haha. good to see some people aren't the usual skateboarding Mullen haters. That guy made me understand that anything is possible...on a drum kit skateboard...or this planet
Nothing wrong with changing beats up a bit, trying to be creative and off setting the high hat from the snare Gives it a nice flare. You cant put the same fuckn blast beat in every song , they would all sound the same.
"the problem is, single hihat blasting is fake..if you cant pull full blasts off at that tempo, go slower =/ or proceed the way you are if you will...but id never cheat like that to gain some speed, id rather play little slower and play it FOR REAL then just have a good right hand"
^^That whole comment is bullshit^^^
Blasting half speed with the left hand keeps you on time especially during live sets where you play for a long period of time. Even so, he's the one on stage not your sorry ass.
I dont think you got my point. I didnt criticize his playing. The ORIGINAL blast beats is when you hit the ride, hi-hat, cymbal, before every snare hit. I just commented because i thought it was funny what anthraxthreat said. I know that nowadays everything that involves fast snare playing is called a blast beat. Dont be so hostile next time.
a blast beat is a roll between the bass drum & snare. You can do whatever with the cymbals. The traditional blast has 8th notes on the hi hat but back in the day those guys in the 80's didn't play much faster than 200 bpm.
I don't see why you would "hate" it. Kai Hahto does some of his blasts this way. While everything else is going fast as hell, i'ts kool to have something keeping time. Of course, it's all a matter of opinion.
the problem is, single hihat blasting is fake..if you cant pull full blasts off at that tempo, go slower =/ or proceed the way you are if you will...but id never cheat like that to gain some speed, id rather play little slower and play it FOR REAL then just have a good right hand.....
@DisembowelMe why are you comparing a fill to a beat? apples to oranges . . . "Man, punk is so stupid. All they do is d-beat, they should just be flailing fills all the time."
@DisembowelMe I hate beats I cant play as well. hahaha. never heard of this project man, I'll check it out. You are to drumming what rodney mullen is to skateboarding. haha
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haha thats not a technique, you dont use a technique, you just practice what feels comfortable and relaxed. Swivel is made up by tim waterson (moron) george kollias even says it's just naturally occouring
how is swivel 'made up' but also occurs naturally? and technique is a practice that helps you stay comfortable and relaxed man... you kinda contradicted every statement you made here. cheers for input, though! you definitely understand more than most people!
ok, technique is like a way of playing somthing. k so the swivel shouldnt be a technique, because it happens naturally. if it doesnt naturally happen, it's just wasting energy moving yout foot from side to side, it does nothing.
technique is a practice that helps you play with less energy, more control, and with relaxation. in effort to keep your strokes and hitting even and consistent. the best way to do all this is to utilize how your body works, naturally and apply it throughout your kit. so something that happens naturally is almost the definition of technique.
no, like I said technique is the way somthing is done. that's the definition. all the stuff about controll and relaxation etc is just stuff you added.
no... technique includes everything i specified. ["the manner and ability with which an artist, writer, dancer, athlete, or the like employs the technical skills of a particular art or field of endeavor."] manner being the stroke of the drum, ability meaning control and consistency. believe me, dude. i'm a drummer myself. i can speak on behalf of this.
ur wrong about tim waterson. nobody made it up. george kollias said it was natural for him. tim waterson adapted it from george. kevin said it just came naturally on the left foot.
Kevin, get that tape of the snare! it sounds great when it rings out! Fuck it sounds so good in your new video! What drumhead is it? and how much do those snare drums run?
Your a sick drummer man. Playing like a man is hard shit I know.. I developed these shins that stick out like farken eggs over the years doing it the hard way! you gave me hope to keep going. <3 hook me up with ur msn when ur free so I can get some pointers :D
Kevin, I am a huge fan of all your videos. I know you could care less what any of these nagative sayers have to say cause you have obviously proven yourself and you have many more fans then you do assholes. I really don't notice you not playing 16ths on your feet either. good job.
It's a pretty know thing that I am NOT a fast drummer thats why I put this video up... cause I actually had to learn how to "cheat" my double bass to keep up with all these punk ass tappers that barely hit there drums. That's right... don't be a fucking pussy. Just play slow... it sounds better anyways.
Well you actually are pretty fast (maybe not the fastest) but the difference is that you seem to keep heavy grooves goin rather than all-out blasting the whole time.
