Many decades ago I was fortunate to see a Vulcan bomber demonstrate some of its amazing flight characteristics at a Fairchild AFB airshow. This airframe has some incredible engineering, but the craft seems perilously underpowered.
@tackN2Wind Having worked on them and flown around the world with them let me tell you that they have as much power as they need. Ever seen one do an 'Arse Ender'? Very short take off and then straight up. Looks slow because of it's size.
The 4 in the back would've known they were going to die...they had no ejector seats and would've heard the 2 pilots eject......terrible that seats were never fitted for all crew.
@macbrack04 Hopefully (though it makes no difference now) the realisation that death was imminent and death itself, would have been so close together, that their brains would have had no time to put all the events into a logical sequence. And then death itself would have probably brought that merciful blackness and release from pain anyway.
@Factnotfictionpeople then you have no conception of the sequences of ejection and presume the brain is either slower or duller in such circumstances.....time stands still almost in these sorts of situations....the knowledge of death being imminent can seem to be there for ages even if it is 5 or 6 seconds....horrific....I know.
@macbrack04 See, you're wrong! I've had racing accidents, so know all about time slowing down. BUT - and its a big 'but', when death occurs within seconds there is no after-memory. So how can you know much about it? And as for you 'knowing' its horrific, how did you manage that? :-)
@Factnotfictionpeople 1. How the fuck do you know death has no 'after memory' ? death is final !! 2. When you have been machine gunned at close quarters and barely survived but your companions did not I think I have a reasonable right to say I survived and understand closeness to death......OMAN ..Dhofar War 1979 Daily Mail June.. newshaedlines...and my 32 year memory.......grow up, experience life or SHUT the FUCK UP you DICKHEAD !!!!
@macbrack04 Want to try again - but make sense this time? You contradict yourself on point 1. And closeness to someone elses death doesn't count, does it. Or were you close to death yourself? As for Dhofar, what makes that special?
"At the very end of the flight" - of course. It never fails. Like the soldier that gets killed the day before he ends his tour and is going home from combat.
@Ismalith - Whittle submitted his first design in 1928 - Hans van Ohain didn't even start till 1935, 3 years after the patent was granted to Whittle.
The only serious 'adoption' was arround axial flow - perhaps if German application of their work had been more constructive the rest of the world might have been more inclined to let them develop it further?
@albion2742 I've usually heard the Germans were the first to make real ejection seats, and I doubt that if any one country hadn't done it that it never would have happened. Some things are bound to come around sooner or later, out of neccessity. You think that if the Wright Bros. weren't the first to fly, it never would have happened? Don't be stupid.
@EvilxMerlin Really? I'm not surprised. I sometimes suspect the Germans handiness with engineering comes from their close ancestry with the Swiss. =) Imagine the planes they could have been building in 1939 if they had the economy (and good reason) to support a large scale attempt at making a first-rate combat plane?
Actually the I meant Swedish, not Swiss. Sorry. SAAB was messing around with ejection seats in very late 1939 and were deploying them in J-21s by 1943 en-masse. The Germans didn't start doing it until 1944 with the Uhu and He-162.
@EvilxMerlin Ah, yes. Another country of clever people (I'm a fan of Volvo's myself). I'd read about the J21 before, but I didn't know they used ejection seats. A good example of "Necessity being the Mother of All Invention". They had to find a way to allow a pilot to bail-out safely from a pusher-prop plane without getting chopped up by the props, so they used an ejector seat. And I like how easily they converted the J21 to jet power after the war!
The Swedes, Fins and Danes all did remarkable things during the war... and yeah the J21 to 21R... few people know the Swedes powered the orginal J21 with a Swedish copy of the DB605.
@aspiringdrummer17 That's what I always thought too, but these things can be kind of vague sometimes....sometimes "buying" an engine just means you buy license, maybe tooling to build it yourself. Although, it seems like given the limited number of planes they built, it might not have been worth the cost of setting up for engine production. Building engines takes more infrastructure than planes, which can be almost hand-built.
@justforever96 True. That's why the Soviets had to buy French engines because they couldn't develop good enough ones of their own even though the aircraft that these engines powered were rather impresive. Same with the Italians, fantastic planes, mediocre engines
@Landotter1 Sure he was...Butthead was the Navigator. It's not well known, but this round-the-world flight was never meant to happen. They got lost and decided to keep flying until they finally saw their air base again. Amazingly enough, through some coincidence, they just happened to make it around the world. They were quite surprised at the celebration when they finally landed from their routine hop, and found reporters and champagne waiting for them. They were hoping that no one had noticed!
