Not only is homosexuality a personal choice and perversion it is very often associated with childhood psychological pressures or outright abuse that result in a propensity to this sickened behavior. Interestingly, those who are eager to quote scientific opinion forget that it was classified as a disorder for a long time. It was political and social pressure that pushed left wing Psychologists to try to push it into the mainstream.
Homosexuality is personally and societaly damaging.
Of course Jay doesn't get it. If you have never experienced His grace and deliverance from anything how could you possibly get it. Jay is such a suck up and an ass. Brings a controversy into a choir of his idiot followers. I would have gone toe to toe with him anytime.Again, aren't we all getting tired of this back alley act strutting down mainstreet? Stand for truth. It's better to stand alone for truth than be united by error. The world is not your friend to see this for what it is.
@sandworm3 I'm sorry, are you talking about the belief in God? If that is the case, then I believe that you are the one who is in error. You cannot use religious beliefs i.e. Christianity, Buddhism, Taoism, etc. as a tool to explain any phenomena grounded in biology, science or reality. Unfortunately, it looks like our discussion has been driven moot :(
@spidermonkeyh2l No you are the one in error. Those eyes and brain that can interpret what you are reading. Yep, created by God as the gift of life and being called you. Faith and science co-exist perfectly together. Secular humanism demands a choice between the two, but guess what, yep that is a radical fringe too. No one is created with a 'sin label' upon them called homosexuality. There is no identity as such. It is a behavior that manifests itself from many causes.
@sandworm3 Yeah, I didn't know that I was speaking to somebody who believes the Christian religion to be fact. I mean, it is unfortunate that so many cannot motivate themselves to be moral and have a life of value; you need an incentive and an external reason (your deity will grant you heaven; bad behavior will be punished with Hell) to be virtuous. But if that is what it takes for some people to function in society, I choose not to be against it for it is for the better of mankind, perhaps.
@spidermonkeyh2l But I do not believe that religious people should have any voice in the rest of society, especially if they are targeting and persecuting a particular group. They have no credible foundation to stand on, so all points made on their end are completely invalid. Have you ever consulted a professional about your existential dependency? In no way am I attacking you.
@spidermonkeyh2l (Next) It's deception that Christians are targeting or persecuting anybody. We have a core understanding and doctrine that everybody is in need of grace and forgiveness. The gospel is a love story of God's persute of all people. See, and please understand this, it's not the person, it's the behavior. There is a sacredness to the divine plan of one man and one woman coming together to be one in the confines of marriage.
@sandworm3 That may be the Christian belief, but, again, with it being without any merit whatsoever, it should not be imposed as a considerable guideline for public thought if it persecutes any one group. I'm not saying that all Christians are bad, but this is the same movement, in the 1950s, that attempted to hinder African-American civil rights. And, looking at the Christian condition towards race now, I believe that Christian misunderstanding of homosexuality will ebb with time.
@spidermonkeyh2l ??? I am puzzled, Christians have done more for the equality of races than any other group. What do you mean by that "hindering African American rights"?? Lincoln, a Christian, in the abolition of slavery, declared African Americans to be people, re-writing before the supreme court that they are not the same as "furniture" as was written of them to have only the equivelence of innaniamate property. Same with interracial marriage, Christians stood ground and paved the way...
@spidermonkeyh2l (Next) Homosexuality is not comparable to racial issues. Race is about "unchangeable" characteristics. You cannot be an ex-black or an ex-hispanic... However, the truth is that many people struggling with homosexual behavior want out of the lifestyle. They have turned to Christ and supportive ministry and groups for deliverance and strength. Many are now happily married with families of their own. Wonder of wonders, He (Christ) came to set the captives free.
@spidermonkeyh2l (Next) don't think for a second that the person struggling with homosexuality is lower or worse than the guy and the girl sitting in the pew next to me that are living together unwed and having sexual relations. I will call them on the carpet too. No difference... sin is sin.
@spidermonkeyh2l Actually it's not about being good or bad at all. We are all in the same boat. The law shows us our need for the gospel (which means good news). The good news is that our "being bad" has been paid for in full by Christ alone. It's not a segment of society that needs this, everybody needs this. We bring our bad behaviors and surrender them to Him to handle. When we do this, turn from them, believe on Him, He will make us the people He wants us to be.... Free.... Peace.
Michele Bachmann is a bitch, if she was in England she would get slaughtered. Her opinions are old fashioned and bigoted. We wouldn't put up with her being publicly racist so why do we put up with her being publicly homophobic. There are no such people as 'ex gays' they are just repressed and miserable within themselves. Jeeze Michelle stop being so Tea Party and get a life
Jay Leno asks a Republican candidate why gay marriage is an issue...it's like asking why do Republican's court the Values Voters...because it attracts Values Voters...because without Values Voters the Republican's would never win an election. How else can the very rich in America get the poor to vote away their rights? By getting them to join the Republican Party.
@TheAnthony8650 None of that is true because bigots SAY it’s not true, and they are bigots for GOD! How can you be so close-minded to their beliefs and- bigoted?
Yet another fact - In these "so called" monogamous unions... 85% the relationships are over after 3 years AND 90% admit to multiple partners... Time to wake up America... this isn't a marriage issue but a self esteem issue to legitimize/moralize this behavior. Too bad Jay could never have the nuts to quote that. Too afraid of losing his pathetic job.
Here's one for you smart people. Time to quit comparing this discussion to race. It's not a race issue. Blacks, hispanics, asians, whatever cannot change those traits. However, ex-gays exist. This movement wants to silence that big time. People walk / are delivered away from this behavior, celebrate that. Those participatiing in homosex beh. 1.greater degree depression 2.Physical illness 3.Suicide. "Don't tear down a fence until you know why it was put up." -African Proverb...
@sandworm3 Ex-gays themselves confess that the same-sex attraction doesn't go away, they just choose to become celibate. Do you think that homosexuality is defined by the behavior rather than the innate sexual attraction? Because that's wrong. I mean, if you think about it, it doesn't take an intellectual to figure this out. It's borderline common sense. So, assuming that you know that ex-gays are still gay, just celibate, what point are you trying to make again?
@spidermonkeyh2l Incorrect, there are many ex-gays that are married with children. Delivered from the lifestyle and not going back. Pause to celebrate that victory with them. Thus, they are not gay and just celibate... they are delivered from the lifestyle. period. Apart from that, celibacy is the correct route for anyone experiencing homosexual urges.
@sandworm3 No, homosexuality is not a lifestyle, it is an innate sexual attraction. This has been socially established fairly recently actually, so these beliefs that you hold are no fault of your own. As for the ex-gays who have chosen to wed the opposite gender and sire children, there was always the possibility that these individuals were bisexual, otherwise they would not be able to perform sexually with women.
@spidermonkeyh2l - and as for the celibacy comment, understand that that is your opinion and yours alone, not substantiated by any detriment caused by any one body.
@sagatbalrog No, I think you're confusing homosexuality with Down Syndrome, where, actually, the individual has an EXTRA chromosome. There is nothing genetically aberrant with homosexuals.
@spidermonkeyh2l yea but according to nature, biological organisms have to be able to reproduce, and homo's can't so it can't be what nature intended.
@sagatbalrog That is not an accurate scientific statement. So far, there have been over 1500 species of animals which have been observed displaying homosexual behavior. I will not define what nature intends, and neither should you, as well as anybody. Also, humans are biospherically overpopulated. There are not enough resources on Earth to sustain every human. Take what you will with that fact, but there may be a connection between this and homosexuality.
@spidermonkeyh2l oh i get wat ur saying, nature decided to throw a few homos into the mix to cut down on population. that could be true. i have heard of a certain type of frog though that will actualy change gender to mate if necessary.
