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  • May i know how many God in Chirst? Is jesus is a human? If jesus is a human then who created HIM? Isnt who created him is the MOST powerful?

  • @steelbrushtattoo

    ya, how was the world created?? was it the big bang theory?? what went bang??

    in the beginning there was nonthing, so can you make something out of nonthing? thats Scientifically impossible to make something out of nonthing. that proves to me there has to be a higher power. I beleave that God does exist. I will pray for you.

  • Jesus was indeed the son of God but he did not claim it by force or said I am the Son of God!!!worship me and serve me Instead he humbled himself and so God glorified him and made him known to man!!!!!My brothe you are deceived !!By the Satan come back to christ!!!

  • and with this u want to say that people can kill god ?? and u are saying that god has a beginning and an end cuz he did come out maria pfff he also said u have never seen god or heard his voice or his shape read ur book man

  • Bible also says Jesus is a Prophet and salvation is through Mercy of GOD.

    Luke1: 76. And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him,

    77. to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins,

  • Not a single unequivocal Statement in the completely Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says i am GOD or Where he Says Worship me.

    Infact Jesus says

    Gospel of John 14:28 "My Father is Greater than I"

    Gospel of John 10 : 29 "My Father is Greater than all "

    Gospel of Mathew 12:28 "I cast out devil with the Spirit of God"

    Gospel of John 5:30 " I by ownself can do nothing, as i hear i judge and my judgement is just for i seek not my will but the will of my Father"

  • @arzlan2 John 14,8:-10:

    philip saith unto him lord,show us the father, and it sufficeth us. jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, philip? He that hath seen me has seen the father; and how sayest thou then, show us the father?

  • @MrLawnboy69 revelation 1, 8:

    I am Alpha and omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the almighty.

  • I is easy to convert the muslim and Arabic people to Christianity. all they need is to be ministered to with the faith being explained to them according to what is written in the bible. Also prayer for muslims is the most important for the miracle of believe that Jesus is the Living God of Abraham. Also God never intended an eternal acceptance of the Arabs who lead the faith, deriving from the Patriarch Ishmael and not Mohamed. Ishmael is greater then Muhammad, and so is Moses.

  • In Genesis 18:1,2-33 JESUS APPEARED as the GODMAN. Abraham look up & saw 3 MEN. (Jesus with 2 of His angels) JESUS ATE & WALK with Abraham & told Sarah his wife personally that she will have a baby (Isaac). Genesis 17:1 JESUS APPEARED again to Abram, & said, "I AM GOD ALMIGHTY", made a covenant with him, change his name to ABRAHAM. The GOD of Abraham is JESUS, JESUS said in John 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it & was GLAD".

  • Thanks for your video. You are but a handful of men who are not afraid to preach the truth. Please visit my website at endtimes.us.com I have similiar videos about Jesus being God. Keep up God's work because you shall be rewarded. May God bless you and your family.

  • Nice work. Jesus IS God!

  • Numbers 23:19 (New International Version)

    19 God is NOT human, that he should lie, NOT a human being, that he should change his mind.

    Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

  • LUNATIC

  • Ha ha ha.... God came and died for your sins???.... .surely these words you speak makes you a transgressor! ....blasphemous you are!!!....please do not speak of God that which is not the truth... God is siting on the right side of his own right hand??? what is this mate?? ...very confusing!!!

  • In The Name of God The Most Gracious The Most Merciful

    4:(172) Christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship God, nor do the angels, those nearest (to God): those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer)."

    O people , Jesus pbuh is not God but he is the messenger of God .

    \

    O people read the Quran .

  • LORD I AM SORRY! FORGIVE ME! I RAN AWAY FROM YOU AND COME RUNNING BACK! FORGIVE ME!

    JESUS NAME NAME!

    I started to believe in Islam and started believing in the Qu'ran and started to do the five daily prayer. But I relize where I stand I know longer doubt. THANK YOU YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!

    THANK YOU JESUS, I RUN BACK TO YOU! I HAVE EATEN WITH THE PIGS AND HAVE SPENT TIME WITH THE PROSTITUTES AND TOOK MY INHERITANCE EARLY!

    DADDY I RUN BACK TO YOU!

    AMEN!

    *closes account*

  • Honestly the bible is an oxymoron. Jesus (supposedly God) worships himself !!! For every verse you say that Jesus verified he was equal to God, there are 2 that show the exact opposite. The only way to get real proof is to ask God Himself which is the right path and truly open your heart and mind

  • Craaaaiiig Daviiiid, can I get a rewiiiiiind!

  • Allah Shitbar

  • if you say that jesus is god why do you believe that he was crusivide

    only god = god jesus was his messenger just as abraham mohammed pbuh

    and moses , adam and much more prophets

  • @arabia12340 your allah is a pathetic mood god

  • @mileycyruscousinchad just shut your mouth

    jesus is not the lord

    their is one god

    and he has much messenger

    and god is allah

    and allah is god

    jesus is a messenger

  • @mrlatinaargentina how about you shut yours! Prove to me without the Qur'an allah is God and Jesus isn't Ok? you can't do that but yet many people can show you physical proof of Jesus' Godship

  • @mileycyruscousinchad watch?v=7xKm91vNTSc

  • Respond to this video... The Gospel of Mark 15. And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. can god be possessed by devil ??? read all the bibles u can get and stop making god a man

  • The Ten Commandments

    (Exodus 20: 1-17 & Deuteronomy 5: 6-21) : 1 Thou shall not take any god except ONE God.

