clip and the sounds of explosions are massive. There are no recordings of such bangs on 9/11.
The press actually did carry reports of explosions, and car bombs and all sorts.
@soleeforu so let me understand your point...when there were actual people that said that they were there in the buildings and heard explosions they were lying or wrong....Three planes loaded with kerosene took down three high rise steel buildings were one was a football field away...eye witnesses took an oath to say that they seen molten Thermite in the rubble..video of the buildings here on youtube showed explosions at different levels and you still say that it as true as they say...wow
Respond to this video... so let me understand your point...when there were actual people that said that they were there in the buildings and heard explosions they were lying or wrong....Three planes loaded with kerosene took down three high rise steel buildings were one was a football field away...eye witnesses took an oath to say that they seen molten Thermite in the rubble..video of the buildings here on youtube showed explosions at different levels and you still say that it as true
LOL!! Indeed!! I watched a documentary last week that used 100 pounds of thermite on a very large steel column but still far smaller than what is in the WTC. And enormous amount of the shit. And a special receptacle had to be welded on to even hold it against the column (so so practical!!)
It did virtually nothing of consequence to the column. Burned and singed the surface but that was it.
Kinda looks rather stupid to say thermite did it when you see this.
I have to respect that remark!! Especially when your name is Onebigretard. That takes balls. And yes i agree. Especially after a doc i just watched tonight. They spoke with a cab driver in Yemen who was Bin Laden's former body guard. He knew all the hijackers and hosted dinners for them all before they left on their mission. So.. Inside job? How does that work? Explain it to me like I am a six year old. Kind of doubt its a "we did it".. "no we did it" kind of thing.
@OneBigRetard I see what you're saying now. you somehow infer that the explosions that took the buildings down originated on the floors the planes hit? I misinterpreted what you were saying because I thought you might actually have an IQ higher than room temperature. My bad.
Your comments about thermite are meaningless. Dust collected from ground zero had nano-thermite residue in it. That's beyond debate. It was there. It's use would explain the molten steel witnessed at ground zero.
Most scapegoats don't release videos claiming a desire to attack.
Did it occur to your mensa brain that when a crime scene takes up a couple of blocks different rules might apply? Especially when WE ALL SAW WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED YOU FANTASTICAL DOUCHE
@OneBigRetard They do when they're CIA assets. Who benefits from the attacks being from terrorists? The US government! They gained massive amount of power through "anti-terror" legislation. Every one of the alphabet agencies got HUGE budget increases. What did bin Laden gain from the attack, assuming he was actually responsible? He didn't. He lost. Thousands of Afghani civilians killed and the Taliban removed.
Also, why should a bigger crime scene resemble a cover-up?
Oh Jesus. If 'who gains' decides who did it then FEMA caused Katrina. Fuck it, then news outlets caused pretty much everything.
That is the thinking of a child.
So all the organisations were in on it? You are delusional. If you worked for the government (or which ever super secret sub-set of it you hold responsible) and you were tasked in achieving those gains, if 9/11 was the plan you came up with you would be fired for stupidity. If you were AQ though, 9/11 would be a good plan.
"Also, why should a bigger crime scene resemble a cover-up?" I didn't say it would. Its just that they weren't going to tape it off and send in CSI NY. What were the scene of crime folks meant to be looking for? We saw what happened, two fuel filled planes hit. Only crazies think there is any need to look beyond that.
Rather than just finding apparent holes in the millions of little factors, why don't you supply a theory of what happened? I'll pull it apart in a heartbeat.
@OneBigRetard If you're suggesting that motive plays no part in a crime then YOU are the one who is delusional. Further you're sarcasm about Katrina is so logically fallacious, that it's criminal. One is a man made event the other is natural.
And clearly, if I came up with the 9/11 conspiracy, I would be lauded because it's obvious the cover-up worked on most people.
Three words factually prove we have been lied to about 9/11:
I can't even be bothered to argue half that crap. Ok then tell us your theory as to what happened.
Building seven!!!!!!! So what they planted explosives and just got lucky that bits of the other buildings fell through it and the fact that it burned for hours? There are far more credible explanations for building sevens collapse that secret men planting bombs.
Come on, explain your theory. Why do what happened, how? Why building seven. Would love to learn from you.
@OneBigRetard Bullshit. You can be bothered to argue because you are. You just can't argue it. Why is it incumbent on me to explain everything that happened to a 'T'?
No one can say with 100% accuracy. What we can explain is this: The towers collapsed at near free fall speeds. This can't happen with a pancake collapse as the government has said. Building seven collapsed do to fire alone, at near free fall speeds. This is ignored in the 9/11 commission report.
No, I can't be bothered because of the huge logical fallacies. Like I said, we can go round and round with this nonsense of you picking out supposed anomalies. There are debunking videos all over the shop addressing each of your points. (It wasn't near freefall speed by the way). I didn't ask for all the details. You give me an idea of you theories about what happened that day. If I apply your approach to it we will unravel it in seconds. You know Bld. 7 sustained structural damage.
@OneBigRetard Free fall speed in a vacuum for the height of the towers is 9.1627 seconds. One tower came down in 10.4 seconds. The other in 8.1 seconds. How are these not free fall speeds?
Building seven received NO structural damage. Look at building 3, 4, 5 and 6. THAT is structural damage. Those buildings came no where near collapse. Strike that bullshit from your head immediately.
As for the firefighters? Do you mean the ones who said they heard rapid explosions when they were inside?
Again. Search free-fall speed debunked and tell me why its wrong.
"Building seven received NO structural damage" That is simply false. Takes 2 secs to find evidence disproving that statement. What is it within you that makes you refuse to believe that? It is not your open mind or scientific rigour.
I am genuinely intrigued. Do you have an emotional reason to deny reality?
I say again, why would fire-fighters lie about the extent of the damage? Are you accusing the NYFD of murder?
@OneBigRetard EVERY single item that claims to debunk these points is patently false. They are claims made by the government shills at Popular Mechanics and NIST. There is no debunking the fact that these buildings fell at free fall speeds. Simply saying it over and over isn't going to change it's validity.
You are ignoring Newtonian physics! INCREDIBLE! You have not even addressed the fact the buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 were all but decimated and still came no where near to collapse.
So rather than say why its wrong you simply accuse them of working for the gov? Which branch? What is your evidence for this? Can you prove it?
Dude, play a fucking video of the collapse and they fall longer than you stated.
So the fact that a different building sustaining different damage did not collapse proves what exactly? This is fucking nonsense. Answer the direct question rather than obfuscating. What is wrong with the freefall debunked vid? ARE YOU ACCUSING THE NYFD??
@OneBigRetard You demand I provide factual evidence to refute the claims of organizations who themselves, don't use factual evidence for those claims? How fancy a double standard. I disregard EVERYTHING the 9/11 Commission and the government at large says. You have taken it as gospel... just because. Further, shills are not necessarily working for those for whom they shill.
No, I have not taken it 'as gospel'. But how fucking retarded to assume that everything said is wrong by definition. You say 'government'. What all of it? Millions of employees? That is crazy. You think they all know and keep secrets? This is crazy. How many public servants are you willing to call murdering traitors?
The 911 Com used evidence and published it. You have given NOTHING. No facts/theories. Just attempts to find holes in others.
@OneBigRetard Well.... at least you are living up to your alias. Building seven could not physically collapse in the time it did unless it was pulled down, which is exactly how controlled demolitions work. What part of this FACT don't you understand?
And again you ignore the firemen! YOU are the one who has provided NO evidence that, firefighters on the ground, said there was structural damage to building seven. I have provided multiple videos with these men saying EXPLOSIONS were heard.
This is over. You refuse to engage on any meaningful level. So loud bangs at random times = a controlled demolition?
You won't even explain why anybody would 'demolish' building seven. You just string together bullshit. Anybody making a claim that there was NO damage to building seven is either a lair or insane. Without getting past that basic concession there is no value in arguing.
