▶ World of Warcraft - Rogue changes! (level 85) - WoW Rogue - TGN.TV

[Juledass95]

i was an lvl 80 rouge undead when i played this game as a kid, and now i moved on to warrior, but i want to go back to rouge,, but wich race should i choose?

one of my friends says that blood elfs are the best, but i think undead is a little bit cooler rouges, but wich race is the best rouge for horde??

[Geralbinho]

You have a new mail...

[UnknownJin90]

3.3.5 still pwns nuff said.. No skills in cata just crits like 300000000000000000000000000000­00000000000000000crit!! wow pro thats some skills god damn it

[ChristFollower71]

did they remove that cloak thing for rogues?

[craftedgamers]

@MrMeatbunz recount dps

[MrMeatbunz]

whats the add on he uses to record dps???

[raddpuppy70]

I have just returned after many years to this game and im only a level 9 rogue. I started all over because I feel I need to relearn my class and alot has changed. My question is should I be using the slowest highest damage weapons I can because speed doesnt matter when your using skills, or should I be using daggers to maximize my killing speed?

[hooshjames]

@raddpuppy70 With a Mutilate build, which I consider the bread and butter of pvp, a slow mainhand dagger is fine as long as you have a faster offhand dagger. Being at a lower lvl, though, you have time to mess with other weapon combos b4 mut is available.

[WorldUfWarcraft]

watch?v=1qVQY-3gQdU& and enjoy

[THE666OFTHEBEAST]

btw dude you have (a mail )

[august120598]

Combat FTW!!!!:)

[Pedramkanjin]

want tips for paladins (retri) go to channel Pedramkanjin

[Lemulisko]

Can somebody tell how to poison ur weapon with rogue?!!? PLEASE ANSWER

[tmac1shady99]

@Lemulisko buy posions and then just put them on weapon with right click

[hooshjames]

@Lemulisko right click the poison(I keep mine on my action bar all the time) then left click your weapon on your character viewer

[jessnchua]

haven't played this game for 2 years now but I'm sure this is the new spam for rogues.. lol

[Heny313]

clicky clicky

[CitrineVlogging]

is that a blodo elf your playing?

[Trambolin111]

If you're REALLY oldschool you remember 2.0 ... Lold

[KimBeauSlice]

Yes you can use redirect from corpses

[JohnsonMatthewR]

I'm sorry ur not that good of a rogue I'm lvl 45 and I hit 1.5ks... Ur 85 and u hit a 5k...

[StrategistCOD]

@JohnsonMatthewR so ur saying that you are killing mos 15 levels above u in one hit? wut?

[JohnsonMatthewR]

@StrategistCOD yeah how'd u know

[wwe41001]

thumps up if u r watching this in 1948

[CitrineVlogging]

@wwe41001 nope, 1899

[streetkingz14]

lol, im glad that i picked rogue as my first character

[bethanyviollette]

@streetkingz14 Rogues own :)

[logileksen]

Hey how do you get the game to show the nubmer on your health and energy? I only get that when i have the character screen open, help would be much appreciated thanks, im new :p.

[CorruptN8V]

I watched this video about 2 weeks ago, Liked it, Bought the game, Bought game time I am now lvl 79 Sub rogue

[rainbowsixmaster1990]

Alright, when i play wow as any class, i find my self with so many usefull spells, they dont fit on my action bars, so i find my self clicking on them. is there a way to avoid this. Thank you

[TheNyree99]

which is the best spec for a shaman orc

[rogerile97]

@TheNyree99 well it depends what you like.. if you like healing then go restoration, if you like warrior type go enchainment, and if you like full spell casting go elemental.My personal oppinion is enchainment cuz it kicks ass

[XDeathCryerX]

wow using assassination with eviscerate...fucking pro

[koreath]

i think ima get exposed armr... i cant hit through that boa armr...

[funkymonkey5555]

What is that program hes using for keybinding? < noob here, sorry.

[MrChipstarter]

You got mail!

[TonsofFun777]

@lShadowHunter subtlety

[slipspacer88]

how hard is it to level a rogue

[razrbitchful]

@slipspacer88 Subtlety

[Ashbeat1209]

@slipspacer88 troll

[904RoadReview]

The only thing I can see that would help in a small way for this rogue handler is to make his looting Auto Loot.... he loots everything so why click each item the dead drop?

[yortin]

Hey i was wondering who video recording device you are using? Also, do you have to pay for it? Also your videos look very nice because of the HD. Do you upload it already in HD or does YouTube make it HD when uploaded? Thanks for the help =D!