  • Jesus is Lord and His Father is LORD and they are of one will. Psalms 110

    Jesus Christ is the King of the Jews, King of Kings, Lord of lords.

    You are not each Gods. The Bible says;

    Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? John 10:34

    While you may be gods, you are not God.

    So repent! Turn from your sin and accept the Lord who is the perfect and final sacrifice for sin. Accept Him who is the lone Son of God. Amen. Come Lord Jesus.

  • We preach: JESUS CHRIST is the only NAME given to the men to be saved.

    "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Act 4:12)

  • bunch of fucking fanatics, theres no fucking thing as god or sucha thing.

  • ...THE TRUTH IS CONTINUED....

    In the name of Allah,Most Gracious,

    Most Merciful.

    2 (Al Baqarah) 21 : "O ye people! Workship your Guardian Lord,Who created you And those who came before you,That ye may become righteous,

    BIBLE SAYING LOTS OF THING I CAN SHOW 4TH GOD HE NEVER DIE HE NEVER BORN GUSS WHO IS THAT ?

  • hai, man why deleting my comments?

    YOU CAN DELET MY COMMENTS BUT NOT THIS READ IT IN YOUR BIBLE

    New testament (still?!.... but the command still)

    37 : Which Command Is the Most Important?

    Jesus answered, Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.

    38: This is the first and most important command.(MATTHEW 22:37)

    AND READ THE LAST AND FINAL REVULATION FROM OUR AL MIGHTY ALLAH (THE TRUE GOD)

    CONTINUE...

  • I Hope and Pray your heart touches by God in future...How you proof Yesus is Son of God? Is better Pope Benedict change the Christian law "Jesus son of God" to "Adam Son of God" Because Adam no Parents....You believe or not?.....

  • falcon5956

    The truth is the bible is false; all regions that rely on the bible are false. Reject the god of Abraham that Jews, Christians and Muslims worship. To Him be an anti-theist and blasphemer. If God does not like it let him do something. God will do nothing, not even complain.

    Churches quote the bible, which is a compilation of second hand false stories and ancient mythologies. They frighten you and take your money. Keep your money and resist their foolishness.

  • hallelujah

  • Amen!

  • There are many things in the Bible which aren't meant to be taken literally or as historical facts, but as metaphors. For example Jesus is said to have been born from a virgin Mary, its not telling a lie, but its saying that Jesus was not an ordinary man, this is just like how buddists believe buddah was bron from his mother's armpit.

    None of the Writers of gospel knew how jesus was born, they're not saying that Jesus was historically born of virgin, but its a metaphor.

  • It was a slit in his mother's side-caesarean section.

    Four noble truths and the eightfold path-amazing philosophy.

  • The word in the John's gospel 'logos' does NOT refer to Jesus of Nazareth, but its referring to the wisdom of God. John is not saying that Jesus of Nazareth is God and he existed with God at the creation, certainly not. John meant that wisdom of God was with God from the beginning and it incarnated in to Jesus of Nazareth and we see its grace / truth through Jesus. And yes there is no word 'trinity' in the bible, and Jesus certainly knew nothing about the doctrine which came 300 years after him.

  • Obviously your knowledge on the bible is quite limited for the Trinity was a prophecy fortold in the Jewish Bible, Isaiah 9:6 and Jesus did teach the Trinity because he is the Trinity, he is the creator who came into humanform to teach of his omnipresence or Holy Spirit that is IN all people on earth

    The Nicene council only debated on issues of Christianity

    they did not invent the Trintiy

  • Isaiah 9:6 (King James Version) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    That sounds like the Jew's Messiah, but no mention of the trinity.

    misquote?

  • Isaiah 9:6 is indeed the Messiah, and Father, Councelor, Son are all together the Trinity and Jesus is the Trinity or creator Father who came into humanform as God incarnate known as the son to teach of his omnipresence or Holy Spirit which is also the wonderful Counselor=One God as Jesus Christ

  • That is one of the weakest links i have ever heard.

    When a scientist finds evidence, he then formulates a theory. What we have here is an already know idea and then a search for evidence that backs it up.

    Sorry, but that one leaves waaaay too much to chance-these are from Jewish texts, why don't the Jewish people associate their long awaited messiah with a trinity?

  • I don't know why the Jewish people don't associate the Messiah with the Trinity but they will recognize Jesus when he returns a second time and only then perhaps will they accept him ...as God the Father to them

  • And the Nicene council did discuss the trinity as one of its main points was to define Jesus's substance with regards to the 'father' in the trinity-whether he was similar or the same.

  • Yes the Nicene council did discuss the Trinity and here a division occurred between the Roman Church and the Orthodox church over this issue

    But I was born a Christian and all my Christian life despite the religious schooling etc I only thought of Jesus as the Son of God, never as God until later on when I learnt Jesus is God the Father and Holy Spirit as well, this was not taught to me by my upbringing or church rather this is in the Bible itself

  • My point with the Jewish not associating the messiah with the trinity is only a learned Jew would understand the context of their own scripture, which is why many of the quotes the christians pull out can be greeted with bemusement.

