the Randal model #14 with finger grooves is actually a bad knife for fighting, it really limits the grip. The Joe Kious w/ subhilt allows for more grips and even proper back cuts. However, traditionally a dagger is considered pure offense as it's double-edged. As they say, "It Cuts Both Ways". Inherently more dangerous yet more fragile, you can't reinforce cuts with the live hand, etc
Joe Kious(1st blade) is an outstanding knifemaker and talented artist, i believe his focus now is on knife art, with some unique models(real piece of jewelery) being sold for thousands of dollars. But all knifes showed are excellent choices.
I was really impressed, when I saw the dvd... The end was different!!! Italian state tv had shown a shorter version. In the original version, the photographer meets his girl again, in an archeological site.
@serotta2 The incredible thing is that around the XVI century sword and dagger trainings were accompanied (is it the right word? Sorry for my english) by percussions!!!!!! Mr. Salles must know far more than it seems...
The beauty of this Joe kious knife is unbelievable.Look at the balance he swings i't with...amazing. I would like to know who got/own it now - and I think the price would be 10 grand, seen in the light of Joe don't makes fixed blades anymore. If i got the money I'll buy it.The movie are also known as "EXPOSURE" I got it on videotape - and I think, I have seen it on DVD..trying to find info about it, and post the info as comment to this video.
Thanks a lot for your help, but I've got a question for the knife expert/enthusiast you are: don't you find strange that a knife fighter like Hermes, very keen to the rapid change from overhand to underhand, fells in love for a sub-hilted double edged fighter??? I've always found it an impossible movement.
I may be reading into the dialogue, but it seems Hermes chooses the Kios for Peter, who is a relative beginner. While the subhilt does make grip transition impractical, it also offers more stability for the grip, which is very important for a novice. Also, the Randall model 14 is considerably heavier than the Kios, which, combined with its finger-grooved handle, can make grip transition difficult as well. Finally, the Kios's full double-edge make flipping the knife less necessary.
You're absolutely right. Anyway I'd have choosen the Kious first... also, the relatively short grip of the model 14 would have made the transition even more difficult (and dangerous).
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the Randal model #14 with finger grooves is actually a bad knife for fighting, it really limits the grip. The Joe Kious w/ subhilt allows for more grips and even proper back cuts. However, traditionally a dagger is considered pure offense as it's double-edged. As they say, "It Cuts Both Ways". Inherently more dangerous yet more fragile, you can't reinforce cuts with the live hand, etc
jamesejudy3 3 months ago
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jamesejudy3 3 months ago
i'll take the randall model 2 - 8 inch blade any day of the week.
realityfighting 5 months ago
I have a Randall Model 14 waited 3 years it was worth it.
Amerikick1961 8 months ago
Joe Kious(1st blade) is an outstanding knifemaker and talented artist, i believe his focus now is on knife art, with some unique models(real piece of jewelery) being sold for thousands of dollars. But all knifes showed are excellent choices.
rashkolnikov000 10 months ago
I was really impressed, when I saw the dvd... The end was different!!! Italian state tv had shown a shorter version. In the original version, the photographer meets his girl again, in an archeological site.
iacomastro 11 months ago
who made the shoulder holsters in this movie ?
MegaRowan1 1 year ago
@MegaRowan1 Whoever a leather worker is able to make one.
iacomastro 3 months ago
I wonder if Kios sill makes the stormbringer knife....hmmm would be nice to have one made by him or a resonable homage done
I have a Black jack attack clone of the Randall model 14...awesome blade
deathofkindness 1 year ago
Hey, does anyone know what the knife is on the far right?
twofifteenpointone 2 years ago
Benchmade Delta Raider
Omsbon 2 years ago
@Omsbon Thanks, man! I love that knife. Any idea if they come up for sale and for how much?
twofifteenpointone 2 years ago
it's been discontinued for years, so I think ebay is your best chance. Guess it would go for over 200 bucks depending on condition.