@justicepartyuk hey a**hole, If 911 was an excuse to take over Middle East oil, I guess it didn't work....since we are now paying over $4 for a gallon of gas. Think things through some time instead of just running your ignorant mouth. I'm your mom just had you as an excuse not to have sex with your Dad.... too bad, an abortion would have been great.
Yes teh later types look much different. What I love about Vulcan, apart from epic performance, and sleek look fro a big plane, is the fact that these were not aircraft built on a production line. Each plane was different because they were handbuilt in sheds on wooden jigs etc. I read about a team from Boeing visiting Avro and being amazed that such primitive industrial techniques could create the vulcan.
Lots of Mods after the crash, the Vulcan got it's distinctive wing shape, Believe it or not the RIO, Nav and F/O did NOT have ejection seats they sat below and behind the cockpit (and never did) only the Pilots got them, making it difficult if not impossible for the rear three to get out alive. Also in this case no Zero-Zero seats.. still have 558 flying though, a tremendous a/c
@usmctanks1 I don't like the idea of giving the pilots an ejection seat while not the rest of the crew! They should give the guy at the controls the most incentive to stay aloft as long as possible, lest he panic and bail out too soon, dooming the poor SOB's in the back. Maybe they were short of pilots compared to Nav's and RIO's? But to be fair, I suppose given the cockpit location a conventional bailout would be very dangerous for the pilots...they'd either hit the stabilizer, or an intake!
@P0PZILLA Yes, I'm sure that all pilots instantly become steely-eyed, panic-proof hotshots the moment they get their wings, right? Pilots may tend to be pretty good, but they're still human; some are better than others. Like the ones (two together!) who lost one of a C-5 Galaxy's engines, and then put the wrong engine to idle and crashed short of the runway, never even realizing that TWO of the engines showed no RPM's. Oops. If everyone can't punch out, the guy flying it shouldn't either.
Thanks for the archive footage. Seems really strange to see the prototype without the angle in the leading edge of the wing, a subtle design change that kind of changes the whole look.
Amazing feat because if you think about it today people are worried about getting Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT) from sitting in a cramped airliner for only 10 hours and these guys were cramped in a fighter bomber flying from UK to Sydney Australia. And obviously they look perfectly well after that. So it begs the question are we perhaps leading lifestyles today which are actually making us less fit and healthy than our counterparts from 35-40 years ago?
@toonmag50 hi sorry mate. Loads going on at the moment - got my Graduation today at university so bit of a mad house! And going away for a week Tomorrow! I'm not much of an officiando on the Victor and Valliant I'm afraid but I do know that the Vulcan was the aircraft of choice of the day because of its power and the payload it could carry. I remember seeing it taking off in the 1980s from RAF Sealand as it passed over our old house - very noisy and distinctive sound
@toonmag50 was a bad day! couldn't get to a dictionary!! Why bring Private Ryan into this?lol!! Didn't use nappies because well ...suppose half the people on here are American so just thought use that word instead! But nobody spells properly online or so i have been reliably informed!!! my appologies headmaster!! Do I get detention??
@toonmag50 ah feisty one you are! But my humble appologies to you Lord Vader but oh wise one Yoda has spoke the empire has fallen and I didn't use the force I used the diapers, no shitting you!! OB Wan assures Star Fleet that Yoda is older than 30 but younger than 40!
@MovieMad007 -you re a sad man-and this an Avro-Vulcan site-and you find it all amusing.-dear me
I could be rude but I actually feel sorry for you as you appear culturally schitzophrenic,with your stange ramblings "ok dumb question (yankee) ...bathroom (yankee) -do you deffecate or urinate into a bath? diapers (yankee tee hee) yuck (suburban yankee)
"ok dumb question time...how did he go to the bathroom??11,000 miles non stop!!!no time to change diapers yucky yuck yuck "
@toonmag50 ok time to be serious am 38 and from Cheshire actually m8. But no I am pretty intelligent actually - a Business degree and a trained software engineer. I have no intention of being an American (can't stand them). But, your apparent analysis of me are pretty wide of the mark, obviously someone who thinks he (she) is a psychologist or knows behaviour theory. Perception is reality and thats the real way you see me, but you don't actually know me so you have typed total rubbish m8
@toonmag50 No its a YouTube site which featues AV. Roe videos actually. The Company was originally called AV. Roe & Co. So I think I know a little bit more than you. The Vulcan was Britains first and only long range strategic Nuclear bomber. Built as part of Britain's defence from the perceived threats during the Cold War.