  • I have found that the most educated, famous, powerful people do not know everything

    I question authority and I try to learn what comes from God and what comes from man

    It use to be, Most Jews were learned Jews but not all scripture was meant to be understood until their prophecy came true, only then could it be understood

    I don't follow what many Christians speculate as to what the scriptures mean, I follow what the Holy Spirit reveals about the scriptures, big difference

  • Jesus claimed he is God, that is why he was sent to the cross and Muhammad was careful to never say anything as to what Jesus taught,with the exception of what Muhammad took for himself. To seal the deal, Muhammad told his followers the Bible of 2 faiths were falsified when he did not know the languages of the Bible and when no prophet was sent after the final prophet or Messiah

    Jesus said he is God and proves it best when people world wide experience his presence to this very day

  • I want to Thank You for your video, you speak so sincere

    Jesus said he was God that is why he was sent to the cross and he rose from the dead to prove it, and after he rose from the dead, then he proved he is in all people on earth John 14:20 Christians who ask for the Holy Spirit will slowly become aware of the Lord's Loving Presence who is with us to guide us in all things always so that our Joy may be full

    Blessings of Love and Joy for you and your Loved Ones

  • can i assume you have read both the Qur'an and the Bible?

  • All souls day was once the day of the dead, the celtic feast of samhain became all saints day (although the previous day set in the 7th century actually took place on the feast of Lemures) What i am trying to say is that all these days which we dedicates to such and such were all replacement holidays to comfort the converted masses.

    Don't even get me started on the Roman God Mithras.

    What are you exactly?

  • Get started on the God Mithras who came along between the first and the 4 centuries in Iran perhaps Mithras was the Iranian language for Christ

    Even so, what is it to you, but nothing

    Only Islam began with a false prophet and the religion of Mithras is no more

    but Christianity still remains the world's largest religion and it would have been larger had not Muslims forced Turkey, Egypt and the Middle East to convert to Islam

  • I know you refer to it as Iranian because of its persian connotations however it was favoured amongst the military of Rome as well. I will not defend Islam as it is not my religion and there are people far more intelligent than i willing to do so. One in five people are Muslim.

    If Jesus knew what had been done in his name and the corruption of his philosophy that followed he would turn over in his very real and very earth bound grave.

  • SpiritKeeper your own name you do not honor

    Jesus went to the cross,rose from the dead because he claimed he is God in order to reveal He is in all people on earth to guide them

    So He would not roll in a grave for he rose from the Dead and he remains in our world and in all people

    It is Muhammad who rolls in his grave for inventing a religion that contradicted God and that has deceived many people through fear, violence, oppression, exploitation

    Yes I have read both the Koran + Bible

  • Well thank goodness for that, it seems christians who have read the bible in full is becoming a scarce commodity. Jesus did not create a religion, nor was it his intent. He was a committed Jew as were his followers. Christianity as we know it was created many years after his death and based upon selected and edited texts with contradictory evidence from the same period branded as heresy. Islam is an abrahamic religion as is Judaism and christianity and should be treated as such.

  • Jesus was a Jew until he rose from the dead then he became a Christian himself

    For Christ itself means One with God

    and that is the purpose of God coming into human form which was to reconcile humankind back to Him

    Islam is not an Abrahamic religion rather it knows little about what Abraham knew and Islam is modeled upon the wrongs of the Jews

    Islam should be treated for what it is, it is a man man religion using God to exploit people

    Islam is from Satan not God

  • No, christianity was the term used to describe the 'worshipers of christ' and was interned as mockery, but like terms such as suffragette and tory became used by the people it described. A person cannot worship himself. Islam Is an Abrahamic religion as when you read the bible as i assume you have the people of Islam are descendant from the second son of Abram. The son born of the concubine-oh those christian values.

    Do you believe in a real entity for evil called Satan/lucifer?

  • Christianity use to be called the Way of the heart which is the way to experience the realism of God

    Islam is only about Muhammad using God to do much evil,such as hate the non believer

    Abraham knew the difference between false gods and the true God for the true God speaks

    Islam has a god you never see or hear because such a god does not exist

    and Islam added Muhammad before God when he said obey me and obey Allah

    Abraham did no such thing

  • He who harms a non-muslim in a muslim land is my enemy and i will be his enemy on the day of judgement.

    Who said this?

  • Your quote = he who harms a non muslim is not in the koran

    Islam teaches hate the non believer,see them as evil

    Today Muslims hate the Jews,the Americans and all non Muslims

  • It is a quote from the Haddith and a direct quote from Muhammed himself.

    Do not generalise a people. It speaks of a monstrous ignorance. Jews are 'people of the book' just like christians. The Palestinians might hate america and israel because they took their bloody country, not for their religion. If someone steals from you do you seek justice because they were of a different faith or because they stole from you?

    He who kills one innocent kills the world entire. Where's that quote?

  • The Haddith although studied and applied by Muslims, is still not the Koran

    I do not generalize anyone

    but Islam is a religion of aggression,oppression,exploita­tion and war

    Israel does not belong to the Palestinations and the Dome of the Rock had no business being in Jerusalem just as the Muslims had no business being there, it is they who stole Israel from the Jews long ago

    Israel belongs to God and God chose the Jews to care for Israel and too bad for the rest of the world

  • Research a very good play by Bertolt Brecht called 'the causasion chalk circle"

    And if you want to go far enough back in history, follow the bloody road that led the Jews to the 'promised land' and the thousands of innocents they slaughtered along the way. If you love the Israelites so much, according to your beliefs, what exactly happens to the jews on the day of judgement?