Omsbon 2 years ago
I love the knife holster! Hahaha!
scudracer 2 years ago
The Randall model 14 Attack in this film is the knife of my dreams.
geezerhack 2 years ago 5
@geezerhack Try a Cold Steel Military Classic R1 or a Cold Steel ODA, which is cheaper. They are both "modern interpretations" as Lynn Thompson says.
nestornegron 8 months ago
The film is great, we all agree... but, have you listen the music??? Damn it's great!!!
iacomastro 2 years ago
@iacomastro Yes, the music is this scene is absolutely wonderful. Magical.
serotta2 11 months ago
@serotta2 The incredible thing is that around the XVI century sword and dagger trainings were accompanied (is it the right word? Sorry for my english) by percussions!!!!!! Mr. Salles must know far more than it seems...
iacomastro 11 months ago
@serotta2 I've been looking for this soundtrak for ages....
iacomastro 3 months ago
@iacomastro Yes, its brilliant; the music in this scene sends chills down my spine! Not sure this soundtrack was ever released? Anyone?
serotta2 3 months ago
@serotta2 I'm sure the composer's name is in the titles at the end. Don't know anithing more...
iacomastro 3 months ago
I love it.....I've been looking for that seller for 25 years :)
Panzon300 2 years ago 5
"Honed by hand on natchrul shtones ... byy ... masterrsss"
One my all-time fave-o-rit scenes in cinema ever. Entirely contrived, but so enjoyable.
Boltivator 2 years ago
I also bought the book by Rubem Fonseca btw, it sucks wombat dongs!
BlackTalon53 2 years ago
I liked the book--it's different from the movie though.
BigDaddyBongos 2 years ago
I bought the DVD on ebay...it always gets hung up on one scene and the player crashes. Thank god the fights work just fine! :-D
BlackTalon53 2 years ago
One year after my last comment, I still find impossible to get an "Exposure Knife" photo.... Help us Mr. Kious.
iacomastro 2 years ago
I personally like the Fairbairn. Very strong. Easy to hide. Fast draw.
spadaydaga 2 years ago 2
@spadaydaga And a lethal throwing knife, too.
iacomastro 2 years ago
Where the hell can I get this DVD? Anyone know the actors, and what year it was filmed?
RatDrall 3 years ago
Peter Coyote as Mandrake and Tcheky Karyo as Hermes. The movie was filmed in 1991. I got my DVD on Ebay.
Omsbon 3 years ago
You can get VHS on Ebay but I have not seen any DVD come up yet
hummervalley 2 years ago
"Honed by hand on natural stonesss ... by masters."
I wish I'd scene this in the theaters.
And not to flog the deceased equine, but that Kious subhilt ... absolutely elegant, vicious beauty.
Jazzstanton 3 years ago
The beauty of this Joe kious knife is unbelievable.Look at the balance he swings i't with...amazing. I would like to know who got/own it now - and I think the price would be 10 grand, seen in the light of Joe don't makes fixed blades anymore. If i got the money I'll buy it.The movie are also known as "EXPOSURE" I got it on videotape - and I think, I have seen it on DVD..trying to find info about it, and post the info as comment to this video.
minmsnpost 3 years ago
any links on the dvd copy? I only found amazon's $30 vhs tapes.. no thanks..
mrshotgun 3 years ago
If you search the internet, it is possible to find pictures of the knife you seek. Type "Joe Kious subhilt fighter" in the search engine.
As you probably know, Joe can no longer make fixed-blade knives (I think due to arthritis), which is why this knife is so rare.
However, if you like the design, you may want to a De Leon model A (subhilt fighter). Other makers construct a similar model.
Continue searching, and you will find at least something close to the J.K. subhilt.
quanfa88 3 years ago
Thanks a lot for your help, but I've got a question for the knife expert/enthusiast you are: don't you find strange that a knife fighter like Hermes, very keen to the rapid change from overhand to underhand, fells in love for a sub-hilted double edged fighter??? I've always found it an impossible movement.
iacomastro 3 years ago
I may be reading into the dialogue, but it seems Hermes chooses the Kios for Peter, who is a relative beginner. While the subhilt does make grip transition impractical, it also offers more stability for the grip, which is very important for a novice. Also, the Randall model 14 is considerably heavier than the Kios, which, combined with its finger-grooved handle, can make grip transition difficult as well. Finally, the Kios's full double-edge make flipping the knife less necessary.
quanfa88 3 years ago
You're absolutely right. Anyway I'd have choosen the Kious first... also, the relatively short grip of the model 14 would have made the transition even more difficult (and dangerous).
iacomastro 3 years ago
Hermes don't pick Kious for Peter or himself, but for some unknown "friend", maybe collector.
withnoreason 3 years ago
I found impossible to obtain even a photo of the mithy Joe Kious "Exposure Knife".
iacomastro 3 years ago