[detheuss]

wtf how does mastery go well with slow weapon? there is a percentual chance a swing, so we need more swings to increase the percentual chance a minute... not a slow weapon, maybe to offhand.

[sysrqheat]

i cant believe that there are actually some retard ppl saying that he is poorly geared and probably the worse rogue ever .... you guyz are just stupid this video was aploaded on Sep 24, 2010 it means that he was 85 and probably you guyz were just starting your way to level up to level 85 .... have a life haters

[glupsamja]

thank you

[CriteriaWoW]

which talent tree should i use?

[AkuPSer]

Hey, you have mail you didnt read xD

[gso619]

overlooking teh fact that this guy can put a cup of coffe asleep, this is very informative

[myndsnow]

you need more pvp gear bud your health is low i have a level 85 rogue 117k health

[904RoadReview]

@myndsnow dear monkey, if you'll notice this video was uploaded in 2010, um, ya, things have changed since then doncha think?..

[milku6666]

the worst level 85 rogue i have ever seen

[torlagegrasal]

subtility is best on PVP because you can teleport back the player you attack and then use ambush for sick damage. Combat is best for PVE because Blade flurry that attack two peoples in like 10 or 15 sec. Assanation is good at raid have I heard because of the sick poison. Rate up this video, after I saw this video I wanted to play rouge. THUMBS UP!!

[TheRandomGuyNextDoor]

@torlagegrasal first learn the names of the different rogue specs before giving advice

[Faust013]

@torlagegrasal You.. wrote.. ROUGE.. ! DISRESPECT! >:C

[majormom357]

@torlagegrasal i play a rogue and i suck at it i recmmend playing a warrior and maxing a warrior out then play a rogue

[stran26]

hey guys is he using something similar to bartender?

[noodlesman12]

@stran26 the gray bars?no that comes with wow under interface look at actionbars

[100umaster]

Idk y but this guy just bor's me sorry

[Zouthex]

@100umaster because you don't want to learn and probly not rolling a rogue ;p sure it's much talking but u learn alot by listnin'

[sk8pn]

hey can some one tell me the best atributes for a rogue

[AvengedGuitarist15]

@sk8pn yeah agility, stamina, hit rating, haste rating, crit rating, attack power, and more agility

[FanOfEpec35]

Great vid dude <3

[CejkaH]

That CP "bug" is not a bug. Recuperate says that you CAN use them on corpses, and why not with snd...

[lilmrock4456]

@CejkaH That is probably why he said "many moons ago" in "beta" it was a "bug" and they "made it part of the game".

[Volton75]

can anyone help me im gonna get wow should Im gonna be a horde rogue but i dont know what race to chose

[skowra]

what talents are best for Rogue????

[WolfriesL]

@skowra Restoration

[CejkaH]

@WolfriesL Yea, restoration for rogue is the best lol.

[Ziiiv]

Expose Armor IS completely free thanks to your relentless strikes. When you use Expose armor, the combo points are refunded thanks to IMP expose armor, and the energy is refunded thanks to Relentless strikes.

10:41

[alexmizer97]

Smoke bomb reminds me of AC brotherhood

[pashou23]

subtely FTW

[Sunkincid]

@pashou23 I LOVE SUB!! I'm still paranoid they're going to nerf it one day.

[Chris1218218]

@Sunkincid

They will...at least for leveling. It's tough to say "rogues are the hardest class to level" when you two shot everything.

[RifleKingxx]

MMmhHHhm,MM WTF GUY THESE GAME KINDA HAVE GAY GRPHICS

[SPRS4]

Fast OH and slow MH was always a must for PvE combat rogues. In PvP, slow/slow was optimal, because then your KS would hit like a truck. I haven't played WoW in 8 months now though. Put in a good 4 years and just burned out. Was a combat rogue probably 3.6 of those years, and for a short time, because my gear sucked at the beginning of Wrath, I went Mut for a short period, but went right back to combat. I just think combat brought a lot more versatility to the fight and with gear, it matchedMut

[TheK2bakken]

lol everything you say until slice and dice was before cata

[TheK2bakken]

repucarate was like that before cata to?

[mlgprox1]

what talent tree should i put up as a rouge?

[evilmonkeylords]

OMG? AMBUSH FOR ALL WEAPONS?! YAY ! :D!

[christian3848]

i like the rogue i am going to make a rogue what is the best talent for a rogue

[Extrasailor]

So now..can somebody answer to my question?...

Can a 85 rogue beat up a 85 def/holy paladin or a 85 def warrior if both are playing wow since it exists and both are the best of the best???