@OneBigRetard Not once did I say no damage was done to building seven. i said no STRUCTURAL DAMAGE was done to building seven.
These were not loud bangs at random times. These were loud bangs in rapid succession just before, and during, the collapses. Kind of like a controlled demolition.
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So after me providing these testimonies and you providing nothing, I am somehow refusing to engage in meaningful debate? How informative of you.
How can I engage. You list sources and say they lie therefore none of the evidence will be valid for you. It is a tautology.
Your minor and silly points have been pulled apart with ease several times and the evidence is even on youtube. Rather than accept it, you claim they are liars. Like popular mechanics work for the NWO or some shit. Without meaningful debate this is pointless and you refuse. The bangs that are heard are nothing like a controlled demo. Nor the actual collapses.
@OneBigRetard You seriously ask how I know the government is lying? My god. That is vomit inducing.
The only photo of structural damage I can find regarding building 7 shows a corner of the building largely obstructed by smoke. Point me in the direction of all this evidence that supports this.
Also, stop saying I suggest that the fire fighters are lying. When you all but come out and say they are lying about the explosions, that suggestion holds no water.
@OneBigRetard Why crash planes into buildings with explosives already rigged? Well, that'll require more motive-speculation, but if it were me running this false flag operation, I'd never be able to convince the American people that cave people from Afghanistan were able to plan and place explosives. It takes months to prepare such demolitions. it's far more likely they are able to hijack planes and crash them. Problem is, simply bringing down a plane isn't catastrophic enough.
@OneBigRetard Why do you imply these eyewitness firefighters are lying?
As for motives of destroying building seven? It had offices of the SEC (all of the files pertaining to the investigations of Haliburton and Enron included), CIA, Secret Service, IRS and it had the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management. If this was an inside job (it was) there was a lot of incentive to destroy such a building and all the evidence of, not only the crime itself, but past crimes.
Yes, but circumstantial evidence are still facts and also can be enough to secure a conviction. Faced with the two scenarios the official version is more likely to a factor of like a million.
Why bother with the planes at all? Are you now suggesting suicide pilots were not involved? Jeez, I dunno why I bother. Why did the government do this by the way? Why frame Saudis? Why not Iraqis?
Let me guess, no plane at the Pent either?
The CU of the moment it gives way shows it buckle FFS
Circumstantial evidence example: IF there was structural failure that MAY support a collapse. The buildings were hit by planes, there was fire. This MAY cause a collapse.
Factual evidence example: Molten steel WAS present, nano-thermite residue WAS present, concrete WAS pulverized, therefore explosives MUST have been used.
Dr. Steven E. Jones tested the dust and found evidence of nano-thermite use. Guess what NIST found when they tested the dust? Oh wait, they didn't test it.
You still have not given a theory to pull apart. You just keep mentioning irrelevant twaddle.
Nobhead Jones found the same chemicals that are in thermite. Not thermite. Those chemicals would have expected to be there anyway. How come no percussion caps, or det cords? There would have to have been thousands of them.
"concrete WAS pulverized, therefore explosives MUST have been used." WTF? This is the same as the 'flag fluttering' therefore no moon landings. It is retarded thinking.
@OneBigRetard okay, here's what you're not getting: There is NO factual evidence that shows 9/11 happened as the government said it did. There is ONLY circumstantial evidence.
However, there IS factual evidence that shows 9/11 DIDN'T happen the way they said. Such as the molten steel, nano-thermite, and pulverized concrete. These three factors prove that explosives were used.
These are physical laws of our universe that have been generally accepted by ALL science for hundreds of years.
Sorry, the official story says suicide pilots flew planes in and damaged the buildings. Combined with fire they weakened it to collapse. You say there is NO factual evidence to support that? We are talking different languages then. You won't even postulate a theory and all you have is the presence of a substance (you don't actually) which even if it was there would still explain nothing. As I say if I applied your logic to any theory you had I could come up with 100x more than that.
@OneBigRetard Nano-thermite residue does not show up in jet fuel which is the only other accelerant present on 9/11. You're suggesting nano-thermite is present in other, everyday items such as the paper, sheet rock, and human bodies that made up the debris clouds? I guess maybe you should apply for a job at NIST. They love people who can't do real science.
"Yes, but circumstantial evidence are still facts..." Do you even read my posts or do you just like repeating drivel?
Ok, this is important. Show me where it was PROVED that nano-thermite was found. Am I suggesting the normal things in that building would include Thermite? No, I am suggesting that all that was found were the component elements, and they would be found. Show me the proof of nano-thermite and you might be getting somewhere. Bet you can't.
Also, I have not written off everything Jones says just because he is a crazy dude who thought Christ came to USA.
How come you think it ok to just list organisations and say whatever they say is disregarded without actually addressing it.
If "molten steel, nano-thermite, and pulverized concrete" are you facts you have none. But like I say, you go from that bullshit straight to massive conspiracy. It is logically fallacious.
@OneBigRetard The fact that you have yet to provide any specific evidence of your argument suggests only that you have none.
Here's another good video: uor8NhUr_90
I propose this: I'll not talk about pulverized concrete or nano-thermite for the time being, IF you can provide a REAL SCIENTIFIC explanation for the molten steel at ground zero. No, jet fuel cannot melt steel. No, fires with dark or black smoke (a sign of inefficient burn) cannot melt steel.
@strych97 ok ok. Molten steel. So this out of a million factors at play that day is your argument. That's it. So if 'molten steel' could be explained you would accept it then?
Tell me which steel you refer to and I shall answer.
But at some point let me know what you think happened that day.
@OneBigRetard Which steel? The steel fucking girders... DUH! There is photo and eyewitness evidence that show molten steel. The ONLY thing that can get steel to those necessary temperatures are high-tech accelerants.
What happened that day? Planes were crashed in to the towers, they then use explosives to take those buildings down as well as a building that wasn't hit. My speculations on the what happened are irrelevant to this debate. You have brought nothing to this table. Bring it now, sir.
No no. Time out. You reduced this to 'molten steel'. Which molten steel. Where where?
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This video is good enough for me in the meantime.
However, even if there was molten steel, that is circumstantial, how does it prove explosives? Or are you suggesting 'thermite' was still burning well into the clean up operation.
@OneBigRetard OMFG! How is it circumstantial? IT IS LAWS OF PHYSICS!
How is this unclear? No accelerants that were officially present can cause steel to melt. IT IS A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY IN KNOWN SCIENCE!
The picture they attempt to debunk is deliciously perfect. You can SEE the molten steel falling from the mass of debris the tractor is picking up. Also, let's not forget this video: dBNkw2Vvi28
@strych97 OMFG!!! In terms of demolition it is circumstantial. Read some law.
So why does some red hot metal a few weeks later mean that explosives took down the towers? Show me this in other demolitions then you might have something.
Prove it is steel.
I concede there was molten metal at the site, you PROVE that steel was liquified weeks later.
How does that firefighter know it was steel? I am calling him mistaken. He's no expert. Show me the tests.
@OneBigRetard Prove its steel? What other metal could it be? I bet you think it must be aluminum. However, you'd be wrong. Aluminum does not glow orange when it's molten. The only other metal in such quantity was steel. Further, the melded masses of metal found in the debris, know as meteorites, are rusted. Aluminum doesn't rust.
@OneBigRetard Given, those motives are speculative, but in the event of this being an inside job, the motive fits.
Of Course, these motives are speculation. What I do KNOW, is that NIST, The 9/11 Commission and the government at large, are lying. Think about it what FACTUAL evidence do you have that this happened like they say? You have none. A ton of circumstantial evidence is all you have. No Facts.
@OneBigRetard Why must you take everything I say as a charge of murder? How dense this is.
I'm saying that people do what they're told, especially when they livelyhood is on the line. And if they are told to go on the news and say something, which as likely as not is something they believe to be true themselves, they will do it.