    "Today Muslims hate the Jews,the Americans and all non Muslims" and you don't generalise?

    I'm getting annoyed now.

  • As you know from your reading of the Qur'an, the three main prophets in Islam are Moses, Jesus and Mohammed. Jesus was a JEW, as was Simon, Judas, Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew, James, Thaddaeus and the zealot Simon.

    You can smear Islam all you want but without it Philosophy as we know it would not exist as it is only through Islamic sources that Greek thought and reasoning was able to survive Christian destruction.

  • Muhammad claimed he descended from the first son:Ishmael but God chose the Second son,Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant,thus only Jews were chosen by God to be prophets and no prophet was sent by God after the Messiah for the Messiah was for told to come throughout all the bible and he came and that was the end to the prophets until Jesus returns

    and Satan are the lies people believe in that blind them from perceiving God's presence in their lives and in their world

  • When the concubine fled into the wilds for fear that Abraham's wife would kill her child, what did the angel say to her?

  • I know what God said to Hagar for Ishmael's descendents will be blessed but God still chose the second son Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant,therefor

    Muhammad could be a great man, a wise man but he could never ever be God's prophet and he had no right to invent a new religion that uses God and that contradicts God

  • I do not smear Islam but Muslims were conquerers and philopsophy was long ago invented by the Greeks never the Muslims

    Nothing comes out of Muslims nations, not the car, not the phone,not math that pre existed them

    All because Islam is oppressive,punishing those who do not conform, thus stifling social improvement

    Islam is a man made religion of war and it began with a false prophet who proved it when he claimed he was the ahmad which is how God is with all people

  • Which part of history are you missing, Bagdad was once the cultural nub of the world as it contained the only remaining copies of Greek philosophy as the European counterparts had been burnt by enthusiastic followers of christ who believed no intelligent thought could have existed before Jesus. It was centuries later-when the Christians went to destroy moorish spain that their records were discovered and the ideals of 'western culture' were found and used. Look it up i know i'm right.

  • Bagdad was once Jewish and Christian as was all the Middle East before it was conquered by the Muslims

    Just as today the Muslims enjoy the benefits of the work done by the Americans with the oil, so too did the Muslims in both Bagdad and Barcelona benefit from the work of the Jews

    It was the Jews who were educated above and beyond all other people

    Muslims merely conquered them and took credit

  • How many of the jews and christians who lived peacefully alongside the Muslims were also killed in the crusades? What do you know about the order of Saint John in Jerusalem time? Just because you are christian does not mean you have to be wilfully ignorant and deny the huge input to society that muslims have achieved. Likewise i do not deny the input of, say, the Jesuit order towards education and higher learning. A small mind is easy to fill with faith, next you'll say you're a creationism.

  • The crusades began because Muslims took over Israel and Jerusalem and it is they who began the attack on the pilgrims when they had no right to be there in the first place

    Muslims slaughtered, that was what they did, and they produced millions of unwanted children, perhaps you are one of them, they did nothing else at all

    Next I will say, Jesus is God and Muhammad was a false prophet

  • If you believe that is why the crusades started...

    I try to avoid swearing.

    If you believe that bullshit then you are beyond help. All i say is don't be a thomas aquinas "i am a man of one book" Don't let your personal beliefs cloud your judgement and for crying out loud read a sodding history book. Creationism or not you still sound like a moron. Just follow the golden rule and don't bother me with you idiotic suppositions. You cannot conclusively prove that Jesus was God. That is what Faith is

  • It is definite as to why the crusades started

    See the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, it was built just after the time of Muhammad when it was known by Muslims that Jerusalem was a Jewish Holy Site

    How would Muslims like a big star of David put on top of the Kaaba

    when there is not one Jew or Christian that is allowed to live in all of Saudi,then the answer is quite clear

    Muslims are the aggressors, they know it but they always blame the victims

  • Actually the one who proves best is Jesus as Jesus went to the cross to rise from the dead to say: I live in you and that is true of all people on earth and proof is you have intuition and you dream

    Jesus said he is God and he proved it and when he manifests the whole world will recognize him and acknowledge him as God

    That is beyond faith,that is fact

  • Jews and Christians were killed alongside Muslims because they were indistinquished from the Muslims,

    I know nothing about the order of St.John in Jerusalem

    Muslims put nothing into society but millions of unwanted, unloved, abused children that is, they only contribute to human sufferings evident by their wars, religious police, their stoning adulterers when polygamy itself is adultery, they hang gays,they practice honour killing and sharia law

  • For fucks sake all the things you accuse them of is found in the bible, the punishment for disobedient children was death for crying out out. Why can't you see the hypocrisy in your words. The new testament was clearly tampered with and i've addressed this before. I'm done with this. Read the bible again, i think you missed a few chapters. as for abused children, as a christian, with all thats gone on in the past few years do you really want to bring up abused children? What denomination are you

  • You see spirit you how you became more angry for each message

    Spirit keeper balony

    The important teachings still remain in the Bible and who said the bible was tampered with, and where is his proof?

