Mechwarrior 4 The problems with Free Style

[mysticalpotato86]

Looks dumb, the arms arent moving where the reticule is, lasers and ppcs just firing out sideways, rather than in a straight line from the barrel. I've encountered it in standard build too, but since you are more or less pointing your whole torso at the enemy, its unnoticeable.

[mwhighlander]

Its easier to just use a gamepad and aim with standard config imo. The time it takes apparently to line up a shot, strafe, avoid damage to your CT... just seems counter-intuitive.

[Zefmaster59]

Lol^^ mais tu te fais canarder quand même ^^

[TokuinB]

you see those white things in the sky comming at you, those are missles, you should prolly turn lol

[viperkilo]

i think another solution would be for the reticle to cause either to torso to pivot/yaw when ever it reaches the edge,

how does it work when you look Left/right, though?

[IrishBagel07]

why have you got the free style thing enabled?

set the mouse to control the torso it works alot better control wise

[TearsOfWar1]

So this is like MW3 style I guess? Where in the options does it say you can do free style mode?

[Schlimmerfinger87]

i have the green pepper / ubisoft version. and it does'nt istall properly on xp. Now i have windows 7 and haven't tried it yet. Does anybody know how i can make it work? I also own mech warrior vengeance and the black knights expansion. Same problems. thx

[Rynx214]

So mostly what you're talking about isn't control issues, it's knock, right? Weapon knock (and subsequent auto-return) are much more pronounced in MW4 because there's only 1 tier of aiming controls instead of 2. Naturally it will be harder to hit the enemy when you have to deal with knock and aiming in 2 separate controls.

Personally I disliked the MW3 style very much. It handed a large advantage to mouse users over joystick and keyboard users.

[Rynx214]

@Rynx214

If you think about it, floating reticules would be easier to use at range, but direct control would be better in close quarters. MW3 adjusted knock and mechs' screen sizes so floating reticule would be viable in close combat, because there was no other option. This is not broken, it's simply balanced with other control schemes. I can't wait to use both!

That being said, a lot of the people flaming you are just retards. I know you guys are putting a lot of work into this. Keep it up!

[Buemmo]

A Cyclops! Oh i love that Mech

[daydreamer92ify]

does anyone still play this?

[mastererik323]

I still play mw4 mercs vengeance and black knight

[extremexderek]

yes

[magic666z]

this video is abouth how Free Style sucks

not how you dont know how to turn it of right? xD

[Pariah1974]

What are you trying to prove by not fighting back, not avoiding attacks, and basically playing like a stuffed dummy?

Been playing MW4 for years and have no idea what you're complaining about.

Looks to me like you suck. It's called SPACEBAR...hit it to recenter your torso, dipshit.

[buzzlitebeersr]

@Pariah1974

This is not exactly what is being shown. The free ret in this case is me attempting to use a mech3 configuration (tested in mech3 before I went on this). The mech becomes unusable, dodging etc... because of knock and the lack of auto center as implemented. When you play mech3, the auto correction makes it easier.

[buzzlitebeersr]

@Pariah1974 Take a look at the mechwarrior 3 free ret video i have in my channel for comparison.

[1sidsquid]

@Pariah1974

what he means is that when you take an ac 20 to your torso, it usually brings your nose to where ever it was before you got hit.

[Pariah1974]

@1sidsquid So?

So the mech's drive different than MW3? Big effing deal?! I played both and never had a problem switching over.

It's crybaby shit about a game that was old when he posted the video. Get over it and play.

[1sidsquid]

@Pariah1974

He was simply trying to mod the game to make it suit his combat style. I bet he played PDG without the mod. And besides, i'd like to see you mod the game to that extent.

[Pariah1974]

@1sidsquid @1sidsquid How do you know I can't? You don't know who I am.

But I didn't need to, because I'm not a fucking baby. I learn to play the game, and don't mod it because I'm not as good at it as I think I should be.

Still crybaby shit, whether he can program or not. I've played MW3 and 4 and neither set of controls bothered me. Get over it, it's not worth a mod.

[1sidsquid]

@Pariah1974

I never said you couldn't. and btw y'ever hear of minecraft?(probably haven't).People mod the game to make it more enjoyable. I bet this guy could kick yours to Russia and back.