@spidermonkeyh2l Here's where it gets crazy, when you folks try to moralize homosexual behavior based on the animal kingdom? Those participating in gay behaviors try this angle of deception all too often. Since when do you base what you do as acceptable off of what you see an animal doing? Desperately wicked and vehemently hedonistic. Naw animals are not gay. Sex for humans is different- for procreation but a sacred gift to be shared between a man and woman within the confines of marriage.
@sandworm3 No, to give something, anything, philosophical or existential meaning is a sociological construct; it does not have anything to do with nature. Words like "wicked" and "sacred" have no merit in explaining natural phenomena like sexuality.
Jay is out to lunch on the subject. Marriage isn't what this movement wants, it wants to legitimize the behavior for their self esteem. Check out the marriage rate in the states where this is legal! VERY VERY LOW! WHY? Because the behavior in itself is highly promiscuous. Committment and monogamy are not the priority. This isn't a marriage issue. It's a moralize and legitimize a behavior. Nothing but a self esteem issue for those participating in homosexual behaviors.
@sandworm3 I don't know where you're getting your information, but this is not correct. Theraputic studies show that homosexual relationships are no different from heterosexual relationships. They are not based solely on sexual behaviors. Where are you getting your information from? You may want to talk about your beliefs with a licensed therapist. I am sure they would be able to clear up the misinformation you have been given concerning homosexuality.
@Mattixxg And what are you implying by that? The majority of case studies done on homosexual relationships record that homosexual relationships operate the same as heterosexual ones. I, for one, cannot imagine that it would be the contrary. I mean, how else would it operate? A loving, committed relationship is thus, with no deviance across gender, culture, or race. If you question this, I suggest seeking information from multiple clinical therapists or conduct a free study on your own time.
@spidermonkeyh2l Ah, no credible "theraputic study" could possibly claim that homo and hetero relations are equivelent. That is the {{{LIE}}} that this movement tries to progress any way it can. Tell me... why are homosexual participants at such high risk for 1.depression 2.drug abuse 3. physical sickness 4.suicide?
Skip the acceptance excuse... this has been studied in the Netherlands where gay behavior is widely "accepted" and the statistics are parallel whereever you go.
@sandworm3 No, there are multiple credible therapeutic studies done that prove that heterosexual and homosexual relationships are equivalent. Actually, virtually all of the studies done comparing the two have concluded this. Again, you should discuss your beliefs with a licensed therapist or do a free study on your own time. And what movement are you talking about? As for your question, it actually does pertain to social acceptance; it isn't an excuse.
@spidermonkeyh2l To have verbal leanings that homosexuality is a cultural phenomenon and not an individual-oriented predisposition is incorrect. Again, I am sure research into the subject will clear up any misunderstandings you have of homosexuality.
@spidermonkeyh2l Name the credible studies? Also, let's acknowledge those four sufferings that this behavior predisposes to people. Depression, drugs, physical sickness, suicide.
@sandworm3 You can start by googling "heterosexual homosexual relationships" in Google Scholar. There are many peer-reviewed studies concerning comparisons of heterosexual and homosexual relationships. And those behavioral sufferings have nothing to do with a person's sexuality. Depression, drug abuse, physical sickness and suicide are general sociological afflictions that can affect anybody from any culture.
@spidermonkeyh2l Statistically, those afflictions plague people participating in homosexual behavior. Next, it is "unnatural" to engage in this behavior and if detected early, should be abstained from and corrected.
@sandworm3 Statistically, these afflictions plague people of every disposition, not exclusive to any one group. As for your second comment, I say again, that is your opinion and yours alone, not merited by any research done on homosexuality. In fact, studies show that trying to "correct" homosexuality is harmful to the individual.
@spidermonkeyh2l I get my information from many sources, would be hard to specifically name all. Colson Center for Christian Worldview is an excellent source. He worked in prison ministry, knows all the ills and hurts that homosexual behavior brings to people. Offers deliverance in a compassionate way. I feel the same way, it's not the person that is the issue, but the behavior. They are not born with a label around their neck to engage in this behavior. We have a choice in this.
@sandworm3 (NExt) Don't think that I am singling out homosexual behavior, heterosexual behavior that is outside of marriage is equally wrong and has a trail of tears. Fatherless children, killing babies (the bloodbath of planned parenthood), depression. ASk any girl that gave up her purity prior to marriage if it is a regret and if it was a good experience. Great great majority want that back. That is why there is a principle to live by and a plan for our lives.
@sandworm3 I'm sorry, how is depression morally wrong? As for the comment about purity, I'm sure it does happen, but I do not believe that the majority regret their first experience, and, also, I don't support shame or regret as a healthy motivational tool to live a virtuous life. And, again, I reiterate, a life with purpose is solely a sociological creation, with no bearing on biological or scientific reality.
@sagatbalrog spidermonkey was my first e-mail account (4th grade) and that "rapper-type" is actually me a couple years ago. That day I was doing a free study social experiment on dress and bias. I can see that it is still relevant today.
@sandworm3 There was study done, in the Philippines, I believe, in response to declining birth rates. Those that conducted the study found that the majority of couples who had not given birth did not own toasters. So the country's government started issuing out toasters to promote national births. What makes this study notable is that the researchers completely overlooked that the couples they were studying lived in poverty, which was actually the real reason why they chose not to give birth.
@spidermonkeyh2l Colsen Center, as you've just explained, works in prison ministry. Using the same principle, it sounds like your source failed to use "scope" in making his conclusion as to what was the actual cause to his subjects' problems. It was not homosexuality that caused his patients to end up in prison, nor was it the direct reason for their personal hardships.
@ZealandGamerXD But see Merriam-Webster ("foun·da·tion·al adjective"); Sossamon v. Texas, 131 S. Ct. 1651, 1663 n.10 (2011) ("the foundational rule [is] that waiver of sovereign immunity must be unequivocally expressed"); Penrose, in Feynman, Six Not-So-Easy Pieces xv (relativity "is a foundational ingredient of [our] universe"); Willinsky, Empire of Words: The Reign of the OED 20 (describing "a complete record of the English language" as "a foundational document"). You're owned and dumb, bitch.
@tazer74 Can you please start from the assumption that THERE IS NO GOD.
Now tell us all about the benefits of hating and discriminating against gays. Unless you have something other than fairy tales to back you up, don't bother. You're dealing with a college graduate here. Mythology and superstition don't impress me.
Annoys me that people applaud at 1.48 - he gets cut off really from expressing a real opinion! Hardly tackling the subject at all really :/ this scares me!
I don't agree with idea of this clinic. But Michele Bachman could have made it easier on herself by saying that this is voluntary treatment on the part of the patient........ the treatment could then be considered patient centered, and therefore valid. Don't mistake what I am saying, I don't agree with the validity of this treatment.
Honestly I am against gay marriage because the Christians religion states that a man should not be with another man and should only marry women. (even though it's quite stupid). They have their religion and lettings gays marry is sort of a slap in their faces. Even though I am Atheist and gay myself. A civil partnership should do just fine.
@Anichols321 I disagree. Your argument would work if marriage were a tradition and nothing else. If it were that condition, then gays really don't have any say in having marriages. However, it's not just a tradition anymore, but something recognized by government and a justification for acquiring federal benefits. At the point where one group of people are more liable to acquire the said benefits and condition of having marriage, that's not balancing interests, and it is still unequal.
@Anichols321 When it comes, then, to civil partnerships, the problem is that they don't grant neither the equal benefits nor the equal consideration as marriage does. If you're going to say that we can make civil unions equal, then at this point, you acknowledge that a civil union should be equal to marriage and tacitly and implicitly agree that same-sex marriage is the way to go.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@Mattixxg: On "how Dare I compare gay discrimination with color or being Jewish": First off I didnt but...a few examples. 1st. Holocaust:.gays were also rounded up and gased. 2.Castro's Cuba..yep..originally gays rounded up & jailed. my favorite example: on Oprah. A young BLACK lesbian was spilling her heart out at the hurt of not having support of her Own family. Family is #1.. we can learn to deal with the hate from others, but the ones that count are our famlily. Many gays dont get that.