    It is you who do not see the hypocrisy in Muhammad's statement, in order to promote a religion that totally contradicts God, Muhammad had to accuse 2 world religions of being falsified

    Of the world's faiths only Islam is the most violent to this day because only Islam does NOT come from God

  • its not anger, more frustration. I have already said i'm not here to defend Islam, it can stand on its record. What i'm trying to say is that the things you are accusing Islam of can also be said of Judaism and Christianity. What happened to the log in your eye. The upsurge in violence in the middle east can in part be attributed to american evangelists whole heartedly goading muslims and supporting zionist propaganda. I'm trying to get you to think objectively for a change.

  • What Jews and Christians have done wrong differs from Islam because only the Koran teaches hate the non believer, only Islam teaches conquer the world , and that is the big difference

    Sept.11,2001 was due to the Muslims blaming Americans for the Muslim nations loosing the war against Israel

    Try to get your own self to think objectively because only Muslims are the aggressors,no one else

    They always blame the victims but it is Muslims who are the aggressors

  • America encouraged religious extremism during the russian occupation of Afganistan, even funding the maddrasa (sp) which promoted extremism as it helped destabilise the region and Russian power in the area. Indeed Osama bin laden once thanked the U.S. for its support against the 'Russian Oppressors' However America's actions and interest in the area due to the resources meant that the the people rose up against the 'western oppressor'

    Read the 9/11 report

  • Islamic extremism existed long before America's involvment with Afganistan against the Soviet Union

    The Afganistan thought they won the war but it was the Americans behind them and this fake confidence made the Muslims think they could conquer the US, then if so, Israel and the whole world would follow

    There was no American interest in anything in Afganistan, they have nothing, it was America's goal only to win against the Soviet Union which happened so

    Read real reports instead

  • I made the point about afganistan because you sited the case of nine eleven and even though the terrorists involved were mostly saudi arabia the main support came from afganistan. You claimed the reason was because muslims blamed america for Israeli aggression, which is partly true, they were using american arms after all. If you read what i wrote i'm saying that america has partial responsibility for the rise in extremism as it's foreign policy has done it no favours. which report have you read

  • Islam was always an aggressor and it continues to be so in Africa

    Israel did not win because of American arms, at all

    Let me tell you, they won because of God and God will protect them even against Muslims

    It is the rebirth of Israel and the false belief that America supported Israel, that caused the Islamic terrorists attacks and extremism in order to ouste out the Jews from Israel which will not happen

  • Are you saying that America does not support the nation of Israel?

    That Israel's success in the six day war was because of divine intervention and not because of the American arms and training they had received? Why do you think Hamas uses rpgs? Because they don't have smart bombs.

    Israel's military superiority is not a matter of faith its because they have a stockpile american arms. They have nuclear weapons for crying out loud. That's either charmingly naive or irretrievably stupid.

  • America is not the backbone of Israel at all

    It is neither naive or stupid

    You under estimate the intelligence of the Jewish people, they were and perhaps still are the best of humankind in intelligence

    If they had American weapons they paid for them long in advance because they always knew they were surrounded by people who hated them

    even so it is God who protects them and no one else

  • What?

    What do you mean 'if'

    Israel does have american weapons.

    America does have a stockpile of weapons there. If you give me enough time i could probably get the number for the amount of money and arms which america has given to Israel since they created the state.

    I grow uncertain as to your knowledge of the situation.

  • You did not complain when American supplied Afganistan with weapons and won the war against the Soviet Union for the Muslims, did you

    America is not an oppressor but lifted even Muslim nations out of pure poverty and backwardness that you today take for granted

    America blessed the world with great inventions that came to them from God and they in turn blessed the world

    by planes, tv, cars, free education, computers etc etc etc

    Israel belongs to God period

  • Again you are missing the point. Thank goodness for canada.

    Now that is too much. So say the inventions or innovations came from God is to mock all human endeavour.

    Do you even know what Israel means?

    This is taking a turn for the worse and you reveal too much of yourself in comments such as these.

    And i still want to know which report you have read. Why are you shirking the question?

  • All inventions come from God for humankind was created to work alongside God in nuturing our world

    Are you asking what report have I read pretaining to Israel or to Afganistan or to Sept.11 or all three

    You ask for proof like a Muslim when Muhammad gave no proof

    you yourself do not give references to documents

    Should I have these documents in my hand?

    When It is not necessary because we will never see eye to eye even if I possessed true documents

  • My comments were based on the 9/11 commission, set up to investigate this very matter, to which you replied 'read some real reports'

    I am asking, such as... Real reports like what?

    The nine eleven concluded motives for the attack were because of U.S. foreign policy decisions such as "confronting Moscow in Afghanistan, inserting the U.S. military in the Persian Gulf," and "strengthening Israel as a base for a southern flank against the Soviets"

    My cards are on the table Which Report did you read

  • Good your cards are on the table

    but you are still in denial that it was Muslims who attacked America because they believe they won the war against the super power of the Soviet Union and they believed they could easily over power the United States

    and where does this come from but the many years of documentaries on the subject

    However Israel still will be defended by God against all who come to oppose its existence and I put that on your table

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  • I told you the source is many documentaries along the way, I didn't know I was to jot down who wrote what when

    I remember and I told you what I know

    Muslims attacked and that is the teachings of the Koran which states kill the infidel where you find them

    God is Knowable and God is with all people and proof of God is with you is you have intuition for that is how God is with you and guides you even if you are an Atheist

    and only Now you tell me you are atheist

  • I could explain why i don't consider myself a christian anymore if that would compensate?