Do you know how crimes are investigated? Finding holes, in the stories told, is how it's done. Seriously how is this not known to you?
@OneBigRetard Also, saying the 9/11 Commission used evidence is fucking ludicrous. THEY DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE COLLAPSE OF BUILDING SEVEN IN THE ORIGINAL REOPORT! They only released information on it 7 years later and still didn't address the PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITIES.
Further, you still haven't presented ANYTHING in the way of explanation of the molten steel in the debris AND super-thermite residue in the dust. Guess who also didn't provide evidence for those things? The 9/11 Commission. Oops.
@OneBigRetard Oh and here ya' go, some newly released video:
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If there were explosions, alleged structural damage bringing the building down is bullshit. Collapses caused by structural damage do not cause explosions. Nor pulverized concrete. Nor molten steel.
@OneBigRetard The collapse times I quote are from your favorite folks: NIST. Fantastic you use their figures for some things but disregard them for others.
Building 7, however, did indeed fall in under 7 seconds. Watch Ml_n5gJgQ_U. THIS FREE FALL SPEED! There was NO structural damage, but even if there was SIGNIFICANT structural damage, this would be PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. The only option is that the building was pulled down. Such as happens in a controlled demolition.
@OneBigRetard As for your repeated questions of me accusing the NYFD of anything, it is outrageous and entirely NOT inferable from my earlier posts. If some random bureaucrat spokesman for the FDNY said that there was structural damage to building seven AFTER it was all said and done, then you can bet I don't believe him. I'll take the word of the guys on the ground any day of the week.
@OneBigRetard Finally, when you have aerial pictures of buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 that show them with MASSIVE holes in their structures (because they were located DIRECTLY UNDER THE TOWERS), and then you have footage of building seven with fires going on two floors and no other damage present, yes, this is HUGE evidence that building seven was taken down by means other than damage caused by the collapses of towers 1 and 2.
Again. Why are you saying there was no damage other than fire? Are you calling the firefighters that say otherwise liars? There are photos of damage. Why are you ignoring them? Please answer this or there is no point in continuing. It will prove that you have no interest in truth, just story.
The other buildings were constructed differently. Bdg 1,2 & 7 were frame within frame buildings, much easier to cause a collapse.
Go on then, what is this huge evidence. But more than that. WHY?
@OneBigRetard I like how you say I'm ignoring the firefighters claims that the buildings were damaged. It's particularly silly because I've never heard such claims. The only claims I've ever heard were the THOUSANDS of firefighters, engineers, physicists and architects that have said NONE of those buildings should have come down.
And while I'm thinking of it, let's not forget you have not addressed the molten steel as seen in the debris. THIS IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE WITH JET FUEL.
That's what I'm talking about. Rather than look at people confirm significant damage, you'd rather ignore and deflect. Yes there were explosions post collapse (which those videos seemed to be). They don't prove demolition charges or even hint them. Rather than fuck about explain to me how you can suggest that building seven just collapsed because of fire yet choose not to accept the evidence that it was seriously damaged.
Just search Building 7 debunked and tell me why its wrong.
I'm sure the "bomber" of the detroit KLM flight was an intelligence operation aimed at increasing the need for more private $ecurity contracts. In June of 09 congress voted on a bill to increase other forms of airport security saying that the full body scans are not enough. They want more physical patdowns and new "technology." The interviews of "passengers" on that KLM flight seemed rehearsed to me. What do you think?
I think you are an idiot, I think if they wanted airport scanners introduced due to a terrorist attack, they would have selected an attack that would have been stopped by the scanners!!!!! Duh. The condom full of liquid would not have been picked up by the airport scanners in question. So how fucking retarded is your bullshit hypothesis?
You will just take anything to not have to accept the fact that this is real. Check the kids journey to radicalism. It is documented.
Michael Scheuer is the most honest Ameriacn I have heard. Too bad there is not more Americans like him. They are cowed by the Zionist lobby, and they sacrifies our American boys for Israel. Why!!!
arraba99 1 week ago
@arraba99
I used to be a neocon and buy into Netanyahu's BS that Israel is America's greatest ally. Then I learned they are the top recipient of US foreign aid despite being one of the world's 25 richest countries. They have not deployed a single troop along side ours in Iraq or Afghanistan. Add the King David Hotel, Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, and insisting on preserving Israel as a "Jewish State" while opposing nationalist movements abroad. With friends like this, who needs enemies?
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haifab1 1 week ago
Michael S is a complete idiot. He thinks we shouldnt support Israel. What a moron. Israel is the reason for most of the medical and scientific breakthroughs of recent history!
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goldberg823 2 weeks ago
Why doesn't Ron Paul put this guy in one of his ads? People might finally wake up.
rgiblin6 3 weeks ago 6
@rgiblin6 Well, Scheuer was at a fundraiser dinner for Paul in NYC recently. It's a start.
ShmuelSpade 3 weeks ago 2
@ShmuelSpade He was on Freedom watch, endorsing RP
MrZoso78 3 weeks ago
@rgiblin6 Go to Michael Scheuer's website: non-intervention . com then pass the link around on Republican websites, especially the phony Tea Party sites such as Tea Party Nation and Tea Party Patriots, and Fort Lauderdale Tea Party as they are neoconservative and particularly ignorant.
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Vote4RonPaulLiberty 2 weeks ago
@rgiblin6
He's endorsed Ron Paul and might get a cabinet position. Many supporters would love to see him as Secretary of State, though I don't know if that's likely to happen.
chirectomy 4 days ago
@rgiblin6 He also recently endorsed Ron Paul for president.
pipewerkz 1 day ago
As always just a few on the very top really know what is really happening and the rest of us, we live in the perfect "Truman Show" A friend of mine from France told me that and I see what he means...
sergiogao 1 month ago 5
FBI Agent John O'Neill who was in NYC and died when the World Trade Center collapsed and who tracked Osama for years and urged the federal government to take that nut job seriously was continually frustrated by the incompetence of the feds.
ALTERED13TH 1 month ago
@ALTERED13TH Incompetence? Or is that the MEDIA/CFR ruse?
"We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. ... The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst." ... J Edgar Hoover
1tonykirk 3 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Please don't tell me you also think 911 was an inside job, that Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen, that the CIA is dealing drugs in poor black neighborhoods, and on and on....
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Ok. I don't think it. ... I KNOW IT!
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Way to go tony. Why don't you use a channel thumb nail?
christiantruther86bv 2 weeks ago
@christiantruther86bv I'm a great researcher and an Old Historian/Professor.
Terrible computerese! LOL!
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Okay, J. Edgar Hoover. Are you also a crossdresser like he was? I figured you were a conspiracy guy. I believe the U.S. government's foreign policy, from our peanut farmer president to the present, has helped create radical Islamic terrorists but not that 911 was an inside job. You're naive at best, but if YOU KNOW IT, you better let the justice department KNOW RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU have INSIDE INFORMATION!!!!!!!! YOUR ARE IN THE KNOW!!!!!!!! WOW I AM SO IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH I'm not having a discussion with a five year old. No offense.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Documented History. Go back to sleep.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH . It was an inside job. I didn't wake up till 2010. I didn't want to believe it either. Everything fox news says is a lie!!
christiantruther86bv 2 weeks ago
@christiantruther86bv Who woke you up, Jesus???? Is everything ABC. CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Drudge, and all the other outlets for information "say" also lies???? Do you have some truth that we don't know about????
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Ha ha ha. Check out my channel. I should have enough info to prove it. Take care bro.
christiantruther86bv 2 weeks ago
@christiantruther86bv From what I have watched of Banksters I like it, except a great deal of it must be lies because it came from FoxNews. I enjoy some consipracy stuff and the media has its narrative, much of it ridiculous, but it's not all lies. The real conspiracy is the ignorance of the American public and our political leaders. It's more of a tragedy than a conspiracy though.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Yeah I was a little extreme their pardon me.
christiantruther86bv 2 weeks ago
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@ALTERED13TH Isn't it great? We are now a Socialist State under Fascism without a US Constitution.