Again, your comparison is a joke. Hitlers goal was not to go after the gays (i just love how you guys think youre the center of attention lol).
Secondly his goal was to destroy an ENTIRE race. Being gay was an afterthought.
Hitlers big picture was race. Period.
Just because a BLACK lesiban was on oprah doesnt take from the fact that theres two different levels. (its lie a Jr high kid trying to compare basketball notes with Micheal Jordan).
@Mattixxg : I give up! Some people just dont want to learn. One departing thing..come to Washington DC and visit the Holocaust Museum. You will learn that gay people were rounded up and killed Only for being born gay.
As a human being doesn't that bother just a bit that someone's child was killed for being born gay....?
Historically, you kill a Black person, you can have a bon fire and take photos (ala the KKK). Kill a gay person, and youre gong to prison for life.
I could write a book on how life for Jews being exterminated was NOTHING like the cute, lightweight "persecution" of current day gays.
Oh..you got beat up because youre gay. Wow. Big fucking deal. MOST kids get bullied or beat up for something in school. You act as if youre "special" and that shit just annoys me.
@Mattixxg - I'm not going to get into a debate about how many people have been killed for what reason, but you do realize that in many countries today, homosexuality is punishable by death. I don't know of any nation where skin color is a crime.
Also, today most religions aren’t used to persecute people for their skin color, unlike sexual orientation.
Also, I don't hear about teenage suicides because of racial intolerance.
So you should try to THINK, before you type stupid comments.
What the fuck is wrong with you people? Remember the HOLOCAUST (racial)?
Youre SERIOUSLY trying to equate this gay shit to something like that>?
You people have your heads stuck so far up your ass its absolutely amazing.
Read up on the MIDDLE PASSAGE (racial)you stupid ass....you are the LAST person to be trying to defend gay pride because you dont even know basic fucking history.
Instead of running your mouth without researching on youtube..actually WATCH these movies then come back to me in a week or so.
------- Schindler's List To Kill A Mockingbird American History X Malcolm X Crash Romper Stomper Men of Honor A Time to Kill Mississippi Burning Amistad
You are a selfish and INCREDIBLY IGNORANT person if youre dumb enough tho think that sexual preference can be compared to the 3plus MILLION that died.
@Mattixxg So, here's a thought (and note that even though I find your comments very distasteful, I am able to reply without all kinds of unnecessary name calling). Let's count up all of the GLBT people who have been harmed because of their sexuality. Put in jail, fired from jobs, bullied, beat on, and yes, killed. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a MUCH higher number than you think. But regardless of whether or not their sufferings are equal to the sufferings of other groups of people (TBC).
I do not doubt that its a high number. A death is a death which is awful in any regard. Its just the context in which the situation is displayed in comparison that is offensive .
To make light of their deaths all because you want to fuck a guy in the ass is HIGHLY offensive and while im in disgust at what you do sexually, that nonchalant attitude makes me HATE people like you.
Gays will NEVER be in comparison to the countless jewish and other lives that were lost during the war.
You dont know shit about history and are only concerned about your ass and cock.
You have to be the dumbest fucker on youtube. I should have known you would have taken that out of context. You fail at reading comprehension.
"To make light of their deaths all because you want to fuck a guy in the ass is HIGHLY offensive and while im in disgust at what you do sexually, that nonchalant attitude makes me HATE people like you."
Youre debating skills suck ass lol. I can NOT believe you chopped my statement up like that.
@Mattixxg (and just so you know, African Americans are not the only group who have suffered), GLBT people have still certainly SUFFERED. And you're careless flinging about of curse words and filth just make you look ignorant, not the people you're arguing against.
@Mattixxg Alright, just a couple of things with what you're saying. (1) When these other users are comparing the conditions of homosexuals to African Americans and Jews, they're talking on the basis of the kind of treatment, not the degree at which these treatments were carried out. As an avid supporter of homosexual rights, I have to agree that the burdens that had been placed on gays in years past are incomparable to the ones of blacks and Jews.
@ScarletGhost4356 There were four gay guys who had just watched a baby’s head get crushed with a boot, they had tears in their eyes walking towards their death in the oven with hundreds of squirming screaming people but they walked with their heads held high. There were two 15 year old boys caught kissing each other in Iran, a few months later they walked as men to be hung in front of their families in the middle of town square and on youtube.
@thework4444 Oh yeah, I forgot about those. I was only thinking of America for some reason. Maybe the degrees to which discrimination is played is not so dissimilar after all, but regardless of the degree, discrimination is discrimination. Thanks for reminding me of that, by the way.
@ScarletGhost4356 Sarah Palins 9 year old daughter called someone who was provoking her a foggot many times online- had she said kike or ni**** Sarah Palin herself would be homeless now. Gays are beat up/humiliated daily in class, in the hallway, at the bus stop and on the walk home. When something bad does happen over and over its funny how many times the school will say it’s a problem for the police and vice versa. Yes there are some who can hide and skim easily through
@ScarletGhost4356 No problem, I hope I didn’t come across as too harsh. I personally believe that having anything in common with those who are homophobic and religious as in the government of Iran as one example is expecting and giving shit. Gays are bashed all day every day in many schools in America for those boys who don’t act like a grunt.
@Mattixxg (1, cont.) I may get a nasty comment from saying that, but let's face it: gays weren't institutionally enslaved nor were they taken off to ovens. However, the parallels between the kind of discrimination that they are facing: the institutionalized mandates by government directly made against a group of people; the relentless harassment and bullying people within this group; the hate crimes against this group of people. What matters isn't the degree of suffering that they get.
@Mattixxg (1, cont.) What matter is the nature of the treatment that they're being subjected to, and at the end of the day, discrimination is discrimination. From there comes the analogy between homosexuals' suffering and the ones of blacks and Jews. (2) Another thing, you're saying that most kids get bullied for something at school. Where do you draw the conclusion that MOST kids get bullied? Also, do you agree that bullying on ANYONE is something that shouldn't happen?
First off you cant "hide" being say..asian..or black. No way. Its just there. Second, its highly offensive that you make such a comparo like that. No matter how much a Black person "acts" White, if you will, they are still, in fact Black.
No amount of mental training, or keeping it in the closet or hiding it will change the fact that you are black. Historically, there were Black locations and white. Gays can go to ANY location historically, they choose.
Its a shame. ANY minority should be up in arms about that comparison because its a joke. Its like comparing a marine in Afghanistan to some guy that plays paintball. They are on two entirely different levels.
@astranger15 liking a group just because they are discriminated is just as bad as hating them. like people for themselves, if you like a group, you're saying you like a lot of people you don't know, a lot of which could be assholes. I'm just saying loving people because they are different not only won't help discrimination, it is a part of it.
@Liton777 you're thinking wayyy too much into my statement. I think you need to start writing on a philosophy forum, not the comment section on youtube. Either way, DON'T YOU BE PRAYIN' MY GAYS AWAY!
I never liked Jay Leno, he has a bad reputation and he always looks like the safest of guys to have on television (meaning boring, non-controversial) but I like how he probed her a little on that one.
As a gay man, I appreciate what Jay tries to convey to her. But some people refuse to change and in twenty years her head will spin because gay marriage will probably be legal in every state.
Jay Leno just can't let it alone. He never actually got a response out of Michele Bachmann for all these anti Americans to explode about. Psychology, a pseudo science at best, has changed its mind and now does not refer to homosexuality as a disease or aberrant behavior. Were they right in the past or now? That is the only leg homosexuality stands on and that is social intimidation of a pseudo science to declare them normal. Not much to go on if you ask me. Homosexuality is a sickness.