[904RoadReview]

@Extrasailor "Can a 85 rogue beat up a 85 def/holy paladin or a 85 def warrior if both are playing wow since it exists and both are the best of the best???" ,,, there are no players in game that never lose. Just give your question a thought or two. Spend a few seconds longer than it takes to read your question. So, what you have learned is Yes the rogue can win, just not every time. Besides, keep in mind Blizzy favors Pallys,,, you know, the OP class, ya those guys.

[areotim]

fail you have atleast a 70% crit chance on ambush and u didnt

[wraseone]

Noob talants! Real pro's use Subtly

[RaWxUndertakerPRO]

@wraseone Talents*.. With the new talents Combat makes good damage now :)

[Snowjob96]

Whats the best rogue pvp spec?

[Football1013kdwb]

Haha, kool, this is the first time i havent seen ppl spazing out on each other in the first page of comments under a warcraft vid...ppl go crazy over this game

[LivinPolish360]

Seems like its time to get back on my rogue insted of playing the warlocks =]

[krusokat]

Combat readiness? u forgot combat readiness u dwarf! >:O

[JamieC4kes]

Hey i had a question, I want to start leveling a rogue. I had a question about the heriloom gear. Do you think I should waste the time on my main (85 pala) to get the heriloom gear, Or just level with the gear you get from quests/dungeons etc?

[Littleguurl13]

If you wanna Loot Evrythink Just Do Shift.. Then loot =)

[go2google22]

could i just buy this game or do i need to buy original WoW?

[Iwillgetyou2]

@go2google22 Your name says it all

[jackmojomech]

You should have explained the Major de-buff on sublety rogues Ambush

[dennit1221]

youre a fucking bad rogue ....

[justfrank1993]

@dennit1221 He is only showing abilities ,talent and new thing about rogues...Hes not showing skill rogue pvp...Go see arena rogue to see skilled rogue or just learn to read title '' Rogue 85 CHANGES ''

[PivotNerd2]

Assassin the best

[tedado85]

F Nice ! Iam playing Rogue to.. the best class

[DJPillzOfficial]

If i wanted to start playing WoW, would i then have to buy ALL the expansions?

[Ninja1881]

@DJPillzOfficial yea

[TheCGSTV1]

sub evis oldschool bc style is back now its a survival spec it can make you out last almost every other non healing class

[MrBreiss]

Have u recuperate at 1st lvl??

[xrikimarux]

rogue now feels more like rogue.. hard and fast.. and seriously.. BE rogue? BE???!?!? ever feel like getting a race change? something less noobie..

[deatthkid66]

@xrikimarux Undead Rogues look best imo

[krusokat]

@deatthkid66 Dwarf rogues all teh way !

[985136]

@xrikimarux haha BE rogue are pretty good there ability to silence a target for 2 seconds gives me that kill i needed

[985136]

@xrikimarux omg he doesnt even have it down

[zzownzuzz]

whats the best spec for pvp for a rogue at lvl 85?

[Lenix007]

14:50

Loving the laugh :D

"Ehah, how cool is that?"

[shockingstun1]

so whats the best spec for pvp and for pve?? please anyone respond.

[rainzoro]

i hate vandetta and shadowdance and i only pvp.

so this is like a byebye for me and a hello to locks

[Evilimmortal666]

What kind of bags are you using on that character?

[420fury]

i did the beta and assassin is pretty decent for pve and sub still takes the cake on pvp is way better now. rogues got bad ass =D

[FuKuRoKu17]

subtlety :D

[ribarmilos]

So go assasination now? :D

[ribarmilos]

Rogues are overpowered now,and I dont like it.

[giott3]

WAIT! Did rogues just get a bubble? Almost like an AoE hand of prot. I smell smokehearth QQ's...

[torlagegrasal]

what do u guys think what is best combat or assasination?

[giott3]

@torlagegrasal PvE i assume? No clue...Ass looks the most fun to use as of yet tho.

[emin257]

are rogues better now or are they nerfed in cata?

[skat00r]

80k hp lol u are kidding me!

[420fury]

@skat00r dude i did the beta too i saw a goblin war with 120k hp it was fucking outrageous and blood dks are tanks now they are pointless to dual they will own you so many self heals now

[skat00r]

@420fury wierd



[mitchell2617]

If 4k is is 3% wtf is your health >..<

[nykk0n]

80k hp lol

[Hakke777]

u missed the fact that u can also poison ur throwing weapon now, and FoK dont do weapon dmg anymore, it does throwing wep dmg instead :P

[rexyboy100]

As well as other dungeons I would dps

[rexyboy100]

I don't get the loving of assassination spec for rogues.As a rogue I lvld with sub spec. When I got to the point of wanting to duel spec I went assassin..... My dps was the same and not that good... Vrs me going combat and constantly holding top dps in icc

[oo0GameOver0oo]

how did you unlock all trees at level 85?