We had a Coup D'Tat on New's Years Eve with signing of S-1867 , the NDAA, and idiots like you don't even know it, or grasp the meaning of the event.
History is repeating. Not "Theory". HISTORY.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
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@ALTERED13TH Under the "Bretton Woods Agreement", The Central Banksters hammered out a deal with China. Their GOLD brought here beginning in the 30's to "protect" it from the Japs
It was to be returned in 1994. The Banksters absconded with it and didn't have it to "Return". Hence, the "Gaussian Cupola Function" of Dr David Li and the "Bail Out Crisis" set up by Robert Rubin and Larry Summers, obviating the "Glass-Stegall Act".
200 tons of the earmarked GOLD "disappeared on 9/11 from under WTC.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk "We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of capitalism are being steadily advanced in many areas of the globe because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous they cannot believe it exists. The simple mind has not come to a realization of the evils of capitalism because it's simple." Curly ,of the Three Stooges, in drag
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Sad. Just read "Tragedy and Hope" by Prof Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton's Jesuit Georgetown Mentor before he left for Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar (What is a "Rhodes Scholar"?). Or the condensed version, "The Naked Capitalist".
The CFR allowed Quigley to pour over their archives thinking he was going to produce an "Homage". Instead, they were horrified when he published a 1200 page book in 1966.
Ignorant and calling others names. Sad. It's how America was destroyed from within.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk its refreshing to see someone else site this book.thank you.
ST8URCASE 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH All you are doing is advertising how ignorant you are.
Hey, Knock yourself out.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Last semester, I spoke to a University classroom full of S.W.A.T. and L.E.O.'s
Many were not aware, as you are not. Since then, they have all re-sworn their Oaths to uphold the US Constitution with "Oathkeepers" a national organization of Active and Retired Veterans, Military and L.E.O.'s.
Look up "the McCormack-Dickstein Committee" and Maj Gen Smedley D Butler who stopped the Coup d'Tat of 1932-34 of the US. "The USA Patriot Act" and Hitler's "Enabling Act" are perfect twins.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk I am sure there are valid points in much of what you cite. None of it demonstrates that 911 was an inside job. It was not. It was, in part, a result of poor American foreign policy, a failure by Clinton and others, including Ambassador Bodine, to deal with Bin Laden and very flawed cultures in the Middle East.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH The Main Stream Media has done a great job for the CFR keeping Americans stupid for over a hundred years.
The only Country that doesn't know 9/11 was committed by the CIA (which, like most of the Alphabet Agencies, is on the payroll of the IMF, and as to the Federal Government Inc, of Washington, DC, it only owns Shares in these Private Enterprises) and the Mossad, is the USA.
Your problem is that you accept "Authority" as truth, instead of truth as the authority.
I can't help you.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Thanks, but I don't need your help. Large conspiracies are impossible to keep hidden. Make sure you do some research on the psychology of people who believe in large scale conspiracies. It will be very revealing and may help you.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH If what you suppose were to be true ...
"Large conspiracies are impossible to keep hidden" The 10,000 people working for three years on "Fat Boy" and "Little Man"'s development at Los Alamos Laboratories would have had to have been terminated.
You have the logic and knowledge of a willful child. "minds are like parachutes, they work better when they are open". "When one has studied all the facts, whatever remains, no matter how unlikely must be the truth". Congratulations.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Yes, and you must be open to the fact that the development of weapons at Los Alamos was not a conspiracy. It was research and development. Facts sometimes get in the way dont' they? I appreciate all of what you send me and I understand the issues with fiat currency, foreign policy, etc. I support Ron Paul because he is not a typical scum sucking politician who will say and do almost anything to get elected. He has principals but don't agree with all of his statements completely.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Anything that is a secret between 2 or more people is a "conspiracy".
Watch "Esoteric Agenda" and "New American Century". Then figure it out.
Books going back over two hundred years on these topics are mentioned in the former.
When you see it happening throughout History before your eyes, it isn't "Theory" any more.
I really hoped for a lot more from someone who appreciated "Weather Report" and other Fusion and Jazz Artists. Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke and I became friends in 1971.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Not a huge fan of Weather Report. I like them well enough. Not much of a fusion fan either. Much more a fan of the bop idiom and its descendents. I do think Shorter is one of the best tenor players ever. Cool you know those guys.
That's a simplistic definition of conspiracy. If two or more people have a secret between them, it is not necessarily a conspiracy. There have definitely been many things throughout history that are similar to conspiracies and conspiracies, no doubt.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH Yes, it was simplistic and that is the point. It was only recently that the MEDIA spun it as a something that automatically contained a negative connotation.
Look up the term "Anti Semitic" on-line and then find at least a 10 year old dictionary or more and check the spin on the definitions.
When we dropped "Fat Boy"&"Little Man", Japan had surrendered 2 months before. So tell me from whose perspective we determine if what Los Alamos was doing was an honorable thing?
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk I think dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan was horrible and it, along with the decimation of Native Americans, the treatment of black slaves, the welfare plantation, and other things people in our country have done are despicable. Of course, Hitler and the Japanese have much to answer for as well. Japan did not officially surrendered until after the second bomb was dropped.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
@ALTERED13TH . Oh... let's see... Did you know that the US was supplying China with advisors that were "The Flying Tigers" strafing the Japs as they attacked China? In the 1930's? Did you know that we placed an Oil Embargo on Japan (a "Sanction" today). These are both acts of War and illegal in International Law. You REALLY need to read "Day of Deceit". We broke their code 2 months BEFORE Pearl Harbor.
1tonykirk 2 weeks ago
@1tonykirk Much of American foreign and social policy throughout our history has been very bad, evil actually, no doubt. There was no international law back then and, while we may have broken their code, there is not sufficient evidence that we knew they were going to attack the U.S., although conspiracy theorists allege it. I will over time look at what you have sent me and read some of your recommended books. Good news, Ron Paul in second place in NH!! New national poll has him doing well.
ALTERED13TH 2 weeks ago
for those who say this guy is a puppet or a liar. Please watch his other videos. He is the only person that ridicules the media for telling us that " the terrorists hate us because of our freedom and because we have elections every four years" he said " according to 9 11 commission report, the terrorists attacked us because of our support to their dictators and because of our troops and bases in their countries". He supported Ron Paul in the last election too.
hopes26 2 months ago
When people say lawyer do you think of a creature that isn't human anymore or is it just me? The jury is still out in my mind on Mr.Scheur I don't know what his motives are yet, but the tid-bits he throws out are interesting coming from a CIA guy. A wild card in Steve Jackson's deck. A white hat?
natemorte 2 months ago
this man is honest
MrBigboss20011 2 months ago
To anyone who has not yet watched it, Nat Geo's Inside 9/11 is the absolute best 9/11 documentary ever made. Better yet, they continue to update the docu with new info (IE: Bin Laden's death this year) so that it remains current despite being released in 2006. If you've not yet seen it, I strongly recommend it.
hfieldhero 3 months ago
@hfieldhero do you really think so? I am amazed by the extreme demonization and fearmongering in this one.
"they are amongst us" (pictures of santa claus, children etc).
I do like michael scheuer for his truths, but that doesnt mean that nat geo is one of the worst distorters of history and a powerfull arm to fear and control us.
br0dskalk 3 months ago
0:33 can you hear him say 1996 capture or kill bin laden, so at 96 the taliban gov were formed & since day 1 of their gov usa have been havin been meddeling with their affaris bulling bin laden. and bin ladens accusation on america started 98. so we can see clearly who started all this trouble bin laden or america. by trying to kill the poor man since 96 that must be hard
Nixupiz3 3 months ago
@Nixupiz3 I thought he said 1986?
brwneyesaz 3 months ago
Bush knocked down the towers. Tell the truth nigga!
enkibumbu 4 months ago
So Clinton could have killed him and didn't ? Wow
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 4 months ago
What interest he has in revealing all this?