@jpaulg54 The only sick one here is you. Pseudo Science? Really? Don't let me believe you're that Damn Stupid. ( And for that reason no one did ask you) If you can, generate a video response with (intelligent) ideas and research to back it up. The Bible doesn't count either, buddy. It's, more than less, fiction and a form of modern slavery. If you can't or just "know" you're right then don't ever comment again. Please for our sake. Oh! and watch out because a gay is coming to "infect" you.
@FauxShizzle9 Homosexuality is not called a sickness because it has no negative consequences unlike homophobia. You seem to think about men getting hard for each other A LOT, Marcus.
@thework4444 What are you trying to convey? I don't understand. Refine your explaination a little, please. Who's Marcus? Hopefully, you don't think that's me. If it's someone else, could you please reply to them directly?
Psychology is not a pseudo science, its a real science supported by real scientists, what the hell do you think is used for soldiers with PTSD? For people with mental breaks and so on? Idiot.
As for it not supporting homosexuality as normal, well, ever heard of "following the norm"? Thats what it did before saying "gays are fine" the science followed the dogmatic view that it was wrong based from what? The bible, as soon as science came in, guess what, they changed.
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Bachmann another coward, she is affraid, she don't like to offend the LGBT. Man, I could say: GAY MARRIAGE IS PERVERT. REALLY EVIL. You like it, i don't like it. You think gays are normal. I think homosexuals men can't adopt boys. They are potential pedophiles. So???? Come on Michele!!! The next president of the U.S. can't fear LGBT, you can say whatever you want. ITS A FREE DAMN COUNTRY
@antinazicholos5 Yes, the evil LGBT community with their adopting babies and children with aids, the terrorism they plague with world with, their welfare that drinks all our money dry…sick really sick.
Get a life you flying worthless toad. Put your energy into something other than sticking up for those who are weird about homosexuality.Young girls are supposed to be more mature than that. I am sure you can see you are in the minority with your opinions along with the KKK and Nazis- you like?
@thework4444 The nazis loved lipstick lesbians and very masculine bisexual men, they sent to concentration camps only travestites and effeminate gays. Read the Pink Swaztika, interesting book.
Hitler was an artist, vegetarian, he loved animals more than humans, pro-abortion (specially jewish fetuses), environmentalist, and of course, his buddhist symbol... seems Hitler was a democrat
@antinazicholos5 Hitler also belived the entire nation should be christian and those who didn't conform to his set of ideals should be put to death. He believed in a strong military, Small centralized Government, and hated foreigners. He also was extremely nationalistic, seems he was a republican too.
Not only is homosexuality a personal choice and perversion it is very often associated with childhood psychological pressures or outright abuse that result in a propensity to this sickened behavior. Interestingly, those who are eager to quote scientific opinion forget that it was classified as a disorder for a long time. It was political and social pressure that pushed left wing Psychologists to try to push it into the mainstream.
Homosexuality is personally and societaly damaging.
jpaulg54 1 month ago
@jpaulg54 how is it societaly damaging
sagatbalrog 1 month ago
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I honestly can't stand her. Ugh.
ShootMeLove93 4 months ago
Of course Jay doesn't get it. If you have never experienced His grace and deliverance from anything how could you possibly get it. Jay is such a suck up and an ass. Brings a controversy into a choir of his idiot followers. I would have gone toe to toe with him anytime.Again, aren't we all getting tired of this back alley act strutting down mainstreet? Stand for truth. It's better to stand alone for truth than be united by error. The world is not your friend to see this for what it is.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 I'm sorry, are you talking about the belief in God? If that is the case, then I believe that you are the one who is in error. You cannot use religious beliefs i.e. Christianity, Buddhism, Taoism, etc. as a tool to explain any phenomena grounded in biology, science or reality. Unfortunately, it looks like our discussion has been driven moot :(
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l No you are the one in error. Those eyes and brain that can interpret what you are reading. Yep, created by God as the gift of life and being called you. Faith and science co-exist perfectly together. Secular humanism demands a choice between the two, but guess what, yep that is a radical fringe too. No one is created with a 'sin label' upon them called homosexuality. There is no identity as such. It is a behavior that manifests itself from many causes.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 why doesnt god come down to earth and say "whats up all my dogs and cats"
sagatbalrog 4 months ago
@sandworm3 Yeah, I didn't know that I was speaking to somebody who believes the Christian religion to be fact. I mean, it is unfortunate that so many cannot motivate themselves to be moral and have a life of value; you need an incentive and an external reason (your deity will grant you heaven; bad behavior will be punished with Hell) to be virtuous. But if that is what it takes for some people to function in society, I choose not to be against it for it is for the better of mankind, perhaps.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l But I do not believe that religious people should have any voice in the rest of society, especially if they are targeting and persecuting a particular group. They have no credible foundation to stand on, so all points made on their end are completely invalid. Have you ever consulted a professional about your existential dependency? In no way am I attacking you.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l (Next) It's deception that Christians are targeting or persecuting anybody. We have a core understanding and doctrine that everybody is in need of grace and forgiveness. The gospel is a love story of God's persute of all people. See, and please understand this, it's not the person, it's the behavior. There is a sacredness to the divine plan of one man and one woman coming together to be one in the confines of marriage.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 That may be the Christian belief, but, again, with it being without any merit whatsoever, it should not be imposed as a considerable guideline for public thought if it persecutes any one group. I'm not saying that all Christians are bad, but this is the same movement, in the 1950s, that attempted to hinder African-American civil rights. And, looking at the Christian condition towards race now, I believe that Christian misunderstanding of homosexuality will ebb with time.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l ??? I am puzzled, Christians have done more for the equality of races than any other group. What do you mean by that "hindering African American rights"?? Lincoln, a Christian, in the abolition of slavery, declared African Americans to be people, re-writing before the supreme court that they are not the same as "furniture" as was written of them to have only the equivelence of innaniamate property. Same with interracial marriage, Christians stood ground and paved the way...
sandworm3 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l (Next) Homosexuality is not comparable to racial issues. Race is about "unchangeable" characteristics. You cannot be an ex-black or an ex-hispanic... However, the truth is that many people struggling with homosexual behavior want out of the lifestyle. They have turned to Christ and supportive ministry and groups for deliverance and strength. Many are now happily married with families of their own. Wonder of wonders, He (Christ) came to set the captives free.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l (Next) don't think for a second that the person struggling with homosexuality is lower or worse than the guy and the girl sitting in the pew next to me that are living together unwed and having sexual relations. I will call them on the carpet too. No difference... sin is sin.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l Actually it's not about being good or bad at all. We are all in the same boat. The law shows us our need for the gospel (which means good news). The good news is that our "being bad" has been paid for in full by Christ alone. It's not a segment of society that needs this, everybody needs this. We bring our bad behaviors and surrender them to Him to handle. When we do this, turn from them, believe on Him, He will make us the people He wants us to be.... Free.... Peace.
sandworm3 4 months ago
jay leno is a closet butt pirate.
rw5791 4 months ago
Michele Bachmann is a bitch, if she was in England she would get slaughtered. Her opinions are old fashioned and bigoted. We wouldn't put up with her being publicly racist so why do we put up with her being publicly homophobic. There are no such people as 'ex gays' they are just repressed and miserable within themselves. Jeeze Michelle stop being so Tea Party and get a life
ChanterLaChanson 4 months ago
Women also couldn't vote under law. If a law is stupid or outdated then you can change it.
marco437 4 months ago
the only people who need therapy are religious people.morons.
religionis4retards 4 months ago
Jay Leno asks a Republican candidate why gay marriage is an issue...it's like asking why do Republican's court the Values Voters...because it attracts Values Voters...because without Values Voters the Republican's would never win an election. How else can the very rich in America get the poor to vote away their rights? By getting them to join the Republican Party.
