Freezone part 1

[uriituw]

How could anybody believe this nonsense?

[Svetka812]

I wish to thank you and to validate the video. That is a very straight forward, positive attitude, sharing true data. I was straggling through the dump of critical or aggressive posts of ex-ses, betraying there believes. Here I found the way out by starting my search for the true scientologists with a Free Zone Earth site and going by its links.

Thank you!

[aidathomas]

Svetka I am glad that my videos helped you finding some of the truth about the abuses in the Church of Scientology. Please feel free to write to me.

[cutes22]

Hubbard was insane. You're still brainwashed, in scientology or out.

[transfixedtornado]

Isn't it in some ways positive that they removed this homophobic paragraph from their "policy letter" ?

[taichibailongball]

@transfixedtornado Isn't it time faggots removed their penises from each others bungholes?

[SpiritLadyArtist]

Go Diana. I did post this link to the forum but the church person is too brainwashed to look.

[taichibailongball]

Another side of a lie is still a lie.

[laserofjustice]

I respect that the freezone doesn't use "fair game" and similar criminal acts. However, I still don't see any value in the "tech"- I hope freezoners are open minded enough to read outside of "source".

Much of L Ron "tech" was taken from early psychology, occult and so on.

[BallerinaSmiles]

Hi laser

I am in the FZ and I read alot of diffrent eastern philosophy. The tech is a series of tools and tools can always be improved.

[laserofjustice]

That's good- I believe that the only way to have a balanced understanding is to read up from different sources, including ones that challenge your own beliefs.

It's great that you say that the tools can be improved, some of the tools that L Ron wrote up were of a certain age, so as times change, so will the tools need to.

Please also bear in mind that quite alot of the "tech" was adapted from early psychology despite L Ron's later hatred of "psychs".

[BallerinaSmiles]

Exactly :)

Im not so sure about the tech coming from psych's but I'll look into it

:)

[laserofjustice]

OK- here's a few pointers- the "reactive mind" is really loosely the unconscious mind as discussed by Freud. Dianetics is similar to work by American psychiatrists Grinker and Speigel. Volney Mathison developed the emeter.

The process of auditing itself is hypnotic.

[BallerinaSmiles]

Ive done some auditing, all it is,is asking question and getting an answer I dont see anything wrong with that

[sungis]

I don't get this?

[jas22]

this woman is an idiot. i cant believe shes devoted so much time to get to VIII.

new revision/original-- whats the difference. its all bunk.

[Isayit]

adrfromic; Using insults towards the person one disagrees with, only shows lack of intelligence and an inability to communicate.

[jas22]

its not an insult. the truth hurts.

[BananaBalerina]

rock on

I totally agree with you

[BananaBalerina]

Okay, yeah you cant communicate with people verry well huh? I feel sorry for you.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

Actually, it's Scientologists who seem to lack the ability to communicate. They are fine talking with their own kind but communication with "normal" people they find hard because after they have been brainwashed or have swallowed this phoney sci fi religion they lose all ability to think clearly & cohesively outside of their little cult clique. Not so much with Freezoners admittedly but definitely the case with CoS slaves. Sad but true.  You can see hundreds of examples of it all over YouTube.

[BananaBalerina]

Sure, the people in the C of S have been mistreated by the used of DM's Squirreled tech.

[adfromlc]

everything in Scientology can not be proven... 1 man did not hold the cures to the worlds illness.

No real Science supports it, nor does it have scientific evidence to what it claims.

[Isayit]

I wish David Miscavige went down in disgrace.

[Creator8008]

Is there a website that gives a list of all the omissions that the "official" church made in their edited works?

[aidita2000]

Just go to google and enter the words 'alterations of the tech' and there is a myriad of sites. Aida

[derekwilliams1982]

Are you saying David Miscavige has been responsible for altering the tech?

[aidita2000]

All I am saying is that the 70's versions from when Ron was alive have been altered after he has died.

I am 100% sure that Ron knew exactly what was printed on his books and now there are serious changes on the original sriptures of Scientology...Who changed them? I do not know, ask David Miscavige he's the one speaking for 3 hrs at those events.

[derekwilliams1982]

I have been informed that this 3 hour briefing is now being mailed out for free. So that might possibly mean sales are not what they expected for whatever reason or...

[derekwilliams1982]

I did in fact recieve a copy of that dvd which is a pretty impressive presentation. But there is no doubt that the books have been totally revised. The reason for it is presented in the briefing.