[vgamedude12]

They should call it Casterclysm. Spell casters are going to destroy everyone.

[exasaa]

Slow weapon in main hand and faster weapon in off hand for that talents and best is main hand more slower and more stronger and for off hand is better faster so for that talents you can also try in main and off hand slow weapons ^^ i allow to use lock stuns subtlety :)

[rutaku]

@55kikao

Sub if you can get out of battle quickly, no out-of-stealth moves that do any real damage (hemo just does like... what? 500 crit at 40?)

Mutilate is for if you want to have your buddies help or to just solo.

(I suggest Mutilate, since it deals great damage, and with evi, it's amazing)

[55kikao]

whts the best spec for pvp?

[Championsmasta]

I wonder if warriors can intervine or w/e a rogue in the smoke bomb

[rowixan]

is combat a good talent tree?

[StayGold505]

So it seems like Blizz is making Assassination a more steady high dealing dps build putting it in front of Combat.. Have you tested it compared to other classes in a dungeon or raid?..

[truja97]

a healing rogue awesome ! but dude why are u a blood elf rogue and why do u use combat talents!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

[partydude111]

also I still think they nerfed rogues except for that heal thing thats freaking sweet!

[partydude111]

I'm guessing tanks are gonna ahve like 160k health + lol my tank has like 52kunbuffed but i have played in like 4 months

[dragoon0705]

do i see 80k hp?

[TheonlySneakarma]

@dragoon0705 that sounds about right, on beta ill have the rare pvp set and have about 82-83k hp

[981407036x]

im just sayin... redirect is probably the most out of the way spell/skill out there....

[pressar]

when i log in my wow game i can only see one skill bar at the bottom of my screen.how come you have 2 skillbars?

[SuperFrancoco]

It's cool that Vendetta can reveal stealth target but...can it be removed by Cloak of Shadow?

[981407036x]

@SuperFrancoco yes can be removed by CloS

[SoldierClassA]

dam! rogues can now heal??? dat is just too much . Gives the feeling of a vampire

[leonmcv]

sry bout my noobish i still didnt played in cata but why 80k?!! am i crazy?

[IamTristanC]

wow, a slow 1h sword ambush, gonna own anybody

[Scrungie1]

@IamTristanC you can ambush with a sword now, but the dagger still does more damage.

So for everyone wanting a big ambush... use a dagger:P

[Blank00024]

very good video. i highly enjoyed learning about how awesome rogues are looking for cata. thanks and keep em coming!

[Tobiastherock]

I Personly Don't like the vanish shit, the Recup or the stunlock nerf .. Now palas got more stuns than we got. Its true what HammerCOB is saying.. You dont have to work hard now, just mash buttons and hope for the best. They nerf our stun, and give us a Healing shit? Cmon blizz .. u guys can do bether than that.

Many of my friends is rerolling classes atm, Akrios have quited .. What will be the next? The new tier 11 is looking shitty .. The Rogue class will soon be Gone.

Nuff QQ'ing for me.

[ekidz220]

rogue heal! =D

[jefre117]

why you not using posions?

[Nhordmyr]

Please guys: is anyone here who got the Old, vanilla Rogue Sounds for Backstab, Ambush and so on? i'm looking for them for such a loong time! Please if you got any info give them to me.. Appreciate any help!

[Wallam55]

Whats the mastery talent for subtlety spec?

[radule94]

assasins resolve gives u 20 energy but i think u dont have +10 energy gylph anymore :P (Gylph of Vigor)

[Petersonneman]

always nice to see someone put these things in perspective, something about it makes all the change easier to comprehend xD

[nickleplate]

It worries me that you "dont even think of expose armor...its not even on my bar..."

[LordIllidan98]

I hate it how they don't put major changes to Subtely.For god's sake rogues = stealth, rapscallions, etc.... It'll be more fun!! But Assassination is fun as well

[AlexMcMoto1]

hey how did you regain energy so fast?



[CeeJTanK]

Vendetta isn't a PvP only talent. It's the replacement for Hunger for Blood. Instead of a (i think it was)40 second self buff of +5% damage across the board, it's a 30 second debuff on a target that increases all damage you do by 20%.