VWFringe 4 months ago
@VWFringe America could be so far ahead of the game at this point if republicans didnt rally the trash into thinking they know something.
thework4444 4 months ago
I was about to make a gay joke, butt fuck it.
CanderousXOrdo 4 months ago
Leno gets owned.
RaytownSoClassof2010 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650 None of that is true because bigots SAY it’s not true, and they are bigots for GOD! How can you be so close-minded to their beliefs and- bigoted?
thework4444 4 months ago
Grade A lunatic.
zeroeffects88 4 months ago
YOU CANNOT PRAY THEY GAY AWAY THATS WHY THEY WERE PUT IN OVENS
thework4444 4 months ago
Yet another fact - In these "so called" monogamous unions... 85% the relationships are over after 3 years AND 90% admit to multiple partners... Time to wake up America... this isn't a marriage issue but a self esteem issue to legitimize/moralize this behavior. Too bad Jay could never have the nuts to quote that. Too afraid of losing his pathetic job.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 ...AND YOU ARE?
thework4444 4 months ago
Here's one for you smart people. Time to quit comparing this discussion to race. It's not a race issue. Blacks, hispanics, asians, whatever cannot change those traits. However, ex-gays exist. This movement wants to silence that big time. People walk / are delivered away from this behavior, celebrate that. Those participatiing in homosex beh. 1.greater degree depression 2.Physical illness 3.Suicide. "Don't tear down a fence until you know why it was put up." -African Proverb...
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 Ex-gays themselves confess that the same-sex attraction doesn't go away, they just choose to become celibate. Do you think that homosexuality is defined by the behavior rather than the innate sexual attraction? Because that's wrong. I mean, if you think about it, it doesn't take an intellectual to figure this out. It's borderline common sense. So, assuming that you know that ex-gays are still gay, just celibate, what point are you trying to make again?
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago 6
@spidermonkeyh2l Incorrect, there are many ex-gays that are married with children. Delivered from the lifestyle and not going back. Pause to celebrate that victory with them. Thus, they are not gay and just celibate... they are delivered from the lifestyle. period. Apart from that, celibacy is the correct route for anyone experiencing homosexual urges.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 No, homosexuality is not a lifestyle, it is an innate sexual attraction. This has been socially established fairly recently actually, so these beliefs that you hold are no fault of your own. As for the ex-gays who have chosen to wed the opposite gender and sire children, there was always the possibility that these individuals were bisexual, otherwise they would not be able to perform sexually with women.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l - and as for the celibacy comment, understand that that is your opinion and yours alone, not substantiated by any detriment caused by any one body.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l gay is just a medical abnormality, like their missing a chromosone or some shit.
sagatbalrog 4 months ago
@sagatbalrog No, I think you're confusing homosexuality with Down Syndrome, where, actually, the individual has an EXTRA chromosome. There is nothing genetically aberrant with homosexuals.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l yea but according to nature, biological organisms have to be able to reproduce, and homo's can't so it can't be what nature intended.
sagatbalrog 4 months ago
@sagatbalrog That is not an accurate scientific statement. So far, there have been over 1500 species of animals which have been observed displaying homosexual behavior. I will not define what nature intends, and neither should you, as well as anybody. Also, humans are biospherically overpopulated. There are not enough resources on Earth to sustain every human. Take what you will with that fact, but there may be a connection between this and homosexuality.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l oh i get wat ur saying, nature decided to throw a few homos into the mix to cut down on population. that could be true. i have heard of a certain type of frog though that will actualy change gender to mate if necessary.
sagatbalrog 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l Here's where it gets crazy, when you folks try to moralize homosexual behavior based on the animal kingdom? Those participating in gay behaviors try this angle of deception all too often. Since when do you base what you do as acceptable off of what you see an animal doing? Desperately wicked and vehemently hedonistic. Naw animals are not gay. Sex for humans is different- for procreation but a sacred gift to be shared between a man and woman within the confines of marriage.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 No, to give something, anything, philosophical or existential meaning is a sociological construct; it does not have anything to do with nature. Words like "wicked" and "sacred" have no merit in explaining natural phenomena like sexuality.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l There is no moralization, I'm just explaining nature.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
to prove im not a racist im voting for the republican token nigger.
datzfast 4 months ago
Jay is out to lunch on the subject. Marriage isn't what this movement wants, it wants to legitimize the behavior for their self esteem. Check out the marriage rate in the states where this is legal! VERY VERY LOW! WHY? Because the behavior in itself is highly promiscuous. Committment and monogamy are not the priority. This isn't a marriage issue. It's a moralize and legitimize a behavior. Nothing but a self esteem issue for those participating in homosexual behaviors.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 dont be so homophobic, a cock that smells like shit belongs on a faggot.
datzfast 4 months ago
@sandworm3 I don't know where you're getting your information, but this is not correct. Theraputic studies show that homosexual relationships are no different from heterosexual relationships. They are not based solely on sexual behaviors. Where are you getting your information from? You may want to talk about your beliefs with a licensed therapist. I am sure they would be able to clear up the misinformation you have been given concerning homosexuality.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l
you know whats funny, is that depends on who is doing the study. The thing is, sometimes the studies are bias.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg Yes, they can. However, you need to prove that this particular study is biased.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@Mattixxg And what are you implying by that? The majority of case studies done on homosexual relationships record that homosexual relationships operate the same as heterosexual ones. I, for one, cannot imagine that it would be the contrary. I mean, how else would it operate? A loving, committed relationship is thus, with no deviance across gender, culture, or race. If you question this, I suggest seeking information from multiple clinical therapists or conduct a free study on your own time.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l Ah, no credible "theraputic study" could possibly claim that homo and hetero relations are equivelent. That is the {{{LIE}}} that this movement tries to progress any way it can. Tell me... why are homosexual participants at such high risk for 1.depression 2.drug abuse 3. physical sickness 4.suicide?
Skip the acceptance excuse... this has been studied in the Netherlands where gay behavior is widely "accepted" and the statistics are parallel whereever you go.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 No, there are multiple credible therapeutic studies done that prove that heterosexual and homosexual relationships are equivalent. Actually, virtually all of the studies done comparing the two have concluded this. Again, you should discuss your beliefs with a licensed therapist or do a free study on your own time. And what movement are you talking about? As for your question, it actually does pertain to social acceptance; it isn't an excuse.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l To have verbal leanings that homosexuality is a cultural phenomenon and not an individual-oriented predisposition is incorrect. Again, I am sure research into the subject will clear up any misunderstandings you have of homosexuality.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l Name the credible studies? Also, let's acknowledge those four sufferings that this behavior predisposes to people. Depression, drugs, physical sickness, suicide.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 You are aware that you're making a correlation without causation, right?
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@sandworm3 You can start by googling "heterosexual homosexual relationships" in Google Scholar. There are many peer-reviewed studies concerning comparisons of heterosexual and homosexual relationships. And those behavioral sufferings have nothing to do with a person's sexuality. Depression, drug abuse, physical sickness and suicide are general sociological afflictions that can affect anybody from any culture.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l Statistically, those afflictions plague people participating in homosexual behavior. Next, it is "unnatural" to engage in this behavior and if detected early, should be abstained from and corrected.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 Statistically, these afflictions plague people of every disposition, not exclusive to any one group. As for your second comment, I say again, that is your opinion and yours alone, not merited by any research done on homosexuality. In fact, studies show that trying to "correct" homosexuality is harmful to the individual.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@sandworm3 Would you please tell me where you are getting your information from?
