sam, joe, whatever the fuck your name is... yeah, you've worked for the things you have, but you have a tax lien on you, therefore you didnt pay TAXES. and as we all know, you dont own ANYTHING until you pay taxes on them first. therefore you own nothing! dont start bitching about high taxes, when 1.) youre not paying taxes, and 2.) you dont make enough money, yet. what a douche bag, i feel sorry for this guy.
FYI: For those of you that were unfortunately subjected to the latest commenter's ignorant comments--the self-professed "black republican" revealed themselves as being white in a different post.
But I guess posing as black made them feel like they could rant of N*gger 10 times in their post.
But to respond directly to the ignorant racist:
No one in their right mind would consider Colin Powell as someone who hates America.
So those like FOX news who edit out this tape to 5 sec and those who scream "SPREAD THE WEALTH" obviously chose to ignore the truth of the 6 min conversation(a pattern of the RNC and McCain Campaign).
But I have hope that truth will prevail, because I believe in the intelligence of Americans to go beyond soundbites to understand the truth.
And in this case, that Obama wants all Americans to have the opportunity to have the American dream-not just those who were born into making $4M a year.
and that the reason for going back to the Clinton years "is because 95% of small businesses make less than $250K. So what I want to do is give them a tax cut and other folks, who are, you know bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less" because the only people who have been getting a break the past 8 years has been those who much more than $250K.
"...end up paying less taxes under my plan and my approach than under John McCains plan I cant guarantee that, because I would have to take a look at your business."
Joe
"I understand that."
Earlier in the conversation, Obama explained how "Joe" would get a 50% tax cut for health care costs and "If your revenue is above $250K then from $250K down your taxes will stay the same." For the amount above $250K, the rate would go back to what it was under Bil Clinton (cont'd)
"..and I want to encourage it. One other thing I want to mention. For small business people, I'm going to eliminate capital gains tax. So, what it means is, if your business succeeds and you take it from a $250K business to a $500K business, that capital gains that you get, we're not going to tax you on it, because I want you to grow more. So, you're actually going to get some-you may end up, I'll have to look at your particular business, but you may end up (cont'd)
"...better off if you have a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you. And right now, everybody is so pinched that business is bad for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody. But listen, I respect what you do and I respect your question and even if I don't get your vote...
Joe
(laughs)
Obama
...I'm still going to be working hard on your behalf, because small businesses are what creates jobs in this country and I (cont'd)
"..and as a consequence the average wage and income for just ordinary folks--the vast majority of Ameicans, has actually gone down over the last 8 years...I don't mind paying just a little bit more than the waitress, whom I just met over there who's, things are slow. She can berely make the rent. My attitude is that, if the economy is good for folks from the bottom up, it's going to be good for everybody. If you've got a plumbing business, you're going to be better(cont'd)
I know anyone who just SHOUTS Obama said "SPREAD THE WEALTH" didn't actually see/hear the entire unedited 6 min. conversation.
If anyone wants to know the truth, I'll be happy to send you the entire transcript of what was said, but here is some of last 2 minutes of their conversation:
Obama:
"What has happened is that we've ended up--we've cut taxes a lot for people like me who make a lot more than $250K
Joe:
"Hmmm-mm."
Obama
"We haven't given a break to folks who make less and as a (cont'd)
The mass media VETTED Joe the Plumber more thoroughly in ONE WEEK than they have Obama since he announced he was running for President.
WTF?
And you're missing the point - it doesn't matter WHO (what,why, where, when) Joe the Plumber is, IT'S the QUESTION he asked and OBAMA's Michael Dukakis MOMENT when he revealed his SOCIALIST AGENDA for AMERICA - "SPREAD THE WEALTH!"
So, by not paying his back taxes, Joe isn't holding up his end of the deal. I'm paying ALL of my taxes, so I guess that I'd be making up for Joe's lack of personal responsibility, right? Joe, is it okay for me to support your sorry ass but not okay for you to pay your own tax bill to support government programs and initiatives that benefit all? You want to support the troops, Joe, and wrap yourself in that flag for the national media? PAY YOUR YOUR FAIR SHARE OF THE FUCKING TAXES, JOE!
Love how Libs are vilifying Joe the Plumber when you are supposedly voting for Barack Obama so he can supposedly HELP people like Joe. BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT.
STICK TO THE ISSUE!
The issue is that Barack Obama is a tried and true MARXIST SOCIALIST.
Who is Joe the Plumber? Another famous Republican plumber, unregluated of course since he is not actually legally a plumber- but the real thruth is he is the son of Gordon Liddy, who is really Sarah Palins lover, and Trig's Daddy!
Is anybody really surprised at this? I mean really. McCain's campaign is a complete joke. Huff-Post is reporting that this non-plumber is the son-in-law of Charles Keating from the Keating 5.
TEXAS TURN BLUE 012
kunzy3000 3 years ago
Can someone please lock Joe "The Plumber" in a cellar for 50 years?
fecalmatterofdeath 3 years ago
sam, joe, whatever the fuck your name is... yeah, you've worked for the things you have, but you have a tax lien on you, therefore you didnt pay TAXES. and as we all know, you dont own ANYTHING until you pay taxes on them first. therefore you own nothing! dont start bitching about high taxes, when 1.) youre not paying taxes, and 2.) you dont make enough money, yet. what a douche bag, i feel sorry for this guy.
Brandonly23 3 years ago 2
FYI: For those of you that were unfortunately subjected to the latest commenter's ignorant comments--the self-professed "black republican" revealed themselves as being white in a different post.
But I guess posing as black made them feel like they could rant of N*gger 10 times in their post.
But to respond directly to the ignorant racist:
No one in their right mind would consider Colin Powell as someone who hates America.