@MovieMad007 I thought the Valliant and Victor were originally built as long range bombers as well- but they were not as good as the Vulcan and so were found different roles
@MovieMad007 you" re over use of exclimation marks also implies immaturity and conformity,as they re overused in advertising at present -and you give all the signals of being a complete victim.-naturally
You are a victim in all ways, incredibly so ,as you obviously dont realise youself.
You demonstrate desperate (perceived) conformity = insecurity.
For humanity I wont say any more, you have finished me on this site
@toonmag50 well if you are going to "have a go" at someone for having a little laugh that just shows how sad your life has become doesn't it? But, at least if you are going to have a go at someone at least get your spelling into order. Look above "exclimation" spelt incorrectly its "exclamation mark". I am 38 if you actually bother to look on my channel you numbskull and if you cannot see from the daft way the post was written that it was jest, then there is little hope for the world!
@MovieMad007 lets have peace-you re Ok-it"s just I have had a few discussions with Brits whose knowledge about their own country is worrying and their vocab is tv yank. One example ,just before you,was a middle aged man-not a teenage twat ,who was thanking the US for fighting the japs alone in ww2, and as a result saving the UK from conflict with them. I explained that the UK did fight them-with over 600,000 combined service troops-he thought I was a troll.-sad is"nt it.
I saw this plane as it flew over New Plymouth, New Zealand, in 1956. It was one of the key moments of my childhood, triggering a fascination with aircraft I have to this day. The Vulcan was such an iconic symbol, an incredibly beautiful craft. Its crash was a huge shock. As for the ejector seats, it was standard that in bombers the pilots had ejector seats, while the remaining crew had to bail out through the hatch. Later bombers, such as the B-52, have ejector seats for all crew.
@MrXclio BTW, the US gave the UK BILLIONS in Lend Lease, INCLUDING "crappy old destroyers" that the Brits were desperate to have and turned the tide in the Battle of the Atlantic. If we gave the British planes that were poorer than what they had, it was that' was all we had, and they begged for them, and anything else. Let's see...P-40's, P-51's, US-built Merlins, M-4 tanks, millions of yards of textiles, foodstuffs, ships, explosive ingredients. Lend Lease was essential for the UK's survival.
@MrXclio The US "sat on it's ass" for 3 years because here, the leaders (technically) can't just decide to go to war when the public doesn't want war. Many of the US leaders, the President especially, were waiting for any excuse they could use to help Europe, but the majority of the people and many other politicians didn't want it. That's how our system worked, and should still work. That way, if the war is a BAD idea, a single foolish politician can't drag an unwilling public into it.
@BigDuke6ixx because back in the day ejector seat were new and no where near as good and safe as today..... even todays ejector seats are dangerous to use
Only the British engineers insisted in imbedding air-intakes & engines within the wings or wings & body... it is not any easy thing to do without suffering from "noise". It is much easier having it below or hanging from the wings or at least at some distinct position and not integrated.
I ignore why British chose so, but I just love the way they went for the difficult choice : it looks impressive
No, check your facts. The avro vulcan I saw go down was white, all-white. It was preparing for the chicago air show, and crashed just after take-off into a dump in glenview, illinois. It was a real big deal then. I immediately bought the model. Four lives lost. Lost power on take-off, I remember, went low, regained some power, climbed, lost all power, went down in the hills of the dump. Caught a wing on a hill and cartwheeled to destruction. So sorry. So sad. Peace.
@2012listo im fully aware of the chicago crash mate, i was just having a play on words and a little joke that you saw 'this' crash in illinois, when the vid was referring to the heathrow accident. things you do and say when you've had a few bevvies, eh? take it easy, and have a good one mate
Ok, I get it now. Wish I could enjoy a beer. Took milkthistle for my liver, and after only two weeks I lost all tolerance and desire for alcohol. I used to drink a couple 12 packs a day on the weekends. Moosehead, the best cooking beer on the planet, in my opinion. But thanks for clearing that up, I did assume you were just a young 'un who needed a short, sad history lesson. God bless those pilots, all pilots.
@2012listo Summer, 1978, Glenview, Illinois. My wife and her mother were
shopping near NAS Glenview, saw the Vulcan pass overhead as they were entering a store. Seconds later they heard the crash and rushed outside to see smoke and flames. You're right about the crash site, the Glenview dump near the Naval Air Station.
This happened because of a missunderstanding with air traffic control and the fact that the three rear crew did not have ejector seats,they were supposed to escape out of the hatch at the bottom.