Ducky888888 4 months ago
Mr. Scheurer = ex-CIA chief of Bin Laden unit. This is THE expert on the subject, and he's confirming the government KNEW 911 was coming up and that this information is being covered up today.
mattyelle1 5 months ago
boobs
Bombthong619 8 months ago
Michael Scheuer is fighting the more powerful organization the Saudi and Binladen crime families who did do 9/11 in such a way as to make it look like an inside job by threatening people to get to the buildings and hijacking planes.
NWO is real, it is exxon and haliburton but they did not do 9/11 they are less powerful than the Saudi & Binladens but they use their puppet Alex Jones to spew this inside job hoax as a trap for you so the NWO can decapitate the US government.
NWO fears US & EU
infokemp 8 months ago
@infokemp
lol
S2000XC 8 months ago
@infokemp Well that's certainly a new one. I give you credit for not just saying "thuh guvment did it rawawarrwar!!!1".
Motive11331 6 months ago
Reading the comments one thing is certain, most people are allergic to critical thinking.
nethoser 9 months ago 47
@nethoser you have no idea what big of a majority arround 96-7%, including atheists
which i thought were smarter
mHalfLife 6 months ago
@nethoser and analytical thinking
snowonweb 4 months ago
Dis infornation. OMG - 911 was an inside job.
390bullitt1968 9 months ago
Wow. I'm amazed how half of these comments are saying that Scheuer is just a puppet lire etc...
Check out all the other videos with this man, he tells it like it is to any media sham.
tmddog 9 months ago 34
@tmddog
Scheuer doesn't BS with anybody. He stuck it to the scumbag Bill Maher in the following interview. First time in my life I've seen somebody have the guts to say Israel is not worth any more American lives on a well-known news broadcast.
watch?v=ZF4_oaTIH8g
chirectomy 4 days ago
this is a another puppet of the zionists to fool the people...9/11 ws an insde job...u dont need to be a literate to get that....
huntasif 9 months ago
@huntasif Yea he's such a puppet of those evil zionist over lords....even though he essentially wants to sever the support between Isreal and America. you must think he's some double agent set up by the New world order.
Just give it a rest, Michael is a decent human being regardless of his political opinions, he isn't a "puppet" at all.
Give this NWO and 9/11 shit to rest.
Amadeus5150 8 months ago
In a democracy those who control the media have power undreamed of by Kings and Despots. When a tiny unified group of people control the US media we have a serious problem, worse than any monopoly, there needs to be a law against what has happened to the US media. It is too powerful to be under the control of a few evil people. We dont have a free press in the USA, we have a Jew controlled press and they are able to make the dumbed down masses believe anything they want them to
maxawesuse 9 months ago
@maxawesuse u may b right that jews control or heavily influence MS media in the usa, & they do influence policy, but they dont have the numbers 2 control the country, nor r they all big supporters of israel or usa policy in the ME. jews r <1% of reps in congress & ~2% of the usa population. the MAJOR support 4 israel comes from xtians who r either politically conservative or fundamentalist xtians or those who've fallen 4 the muslim=terrorist propaganda that pervades most US media.
censored6x 9 months ago
If they had 8-10 chances to kill Bin Ladin in the 90s, why can't they find him anymore when technology has evolved to exceed our imaginations
el6ar8i 10 months ago
@el6ar8i he's dead. he's nothing more than a boogey man now.
David12King 10 months ago
@el6ar8i There were several times during the Bush admin, for example at Tora Bora, when they could have taken him. The administration didn't sign off on using 800 rangers i think it was to cut off Bin Laden's escape into Pakistan. They suggested using Predator drones to kill him, but those suggestions were shot down. The government has dragged its feet and second guessed itself non-stop for the past 15 years.
Motive11331 9 months ago
@el6ar8i Well, there you go.
cengime 8 months ago
Anyone interested in great articles about Jewish influence should go to The Occidental Observer (google it). Dr. Kevin MacDonald has written tons of intelligent material from the perspective of Evolutionary Psychology - very interesting. It is much more subtle and intelligent than what you usually find.
jeffmaylor 11 months ago
@jeffmaylor You mean 5 million American Jews are so much smarter the 295 million non-Jewish Americans that this tiny minority which is 1.6% of the population controls the remaining 98.4% ? Michael Sheuer is obese ,incompetent traitor.
jaythehistorian1 10 months ago
@jaythehistorian1 Jews are slightly above the average White IQ and they are highly ethnocentric. A group with those characteristics is able to exploit a larger, more naive population, until the larger population catches on to the game being played. Jews typically go ballistic at any discussion of Jewish influence, even though Jews have spearheaded the critiques of Whites and WASPs. Double standard at work.
jeffmaylor 9 months ago
Michael Scheuer's flabbiness long ago went to his brain I do believe.
Tippersnore 11 months ago
911 was an inside job. This is nothing but misinformation.
josephortizgarcia 11 months ago
If a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears or sees it, would Israel blame it on Iran ? -Ry Dawson
euro944t 11 months ago
Truth never fears investigation, and yet there is no and probably will never be any investigation by our government on 9/11. If that does not seem fishy to you, your slave chains must be choking you unconscious from reality.
PELLOWHEAD 1 year ago
This thing about killing people to make them stop hating us, just creates more hate, terrorism, there will always be someone to step into their place, the head of the snake if you will, sounds like how the mafia works. Yes, I know there is radical islam; there are radical right wing neocons also; all this conflict seems uneccessary, ask yourself who profits, follow the money. Most countries do not attack others, steal their resources, and do not have the same problems we have.
badattitude77769 1 year ago
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badattitude77769 1 year ago
A Professional liar for 22 years and NOW he expects us to believe one word? I don't think so ...
mushroomagicman 1 year ago
Well if Arabs had nothing to do with 9-11, then you should have no problems with that community center ... RIGHT?!
mgabrysSF 1 year ago
@mgabrysSF exactly.
fbeg84 1 year ago
I have simple Question , Whoever this Usama Bin Laden is , Why Is he ONLY against USA ?? Why Not against CANADA , AUSTRALIA ,GERMANY , RUSSIA etc etc ???? Why USA ........??? Its just a Military Game by US Government............They are on the mission to Fuck the whole World. FUCK US Foreign Policy
usthinktank 1 year ago
@usthinktank
You wanna know why? Because the USA army parked itself in the holiest of all Islamic places SAUDI ARABIA. A non believing non islamic presence in the most sacred place of Islam. And well see, Bin Laden just couldn't stand for that.
Thats pretty much it in a nutshell.
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soleeforu 1 year ago
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soleeforu 1 year ago
i feel sorry for anybody that listens to Fox New
soleeforu 1 year ago
lies lies lies....stop the lies....Bin Laden was reported dead kill by Pakistan...Fox news lies to you
soleeforu 1 year ago
Another asslicking Fox interview with an Israeli Zionist firster insider that continues to perpetuate the Al CIAda and bin Laden myth. The mantra of the 19 Islamo-fascist suicide bombers cavorting in titty bars and leaving ID and Korans everywhere they went the day before they meet their 72 virgins must be put in the consciousness of the American people, all to protect the real criminals, the Israeli Mossad. Follow the money !!!
1bassman9 1 year ago
@1bassman9 Michael Scheuer is an Israel Firster?
The amount of depth and care you put into your statements before you make them is on par with that of every other 911 Truther.
jizzmonger 1 year ago
Check out: The War Pary- Neo-con and see the war mongers whos salaries you pay with your tax dollars
hailtotheking324 1 year ago
the special was a white wash a echo of the 911 Commission
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
i think bin laden is a athiest zionist man.
abz3751678 1 year ago
What a total crock of garbage this is. A guy in a cave planted explosives? COME ON!
HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE??????
dink65 1 year ago
Osama Bin laden was at the core of this operatrion he said? Bullshit! The Towers were felled by demoltion charges. Nothing to do with Bin laden. He was made to be a scape goat. Oh we know who was responsible for 9/11. Have you talked to Firefighters for 911 Truth, Eric Lawyer, who "who pointed out the many ways in which long-established protocols for handling crime scenes involving fire and building collapse were egregiously violated, consistent with a cover-up."
111RobinHood 1 year ago 2
@111RobinHood Why do only stoner flunkies and borderline shizoids think that?
jizzmonger 1 year ago
@111RobinHood
'Demolition charges'. You utter utter fucking moron. How stupid could you possibly be? So they wired up silent explosives on every floor and then perfectly detonated them in sequence from the exact point a plane had coincidently hit without anybody hearing the insane noise they would clearly make and then nobody has ever found any of the thousands of det cords and caps or anything else. Makes perfect sense.
Listen to yourself. You are fucking retarded. Like dangerously so.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard You sir, are the moron. The charges were not detonated when the planes hit. They were detonated just prior and during the fall of the building. That's how controlled demolitions work. Further, explosions WERE heard by witnesses on the scene. Third, nano-thermite residue was found, in abundance, in samples of the dust clouds taken from the scene. Lastly, educate yourself on building seven. It fell within its own footprint at near free fall speeds. Without being hit by a plane.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
No. You are the fucking moron because you cannot even fucking read.
I didn't allude to the timing. I noted how you need to suggest that the explosives started on the exact floor the planes hit.
"[detonated] from the exact point a plane had coincidently hit"
Not "At the exact point".
Even without that, explosions of the type we are talking about were not heard and nor are they heard on the audio from the myriad news cameras. No sound like det charges are there.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@strych97
Oh jesus christ. Thermite!!!
That burns, it doesn't blow up. So that burning was a stockpile of thermite located on the exact floor the plane hit??? You fucking loon. If their were charges, why bother with the planes, why not fake a truck bomb. Far easier.
If explosives had gone off just prior to the collapse they would be heard clearly on every single news report. They would be loud as fuck.
I don't know why I am bothering. This shit is so fucking retarded. you are beyond saving.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard there were explosions heard ....by more then a few people ...the reporters didn't put those people on the air...your wrong
soleeforu 1 year ago
@soleeforu
No, people heard bangs that were like explosions. They also heard things like a freight train, but nobody is suggesting trains brought the buildings down.
The fact is demolition explosions were not heard as the building collapsed floor by floor. The audio is on a thousand clips on here. Watch any demolition clip and the sounds of explosions are massive. There are no recordings of such bangs on 9/11.
The press actually did carry reports of explosions, and car bombs and all sorts.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@soleeforu so let me understand your point...when there were actual people that said that they were there in the buildings and heard explosions they were lying or wrong....Three planes loaded with kerosene took down three high rise steel buildings were one was a football field away...eye witnesses took an oath to say that they seen molten Thermite in the rubble..video of the buildings here on youtube showed explosions at different levels and you still say that it as true as they say...wow
soleeforu 1 year ago
Respond to this video... so let me understand your point...when there were actual people that said that they were there in the buildings and heard explosions they were lying or wrong....Three planes loaded with kerosene took down three high rise steel buildings were one was a football field away...eye witnesses took an oath to say that they seen molten Thermite in the rubble..video of the buildings here on youtube showed explosions at different levels and you still say that it as true
soleeforu 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard
LOL!! Indeed!! I watched a documentary last week that used 100 pounds of thermite on a very large steel column but still far smaller than what is in the WTC. And enormous amount of the shit. And a special receptacle had to be welded on to even hold it against the column (so so practical!!)
It did virtually nothing of consequence to the column. Burned and singed the surface but that was it.
Kinda looks rather stupid to say thermite did it when you see this.
roquefortfiles 1 year ago
@roquefortfiles
Its kinda stupid to say anything other than two jet airliners did it.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard
I have to respect that remark!! Especially when your name is Onebigretard. That takes balls. And yes i agree. Especially after a doc i just watched tonight. They spoke with a cab driver in Yemen who was Bin Laden's former body guard. He knew all the hijackers and hosted dinners for them all before they left on their mission. So.. Inside job? How does that work? Explain it to me like I am a six year old. Kind of doubt its a "we did it".. "no we did it" kind of thing.
roquefortfiles 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard I see what you're saying now. you somehow infer that the explosions that took the buildings down originated on the floors the planes hit? I misinterpreted what you were saying because I thought you might actually have an IQ higher than room temperature. My bad.
Your comments about thermite are meaningless. Dust collected from ground zero had nano-thermite residue in it. That's beyond debate. It was there. It's use would explain the molten steel witnessed at ground zero.
strych97 1 year ago
@111RobinHood
Most scapegoats don't release videos claiming a desire to attack.
Did it occur to your mensa brain that when a crime scene takes up a couple of blocks different rules might apply? Especially when WE ALL SAW WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED YOU FANTASTICAL DOUCHE
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard They do when they're CIA assets. Who benefits from the attacks being from terrorists? The US government! They gained massive amount of power through "anti-terror" legislation. Every one of the alphabet agencies got HUGE budget increases. What did bin Laden gain from the attack, assuming he was actually responsible? He didn't. He lost. Thousands of Afghani civilians killed and the Taliban removed.
Also, why should a bigger crime scene resemble a cover-up?
God, you are dense.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Oh Jesus. If 'who gains' decides who did it then FEMA caused Katrina. Fuck it, then news outlets caused pretty much everything.
That is the thinking of a child.
So all the organisations were in on it? You are delusional. If you worked for the government (or which ever super secret sub-set of it you hold responsible) and you were tasked in achieving those gains, if 9/11 was the plan you came up with you would be fired for stupidity. If you were AQ though, 9/11 would be a good plan.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard
"Also, why should a bigger crime scene resemble a cover-up?" I didn't say it would. Its just that they weren't going to tape it off and send in CSI NY. What were the scene of crime folks meant to be looking for? We saw what happened, two fuel filled planes hit. Only crazies think there is any need to look beyond that.
Rather than just finding apparent holes in the millions of little factors, why don't you supply a theory of what happened? I'll pull it apart in a heartbeat.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard If you're suggesting that motive plays no part in a crime then YOU are the one who is delusional. Further you're sarcasm about Katrina is so logically fallacious, that it's criminal. One is a man made event the other is natural.
And clearly, if I came up with the 9/11 conspiracy, I would be lauded because it's obvious the cover-up worked on most people.
Three words factually prove we have been lied to about 9/11:
Building Seven Collapse.
You're wrong.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
I can't even be bothered to argue half that crap. Ok then tell us your theory as to what happened.
Building seven!!!!!!! So what they planted explosives and just got lucky that bits of the other buildings fell through it and the fact that it burned for hours? There are far more credible explanations for building sevens collapse that secret men planting bombs.
Come on, explain your theory. Why do what happened, how? Why building seven. Would love to learn from you.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Bullshit. You can be bothered to argue because you are. You just can't argue it. Why is it incumbent on me to explain everything that happened to a 'T'?
No one can say with 100% accuracy. What we can explain is this: The towers collapsed at near free fall speeds. This can't happen with a pancake collapse as the government has said. Building seven collapsed do to fire alone, at near free fall speeds. This is ignored in the 9/11 commission report.
YOU explain how this is possible.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
No, I can't be bothered because of the huge logical fallacies. Like I said, we can go round and round with this nonsense of you picking out supposed anomalies. There are debunking videos all over the shop addressing each of your points. (It wasn't near freefall speed by the way). I didn't ask for all the details. You give me an idea of you theories about what happened that day. If I apply your approach to it we will unravel it in seconds. You know Bld. 7 sustained structural damage.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Free fall speed in a vacuum for the height of the towers is 9.1627 seconds. One tower came down in 10.4 seconds. The other in 8.1 seconds. How are these not free fall speeds?