[Pariah1974]

@1sidsquid lmao!

What are you? Some kind of gaming hipster? No, I haven't heard of Minecraft. Only you in your secret clan of cool people (and the fucking Lego corporation) have heard of Minecraft.

And sure, people mod all the time. What they don't do is complain about the controls because they weren't like the previous game, and mod them rather than learn the new game.

Have I heard of Minecraft..lmao. Ever hear of Angry Birds?! BUWAHAHAHAHA!!

Dipshit.

[1sidsquid]

@Pariah1974

OMG I'M SO SORRY!!! I thought you were criticizing his mod! You're criticizing WHY he made the mod! ok, so sorry! P.S. although, it's kinda tempting to see how the game would be changed by that! :) Respect acknowledged!

[IKillLittlegirls]

looks like you need a joystick,

and to learn how to play the game haha

[BioDiesel112]

MW3 was better

[Barcode711]

How can you center your torso on your crosshair?

[nikku9000]

*gasps* NO!!...LIES an awesome can not be raped so easily...mien gotz....its. horrible. i can't watch......TAKE IT AWAY!!

[ComprimisedXInsanity]

Is there a Hotkey for free style? Like can you enable/disable it with a strike of a button?

[Hask79]

Hehe yeah, when i first tried free style it took me only 5 seconds to determine how ueless it was. Although i must admit i never really experimented with it. Try a jump capable mech and use freestyle to aim down from mid air, it might be useful there, although i would simply define a key for down view.

[VpVanja]

I think the free reticule in MW4 mercs pm4 will be used in very different way compared to MW3. It wont be the most important thing (you will be able to play without ever turning it on), but it wont be useless either.

[ljp167]

man u suck!

[Talonsting981]

if u will notice how the cyclops toke NO DAMAGE........THINK BEFOR U OMMENT

[Talonsting981]

-_-........nvm u dont get it

[mbs145]

The point of this video was to show how free style reticle in mechwarrior 4 could lead to that person getting beat around, you fucktard.

[frogjedi4]

What did you use to record this video? The quality is very good.

[gds0117]

I played MW4. Never saw you in the MW League. Although I have confirmed there was someone out there with that handle long long ago.

So, you going to try the mod for Crysis? Would be nice if something new for Mech came out.

[buzzlitebeersr]

Absolutely, I did not play in MWLeague. When I did play mw4 competitively it was in MW4 Vengeance, a LONG time ago.

I have also maintained an active role in testing mektek mech packs. The goal of this video was to run a mw3 config in mech4 and see what it would do when using freestyle reticule, something I am particularly good at. I did test by launching mech3 and running around to make sure it wasn't just faulty memory. I may post a youtube vid of it.

[gds0117]

Understand and thank you for demoing this.

Really hoping for a new and better MW game to come out.

[gds0117]

Don't see the problem either. That build was pretty weak, small wonder you got fragged.

You say you were once of the best in MW3, but never saw this handle in MW League.

[archangel670]

hey buzz was one of the best there was was show some respect i was ranked pretty high myself and i dont even consider myself on the same ground as buzz played on who were you i played almost to the bitter end of its demise on the zone id imagine id know who you are if you listed your id

[buzzlitebeersr]

The mech config wasnt the issue, it was the controlling of it. If you played MW3 with mouse/keyboard you would see right away the differences. (IE the head does not bobble back to center etc..).

I was good at mech3, and the "one of the best" moniker was earned (IE not just stated) I won 7 out of 10 of the for money mw3 tourneys held before mw3 meltdown tourney, and won motorcycles during the main tourney against a large field of individuals who wanted to win those motorcycles instead of me.

[jlrobins87]

i dont see the problem.

[buzzlitebeersr]

Not used to youtubes coments. Too Short. Anyway in mech3 it was easy to use the free ret because of how the mech behaved and the controls. IN mech4 the mech does not behave the same and it causes issues. It is difficult to keep control of the mech while using free reticule. If it was intuitive like mech3 (a game I am very good at) then the movements themselves would be intuitive. In fact, when not being shot it is easy to move around. When shot, not so much.