[Bonhomie88]

In that briefing,Miscavige makes himself out as a hero but in fact is he is a liar. Many of the alterations occured recently under his command.

[derekwilliams1982]

I suspected this. How else would the other editions be released under his watch with out him seeing the altered texts? But despite that the Basics are still an impressive package. There just is no getting around that.

[Bonhomie88]

Yes, he knew, and now the members pay for his mistake, an impressive price $3,000!

[derekwilliams1982]

Boy, what went down in 1982 that would cause so long lasting resentment? I'm not saying David Miscavige is "right" but revising new editions isn't so bad. Even LRH discontinued certain processes in favor of newer ones he developed and insisted all auditors get re-certified. Correct?

[terk0iz]

is every one commenting on this a member of that stupid cult cuz its a load of b.s honestly lies and cons hundreds of dollars to learn to talk to ash trays and talk about alien over lords no thank you

[Bonhomie88]

All Scientologists need to watch this!! Their Scientology Leader, COB Miscavige, has betrayed them and re-wrote the tech. Same magnitude as if the Pope re-wrote the Bible. Please, Forward this video to all Scientologists and get the word out to them, they really dont know.

[michaelrobert1974]

What does "COB" stand for?

[aidita2000]

COB stands for Chairman of the Board, I don't know where that tile comes from or who designated it to David Miscavige, I never seen any legal documents stating that he is COB.

All I know is that Frank Sinatra used to call himself Chairman of the Board of his famous 'pack rat' group of friends...LOL!

[taichibailongball]

Even if they watched this it wouldn't matter. They only believe what they are told by their Church. There is a "special" event that says the original documents and books were wrong and that they fixed it. Of course the original mistakes weren't L. Ron Hubbard's fault but the publishers mistake.

That's all they will believe. Nothing you say. No amount of proof. No amount of truth will change their minds.

They are Scientolobots.

[BallerinaSmiles]

Um Hey hate to break your reality but this isnt from the church.

:)

[taichibailongball]

I didn't say it was from the church. I'm saying even if church members heard this it wouldn't matter. You must understand my reality if you desire an attempt to break it.

[SpiritLadyArtist]

I know for I been trying for the day and a half on a forum promoting the Venus Project to get a church member to wake up and since I am in the freezone and declared SP he will not talk to me and refuses to look. I was referred to post this video and I bowed out out of trying to get him to look.

[cuddles50]

subtitles please

[aidita2000]

My name is Aida Thomas, if anyone wants to write to me, I'll be happy to respond.

[zfanto]

Aida, You are meeting a friend of mine in LA next week. Tell him "Phantom" says hi; he can give you my email addo. I'd love talking with you in private. I too am a class VIII. His name is KT

[Bonhomie88]

Hey Blackpanorama, what so bad about being sweet? Look at your site, its in Tone Level of Antagonism.Whatever happened to "Maintain friendly relations with the public"?? Report to the Cramming Officer, Mary!!

[blackpanorama]

No matter what sweet talk you use, you set out to destroy.

[wasupi355]

Wow. No one can even be slightly critical.

[aidita2000]

"you set out to destroy" Yes? Destroy what? The road to truth is all the way to the end...

Truth is exact place, time, form and event.

If someone says this is to destroy, perhaps needs to look at the Code of Honor again.

[alenlee]

very informative. thank you

[aidita2000]

Gracias por tus cumplidos intrepido, me alegro que te haya gustado el video...

[intrepido34]

Hola Aida! Muchas gracias por tu video! Un gran reconocimiento por tu coraje y habilidad de confrontar.

Estoy muy feliz de que estes aqui y te estes comunicando.

Mencione tambien que estas bien buena?

[pietershazam]

In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland $ciento£ogy is recognised neither as a church nor a charity. It is, in fact a cult. $ciento£ogists do not like that word, so let me repeat it -- CULT.

[sonyagalloway]

I understand what you mean...I just wanted to put out the facts

[aidita2000]

I have ALL the original books from the 70's for anyone to see...

[toditron]

thank you so much for posting these. they are very interesting. are any of these texts (the older originals) available? ..or copies of them? i'm sure many would like to see this material first hand.

[DroopyDDawg2007]

While I am a critic of Scientology, I believe that your videos will drive the point that the "church of Scientology" is lying to the members. Good work

[DroopyDDawg2007]

Not many who are in know about the rather blatant alterations made by the current management.