Building seven received NO structural damage. Look at building 3, 4, 5 and 6. THAT is structural damage. Those buildings came no where near collapse. Strike that bullshit from your head immediately.
As for the firefighters? Do you mean the ones who said they heard rapid explosions when they were inside?
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Again. Search free-fall speed debunked and tell me why its wrong.
"Building seven received NO structural damage" That is simply false. Takes 2 secs to find evidence disproving that statement. What is it within you that makes you refuse to believe that? It is not your open mind or scientific rigour.
I am genuinely intrigued. Do you have an emotional reason to deny reality?
I say again, why would fire-fighters lie about the extent of the damage? Are you accusing the NYFD of murder?
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard EVERY single item that claims to debunk these points is patently false. They are claims made by the government shills at Popular Mechanics and NIST. There is no debunking the fact that these buildings fell at free fall speeds. Simply saying it over and over isn't going to change it's validity.
You are ignoring Newtonian physics! INCREDIBLE! You have not even addressed the fact the buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 were all but decimated and still came no where near to collapse.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
So rather than say why its wrong you simply accuse them of working for the gov? Which branch? What is your evidence for this? Can you prove it?
Dude, play a fucking video of the collapse and they fall longer than you stated.
So the fact that a different building sustaining different damage did not collapse proves what exactly? This is fucking nonsense. Answer the direct question rather than obfuscating. What is wrong with the freefall debunked vid? ARE YOU ACCUSING THE NYFD??
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard You demand I provide factual evidence to refute the claims of organizations who themselves, don't use factual evidence for those claims? How fancy a double standard. I disregard EVERYTHING the 9/11 Commission and the government at large says. You have taken it as gospel... just because. Further, shills are not necessarily working for those for whom they shill.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
No, I have not taken it 'as gospel'. But how fucking retarded to assume that everything said is wrong by definition. You say 'government'. What all of it? Millions of employees? That is crazy. You think they all know and keep secrets? This is crazy. How many public servants are you willing to call murdering traitors?
The 911 Com used evidence and published it. You have given NOTHING. No facts/theories. Just attempts to find holes in others.
Ask once more. What do u think happened?
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Well.... at least you are living up to your alias. Building seven could not physically collapse in the time it did unless it was pulled down, which is exactly how controlled demolitions work. What part of this FACT don't you understand?
And again you ignore the firemen! YOU are the one who has provided NO evidence that, firefighters on the ground, said there was structural damage to building seven. I have provided multiple videos with these men saying EXPLOSIONS were heard.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
This is over. You refuse to engage on any meaningful level. So loud bangs at random times = a controlled demolition?
You won't even explain why anybody would 'demolish' building seven. You just string together bullshit. Anybody making a claim that there was NO damage to building seven is either a lair or insane. Without getting past that basic concession there is no value in arguing.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Not once did I say no damage was done to building seven. i said no STRUCTURAL DAMAGE was done to building seven.
These were not loud bangs at random times. These were loud bangs in rapid succession just before, and during, the collapses. Kind of like a controlled demolition.
Need more video? No problem. Here: frkjTi-2VjI
So after me providing these testimonies and you providing nothing, I am somehow refusing to engage in meaningful debate? How informative of you.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
How can I engage. You list sources and say they lie therefore none of the evidence will be valid for you. It is a tautology.
Your minor and silly points have been pulled apart with ease several times and the evidence is even on youtube. Rather than accept it, you claim they are liars. Like popular mechanics work for the NWO or some shit. Without meaningful debate this is pointless and you refuse. The bangs that are heard are nothing like a controlled demo. Nor the actual collapses.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard You seriously ask how I know the government is lying? My god. That is vomit inducing.
The only photo of structural damage I can find regarding building 7 shows a corner of the building largely obstructed by smoke. Point me in the direction of all this evidence that supports this.
Also, stop saying I suggest that the fire fighters are lying. When you all but come out and say they are lying about the explosions, that suggestion holds no water.
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Why crash planes into buildings with explosives already rigged? Well, that'll require more motive-speculation, but if it were me running this false flag operation, I'd never be able to convince the American people that cave people from Afghanistan were able to plan and place explosives. It takes months to prepare such demolitions. it's far more likely they are able to hijack planes and crash them. Problem is, simply bringing down a plane isn't catastrophic enough.
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Why do you imply these eyewitness firefighters are lying?
As for motives of destroying building seven? It had offices of the SEC (all of the files pertaining to the investigations of Haliburton and Enron included), CIA, Secret Service, IRS and it had the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management. If this was an inside job (it was) there was a lot of incentive to destroy such a building and all the evidence of, not only the crime itself, but past crimes.
That a good enough reason?
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
"That a good enough reason".
No, its fucking retarded. A: It didn't have all the files. B: A paper shredder is more suitable. This is bullshit.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard You are a most incredible organism. The ideas that come from your head are complete non-sense.
Circumstantial evidence means: IF A and B and C, etc,. happened, then this 'X' evidence supports it.
Factual Evidence on the other hand means this: A and B and C, etc., DID happen therefore it MUST mean 'X'.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Yes, but circumstantial evidence are still facts and also can be enough to secure a conviction. Faced with the two scenarios the official version is more likely to a factor of like a million.
Why bother with the planes at all? Are you now suggesting suicide pilots were not involved? Jeez, I dunno why I bother. Why did the government do this by the way? Why frame Saudis? Why not Iraqis?
Let me guess, no plane at the Pent either?
The CU of the moment it gives way shows it buckle FFS
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard
Circumstantial evidence example: IF there was structural failure that MAY support a collapse. The buildings were hit by planes, there was fire. This MAY cause a collapse.
Factual evidence example: Molten steel WAS present, nano-thermite residue WAS present, concrete WAS pulverized, therefore explosives MUST have been used.
Dr. Steven E. Jones tested the dust and found evidence of nano-thermite use. Guess what NIST found when they tested the dust? Oh wait, they didn't test it.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
You still have not given a theory to pull apart. You just keep mentioning irrelevant twaddle.
Nobhead Jones found the same chemicals that are in thermite. Not thermite. Those chemicals would have expected to be there anyway. How come no percussion caps, or det cords? There would have to have been thousands of them.
"concrete WAS pulverized, therefore explosives MUST have been used." WTF? This is the same as the 'flag fluttering' therefore no moon landings. It is retarded thinking.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard okay, here's what you're not getting: There is NO factual evidence that shows 9/11 happened as the government said it did. There is ONLY circumstantial evidence.
However, there IS factual evidence that shows 9/11 DIDN'T happen the way they said. Such as the molten steel, nano-thermite, and pulverized concrete. These three factors prove that explosives were used.
These are physical laws of our universe that have been generally accepted by ALL science for hundreds of years.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Sorry, the official story says suicide pilots flew planes in and damaged the buildings. Combined with fire they weakened it to collapse. You say there is NO factual evidence to support that? We are talking different languages then. You won't even postulate a theory and all you have is the presence of a substance (you don't actually) which even if it was there would still explain nothing. As I say if I applied your logic to any theory you had I could come up with 100x more than that.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Nano-thermite residue does not show up in jet fuel which is the only other accelerant present on 9/11. You're suggesting nano-thermite is present in other, everyday items such as the paper, sheet rock, and human bodies that made up the debris clouds? I guess maybe you should apply for a job at NIST. They love people who can't do real science.
"Yes, but circumstantial evidence are still facts..." Do you even read my posts or do you just like repeating drivel?
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Yes I read it. It was bullshit.
Ok, this is important. Show me where it was PROVED that nano-thermite was found. Am I suggesting the normal things in that building would include Thermite? No, I am suggesting that all that was found were the component elements, and they would be found. Show me the proof of nano-thermite and you might be getting somewhere. Bet you can't.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@strych97
Also, I have not written off everything Jones says just because he is a crazy dude who thought Christ came to USA.