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l I get my information from many sources, would be hard to specifically name all. Colson Center for Christian Worldview is an excellent source. He worked in prison ministry, knows all the ills and hurts that homosexual behavior brings to people. Offers deliverance in a compassionate way. I feel the same way, it's not the person that is the issue, but the behavior. They are not born with a label around their neck to engage in this behavior. We have a choice in this.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 (NExt) Don't think that I am singling out homosexual behavior, heterosexual behavior that is outside of marriage is equally wrong and has a trail of tears. Fatherless children, killing babies (the bloodbath of planned parenthood), depression. ASk any girl that gave up her purity prior to marriage if it is a regret and if it was a good experience. Great great majority want that back. That is why there is a principle to live by and a plan for our lives.
sandworm3 4 months ago
@sandworm3 I'm sorry, how is depression morally wrong? As for the comment about purity, I'm sure it does happen, but I do not believe that the majority regret their first experience, and, also, I don't support shame or regret as a healthy motivational tool to live a virtuous life. And, again, I reiterate, a life with purpose is solely a sociological creation, with no bearing on biological or scientific reality.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l you sure use a lot of big words for a guy named spidermonkey and has a picture of a rapper type in his profile
sagatbalrog 4 months ago
@sagatbalrog spidermonkey was my first e-mail account (4th grade) and that "rapper-type" is actually me a couple years ago. That day I was doing a free study social experiment on dress and bias. I can see that it is still relevant today.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@sandworm3 There was study done, in the Philippines, I believe, in response to declining birth rates. Those that conducted the study found that the majority of couples who had not given birth did not own toasters. So the country's government started issuing out toasters to promote national births. What makes this study notable is that the researchers completely overlooked that the couples they were studying lived in poverty, which was actually the real reason why they chose not to give birth.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@spidermonkeyh2l Colsen Center, as you've just explained, works in prison ministry. Using the same principle, it sounds like your source failed to use "scope" in making his conclusion as to what was the actual cause to his subjects' problems. It was not homosexuality that caused his patients to end up in prison, nor was it the direct reason for their personal hardships.
spidermonkeyh2l 4 months ago
@ZealandGamerXD But see Merriam-Webster ("foun·da·tion·al adjective"); Sossamon v. Texas, 131 S. Ct. 1651, 1663 n.10 (2011) ("the foundational rule [is] that waiver of sovereign immunity must be unequivocally expressed"); Penrose, in Feynman, Six Not-So-Easy Pieces xv (relativity "is a foundational ingredient of [our] universe"); Willinsky, Empire of Words: The Reign of the OED 20 (describing "a complete record of the English language" as "a foundational document"). You're owned and dumb, bitch.
sklanger 4 months ago
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@tazer74 Can you please start from the assumption that THERE IS NO GOD.
Now tell us all about the benefits of hating and discriminating against gays. Unless you have something other than fairy tales to back you up, don't bother. You're dealing with a college graduate here. Mythology and superstition don't impress me.
SynchroTotal 4 months ago
My position when it comes to gay people is always the same - how can you hate gays? Ian McKellen is one.
AlbertBundy 4 months ago 8
@AlbertBundy fukin magneto is gay? no wonder he was recruiting those young mutant boys
sagatbalrog 4 months ago
@sagatbalrog that was lame
sixpointneuf 4 months ago
@sagatbalrog ...i don't know whether i should be offended or laugh...cuz that's f'in hilarious
fibsequence 4 months ago
Annoys me that people applaud at 1.48 - he gets cut off really from expressing a real opinion! Hardly tackling the subject at all really :/ this scares me!
paulac2006 4 months ago
MUST BE COLD DA STUDIO!
dblemn 4 months ago
I don't agree with idea of this clinic. But Michele Bachman could have made it easier on herself by saying that this is voluntary treatment on the part of the patient........ the treatment could then be considered patient centered, and therefore valid. Don't mistake what I am saying, I don't agree with the validity of this treatment.
51actual 4 months ago
Honestly I am against gay marriage because the Christians religion states that a man should not be with another man and should only marry women. (even though it's quite stupid). They have their religion and lettings gays marry is sort of a slap in their faces. Even though I am Atheist and gay myself. A civil partnership should do just fine.
Anichols321 4 months ago
@Anichols321 Here's a quick thought for you: separation of church and state.
Spirituse6 4 months ago
@Anichols321 I disagree. Your argument would work if marriage were a tradition and nothing else. If it were that condition, then gays really don't have any say in having marriages. However, it's not just a tradition anymore, but something recognized by government and a justification for acquiring federal benefits. At the point where one group of people are more liable to acquire the said benefits and condition of having marriage, that's not balancing interests, and it is still unequal.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@Anichols321 When it comes, then, to civil partnerships, the problem is that they don't grant neither the equal benefits nor the equal consideration as marriage does. If you're going to say that we can make civil unions equal, then at this point, you acknowledge that a civil union should be equal to marriage and tacitly and implicitly agree that same-sex marriage is the way to go.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@lightandbeautiful
You like a typical BIGOT!
richoldbury 4 months ago
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Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
@Mattixxg: On "how Dare I compare gay discrimination with color or being Jewish": First off I didnt but...a few examples. 1st. Holocaust:.gays were also rounded up and gased. 2.Castro's Cuba..yep..originally gays rounded up & jailed. my favorite example: on Oprah. A young BLACK lesbian was spilling her heart out at the hurt of not having support of her Own family. Family is #1.. we can learn to deal with the hate from others, but the ones that count are our famlily. Many gays dont get that.
michaelfromdc 4 months ago
@michaelfromdc
Again, your comparison is a joke. Hitlers goal was not to go after the gays (i just love how you guys think youre the center of attention lol).
Secondly his goal was to destroy an ENTIRE race. Being gay was an afterthought.
Hitlers big picture was race. Period.
Just because a BLACK lesiban was on oprah doesnt take from the fact that theres two different levels. (its lie a Jr high kid trying to compare basketball notes with Micheal Jordan).
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg : I give up! Some people just dont want to learn. One departing thing..come to Washington DC and visit the Holocaust Museum. You will learn that gay people were rounded up and killed Only for being born gay.
As a human being doesn't that bother just a bit that someone's child was killed for being born gay....?
michaelfromdc 4 months ago
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@michaelfromdc
Ive already addressed this. Go back and read my comments.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
Respond to this video...
Also, as far as her family not accepting it.
Well..welcome to the real fucking world.
Marry someone your parents dont like?
They go through something like that. Family wont accept it.
Date someone the family doesnt like? Familiars wont accept it.
Romeo and Juliet....you get the picture.
Again, stop acting like gays are so special. this shit has been around.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
lol we just learned in school about political figures avoiding questions, but it so funny to see them actually doing it! Answer the question bitch!
artistichowl 4 months ago
@artistichowl Leftist Misogyny at its finest
shotsky94 4 months ago
@gatchAttk
Please go back and read my posts on comparing sexual preference with race.
Two ENTIRELY different levels.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg No, because you're trying to be overly technical where it suits you. Suck my dick, it's long and hairy, you gay man you.
gatchAttk 4 months ago
@gatchAttk
Not really. Unless you fail at English comprehension, what i typed was pretty straight forward.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg Yes, it was - straightforwardly prejudice and douchy. Fuck you, or suck my dick. It's your choice
gatchAttk 4 months ago
" i like sarah palin.." fail
TheGodGhost 4 months ago
She really, really knows how to dance around an issue. What a horrible woman.
Shelby596 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
Historically, you kill a Black person, you can have a bon fire and take photos (ala the KKK). Kill a gay person, and youre gong to prison for life.
I could write a book on how life for Jews being exterminated was NOTHING like the cute, lightweight "persecution" of current day gays.
Oh..you got beat up because youre gay. Wow. Big fucking deal. MOST kids get bullied or beat up for something in school. You act as if youre "special" and that shit just annoys me.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg - I'm not going to get into a debate about how many people have been killed for what reason, but you do realize that in many countries today, homosexuality is punishable by death. I don't know of any nation where skin color is a crime.
