FIFA World Cup 1986 - Soviet Union vs Belgium (2nd Half)

[rams1670]

la primera vez que vi este partido hace mas de veinte y cinco años, pensaba que los dos primeros goles belgas habian sido fuera de juego, hoy con la cabeza fria y viendo las repeticiones el primer gol belga esta en orden sin embargo el segundo es un fuera de lugar claro vease como el jugador belga incluso espera el balon de espaldas a la porteria sovietica y si creo que la union sovietica fue despojada de un triunfo en los 90 minutos regulares en el tiempo xtra belgica fue mejor.

[haroldmdir]

El 2do. Línea era de U.S.A. Y no practicaban aún futbol en ese país, Se llamaba el 2do. Línea David Socha, le robaron el partido la U.R.S.S hubiese querido la final del 86 fuera U.R.S.S. Vrs Argentina.

[pepeher]

buen equipo el belga. Pero me parece que uno de sus goles fue offside, si no los 2. Recordemos que en ese tiempo, incluso, el offside no era en línea, había que estar atrás del defensa. Curiosas fallas del guardalínea.

Una pena haberse perdido la semifinal argentina-urss, hubiese sido un lindo partido.

[eugene435]

А там же походу два офсайда было, когда бельгийцы забивали. Разве не так?

[diegopop7]

Любов СССР!!!

[maximusmagnanimus100]

El gol de Belanov fue uno de los más potentes que se vió en la historia de los mundiales gran equipo el de la URSS.

[S12D67]

Il più bel incontro spettacolare, del mondiale di calcio in Messico del 1986.

[Ebullientdrift]

No doubt why Belgium won. They were 14 (including the referee and the two linesmen) vs 11. That´s too much advantage. I watched that game back in 86. There was no way Belgium could win. They just got lucky. USSR could have killed them at will, but they also missed like hell. Man of the match, by much, Igor Belanov. Of course the main referee deserves his mention too.

[bendelh]

@Ebullientdrift IDIOT

[Ebullientdrift]

@bendelh hahahaah, don´t be rude, babe

[soccerlifeJIapc]

@Ebullientdrift "14 vs 11" - respect

[zheglov8]

he physically couldn't be onside when the ball was hit by the passer and then run backwards and outpace the defenders unless they were trying to create artificail offside which seems unlikely judging by their pace and direction. Still I believe the USSR deserved to win, those 2 posts prove it and they could have gone all the way to the medal round and beyond. Which basically the same team proved at Euro 88. Amen

[zheglov8]

OK, i've lived with this grief for the last 25 yrs now after rewatching every Belgian goal milisec by milisec I, ardent Sov fan (see my prior post today) and still remembering that WC, state Shifo's goal was NOT offside. He stealthily snuck in past the defenders. It was a great pass and execution and my defenders were asleep. No offside doubts should exist for the 3rd and 4th goals. BUT I'm sure the 2nd & key one WAS offside. Look how Ceulemans received the ball, his back to the Sov goal.

[zheglov8]

Unless you are a grandkid of that moronic Swedish meatball of referee, I don't know how anyone can say that the Soviets (Almost 90% Ukrainians from Dynamo Kyiv among them) were not ROBBED. The usual FIFA bigotry and corruption plus the desire to see more paying Western fans. Two first Belgian goals were clearly offside while all Belanov's goal were masterpieces. That team could beat Drugmaradona

[JubbaJabbaJingleJam]

does anyone know where to get the Belgium jersey ?

[eminrz]

definitely USSR should have won the game! referee motherfucker idiot.

I still remember this day in 1986, a great disappointment...

наши должны были выиграть тот чемпионат, даже блистательная сборная Аргентины не смогла бы нас остановить.

[L0ISmessi10]

WHY IS BELGIUM SO BAD NOW? in '86 they's really good

[Mazurka1001]

First goal of Belgium was MASSIVE OFF SIDE so, yeah, the Ukrainians that comprised most of the Soviet team were ROBBED. But that's part of the World Cup history. Somebody always gets robbed...

[teis1313]

@Mazurka1001

you know what off side is?? i dont think so retard look good its not offside learn it fag

[RollingShit1234]

@teis1313 Before 1990,If the attacker was in the same line with the last defender it was offside.Also if the assistant had doubts if it's offside or not,he should award offside to the defending team.You should learn what offside is.The first goal is clearly offside,according to the rules of that time.