@stretchmark8 the aircraft was jinxed, my father watched the same aircraft fly into wellington airport here in new zealand but almost caused a disaster when a tyre burst and the pilots only just managed to control the aircraft.
Well it's what happened to a US B52. You see tradbgon the US get things wrong you know too. One thing. Learn that no one cares about your opinion of it cause everyones heard about ur crap comments at VTS.
It's time to wake up to "chemtrails". Search for it. This is important. It's a secret program. I filmed it myself. Check "Dont talk about the weather". Wake others ASAP!!
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i flew a 1971 MD DC-9 aeroplane with pratt and whittney jets and it broke down on the way to Barbados from Botswana and we stopped still in the sky for 15 minutes! I thought then plane was about to fall out the sky but my friend Englebert came and towed me home in his 1975 Rolls Royce powered boing 737. WHAT A CLOSE SHAVE!!!
I also find it dumb that some of the passengers involved in the BA accident are trying to sue boeing saying that the 777 is not airworthy. The 777 has one of the best saftey records of any aircraft ever to fly. Boeing just makes the airframe and installs the engines that the buyer wants. They dont make the engines.
it does not matter if the fuel lines were made in the usa. they were made to the specs that rr asked. its not the fuel lines that are flawed, its the design of the rr trent 800. if it was the fuel lines themselfs that were the issue then why do ge engines not have this issue. im not trying to pick a fight, just stating the facts. rr needs to do a redesign.
RR engines SUCK. Case in point. look at the boeing 777 accident in london a few months back. Autopilot needed more power when the plane was on final. Fuel lines froze in the engines reducing the amount of power to just above flight idle. Plane crashed short of runway. RR engines on the plane. 777 with GE engines have not had this issue. Not the first time this has happend with RR engines.
ok ok. maybe not my left nut i would give up, but I live in the middle of Canada. where o where could I cgo without havving to travel a billion miles just to see one of those awsesome planes flying around? Yep. probably Britain. I was too young to travel to Goose Bay, labrador, to see them when they were stationed in Canada.
I DIDN'T GIVE UP A NUT BUT SAW ONE AT A US BASE AIR SHOW IN THE '60's. MASSIVE DELTA WING WAS IMPRESSIVE EVEN TODAY. DELTA WING WAS FOR SUPER-SONIC NUKE DELIVERY. THAT LARGE DELTA DROPS LIKE A ROCK WHEN RR ENGINES FAIL.
My grandad saw the test flights from woodford in the 50's.
It used to fly over my house when i was a kid in the early 80s, amazing to see it fly and was so happy to see it fly again at southport airshow last week!
I would advise not to sacrafice ones anatomy to see the plane fly,may i suggest you go to an airshow some time when one is in your area,for heaven sake man DONT CUT YOUR CLICKERS OFF lol
I witnessed the crash in Illinois circa '79 from my day camp. It took off from the Glenview Naval Airbase, made some on-off noises, then keeled and crashed into the dump near the GNAB. I had a hard time dealing with it. Bought and built the model, and that seemed to help. Beautiful bomber, that Avro-Vulcan.
I saw the Vulcan the other day, as it has been restored to flying now and has been going to airshows on the south coast. Also saw its 'last flight' in the early nineties at an airshow (i was young).
My Dad saw the Vulcan in this clip smash into the fence with it's landing gear at Wellington Airport, NZ. He reckons he and the rest of the crowd were running as fast as they could to get out of the way!
I was not landing, just doing a flyby. No wonder they crashed, must have been a big lag between throttle on and throwing all the weight back up in the air... and few pilots used to jets.
My cousin was in the RAF and when I was a kid he told me, if you join and end up on vulcans, make sure your the pilot, they are the ones who can get out when it goes wrong
@Utubegizmo007
Cool, what did he have to do, co pilot?,,
Kcon83 3 months ago
The crewman coming down the ladder at 0.40 is my father who was the Electronic Warfare Officer on this Vulcan (XH558)
UTubeGizmo007 3 months ago
look my video up
fabriziocrazy 4 months ago
Beavis ?
VegardMinde 5 months ago
Qué manera más absurda de despilfarrar petróleo, metales, energía y tiempo!
888yomismo 5 months ago
bevis lol
alexseh9 5 months ago
London airport?
dskxalive 5 months ago
Many decades ago I was fortunate to see a Vulcan bomber demonstrate some of its amazing flight characteristics at a Fairchild AFB airshow. This airframe has some incredible engineering, but the craft seems perilously underpowered.
tackN2Wind 5 months ago
@tackN2Wind Having worked on them and flown around the world with them let me tell you that they have as much power as they need. Ever seen one do an 'Arse Ender'? Very short take off and then straight up. Looks slow because of it's size.