Also, today most religions aren’t used to persecute people for their skin color, unlike sexual orientation.
Also, I don't hear about teenage suicides because of racial intolerance.
So you should try to THINK, before you type stupid comments.
TheAnthony8650 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
Do you NOT read history books?
What the fuck is wrong with you people? Remember the HOLOCAUST (racial)?
Youre SERIOUSLY trying to equate this gay shit to something like that>?
You people have your heads stuck so far up your ass its absolutely amazing.
Read up on the MIDDLE PASSAGE (racial)you stupid ass....you are the LAST person to be trying to defend gay pride because you dont even know basic fucking history.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
Wow..im offended FOR African Americans for you stupid ass comment.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg - In the last 50 years, please name a case where someone got away with murdering an African-American.
Didn't OJ Simpson go free after murdering a caucasian man and woman?
You stated: "jews being exterminated" < The Nazis killed homosexuals along with the jews, so you are a contemptible idiot for being so ignorant.
You are an idiot and that annoys me.
TheAnthony8650 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
First off, google it. If you paid attention to Black history month, u wouldn't even say such stupid shit.
OJ simpson? lol...one out of a million. Ill give u that.
Yeah gays were also killed. But do NOT act like they were his main purpose. Gays were an after thought.
Hitlers goal was to exterminate the entire race of jews. Stop trying to act like , "OMG Gay people are all gonna die!"
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg - You stated: "google it" < Google what? America's racist past?
The President of this nation is African-American.
One of the leading GOP candidates is African-American. The only openly gay GOP candidate was banned from the debates.
Segregation in the military was ended by President Truman. That was decades ago. Just last month, gays could finally serve openly in the military.
Employers can still fire someone for being gay. No federal laws prevents that.
TheAnthony8650 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
Are you that dumb?
How many African American presidents in the FUCKING HISTORY of the USA has their been? Or ANY minority.
(Obama is mixed, mind you).
Answer both please, the number of African American Presidents, and the length of time we have been a nation.
Also, the percentage.
Im in SoCali, and not hiring someone on sexual preference is illegal here.
(Im hoping your not THAT fucking blind...)
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg - So go cry me a river if you think it's any easier being gay than it is being of a racial minority.
TheAnthony8650 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
Instead of running your mouth without researching on youtube..actually WATCH these movies then come back to me in a week or so.
------- Schindler's List To Kill A Mockingbird American History X Malcolm X Crash Romper Stomper Men of Honor A Time to Kill Mississippi Burning Amistad
You are a selfish and INCREDIBLY IGNORANT person if youre dumb enough tho think that sexual preference can be compared to the 3plus MILLION that died.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg So, here's a thought (and note that even though I find your comments very distasteful, I am able to reply without all kinds of unnecessary name calling). Let's count up all of the GLBT people who have been harmed because of their sexuality. Put in jail, fired from jobs, bullied, beat on, and yes, killed. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a MUCH higher number than you think. But regardless of whether or not their sufferings are equal to the sufferings of other groups of people (TBC).
Spirituse6 4 months ago
@Spirituse6
I do not doubt that its a high number. A death is a death which is awful in any regard. Its just the context in which the situation is displayed in comparison that is offensive .
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
To make light of their deaths all because you want to fuck a guy in the ass is HIGHLY offensive and while im in disgust at what you do sexually, that nonchalant attitude makes me HATE people like you.
Gays will NEVER be in comparison to the countless jewish and other lives that were lost during the war.
You dont know shit about history and are only concerned about your ass and cock.
Gay advocates = Ignorant, selfish.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg - You stated: "makes me HATE people" < Hatred makes you absolutely no different than a member of the KKK.
You claim to be against prejudice and yet you spew it better than any other bigot, you scumbag.
People CHOOSE to be jewish, being gay is NOT a choice.
You are a complete moron and everyone that reads your comments can see that.
Mattixxg = Ignorant, homophobic, selfish, and a disgusting idiot.
TheAnthony8650 4 months ago
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@TheAnthony8650
You have to be the dumbest fucker on youtube. I should have known you would have taken that out of context. You fail at reading comprehension.
"To make light of their deaths all because you want to fuck a guy in the ass is HIGHLY offensive and while im in disgust at what you do sexually, that nonchalant attitude makes me HATE people like you."
Youre debating skills suck ass lol. I can NOT believe you chopped my statement up like that.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg It's ignorant and selfish to want to have equal rights?
StormchaserKnight 4 months ago
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@StormchaserKnight
Go back and read my comments. That was not the basis of my statement.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg (and just so you know, African Americans are not the only group who have suffered), GLBT people have still certainly SUFFERED. And you're careless flinging about of curse words and filth just make you look ignorant, not the people you're arguing against.
Spirituse6 4 months ago
@Spirituse6
At this point i really dont care if i look ignorant.
Its been consistent with gay advocates if you disagree they are
Youre a bigot full of hate etc
youre a religious freak
Youre uneducated.
The thing is, people are being FORCED to agree with the gay lifestyle.
If you dont, then you are, for lack of a better word, persecuted.
So after trying to be sensible, i said fuck it. You want to call me out, im going to let you fuckers have it.
And it happens ALOT on youtube.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg Alright, just a couple of things with what you're saying. (1) When these other users are comparing the conditions of homosexuals to African Americans and Jews, they're talking on the basis of the kind of treatment, not the degree at which these treatments were carried out. As an avid supporter of homosexual rights, I have to agree that the burdens that had been placed on gays in years past are incomparable to the ones of blacks and Jews.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@ScarletGhost4356 There were four gay guys who had just watched a baby’s head get crushed with a boot, they had tears in their eyes walking towards their death in the oven with hundreds of squirming screaming people but they walked with their heads held high. There were two 15 year old boys caught kissing each other in Iran, a few months later they walked as men to be hung in front of their families in the middle of town square and on youtube.
thework4444 4 months ago
@thework4444 Oh yeah, I forgot about those. I was only thinking of America for some reason. Maybe the degrees to which discrimination is played is not so dissimilar after all, but regardless of the degree, discrimination is discrimination. Thanks for reminding me of that, by the way.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@ScarletGhost4356 life like Marcus Bachmann but if you grow up in a poor area whether rural or inner city good luck to you if you walk on your toes.
thework4444 4 months ago
@ScarletGhost4356 Sarah Palins 9 year old daughter called someone who was provoking her a foggot many times online- had she said kike or ni**** Sarah Palin herself would be homeless now. Gays are beat up/humiliated daily in class, in the hallway, at the bus stop and on the walk home. When something bad does happen over and over its funny how many times the school will say it’s a problem for the police and vice versa. Yes there are some who can hide and skim easily through
thework4444 4 months ago
@ScarletGhost4356 No problem, I hope I didn’t come across as too harsh. I personally believe that having anything in common with those who are homophobic and religious as in the government of Iran as one example is expecting and giving shit. Gays are bashed all day every day in many schools in America for those boys who don’t act like a grunt.
thework4444 4 months ago
@Mattixxg (1, cont.) I may get a nasty comment from saying that, but let's face it: gays weren't institutionally enslaved nor were they taken off to ovens. However, the parallels between the kind of discrimination that they are facing: the institutionalized mandates by government directly made against a group of people; the relentless harassment and bullying people within this group; the hate crimes against this group of people. What matters isn't the degree of suffering that they get.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@ScarletGhost4356
Trust me, there are many out there who take offense to these comparisons.
A lifetime ago, i used to play basketball. Micheal Jordan would laugh if i tried to compare notes with him.
Same with someone who plays paintball vs someone who has been in real wartime combat.