[RollingShit1234]

Many times the assistants did not stop Belgian attacks for offside.It was absolutely obvious that the Soviet defence had problems,since the referee did not gave those offsides.Also many fouls conceded by Belgium were not given.In the second half Michel Renquin should have been given a red card.He tackled with two legs while the ball was far.You can see it in 3.37 in the second half video.

[jello82r]

Оба гола сборной Бельгии были забиты из положения вне игры - это видно даже в таком качестве.

Both Belgian goals were scored by player, being in offside position.

[freddyfridgemagnet]

I remember watching this game...................it was one of the greatest world cup games I've ever seen.

[sonaukon]

Minuto 3:37, entrada criminal contra Belanov, era para tarjeta roja!!, delante del arbitro que valido dos goles offs-side de Belgica. Es asi como la FIFA manipula la copa. En un mundial Maradona sufrio como 20 faltas del mismo jugador, al que apenas le dieron una amarilla.... todo esta trucado

[HasaniSabbo]

The most atrocious refereeing I have ever witnessed in the World Cup history. I have been following World Cups since Spain 1982. This quarterfinal match is a highway robbery. Fucking Fredrickson 4 Soviet Union 3. All Belgian goals were from offside position. The worst refereeing ever. And the same son of the bitch piece of shit Fredrickson allowed Maradona's second hand ball in a robin round match in World Cup 1990.

[R1A1F1C]

@HasaniSabbo You are very funny. I will call you "man who doesn't see what man needs to see" from now on. No offside goals son, learn to live with it.

[HasaniSabbo]

@R1A1F1C man you must be smoking hushish, pull your head out of your ass and watch the game, cueleman goal was bullshit. but keep smoking. the piece of shit fredrickson who gave you a gift, had screwed the soviet team in the mext mundial as well. son of the biatch must have held the grudge against the red machine. actually, i wouldn't be surprised at the match-fixing in mexico 1986, given the most contraversial of goals were allowed in that mundial.

[marhherz]

Scifo's goal wasn't offside. However, is Ceulemans goal the one that is very suspicious, because the cameras only focus him when he's about to get the ball, at that point he's a few feet ahead.

The other thing is that the same referee, swede Friedricksson, affected bad the CCCP again, 4 years afterward, when he didn't called Maradona's "other hand of God". Back then I thought this Ref had a bad rap against the soviets (but then again, that was before the Internet and sites like this one)

[driffter1976]

Truly the golden age of the world cup. Empty seats everywhere and a real sense of excitement. These days you get 60,000 for a game between Angola and Iran.

[gunninlinguist]

Belgiums goals were gifts-they were given much too much space.

[goldennify]

je ne vois pas pourquoi les belges étaient content , c'était le match des hors- jeu.vous auriez du avoir honte

[thinker1100]

USSR's goalkeeper played very bad. He could save a team several times.

[wommaster]

no, dasaev is a very good goalkeeper

[drk8080]

our players should blame only themselves for not being able to realize so many opportunities and giving so much space and time for opponents to strike own goal. anyway it was a very good game from both sides.

[drk8080]

Well i heard lots of stories reg. this game, and bastard fredrikson who killed the best soviet team ever. Finally I may analyze it myself. I am ukrainian, i could argue the same (bad referee) . But honestly, Belgians won the battle fairly. only one out of all goals is suspicious (2nd). However 2nd goal was not decisive. If soviets paid more attention in defense and were more lucky in front, they would have won 5:0. But this is football and if "does not"

[koenig34]

i think there was 3 of 4 from belgiens gools who were in suspected offside. the 2 nd goal on the games was it anyway.

it makes me sad some times to see what the fifa is doing with the world greatest football tournaments. by engaging under level refrees from Bahamas or Hawai... in the WC2002 was the top of it .... with south koreas 1/8 and 1/4 finals.... but on the 1986 wasn´t enough cameras to judge the situations from different angles

Peace on you

[HasaniSabbo]

@koenig34 what do you mean bahamas hawaii. the son of a biatch referee was from the so-called cradle of civilization, integrity and honesty Sweden.

[Francesco23563]

SSSR was robbed in 1986 ! ! !

[taalprofeet]

@Francesco23563: sorry, but that's bull. Russia and Belgium were equally strong. It's a pity Russie were eliminated (they had a great team), but Belgium deserved it's place in the next round. As a proof: they eliminated a strong team like Spain.

[rhsdrama010]

@taalprofeet hahaha. "eliminated a strong team like Spain"??? This is 1986 mate, not 2010. Spain were not that good back then.

