Just using this as a training video myself so don't get me wrong when I say shouldn't they have been using either a Right hand search or Left hand search?
This is to help the explores first you need to sound the stairs so that you dont fall through second dont search right behind one another all you are doing is searching the same spot the man infront searched. You can spread out as long as you can hear your partner you can find him. The last think would be the speed. The whole point of search operations is to remove people from the hazardous area remeber they dont have SCBA like we do they only have minutes to live in the toxic gases from the fir
i think firefighters could use what the troops got at the end of iraq which tells you where people are in the building, it measures body heat but im sure you could differ the differences.
A hundred bucks says most of you critics on here are rookies or wannabees and have only done a search and rescue in training. So you are the ones that suck.
This is the slowest search i have ever seen if your looking for a downed firemen you go as fast as you can me and one other guy searched 3 floors in 3 mintues in a vent enter search evolution
Spoken like a true 220... 2 Month as a Firefighter, 20 Years Experience. You are a moron and don't have a grasp on simple english. Either that or you are watching a different video, no one in this video is scaling anything...
I am telling you that is not as difficult as this firefighter is making it look, like the instructor is pointing out, anyone trapped inside would be dead by the time that FF gets up those stair cases, BA shuffling is a quick search and rescue activity, this guy makes it look as if he is climbing Everest!!
I agree that this speed and tactic would not work in a real life incident, but what I do not understand is why some people can't grasp that these are high school kids doing this stuff for the very first time. I don't know where you are from, but up here we like to support people who are willing to give up their time to train and learn, not belittle them.
So as long as his tactics suck, but he thinks hes giving it 100% then its fine? That's stupid. Searches are suppose to be rapid and clear. Anyone stuck in a fire with hot gases filling up there lungs would of been long dead by the time they climbed those stairs
@P999FFB dude ur a jerk so u shouldnt have said anything mean about these guys u were way out of line being a jerk not being encouraging so u should just have left it alone a bit ur tongue u jerk
This is 'the sticks' maine. We arnt paid to go/we dont pay to go. this its local mutual aid towns that put together a school for new volunteer fire fighters to reach a leval where they can fight interior structural fire fighting. Like JKMills said before, this is Day one, Rookie school, in rural maine. this maybe the first time they move in full gear, blinded.
wouldn't it be more effective for the lead to have the head of the pick head axe in his hand and use the handle to reach and search in front of himself? and was their vision impaired in this video?
Yes they were blinded and were doing everything by touch during this scenario. And as I have said there are tons of ways these guys could have done this better and that is the whole point of the experience. They go in and try, come back out and assess what went good, bad and what they need to work on.
ya i did this yesterday in our dept and it was my first time and yes i was blindfolded. i did not go through it quickly either because there are many different things that you need to look for while doing a search like this and also you do not want to lose your partner holding your foot.
Hi there, I am a UK firefighter, when we do S&R we stand and keep back of a hand on the wall. I know this is first day training, but do you always search in this manner? Interested to know, great video by the way. :)
The rule is, if you cant see your feet, your on your knees. You keep one hand or foot in contact with the wall. and the other leg is spread out to the side. and the guy behind you will have his hand on your left ankle. spread out left more so. so you cover more ground. you will have a tool in your free hand and you will swing it side to side to search for a body and test the floor
As a New Zealand fire fighter we do the same training...the major difference is we would take in protection..ie a charged hose...for protection and makes it easier to exit the building with patient by following the hose out..
FF/EMT-I with the CMFPD Res70 thank you for this video. I taught a RIT class last week same thing what you guys did basic S&R. I had FNGs and they didn't know what was going on!That was the point is to train for that vary thing so they will know what to do. Next time they will be much faster they have trained for it more and more its called training! I look at this and I see me when I was a FNG.Check us out Search CMFPD on youtube tell us what you think.