  • I don't think I could handle why you are not a Christian anymore except I would blame the churches the church spoke in place of Jesus who speaks to each of us and the church kept Jesus nailed to the cross but the church has its own history which is similar to the Aztec abomination of human sacrifice

  • and you still have not shared which Church you belong to. I am always interested to hear the flipside.

    Hows this, you say something good about the Islamic faith and i'll say something good about something of your choice. Lets try and clear the air.

  • Indeed Christianity is my choice based on research and evidence

    Those in Islam are not allowed to question their faith and they are told those who reject Islam are evil and that is propoganda

    Ok I will say 2 things about Islam that is good, it is not Muslims fault that they were born into Islam and Most Muslims try to be good and 2 Islam will not survive upon the return of Jesus because Islam is man made and it contributes to human suffering in many ways

  • Which denomination of Christianity, are you a baptist? Born again, lutheran, orthodox, what exactly.

    As you that utterly insincere statement, don't be obtuse, you know that is not what i meant. Say something good about one of their achievements or actions and i shall do the same about something of your choice. Prove you can think objectively.

    Which Report did you read which makes you think the 9/11 report is a work of fiction.

    This is an olive branch.

  • Muslims are responsible for attacking America 911 and it only takes a few of them to control large groups of them, because they are like the religious police that punish Muslims not Muslim enough to this day

    Sept.11,2001 was a day when man took judgement out of God's hands unleasing hell and Muslims who are terrorists do not go to paradise with dancing virgins awaiting for them, instead they go to hell because they learnt upon their death they attack God when they attack innocent people

  • Which reports on the nine eleven attacks have led you to the conclusion that the report by the nine elven commission, which supports my statements on the subject, is fictional?

    I don't want religious dogma, i don't want you say something idiotic like 'god told me' please answer the question. Which report.

    Which sect of christianity are you affiliated to, it should not be a source of shame.

  • I do not belong to any denomination and I have no shame to say God did tell me because I know God and I experience God's presence throughout my life time and to this very day for that was and is the whole point of Jesus's teachings: He offered believers to experience His presence and I do

    Therefore I embrace all denominations and I embrace all human kind but Islam is not from God proven by Muhammad's own false claim in the Koran and by God's choice of Isaac over Ishmael

  • Honestly, I can think of nothing good to say about Muslims, they never invented anything, every nation they have they took through violence, and Islam itself is a religion of hatred,violence, war, oppression, it is not from God but uses God

    So I can't say anything good except the people themselves are innocent but fearful to question their Koran because of the religious police and extremists as well as Muhammad's claim we will chastise you in this life time and in the next

  • Go into google and type in Abbassid Dynasty.

    You have really disappointed me, i thought a follower of christ would be less close minded to an ancient culture that far out reaches any problems you have with its religious beliefs.

  • First of all, you are deceiving to say I disappointed you when there was no room in your mind for any other option

    Don't call closed minded when I am not a Muslim

    I am a Christian telling you, the Jews are God's chosen people and it is Muslims whose minds are closed to that fact but they will learnt it the hard way and that is absolute

  • I really thought that you would know enough of the world to know at least one thing good about Islam. This discourse has been going long enough for you to cheat and do a quick google. I really thought you would say something to your credit. It was intended so we could both say something that would appease the other and act as a peacebroker but instead its just shown how aweful the situation is. How can you make your comments when you don't even have a basic understanding of the people?

  • I know nothing good about Islam and I do know alot about the world

    I do not cheat and I do not do a quick google, is that what you do?

    You never thought I would say anything to my credit because you rejected me from the beginning

    There can be no peace between us for Islam is not a religion of peace but a religion of war,deception and oppression

    When you ask for proof, begin with the Koran itself, ask where is its proof and you will find none

  • My initial objections to this video was the logic it used to justify the claim that he had proof that Jesus was God. My point was that in using the bible, using the same logic i had proof that Jesus was not god. However you came along with you built in anti islamic prejudice and you come out with comments that make me ashamed to have ever considered myself a christian. I was fully willing to be swayed by your argument but you have brought forth none, merely revealing you ignorance on the subject

  • When you experience Jesus you will know he is God for he knew you before you were born that is when you really were a spirit keeper

    You were never really a Christian, you were merely born into that faith

    and if I made you feel ashamed of it is because you are a liar with no intentions of returning to Christianity long before I came here

    I am not ignorant of the subjects we spoke about, rather you reject them no matter what I would say because you hope Islam is truth but it isn't

  • th? what has being close minded got to do with being muslim christian jewish? You can't ignore the achievements of others just because you don't like their religion. The tribes of central america permitted human sacrifice but i can say they were incredible architects, they had even developed a year calendar more accurate than Christian europe.

  • To like or dislike is not the issue, the issue is Muhammad claimed Islam is the true religion over all others

    He claimed the Bibles of 2 religions were falsified and he never gave proof and he could not know the different languages of the Bible

    Islam can't have achievments because it punishes those who do not conform

    All inventions did not come from the Muslims, as I said they were dirt poor until the Americans made them rich

  • The Aztec were astronomical knowledgeble but they practiced human sacrifice and that is an abomination based on what they believed

    and such beliefs were wrong but they produced corn, potatoes, chocolate and medicines and they are a good people today and I respect them

  • I agree with you, finally. I acknowledge their incredible achievements even if i do not believe in their (then) religious doctrine.