[BloqueameCobarde]

This was the best match of Mexico 86, by far.

1:43 incredible

[magick71]

USSR attacked more yes but they had the perfect players to do that, USSR had fast flankplayers and deadly attackers. You seem to forget that Belgium did not have those players, in those days nobody liked to play Belgium because they were mostly defending and always looking for a fast counterattack. You can say it was a very annoying tactic yes, but it worked until the semi-final.

[magick71]

The Sovjet Union was not robbed in this game, the Belgians were better that is all.

[kenn0000]

I agree and disagree with both of you. Enayze: If the attacker was not in offside position at the moment when his colleague hits the ball, but while the ball is in the air, the attacker runs behind the defense line, then this in NOT offside. Magick is right. However, USSR was much better in that game. Magick is ignoring two attacks where the ball hit the poles and so many other spectacular attacks USSR players did. They had an outstanding team. One of the best teams ever but very unlucky.

[HasaniSabbo]

@magick71 the soviets were clearly robbed. what game have you been watching!?

[fatcowxlive]

@magick71 So 2 offside goals not a rob? If they were offside game would have been a 3-1 Soviet Win, I support neither (Team West Germany!!) so if you think that it was not a rob then there are two conclusions to who you are, you are ether a) A fucken retard b) An idiot who doesn't know shit about Football or c) Your a Belgian fan As I said i supported no one in that game but the shit that the Belgians pulled and Erik Fredriksson and his Linesmen is dirty football, just like The Shame of Gijón.

[addy1231]

@magick71 From a Neutral Point of view, I think the USSR was the BETTER team no doubt about it. To say that Belgium was, would be unfair comment. Having said that, USSR wasted too many chances, and Belgium scored 2 Goals from a suspected offside position. Dont you think?

[magick71]

Enayze please buy some glasses, not one Belgian goal was offside!!! If it was the Russians would complain but they didn't because they knew it was never offside, so please stop the crap! You say the majorty the Russians are attacking?? Then you saw a different game I guess, this game was one is one of the best worldcup games ever played but there are always guys that don't like the result ofcourse :)

[Enayze]

I didnt see a game I saw a game as shown by these highlights where the Soviets were attacking 70% of the time and got cheated on atleast one goal.

[svigo0]

soviets,not russians.9 players were ukrainians there,1 tatar and 1 russian

[Laffingstock1]

0:43 so out.

[magick71]

Even a blind guy can see that Scifo and Ceulemans were NOT offside the moment the ball is played forward, so please guys buy some glasses ! :)

[magick71]

Do you guys even know the offside rule?? The goal from Scifo was clearly NOT offside, when the ball is played forward Scifo stands BEHIND the Russian defender!

[magick71]

PrettyPiZZAface please shut up, Belgium was clearly better then Russia in 1986.

[Enayze]

It was the Soviet Union not Russia, as 9 out of those starting 11 were Ukrainian players.

[aristograt05]

sifo offside,very easy to see offside!!

[danbrov]

russians smoke

[kurgens]

fuck it, 2 offside goals. FIFA SUCKS

[leandrealban]

belgium got a good team but the two goals were offside......there were very lukcy this year

[naam123lol]

watch closely and you see when hes sending the pass he's not standing offside and thats the moment that matters if its offside or not (1st goal), the most upper belgian player at 2:01 and 2:02 is not standing offside so the goal is is not offside goal, its a perfect legal goal i also thought first it was offside but if you watch good at the replay you see it isn't

and about the 2nd goal you can't see if its offside or not, its their own fault look all the space he has

[PrettyPiZZAface]

belgium won cause the ref helped them. no excuses. russia would have won in 90 minutes if not the ref.

[vasiasm]

The referee is capitalist

[BigFatLedgend]

good ;)

[naam123lol]

lol

[WalterTCale]

How is the second goal offside? You can't even see... Big countries don't get robbed by little ones, it's the other way around. Belgium had a good team that year, and the USSR underestimated them, that's all there is to it.

[pastisan]

and you've still lost the game

[PrettyPiZZAface]

One is 100% offside, the second i can't see in this video. However Belgium only came back with an irregular goal, maybe even two times, so of course russia was robbed.

I think to win a wc ko-game you need luck. But there's difference between hit 10 times the woodwork or beeing fucked by the ref. The first can be accepted, the second never. Maradona easily defeated this belgium team.