How come you think it ok to just list organisations and say whatever they say is disregarded without actually addressing it.
If "molten steel, nano-thermite, and pulverized concrete" are you facts you have none. But like I say, you go from that bullshit straight to massive conspiracy. It is logically fallacious.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard The fact that you have yet to provide any specific evidence of your argument suggests only that you have none.
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I propose this: I'll not talk about pulverized concrete or nano-thermite for the time being, IF you can provide a REAL SCIENTIFIC explanation for the molten steel at ground zero. No, jet fuel cannot melt steel. No, fires with dark or black smoke (a sign of inefficient burn) cannot melt steel.
ADDRESS THE MOLTEN STEEL.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97 ok ok. Molten steel. So this out of a million factors at play that day is your argument. That's it. So if 'molten steel' could be explained you would accept it then?
Tell me which steel you refer to and I shall answer.
But at some point let me know what you think happened that day.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Which steel? The steel fucking girders... DUH! There is photo and eyewitness evidence that show molten steel. The ONLY thing that can get steel to those necessary temperatures are high-tech accelerants.
What happened that day? Planes were crashed in to the towers, they then use explosives to take those buildings down as well as a building that wasn't hit. My speculations on the what happened are irrelevant to this debate. You have brought nothing to this table. Bring it now, sir.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
No no. Time out. You reduced this to 'molten steel'. Which molten steel. Where where?
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This video is good enough for me in the meantime.
However, even if there was molten steel, that is circumstantial, how does it prove explosives? Or are you suggesting 'thermite' was still burning well into the clean up operation.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard OMFG! How is it circumstantial? IT IS LAWS OF PHYSICS!
How is this unclear? No accelerants that were officially present can cause steel to melt. IT IS A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY IN KNOWN SCIENCE!
The picture they attempt to debunk is deliciously perfect. You can SEE the molten steel falling from the mass of debris the tractor is picking up. Also, let's not forget this video: dBNkw2Vvi28
So why are you calling FDNY fire fighters liars?
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97 OMFG!!! In terms of demolition it is circumstantial. Read some law.
So why does some red hot metal a few weeks later mean that explosives took down the towers? Show me this in other demolitions then you might have something.
Prove it is steel.
I concede there was molten metal at the site, you PROVE that steel was liquified weeks later.
How does that firefighter know it was steel? I am calling him mistaken. He's no expert. Show me the tests.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Prove its steel? What other metal could it be? I bet you think it must be aluminum. However, you'd be wrong. Aluminum does not glow orange when it's molten. The only other metal in such quantity was steel. Further, the melded masses of metal found in the debris, know as meteorites, are rusted. Aluminum doesn't rust.
See: nqJSDn5dgJc
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Given, those motives are speculative, but in the event of this being an inside job, the motive fits.
Of Course, these motives are speculation. What I do KNOW, is that NIST, The 9/11 Commission and the government at large, are lying. Think about it what FACTUAL evidence do you have that this happened like they say? You have none. A ton of circumstantial evidence is all you have. No Facts.
Molten Steel: Fact - Freefall collapse: Fact - Super-thermite residue: Fact.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Circumstantial evidence is factual evidence. Stop watching TV.
The government at large are lying? How do you know that?
You are lying. You claim there was no structural damage when clearly there was. You refuse to answer simple questions.
It wasn't freefall. (The video also shows a partial collapse followed seconds later by the rest)
There was no 'thermite residue'. That is bullshit. Even if there were, why crash planes into it?
No no no. I quit. 'Thermite'. You are beyond help.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Why must you take everything I say as a charge of murder? How dense this is.
I'm saying that people do what they're told, especially when they livelyhood is on the line. And if they are told to go on the news and say something, which as likely as not is something they believe to be true themselves, they will do it.
Do you know how crimes are investigated? Finding holes, in the stories told, is how it's done. Seriously how is this not known to you?
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Also, saying the 9/11 Commission used evidence is fucking ludicrous. THEY DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE COLLAPSE OF BUILDING SEVEN IN THE ORIGINAL REOPORT! They only released information on it 7 years later and still didn't address the PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITIES.
Further, you still haven't presented ANYTHING in the way of explanation of the molten steel in the debris AND super-thermite residue in the dust. Guess who also didn't provide evidence for those things? The 9/11 Commission. Oops.
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Oh and here ya' go, some newly released video:
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If there were explosions, alleged structural damage bringing the building down is bullshit. Collapses caused by structural damage do not cause explosions. Nor pulverized concrete. Nor molten steel.
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard The collapse times I quote are from your favorite folks: NIST. Fantastic you use their figures for some things but disregard them for others.
Building 7, however, did indeed fall in under 7 seconds. Watch Ml_n5gJgQ_U. THIS FREE FALL SPEED! There was NO structural damage, but even if there was SIGNIFICANT structural damage, this would be PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. The only option is that the building was pulled down. Such as happens in a controlled demolition.
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard As for your repeated questions of me accusing the NYFD of anything, it is outrageous and entirely NOT inferable from my earlier posts. If some random bureaucrat spokesman for the FDNY said that there was structural damage to building seven AFTER it was all said and done, then you can bet I don't believe him. I'll take the word of the guys on the ground any day of the week.
strych97 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard Finally, when you have aerial pictures of buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 that show them with MASSIVE holes in their structures (because they were located DIRECTLY UNDER THE TOWERS), and then you have footage of building seven with fires going on two floors and no other damage present, yes, this is HUGE evidence that building seven was taken down by means other than damage caused by the collapses of towers 1 and 2.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
Again. Why are you saying there was no damage other than fire? Are you calling the firefighters that say otherwise liars? There are photos of damage. Why are you ignoring them? Please answer this or there is no point in continuing. It will prove that you have no interest in truth, just story.
The other buildings were constructed differently. Bdg 1,2 & 7 were frame within frame buildings, much easier to cause a collapse.
Go on then, what is this huge evidence. But more than that. WHY?
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard I like how you say I'm ignoring the firefighters claims that the buildings were damaged. It's particularly silly because I've never heard such claims. The only claims I've ever heard were the THOUSANDS of firefighters, engineers, physicists and architects that have said NONE of those buildings should have come down.
And while I'm thinking of it, let's not forget you have not addressed the molten steel as seen in the debris. THIS IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE WITH JET FUEL.
strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
...or were the firefighters that said so in on the conspiracy also?
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
@OneBigRetard like these firefighters:
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strych97 1 year ago
@strych97
That's what I'm talking about. Rather than look at people confirm significant damage, you'd rather ignore and deflect. Yes there were explosions post collapse (which those videos seemed to be). They don't prove demolition charges or even hint them. Rather than fuck about explain to me how you can suggest that building seven just collapsed because of fire yet choose not to accept the evidence that it was seriously damaged.
Just search Building 7 debunked and tell me why its wrong.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago
Scheuer is an Israel Firster and a traitor.
loonmaniac 1 year ago
I was reading read Michael Scheuer's book on my last flight when suddenly this young kid set his underwear on fire.
rachelgolem 2 years ago
@rachelgolem
I'm sure the "bomber" of the detroit KLM flight was an intelligence operation aimed at increasing the need for more private $ecurity contracts. In June of 09 congress voted on a bill to increase other forms of airport security saying that the full body scans are not enough. They want more physical patdowns and new "technology." The interviews of "passengers" on that KLM flight seemed rehearsed to me. What do you think?
canaan1967 1 year ago
@canaan1967
I think you are an idiot, I think if they wanted airport scanners introduced due to a terrorist attack, they would have selected an attack that would have been stopped by the scanners!!!!! Duh. The condom full of liquid would not have been picked up by the airport scanners in question. So how fucking retarded is your bullshit hypothesis?
You will just take anything to not have to accept the fact that this is real. Check the kids journey to radicalism. It is documented.
OneBigRetard 1 year ago