I dont know i just thought id throw that out for ya
uuuuh... yes it is... i just tabbed out a 16th note bass drum roll on guitar hero with quarter notes on the high hat and eight note beats for the snare drum... the exact same beat he plays... guess what BPM it worked out to? yep, thats right, 246. yaaaay kevin talley, hes so awesome XD, some barker-ass blast beats right thurrr!
Not guitar hero, guitar pro i meant to say... and if you would take the time to metronome it, it matches up at 248. i just click measured it on GH again not five minutes ago...
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Kevin you shouldent put the bmp in the title of the video, your a drummer not a fucking athelete, its music, not a sport. And it makes you look like an asshole.
PLus the 250 bpm line was broken years ago, its time to go for 300 now man, haha.
dude, who gives a fuck, who says EVERY time somebody plays the drums it has to be record breaking? so what if the 250 barrier was already broken, this is still fucking impressive
haha. good to see some people aren't the usual skateboarding Mullen haters. That guy made me understand that anything is possible...on a drum kit skateboard...or this planet
d7b44 7 months ago
he used to be in Dying Fetus. man he was in a lot of bands.
benystrider 1 year ago
he used to be in Dying Fetus. am he was in a lot of bands.
benystrider 1 year ago
i could that too....just give 2 redbulls and i'll do it
jesse17ful 1 year ago
good job kevin, I didn't know you could play that fast, although I enjoy your groovy drumming more. keep up the good work!
metalheadtilimdead12 1 year ago
Dude you are THE shit!
nirvfan81 1 year ago
Kevin is the real deal. anyone who can fill in for Derek Roddy is the real deal as far as im concerned.
broke123 1 year ago
Kevin's snare sounds awesome :)
eastriders22 2 years ago
looks like he was gonna explode towards the end
JamalBojangles 2 years ago
You sure those aren't 245bpm kev? lol Maybe 247???
viperabs 2 years ago 14
Nothing wrong with changing beats up a bit, trying to be creative and off setting the high hat from the snare Gives it a nice flare. You cant put the same fuckn blast beat in every song , they would all sound the same.
afi86ed 2 years ago 3
"the problem is, single hihat blasting is fake..if you cant pull full blasts off at that tempo, go slower =/ or proceed the way you are if you will...but id never cheat like that to gain some speed, id rather play little slower and play it FOR REAL then just have a good right hand"
^^That whole comment is bullshit^^^
Blasting half speed with the left hand keeps you on time especially during live sets where you play for a long period of time. Even so, he's the one on stage not your sorry ass.
anthraxthreat 2 years ago
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BUT, when you "blast" like that, its not called blast beats acctually.
zakkah93 2 years ago
Lets see you up on a stage blasting that fast and keeping perfect time in front of hundreds of people when all the adrenaline is pumpin'!
SabianDude76 2 years ago
I dont think you got my point. I didnt criticize his playing. The ORIGINAL blast beats is when you hit the ride, hi-hat, cymbal, before every snare hit. I just commented because i thought it was funny what anthraxthreat said. I know that nowadays everything that involves fast snare playing is called a blast beat. Dont be so hostile next time.
zakkah93 2 years ago 2
Yeah, sorry man.
I ODed on energy drinks, lol.
SabianDude76 2 years ago 2
I do every weekend.
gately66669 2 years ago
a blast beat is a roll between the bass drum & snare. You can do whatever with the cymbals. The traditional blast has 8th notes on the hi hat but back in the day those guys in the 80's didn't play much faster than 200 bpm.
chiefindianlung 2 years ago
do you do rim shots in this video
your snare sounds killer!
MusicianWil 2 years ago
I don't see why you would "hate" it. Kai Hahto does some of his blasts this way. While everything else is going fast as hell, i'ts kool to have something keeping time. Of course, it's all a matter of opinion.
ElBastardo 2 years ago
sweet bro
plaguebringer666 3 years ago
to clarify...swivel does NOT happen naturally for most people, therefore it is a technique
see georgekolliasforum
invis19 3 years ago
Man, I hate blastbeats like this one, where they just hit a single cymbal/hi-hat instead of actually doing fills and stuff.
DisembowelMe 3 years ago
Yes I agree with you but this is how the original drummer recorded it and I like to play like the cd.
drummerkevintalley 3 years ago 13
Hehe, I understand. Wouldn't be a bad idea to put your own ideas into it though. :)
DisembowelMe 3 years ago 2
Better yet, why don't you do it for him?
nov9169 2 years ago
Hah, how would that work? Would I just push him out of the seat and take over while the blast part is going on?