[Aedis8]

Russia robbed?? Come on :D. All of the Belgian goals were onside.

[PrettyPiZZAface]

yeah of course. and maradona never scored with his hand, and 1966 the ball was behind the line, and 90 völler didn't dive for the penalty. wake up!!

[naam123lol]

dude the first one is 100% not offside! pause at 2:01,2:02 and then see the rest, it was totally not offside, 2nd can't really see but i think hes not offside to

[PrettyPiZZAface]

yes he is offside! the offside rule in 1986 was different than now, and by the 1986 rules he is offside! if he wasn't offside nobody would say it.

[grodvil]

soviet union was stolen in this match in the same way was stolen in 1990

[PrettyPiZZAface]

You mean the hand of god part two in 1990? I'm Argentina fan but i have to admit that if not Maradona's hand Argentina maybe would die in the group stage! But in the final they were robbed by ref and cheating germans in the worst way.

[grodvil]

In 1990 the Soviet Union was not only stolen in the match against Argentina by the swedish referee (the same from the match against Belgium 4 years before), also in the match against Romania the uruguayan referee signed a like a penalty a foul was outside the goalkeeper area.

[Rafael030188]

Блин,ваще не перло видать в тот день. И еще... Обратите внимание как огорченно апплодировал бельгиец, он апплодировал ДАСАЕВУ!!!!!

[danhjersey]

if only there were more open games like this. thanks for sharing !

[zigodino]

but ist's nice the small belgium and the bug soviet

[vminaker]

That header into the post was a key moment in hindsight...What bloody back luck...

[eldar600]

awesome game! beautifully classic.

[Ticonio]

DASAEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ekshtatenko]

ok comrade,

There's more to a team than the starting lineup

[Ekshtatenko]

ok lets be honest... one is debateable but the other is 100% Offsides no argument about it

[jorn0512]

How can you even see if it's offside. You don't see the moment the ball has been passed. So you can't fucking know if it's offside or not. Stupid Russians. So dumb... Belgica!! Woot!

[kiefsel]

e viva la belgica

[MartijnVDD]

Does it matter?

Funny how people are still arguing about this 22 years after the game.

[Dboyrocks]

hey belgium won, so would ya pls fuck off

[vminaker]

To reply to such a disrespectufl post, all I can say is although Belgium did win (fair or not), you probably won't see Belgium again in the knockout stage of WC in your lifetime.

[tashkentboy]

The best team got riped off by the ref and should have won

[waxterz]

Belgium ownz Russia

[kurgens]

one of the biggest robberies in history

[nusaindo1999]

Both Belgian goals were not off-sides. The off-side rule is that WHEN the ball is passed during an ACTIVE play, the receiver is beyond the second last man. When the receiver gets the ball is irrelevant whether he is beyond the second last man or not.

[dimitriphoto]

put your rule book away, and put on your glasses. both goals are clearly offside. the linesman and the ref riped off Russians of the victory, and probably made some money on the game.

[trueacne]

USSR in complete control of the game but not officials...Belanov - magician, but where's Protasov???

[stinomagnifico]

scifo is not offside. from 2:00 to 2:03 you can see he is either on one line with the defender or even behind him. you can't see ceulemans' position when the pass is made, so you can't judge that decision.

[wazupdowgs]

fucking refery go USSR

[aristograt05]

100 percent offside scifo!!champin of hearts,long live USSR!!

[XtOfje]

Scifo clearly wasn't offside [Look at 2:00 to 2:03].

[sjamoon]

You're right- he's in line with the defender- which means he's not offside by today's rule. But in those days, being in line with the defender was offside, so Belgium were fortunate. It was shit defending though.

[GLeNn07sdfg]

geen sprake van buitenspel, de beste ploeg heeft gewonnen, zo simpel is het

[affigueiredo74]

How much the Belgians paid the referee?

[benmerkx]

not enough to make him cheat for them. Learn the rules and you will be able to understand how the game is played. Zoals al gezegd, de beste ploeg heeft gewonned. The best team won. No debate.

[rstuning1990]

@affigueiredo74 belguim was a good football team in that time now there shitty

[AshenafiZedebubAA]

Where is the refere from? belgium 2 goals offside that is a bad refere. belgium should have lost this game.

[Thesouthman]

De Belgen waren goed toen!!!