For my frieschool we did search and rescue today and it was something liek this but we had fake smoke. it was very fun but than i got confused because people kept on going off and werent speakcing loud. We need to pratice on our communitcation they said which i really agree on.
I have removed all comments and will continue to do so if everyone thinks they have to critcize how the training was setup. This is a day one, rookie school in rural Maine. Your department may be doing something different, but that doesn't make you right. Stop assuming you know exactly what is going on, this is just a video folks.
@umerrick and @javelin954 agreed. im in training myself, but more importantly we're all brothers and sisters, no matter the rank or province
TheBigshot416 5 months ago
Just using this as a training video myself so don't get me wrong when I say shouldn't they have been using either a Right hand search or Left hand search?
jjatver95 1 year ago
This is to help the explores first you need to sound the stairs so that you dont fall through second dont search right behind one another all you are doing is searching the same spot the man infront searched. You can spread out as long as you can hear your partner you can find him. The last think would be the speed. The whole point of search operations is to remove people from the hazardous area remeber they dont have SCBA like we do they only have minutes to live in the toxic gases from the fir
mfd1781 1 year ago
@p999ffb comeon give them a break there explorers im an explorer in newyork and it was tough getting usto it your first time
coolman14150 1 year ago
Poorly done...no commuacation...forgot to say fire dept any one in here...no team work...i agree with p999ffb
Npfirebuddy 1 year ago
i think firefighters could use what the troops got at the end of iraq which tells you where people are in the building, it measures body heat but im sure you could differ the differences.
kbk1061 2 years ago
@kbk1061 thermal imaging camera.we use them
millwoodff21 2 years ago
they have new thermal imaging scanners, pin point on a grid which room there in, make S&R a breeze on an open flame.
kbk1061 2 years ago
@kbk1061 very cool ill have to look that up
millwoodff21 2 years ago
He/She idk is too slow!!
TheNarcocorridos 2 years ago
A hundred bucks says most of you critics on here are rookies or wannabees and have only done a search and rescue in training. So you are the ones that suck.
jlh154 2 years ago
You suck man but god bless who ever ur trying to save asshole
BG5850 2 years ago
This is the slowest search i have ever seen if your looking for a downed firemen you go as fast as you can me and one other guy searched 3 floors in 3 mintues in a vent enter search evolution
mfd1781 2 years ago
@mfd1781
No disrespect but i highly doubt the fact. Just to reach the top of a flight of stairs in a smokey room with two FF could take 30 sec to a min alone
fieldartillery13b 2 years ago
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Fuck he is slow i could have scaled that in 20 seconds!!!!
P999FFB 3 years ago
Spoken like a true 220... 2 Month as a Firefighter, 20 Years Experience. You are a moron and don't have a grasp on simple english. Either that or you are watching a different video, no one in this video is scaling anything...
jkmills81 3 years ago
HAHA IS THAT WHAT YOU YANKS CALL IT!!!!!
I am telling you that is not as difficult as this firefighter is making it look, like the instructor is pointing out, anyone trapped inside would be dead by the time that FF gets up those stair cases, BA shuffling is a quick search and rescue activity, this guy makes it look as if he is climbing Everest!!
P999FFB 3 years ago
I agree that this speed and tactic would not work in a real life incident, but what I do not understand is why some people can't grasp that these are high school kids doing this stuff for the very first time. I don't know where you are from, but up here we like to support people who are willing to give up their time to train and learn, not belittle them.
jkmills81 3 years ago 3
So as long as his tactics suck, but he thinks hes giving it 100% then its fine? That's stupid. Searches are suppose to be rapid and clear. Anyone stuck in a fire with hot gases filling up there lungs would of been long dead by the time they climbed those stairs
theredneck1924 2 years ago
Its called a Breathing apparatus. wow get an education before you become an Armchair Expert !
kbk1061 2 years ago
@P999FFB dude ur a jerk so u shouldnt have said anything mean about these guys u were way out of line being a jerk not being encouraging so u should just have left it alone a bit ur tongue u jerk
umerrick 5 months ago
wow they have got nice gear for explorers.
slayslayslay 3 years ago
Great Job guys Great way to start out in the fire Service.Keep up the great work. New Jersey Fire and Rescue..