DisembowelMe 2 years ago
did daath realy get noticed in atlanta,georgia?
themetalband 2 years ago
the problem is, single hihat blasting is fake..if you cant pull full blasts off at that tempo, go slower =/ or proceed the way you are if you will...but id never cheat like that to gain some speed, id rather play little slower and play it FOR REAL then just have a good right hand.....
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Thrijoden 2 years ago
@DisembowelMe why are you comparing a fill to a beat? apples to oranges . . . "Man, punk is so stupid. All they do is d-beat, they should just be flailing fills all the time."
xexyl 1 year ago
@xexyl I'm not comparing beats no, I'm suggesting how his blast beats could be improved by having actual fills.
DisembowelMe 1 year ago
@DisembowelMe I hate beats I cant play as well. hahaha. never heard of this project man, I'll check it out. You are to drumming what rodney mullen is to skateboarding. haha
d7b44 1 year ago
@d7b44 rodney mullen ...hell ya!!!
MrGziss 11 months ago
@d7b44 Yeah Rodney Mullen!!!!!!!!!!!
zombieholokaust 7 months ago
lol for being at 245 that was pretty sweet.
CsWyattCs 3 years ago
I would say these are on 245 bpm! my advice: listen and count again. you have to concentrate more my friend^^
KingKoolSenlis 3 years ago
I would say these are on 245 bpm! my advice: listen and count again. you have to concentrate more my friend^^
KingKoolSenlis 3 years ago
Kevin is fucking siick!
The intro in War Born by Daath makes me cream myself every time.
XxHARDCOR3xX 3 years ago
his stuff with dying fetus is soooo much better than his music with daath but who am i to complain? ITS FUCKIN KEVIN
Vayne15367 3 years ago
Kevin Talley is the sickest
I also know him very well, he is such a nice guy and really fuckin good at teaching shit
F990 3 years ago
haha...alex just cuz you get lessons from him doesn't necessarily mean "you know him very well"
maxpayne0974 3 years ago
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my grandma can drum faster than you
Apetch 3 years ago
ur a fucking idiot apetch. If your ganna be that fucking retarted dont fucking post at all u fucking cock sucker
navyseal723 3 years ago
name calling. that'll get stuff done!
detulid 3 years ago 2
you need to settle down there boyo, it was clearly just a joke
Apetch 3 years ago 2
what technique you use on the feet to be so fucking fast? swivel technique?
vicentedead1 4 years ago
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haha thats not a technique, you dont use a technique, you just practice what feels comfortable and relaxed. Swivel is made up by tim waterson (moron) george kollias even says it's just naturally occouring
hemplantt 3 years ago
how is swivel 'made up' but also occurs naturally? and technique is a practice that helps you stay comfortable and relaxed man... you kinda contradicted every statement you made here. cheers for input, though! you definitely understand more than most people!
detulid 3 years ago 2
ok, technique is like a way of playing somthing. k so the swivel shouldnt be a technique, because it happens naturally. if it doesnt naturally happen, it's just wasting energy moving yout foot from side to side, it does nothing.
hemplantt 3 years ago
technique is a practice that helps you play with less energy, more control, and with relaxation. in effort to keep your strokes and hitting even and consistent. the best way to do all this is to utilize how your body works, naturally and apply it throughout your kit. so something that happens naturally is almost the definition of technique.
detulid 3 years ago
no, like I said technique is the way somthing is done. that's the definition. all the stuff about controll and relaxation etc is just stuff you added.
hemplantt 3 years ago 2
no... technique includes everything i specified. ["the manner and ability with which an artist, writer, dancer, athlete, or the like employs the technical skills of a particular art or field of endeavor."] manner being the stroke of the drum, ability meaning control and consistency. believe me, dude. i'm a drummer myself. i can speak on behalf of this.
detulid 3 years ago
ur wrong about tim waterson. nobody made it up. george kollias said it was natural for him. tim waterson adapted it from george. kevin said it just came naturally on the left foot.
ilikememusic 3 years ago
ur fucking insane
elawsomeo 4 years ago
the PA would be pushing a ton of air :s
i'm suprised the audience didn't physically get pushed back!!
you kick bass drum pedal AND ass :D
Jogeta 4 years ago
Who the fuck cares how fast Kev was doing double-bass here? He's still a killer drummer regardless!
schist99 4 years ago
Because he put BPM in the title, its a speed war now.