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
So those like FOX news who edit out this tape to 5 sec and those who scream "SPREAD THE WEALTH" obviously chose to ignore the truth of the 6 min conversation(a pattern of the RNC and McCain Campaign).
But I have hope that truth will prevail, because I believe in the intelligence of Americans to go beyond soundbites to understand the truth.
And in this case, that Obama wants all Americans to have the opportunity to have the American dream-not just those who were born into making $4M a year.
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
(cont'd from previous)
and that the reason for going back to the Clinton years "is because 95% of small businesses make less than $250K. So what I want to do is give them a tax cut and other folks, who are, you know bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less" because the only people who have been getting a break the past 8 years has been those who much more than $250K.
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
(cont'd from previous)
"...end up paying less taxes under my plan and my approach than under John McCains plan I cant guarantee that, because I would have to take a look at your business."
Joe
"I understand that."
Earlier in the conversation, Obama explained how "Joe" would get a 50% tax cut for health care costs and "If your revenue is above $250K then from $250K down your taxes will stay the same." For the amount above $250K, the rate would go back to what it was under Bil Clinton (cont'd)
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
(cont'd from previous)
"..and I want to encourage it. One other thing I want to mention. For small business people, I'm going to eliminate capital gains tax. So, what it means is, if your business succeeds and you take it from a $250K business to a $500K business, that capital gains that you get, we're not going to tax you on it, because I want you to grow more. So, you're actually going to get some-you may end up, I'll have to look at your particular business, but you may end up (cont'd)
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
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This part of the Obama talking points prove that Obama has no clue about the way small business works!!!
ImaEtart 3 years ago
(cont'd from previous)
"...better off if you have a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you. And right now, everybody is so pinched that business is bad for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody. But listen, I respect what you do and I respect your question and even if I don't get your vote...
Joe
(laughs)
Obama
...I'm still going to be working hard on your behalf, because small businesses are what creates jobs in this country and I (cont'd)
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
(cont'd from previous)
"..and as a consequence the average wage and income for just ordinary folks--the vast majority of Ameicans, has actually gone down over the last 8 years...I don't mind paying just a little bit more than the waitress, whom I just met over there who's, things are slow. She can berely make the rent. My attitude is that, if the economy is good for folks from the bottom up, it's going to be good for everybody. If you've got a plumbing business, you're going to be better(cont'd)
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
I know anyone who just SHOUTS Obama said "SPREAD THE WEALTH" didn't actually see/hear the entire unedited 6 min. conversation.
If anyone wants to know the truth, I'll be happy to send you the entire transcript of what was said, but here is some of last 2 minutes of their conversation:
Obama:
"What has happened is that we've ended up--we've cut taxes a lot for people like me who make a lot more than $250K
Joe:
"Hmmm-mm."
Obama
"We haven't given a break to folks who make less and as a (cont'd)
GettingtotheTruth2 3 years ago
The mass media VETTED Joe the Plumber more thoroughly in ONE WEEK than they have Obama since he announced he was running for President.
WTF?
And you're missing the point - it doesn't matter WHO (what,why, where, when) Joe the Plumber is, IT'S the QUESTION he asked and OBAMA's Michael Dukakis MOMENT when he revealed his SOCIALIST AGENDA for AMERICA - "SPREAD THE WEALTH!"
TruthFacts 3 years ago
So, by not paying his back taxes, Joe isn't holding up his end of the deal. I'm paying ALL of my taxes, so I guess that I'd be making up for Joe's lack of personal responsibility, right? Joe, is it okay for me to support your sorry ass but not okay for you to pay your own tax bill to support government programs and initiatives that benefit all? You want to support the troops, Joe, and wrap yourself in that flag for the national media? PAY YOUR YOUR FAIR SHARE OF THE FUCKING TAXES, JOE!
wafuuwafuu 3 years ago 3
That's how much "Joe" supposedly cares and supports the troops...by not his paying taxes.
thetruthspreads 3 years ago
Love how Libs are vilifying Joe the Plumber when you are supposedly voting for Barack Obama so he can supposedly HELP people like Joe. BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT.
STICK TO THE ISSUE!
The issue is that Barack Obama is a tried and true MARXIST SOCIALIST.
Obama's "Spread the Wealth" plan is SOCIALISM!
TruthFacts 3 years ago
Plus the guy is a scab.
Even if his boss has a license, Joe needed to be journeyman or at least an apprentice license in order to work.
The Plumbing Board are now considering sanctions against both.
thetruthspreads 3 years ago 3
He didn't say he was making half a mil. His middle name is Joseph.
What's Baracks middle name? Hussein! lol
God Bless America and Joe the Plumber.
chase82 3 years ago
I LOVE DAVID GERGIN <3
jamalsutube 3 years ago
Fox News just hired Joe to be their "man in the street"
roflmao
iamasmodai 3 years ago 2
what gimmick will McCain roll out next week?
ShutterCal 3 years ago 5
Joe six pack and Joe the plumber.
Republican's Wag The Dog
This man is contrived to keep your mind off the true facts.
bassmickeyd 3 years ago 5
Who is Joe the Plumber? Another famous Republican plumber, unregluated of course since he is not actually legally a plumber- but the real thruth is he is the son of Gordon Liddy, who is really Sarah Palins lover, and Trig's Daddy!
patriciagala 3 years ago 5
Is anybody really surprised at this? I mean really. McCain's campaign is a complete joke. Huff-Post is reporting that this non-plumber is the son-in-law of Charles Keating from the Keating 5.
cyoohoos 3 years ago 7
McCain's campaign is a total joke. This Sam-not-joe guy is jusst a one of extreme right wingnuts.
ekfhd001 3 years ago 7