9-11-01 We will never forget
jdeangelis99 3 years ago
im going to junior academy right now and we do all this shit but we know what we're doing
alexkleno5 3 years ago
academy..Thats the diffrence.
This is 'the sticks' maine. We arnt paid to go/we dont pay to go. this its local mutual aid towns that put together a school for new volunteer fire fighters to reach a leval where they can fight interior structural fire fighting. Like JKMills said before, this is Day one, Rookie school, in rural maine. this maybe the first time they move in full gear, blinded.
AirsoftinInTheHeazy 3 years ago
wouldn't it be more effective for the lead to have the head of the pick head axe in his hand and use the handle to reach and search in front of himself? and was their vision impaired in this video?
Bish1up 3 years ago
and he's an explorer
alexkleno5 3 years ago
Yes they were blinded and were doing everything by touch during this scenario. And as I have said there are tons of ways these guys could have done this better and that is the whole point of the experience. They go in and try, come back out and assess what went good, bad and what they need to work on.
jkmills81 3 years ago
ya i did this yesterday in our dept and it was my first time and yes i was blindfolded. i did not go through it quickly either because there are many different things that you need to look for while doing a search like this and also you do not want to lose your partner holding your foot.
mdew8192 3 years ago
Hi there, I am a UK firefighter, when we do S&R we stand and keep back of a hand on the wall. I know this is first day training, but do you always search in this manner? Interested to know, great video by the way. :)
karuze 3 years ago
The way this training is they are supposed to have one person in contact with the wall and each other person in contact with them forming a chain.
jkmills81 3 years ago
The rule is, if you cant see your feet, your on your knees. You keep one hand or foot in contact with the wall. and the other leg is spread out to the side. and the guy behind you will have his hand on your left ankle. spread out left more so. so you cover more ground. you will have a tool in your free hand and you will swing it side to side to search for a body and test the floor
AirsoftinInTheHeazy 3 years ago
i thought u were suposed to have ur hand on the wall
Tystai 3 years ago
Right hand Wall, left hand tool ! GOT IT ! NO BECAUSE YOUR DEAD! LISTENING AND APPREHENDING WORDS ARE NOT YOUR STRONG SUIT!
kbk1061 2 years ago
As a New Zealand fire fighter we do the same training...the major difference is we would take in protection..ie a charged hose...for protection and makes it easier to exit the building with patient by following the hose out..
BrentofNakedart 4 years ago
If this was an actual search, we would most likely have the firefighters with a hose for those same reasons you mentioned.
Later in this class there is a training on using the hose and couplings to find your way out blind.
jkmills81 4 years ago
i take this in like a couple months
huntergranger1992 4 years ago
this juy is blacked out
theclimber58 4 years ago
FF/EMT-I with the CMFPD Res70 thank you for this video. I taught a RIT class last week same thing what you guys did basic S&R. I had FNGs and they didn't know what was going on!That was the point is to train for that vary thing so they will know what to do. Next time they will be much faster they have trained for it more and more its called training! I look at this and I see me when I was a FNG.Check us out Search CMFPD on youtube tell us what you think.
cmfpd 4 years ago
For my frieschool we did search and rescue today and it was something liek this but we had fake smoke. it was very fun but than i got confused because people kept on going off and werent speakcing loud. We need to pratice on our communitcation they said which i really agree on.
Lestat370 4 years ago
I have removed all comments and will continue to do so if everyone thinks they have to critcize how the training was setup. This is a day one, rookie school in rural Maine. Your department may be doing something different, but that doesn't make you right. Stop assuming you know exactly what is going on, this is just a video folks.
jkmills81 5 years ago