[ilyaskoy55]

belgium 2 goals offside

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[ig954i]

they both played real good but belgium scored 2 goals from offside clearly

[nsod]

Everybody, don't forget that the offside rule was different in those days. If the attacking player was in the exact line with the last defender at the moment the ball delivered to him, that was offside. So as far as I can see Scifo was slightly offside.

[shpala]

Sorry, but there is no way you can determine from this video.  You can't see Scifo until the ball is already half way towards him.

[prontip]

wtf are u talkin about , its not when the attacker gets the ball that he is call offside its when the guy who does the deliver does the pass and in this case there was no fkin offside , just a shitty defense

[lenka4u]

The first two goals Belgium scored were offside(100%). For those of you that dont see it either watch the replay again or get glasses. The Russians played much better. They hit the post atleast twice. In any case they should have scored more goals. They had a lot of opportunities.

[BanderaFighter]

There are only 2 non dynamo kyiv players in the squad. You fool. Lobanovksy was DK coach then

[Ekshtatenko]

bullshit 70 percent dinamo kiev. the rest were from the other republics, not to mention Belanov is a nice ukrainian last name right.

[BanderaFighter]

Thanks for waisting 1 minute of my time! The were only 2 non DK players in the stating lineup were:

Dasaev

Aleinikov

So eat up your own bulshit, comrade.

[Enayze]

Emelianenko is also a nice Russian name too. You know Fedyor Emelianenko, the so called pride of Russia who was born in Ukraine to two Ukrainian parents?

Either way it is irrelevant 9 of the starting players were Ukrainian, but that's besides the point, Soviet Union got robbed in 1986.

[Ramaz28]

nickdhg23,

I admit that Soviet team deserved better result, but what injustice are you talking about? Scifo goal was okay, no offside, second belgian goal... well, you cannot judge, because it is not clear wether it was offside or not, but i still think it wasn't. Relax man, Brasil too deserved better result in 1982 but Italy just took the win, as well as Belgium. Everything was fair.

[headshot0boom]

no off-

side great goal

[dqma]

At the time, Soviets argued that 2 of the goals Belgium scored are offside goals. But I think they are legitimate goals after viewing this clip.

[boupap]

The second belgian goal's replay is not clear but I think that at least the first belgian goal is off-side, take a look at 2:02

[Urubelga]

I think that Scifo position on the first goal is too close to be clearly judged from that angle. On the other hand, Ceulemans since to be way ahead of the defense (non-existent) on that second goal.

[nickdhg23]

Certainly on of the biggest football injustices in terms of refereeing.Soviet Union possessed an unmatched combination of supreme fitness,talent,understanding(s­ince more or less the team was basicly composed of Dinamo Kiev players)and an excellent coach.Probably the only team that could eliminate Maradona through collective effort.Back then it was all about the game but i do believe now that they were not allowed to proceed any further

[Heimbiegel]

"not allowed to proceed further"..man that's lame..i admit the sovjets were the better team most of the time, but Belgium just took the win

[stinomagnifico]

Scifo's goal is never offside, just sloppy and static defending. There is no way you can judge by the image if Ceulemans is offside, but again the Soviet defense were nowhere to be found. If the Soviets were tactically better, why did they give away such easy goals? If they were fysically superior, why were they overpowered by the Belgians in extra time? The Soviets had some bad luck in the match, but the Belgians deserved the win for their tenacity throughout the match.

[Enayze]

Are you kidding me? The Soviets were far more superior, both of the Belgian goals were offside. They were gifted that victory after getting outplayed the whole game. As you can see majority of these highlights are of Soviets attacking.

[stinomagnifico]

Come on people, freeze frame at 2:01 and you can clearly see Scifo coming from behind his marker, hence no offside. There are no images that show Ceulemans' position when the pass is played, so we'll never know for sure. Fact is the Soviets gave it away and Belgium took it in style. Ceulemans' goal is pure class.

[vdven]

yes, exactly, the truth is the Soviet defence did not know how to deal with high crosses.

[R1A1F1C]

@boupap The first Belgian goal is clearly no offside. At the moment that Gerets swings the ball in from the left, Enzo Scifo is not passed the last defender. The second goal by Ceulemans cannot be judged from this movie, but if a ball is that high in the air and takes so long before it reaches the attacker, obviously the linesmen would have seen it immediately if it was offside. Also the third and the fourth are legitimate goals.

[takharov]

Great match from both sides . But shocking defending on Ceulemans second equalising goal.

[jerrrrrrrrrrrroen]

pfaff is the best ever!!!!