Fortune1 4 years ago
Yeah. All thanks to you.
schist99 4 years ago
Kevin, get that tape of the snare! it sounds great when it rings out! Fuck it sounds so good in your new video! What drumhead is it? and how much do those snare drums run?
Fortune1 4 years ago
Your a sick drummer man. Playing like a man is hard shit I know.. I developed these shins that stick out like farken eggs over the years doing it the hard way! you gave me hope to keep going. <3 hook me up with ur msn when ur free so I can get some pointers :D
s3fron 4 years ago
Kevin, I am a huge fan of all your videos. I know you could care less what any of these nagative sayers have to say cause you have obviously proven yourself and you have many more fans then you do assholes. I really don't notice you not playing 16ths on your feet either. good job.
GregBatte 4 years ago
"the bass drum is clearly at 184 bpm, not 246.
The hand blast is 246.
You have to listen more accurately." haha wow, way to put it so presicely watson!
kissorkill11 4 years ago
One of my idol that's for sure.
Drabnak 4 years ago
dude, what are the acutal measurments of that snare?
ElBastardo 4 years ago
13 by 6.5 20 ply maple precision drum company
drummerkevintalley 4 years ago
It's a pretty know thing that I am NOT a fast drummer thats why I put this video up... cause I actually had to learn how to "cheat" my double bass to keep up with all these punk ass tappers that barely hit there drums. That's right... don't be a fucking pussy. Just play slow... it sounds better anyways.
drummerkevintalley 4 years ago
Well you actually are pretty fast (maybe not the fastest) but the difference is that you seem to keep heavy grooves goin rather than all-out blasting the whole time.
I dont know i just thought id throw that out for ya
Skinbridge 4 years ago
This is not 246bpm 16th note. Your double bass are NOT in 16th note.
Not bad anyway.
mayer489 4 years ago
uuuuh... yes it is... i just tabbed out a 16th note bass drum roll on guitar hero with quarter notes on the high hat and eight note beats for the snare drum... the exact same beat he plays... guess what BPM it worked out to? yep, thats right, 246. yaaaay kevin talley, hes so awesome XD, some barker-ass blast beats right thurrr!
TrunJun420 4 years ago
the bass drum is clearly at 184 bpm, not 246.
The hand blast is 246.
You have to listen more accurately.
mayer489 4 years ago
Not guitar hero, guitar pro i meant to say... and if you would take the time to metronome it, it matches up at 248. i just click measured it on GH again not five minutes ago...
TrunJun420 4 years ago
Fortune1,
who told you that only athletes can use the "bpm"? wtf. that's dumb.
FYI, an average person has 60-100 bpm pulse rate? i bet you didn't know that.
adam6665 4 years ago
I dont care about average heart rate where talking drums here, jesus christ fucking retard kids these days.
Fortune1 4 years ago
yo ask any drummer that actually plays shit that fast and you'll realize that its a true workout
anothermetalhed 4 years ago
The band sounds amazing live though!
Fortune1 4 years ago
i really like your snare! what are the dimensions? i must know...
byaaaaah777 4 years ago
13 by 6.5 20 ply maple precision drum company
drummerkevintalley 4 years ago
fortune 1.... its not a sport. however, that speed was required for this song. what are you trying to prove by talking shit?
lackadaniel 4 years ago
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Kevin you shouldent put the bmp in the title of the video, your a drummer not a fucking athelete, its music, not a sport. And it makes you look like an asshole.
PLus the 250 bpm line was broken years ago, its time to go for 300 now man, haha.
Fortune1 4 years ago
dude, who gives a fuck, who says EVERY time somebody plays the drums it has to be record breaking? so what if the 250 barrier was already broken, this is still fucking impressive
imperium7 4 years ago
It's about the music, Not the BPMs.
Fortune1 4 years ago
who cares? it's not about breaking records man.
adam6665 4 years ago
Jesus Christ KT... You should let me know when you hit up Denver next mang, I still wanna buy you a brew. You's'da'man!!!
(The dude from the Hate Eternal Video)
-TJ420
TrunJun420 4 years ago
Wow, this is the fastest I think I have ever heard you play in any band.
CannibalisticWasabi 4 years ago