    Not one of Europe's better moments.

  • Great incredible achievements for the Aztec despite a painful religious doctrine.

    A Great People despite they were deceived into believing human sacrifice would improve their crops and social lives etc without realizing they were ridding themselves of their greatest resource, humankind

  • Ok tell me why you are an atheist

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  • Tell me what is a  theist

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  • Ok you are saying you believe in a God who embraces all humankind

    which the true God does already

    I also believe in evolution but having God as the creator of existence for God not science gives each person an importance and a purpose in being alive

    How about would you like to go one step beyond merely believing in God and actually experiencing God for that too is your God given right?

  • I've had my own moments where i felt close to God, I'm a bit tied up right now so i'll be back a reply later.

    I'm make a vid about why i'm no longer Christian but i'll give one reason in the form of a questions.

    Bonjournuit90, what is the number of the Beast as written in the book of revelations.

  • 666, man

    but Islam is from satan, and satan is the lies people believe about God for God is knowable, accessible and loveable to All people

    Sweet Dreams, and dreams are from God :)

  • this is when i get to go 'AH HA' the earliest known written record , in the original text has the number of the beast as 616, not 666. The reason for the discrepancy? Translation, human error and just changes over time, 666 has a better ring to it. The text upon which christianity is based upon are reliant not upon God or divine inspiration but human effort and sadly, human fallibility. This was the easiest example i could give.

    I believe in the philosophy of Jesus, but i don't think he was God.

  • Jesus is real, he came and he fulfilled over 200 prophecies and he taught he is God who is in all people

    and if 666 is wrong so be it, it does not change the fact that Jesus is God who is active and present in our personal lives and in the world at large

    He claimed he is God and he proved it

    He said I gave them eternal life, (and only God can give eternal life) the Jews said blasphemy you a mere man claim to be God

  • My point was that the means by which we have any information on Jesus the Nazarene are flawed, and were edited. I mean, just look at the different editions of the bible and the controversy caused when they included the footnotes of translators as part of the original text. If looked at with the sort of scrutiny we expect of a modern work of literature that claims to be true, the bible doesn't really hold up. I mean just look at the nativity, a massive fiction.

  • The most important information on Jesus remains in the Bible, it is neither flawed nor edited rather due to the first Christians who were called Followers of the Way (to experience God) were persecuted for the first 320 years and this persecution of the teachers led to the lack of understanding of the Scriptures

  • Think of the fact most people on earth could not read or write up until recently, for that was a guarded skill of the upper classes.

    Both my own GrandMothers could not read or write.

    The Bible points to the fact that God desires to be experienced and from that experience comes from God true guidance in all things which removes lovelessness and sufferings from our lives and ultimately as more people become aware of God's presence in their own life, it will remove wrongs from all the world

  • The point of the nativity is God came into humanform

    and that is not a massive fiction but a miraculous truth

    So what they do not know the exact day or year, God came as God incarnate to teach he is with and in all people on earth John 14:17

  • Look, from what i know, Jesus was a man. He had a mum, a dad and a number of siblings. Everything that followed was interpreted.

    He had a philosophy that scared the crap out of the establishment and he died. The details of the nativity were complete fabrications. There are no records of an Augustan census, herod died 4 years 'bc' and during his reign Quirinius was not governor of Syria. only Josephus mentions a census in 6 ad and it didn't require people to return to their hometown.

  • God came into human form, he had a human body susceptible to injury and death but he still did miracles, he still fortold the future, he still could read people's mind, he walked on water

    He said he gave us eternal life and he said he is the Light which created the world, and although he came into the world, the world did not recognize him

    He died then he rose from the dead to teach he is in all people to guide them, not to scare them but to protect them

  • and the records you are basing what you know were blatantly corrupt to the point that fact is intermingled with fiction.

  • Truly the Bible is far too serious and ancient for you to make that claim that the Bible is corrupt when God is real and  God is active in our world and in the lives of all people on earth

  • What do you know about one of my favourite passages; John 8:3-11?

    Would this constitute the word of God?

  • Well not all early manuscripts have this document John 8:3-11 however the message here is don't judge others

    and that is very important as part of Jesus' teachings, for he often stressed don't judge others lest you be judged and that is because it is easy to see the wrongs in others because we ignore the wrongs in ourselves

  • to quote professor Ehrman, a champion of the faithful:

    'the story is not found in our oldest and best manuscripts of the gospel of John; its writing style is very different from what we find in the rest of John (including stories immediately and after); and it includes a large number of words and phrases that are otherwise alien to the gospel. the conclusion is unavoidable: this passage was not originally part of the gospel."

    That which we call the 'word of God' has been fashioned my man.

  • There are many documents that never made it into the canon, the Kaabala of the Jewish faith is a mystical writing in Aramaic that found its way into Spain, and this document absorbed by the Jews come from Jesus and the Jews do not know it, and to Jesus all that matters is that the Jews absorb from this document a greater understanding of God and their relationship to God for that is how God is like

    God gives knowledge freely to help us John 8:3-11 still teaches us not to judge others

  • you can say it has a good moral, but so do the stories of a.a.milne but i wouldn't try and pass winnie the pooh off as the authentic word of god. I don't take my morality from the bible and i don't need to. We have the capacity for good and evil and it is our actions that define us, not our faith.