There are some similarities, but its being presented as identical and is somewhat comedic, at best.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg When DON’T you think about homosexuality, Marcus?
thework4444 4 months ago
@thework4444
On a side note..who is Marcus? lol..
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@Mattixxg You.
thework4444 4 months ago
@Mattixxg (1, cont.) What matter is the nature of the treatment that they're being subjected to, and at the end of the day, discrimination is discrimination. From there comes the analogy between homosexuals' suffering and the ones of blacks and Jews. (2) Another thing, you're saying that most kids get bullied for something at school. Where do you draw the conclusion that MOST kids get bullied? Also, do you agree that bullying on ANYONE is something that shouldn't happen?
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago
@TheAnthony8650
First off you cant "hide" being say..asian..or black. No way. Its just there. Second, its highly offensive that you make such a comparo like that. No matter how much a Black person "acts" White, if you will, they are still, in fact Black.
No amount of mental training, or keeping it in the closet or hiding it will change the fact that you are black. Historically, there were Black locations and white. Gays can go to ANY location historically, they choose.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@sklanger
Its a shame. ANY minority should be up in arms about that comparison because its a joke. Its like comparing a marine in Afghanistan to some guy that plays paintball. They are on two entirely different levels.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
she tried to deflect the conversation by making her "pray the gray away" joke... lol pathetic
jbharlequinn 4 months ago
she's saying "we don't discriminate, yet she says being gay is a an "issue"....
2010promotecheese 4 months ago
Jay was WAY to easy on her! He had a valid logical point, and she just looked like an idiot avoiding the issue.
christopherse2 4 months ago 24
u didn't see him ask obama that
MikaOwns 4 months ago
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Leno is just towing the liberal agenda here.
MALE FERTILISES THE FEMALE EGG
HENCE PRO-CREATION
THIS IS NATURE
I respect homosexuals as human beings, but their actions I do not.
Why is The West is committing societal suicide?
bertyUK 4 months ago
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bertyUK 4 months ago
GAY PEOPLE ARE AWESOME! DON'T PRAY MY GAYS AWAY!
astranger15 4 months ago 33
@astranger15 liking a group just because they are discriminated is just as bad as hating them. like people for themselves, if you like a group, you're saying you like a lot of people you don't know, a lot of which could be assholes. I'm just saying loving people because they are different not only won't help discrimination, it is a part of it.
Liton777 4 months ago
@Liton777 you're thinking wayyy too much into my statement. I think you need to start writing on a philosophy forum, not the comment section on youtube. Either way, DON'T YOU BE PRAYIN' MY GAYS AWAY!
astranger15 4 months ago
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vechorik 4 months ago
I never liked Jay Leno, he has a bad reputation and he always looks like the safest of guys to have on television (meaning boring, non-controversial) but I like how he probed her a little on that one.
XxSayrosxX 4 months ago
As a gay man, I appreciate what Jay tries to convey to her. But some people refuse to change and in twenty years her head will spin because gay marriage will probably be legal in every state.
tydaze18 4 months ago
i'd say i hope she dies in a fire, but judging from her face she's already come close.
Melty faced bigot whore.
MrIkabodjohn 4 months ago
@MrIkabodjohn
And this is why theres a divide.
Dont agree with homosexuality or have your own opinion, youll be hated by gays.
Real mature...
Mattixxg 4 months ago
the bitch cant even explain why gay marriage is bad because she doesnt know why
Metakkrist 4 months ago
only GOP candidate doing talk shows... i wonder why?
ganaschico 4 months ago
Jay Leno just can't let it alone. He never actually got a response out of Michele Bachmann for all these anti Americans to explode about. Psychology, a pseudo science at best, has changed its mind and now does not refer to homosexuality as a disease or aberrant behavior. Were they right in the past or now? That is the only leg homosexuality stands on and that is social intimidation of a pseudo science to declare them normal. Not much to go on if you ask me. Homosexuality is a sickness.
jpaulg54 4 months ago
@jpaulg54 The only sick one here is you. Pseudo Science? Really? Don't let me believe you're that Damn Stupid. ( And for that reason no one did ask you) If you can, generate a video response with (intelligent) ideas and research to back it up. The Bible doesn't count either, buddy. It's, more than less, fiction and a form of modern slavery. If you can't or just "know" you're right then don't ever comment again. Please for our sake. Oh! and watch out because a gay is coming to "infect" you.
FauxShizzle9 4 months ago
@FauxShizzle9 Homosexuality is not called a sickness because it has no negative consequences unlike homophobia. You seem to think about men getting hard for each other A LOT, Marcus.
thework4444 4 months ago
@thework4444 What are you trying to convey? I don't understand. Refine your explaination a little, please. Who's Marcus? Hopefully, you don't think that's me. If it's someone else, could you please reply to them directly?
Hulk confused....
FauxShizzle9 4 months ago
@jpaulg54 Psychology is a pseudo science? LOL. That's cute. You just made it impossible for anyone to take you seriously.
Kiialy 4 months ago
@jpaulg54
Psychology is not a pseudo science, its a real science supported by real scientists, what the hell do you think is used for soldiers with PTSD? For people with mental breaks and so on? Idiot.
As for it not supporting homosexuality as normal, well, ever heard of "following the norm"? Thats what it did before saying "gays are fine" the science followed the dogmatic view that it was wrong based from what? The bible, as soon as science came in, guess what, they changed.
MitchofSmeg 4 months ago
@MitchofSmeg Actually the clinical name for ptsd is pussitis. its a condition where a person, usually a man, turns into a emo puss.
lordofkronos 4 months ago
@lordofkronos
hahaha so funny, Fucking trolls.
MitchofSmeg 4 months ago
@lordofkronos
Ethug=never served in ANY military=never left the state hes lived in.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
@lordofkronos
In addition, it takes some pretty big balls to even join in a time of war.
Mattixxg 4 months ago
Look at those legs
Flamingames 4 months ago
Turn it off, like a light switch
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Treat those pesky feelings like a reading light and turn em off,
Like a light switch just go bap!
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felya420 4 months ago
She's a real piece of...work!
andreaverdura 4 months ago
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debtbully3 4 months ago
Bachmann another coward, she is affraid, she don't like to offend the LGBT. Man, I could say: GAY MARRIAGE IS PERVERT. REALLY EVIL. You like it, i don't like it. You think gays are normal. I think homosexuals men can't adopt boys. They are potential pedophiles. So???? Come on Michele!!! The next president of the U.S. can't fear LGBT, you can say whatever you want. ITS A FREE DAMN COUNTRY
antinazicholos5 4 months ago
@antinazicholos5 Calm down, Marcus.
thework4444 4 months ago
@thework4444 go away, Julia
antinazicholos5 4 months ago
@antinazicholos5 Who is Julia, Kim Mathers?
thework4444 4 months ago
@antinazicholos5 Yes, the evil LGBT community with their adopting babies and children with aids, the terrorism they plague with world with, their welfare that drinks all our money dry…sick really sick.
Get a life you flying worthless toad. Put your energy into something other than sticking up for those who are weird about homosexuality.Young girls are supposed to be more mature than that. I am sure you can see you are in the minority with your opinions along with the KKK and Nazis- you like?
thework4444 4 months ago
@thework4444 The nazis loved lipstick lesbians and very masculine bisexual men, they sent to concentration camps only travestites and effeminate gays. Read the Pink Swaztika, interesting book.
Hitler was an artist, vegetarian, he loved animals more than humans, pro-abortion (specially jewish fetuses), environmentalist, and of course, his buddhist symbol... seems Hitler was a democrat
antinazicholos5 4 months ago
@antinazicholos5 Hitler also belived the entire nation should be christian and those who didn't conform to his set of ideals should be put to death. He believed in a strong military, Small centralized Government, and hated foreigners. He also was extremely nationalistic, seems he was a republican too.
Earthmoover 4 months ago