    I grow tired of this subject, i'm going on to greener pastures. Enjoy this life, who knows if you wind up being right you'll have a grand stand view of me burning in hell till then i'll eat shellfish

  • Silly you Heaven is God

    There is no greater knowledge then experiencing God for yourself who is Jesus

    I have all my life saw Jesus as separate as the son of God until I learnt Jesus is the Creator of the world of humankind and is in all people to guide them

    I experienced Jesus first and then I learnt from the Bible and it took me decades to learn from the Bible Jesus is God and from experiencing Jesus I learnt the true meaning of heaven is knowing God

    whereas Hell is not knowing God

  • I can't understand when you claim you are a theist yet you haven't understood God is involved in our world and did speak through many of the prophets and Jesus did portray how God is like such as God is compassionate and is against oppression

    You are bent on rejecting Jesus' teachings altogether

    I wonder why

  • I should clarify, i love the philosophy of Jesus, i just don't like the claims of later men who claimed he was God.

    Follow the message-don't worship the man.

    Anywho bye bye for now, maybe i'll see you again another time someone tried to prove Jesus was God.

    Peace.

  • Only God exists and God is knowable and accessible to all of life and God desires to be experienced rather than merely believed in

    I believe God came as Jesus to teach he is in all people to guide them and that he would never send anyone to die on the cross, rather he would come himself which he did

  • When you experience God's presence and God's own guidance, then you are no longer misguided by anyone in the world for many false prophets have come into the world, deceiving people and Muhammad truly was one of them

    To experience God is the greatest experience in life, for it gives meaning and purpose to all of life and to your own life as nothing else can

    What is important in the Bible has not been tampered as the facts remain in John 14:20, Matthew 28-18 and in Isaiah 9:6, Matthew 7:7-8

  • I hope you will find more close moments with God for God promised to be with you always to love you and to guide you, no matter what

  • I believe the purpose of life is to die. I'm not being nihilistic but humanity is the only species aware of its own mortality, its what gives life its bittersweet tang. If you always focus on preparing for what'll happen in the 'next life' then you forget to truly life this life, here and now. I'll not get into too much now, i'll try and get a vid rolling. One of my human weaknesses-i'm crap with cameras.

  • All that is needed to know about Jesus, is that he claimed he was God and he showed how he was God by his behavior, his compassion, his miracles, his ability to read people's minds and to accurately predict the future

    He spoke Aramaic but the New Test. was in Greek and in Latin

    Even so the most important teachings of Jesus is that he rose from the dead to prove he is in all people to love them and to guide them but Christians for their faith were offered awareness of His loving presence

  • Just as long as you are not a Muslim that is the worst fake violent religion on earth that does not come from God

  • Worse than Satanism? I would think that would be pretty high on your crap list. I think some sect of christianity are far worse than Islam. I mean some of the evangelical churches are appalling, they say 9/11 was caused by America for allowing abortion and Homosexuality, as if God would be so capricious.

  • Yes some sects of Christianity are worse than some sects of Islam

    I agree with you that God is not capricious as to be vengeful against abortionists and homosexuality

  • I don't even know what creationism means

    all I know is God created humankind and our world and God desired to be experienced by all people naturally without fear or force

    Those who do experience God experience true paradise or heaven

    That is all God wants for our world, heaven on earth

    Jews are still God's chosen people but God loves all humankind even those who do not believe in him because only God exists and all people are part of God, for nothing can exist outside of God

  • I can't believe you are ignoring the trials of Galileo, the inquisition, the crusades ect. Whatever your prejudice is against Islam, it has just as much right to exist as Christianity and whatever claim of wrongdoing against science literature or mankind that you accuse Islam of, i assure you Christianity can match and raise.

  • I am not ignoring the trials of Galileo nor the Inquistion for these events did happen

    because the first Christians were persecuted for the first 320 years then their faith was adopted by their persecutors the Roman Empire who latter became the Ottoman Empire

    Islam does not have the right to exist just as the Dome of the Rock has no right to be in Jerusalem because Islam began with a false prophet

    Furthermore only Islam is a danger to the world this very day for it never was from by God

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  • and i don't think you know me well enough to speak of my honour.

  • Spirit Keeper I don't need to know that you do not know the significance of your own name because you regard Islam as a religion from God when it is a religion from man as its violence,hatred and oppression reveals that it is from man using God

    Your Spirit would have informed you of that truth

    For Spirit is more one's true idenity as God is spirit as well and God is with each person on earth whether they believe it or not

    Moreover God only speaks the truth to all people

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  • Thank goodness for that, at least you can use google. I wouldn't trust Wikipedia too much, although the claim that the celebration of Christmas pre-dates is shown to be false if continue reading that quote. It talks of Caesar Augustus trying to shorten Saturnalia, and Augustus was around before christianity.

    And i have the half brain.

    So, seeing as you are so knowledgeable tell me about the feast of all souls? What avenue of history can wikipedia tell you now?

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  • Dude, while I agree with you, I gotta warn ya Badmouthing unbelievers ain't gonna get them saved, so you might wanna reword your statements.