MrWhelts 1 month ago
The 4 in the back would've known they were going to die...they had no ejector seats and would've heard the 2 pilots eject......terrible that seats were never fitted for all crew.
macbrack04 6 months ago
@macbrack04 Hopefully (though it makes no difference now) the realisation that death was imminent and death itself, would have been so close together, that their brains would have had no time to put all the events into a logical sequence. And then death itself would have probably brought that merciful blackness and release from pain anyway.
Factnotfictionpeople 5 months ago
@Factnotfictionpeople then you have no conception of the sequences of ejection and presume the brain is either slower or duller in such circumstances.....time stands still almost in these sorts of situations....the knowledge of death being imminent can seem to be there for ages even if it is 5 or 6 seconds....horrific....I know.
macbrack04 5 months ago
@macbrack04 See, you're wrong! I've had racing accidents, so know all about time slowing down. BUT - and its a big 'but', when death occurs within seconds there is no after-memory. So how can you know much about it? And as for you 'knowing' its horrific, how did you manage that? :-)
Factnotfictionpeople 5 months ago
@Factnotfictionpeople 1. How the fuck do you know death has no 'after memory' ? death is final !! 2. When you have been machine gunned at close quarters and barely survived but your companions did not I think I have a reasonable right to say I survived and understand closeness to death......OMAN ..Dhofar War 1979 Daily Mail June.. newshaedlines...and my 32 year memory.......grow up, experience life or SHUT the FUCK UP you DICKHEAD !!!!
macbrack04 5 months ago
@macbrack04 Want to try again - but make sense this time? You contradict yourself on point 1. And closeness to someone elses death doesn't count, does it. Or were you close to death yourself? As for Dhofar, what makes that special?
Factnotfictionpeople 5 months ago
@macbrack04 ....Pity your alleged bravery stop at civility. How disgraceful it is to read such language scrawled by an old fart.
TheLordMilton 5 months ago
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@macbrack04 ..
Pity your alleged bravery stoped at civility. How disgraceful it is to read such language scrawled by an old fart.
TheLordMilton 5 months ago
"At the very end of the flight" - of course. It never fails. Like the soldier that gets killed the day before he ends his tour and is going home from combat.
squizzoo 6 months ago
What an amazing BRITISH plane...
samjenks1234 6 months ago
@samjenks1234
Yep wonderful what the british made out of GERMAN technology : D
Ismalith 6 months ago
@Ismalith - Whittle submitted his first design in 1928 - Hans van Ohain didn't even start till 1935, 3 years after the patent was granted to Whittle.
The only serious 'adoption' was arround axial flow - perhaps if German application of their work had been more constructive the rest of the world might have been more inclined to let them develop it further?
ginganz13 6 months ago
The Vulcan was a seriously cool-looking plane
davidrodgersNJ 9 months ago
@davidrodgersNJ
yeh it was loud too
imgoodwithsilage 9 months ago
@davidrodgersNJ Pffft.. The SR-71 would disagree..
hwoods01 7 months ago
To reirednavy,If the uk had,nt invented the ejector seat you would,nt have them
albion2742 9 months ago
@albion2742 I've usually heard the Germans were the first to make real ejection seats, and I doubt that if any one country hadn't done it that it never would have happened. Some things are bound to come around sooner or later, out of neccessity. You think that if the Wright Bros. weren't the first to fly, it never would have happened? Don't be stupid.
justforever96 8 months ago
@justforever96
It was actually the Swiss, not the Germans. The Germans were the first to actively use them however.
EvilxMerlin 7 months ago
@EvilxMerlin Really? I'm not surprised. I sometimes suspect the Germans handiness with engineering comes from their close ancestry with the Swiss. =) Imagine the planes they could have been building in 1939 if they had the economy (and good reason) to support a large scale attempt at making a first-rate combat plane?
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96
Actually the I meant Swedish, not Swiss. Sorry. SAAB was messing around with ejection seats in very late 1939 and were deploying them in J-21s by 1943 en-masse. The Germans didn't start doing it until 1944 with the Uhu and He-162.
EvilxMerlin 7 months ago
@EvilxMerlin Ah, yes. Another country of clever people (I'm a fan of Volvo's myself). I'd read about the J21 before, but I didn't know they used ejection seats. A good example of "Necessity being the Mother of All Invention". They had to find a way to allow a pilot to bail-out safely from a pusher-prop plane without getting chopped up by the props, so they used an ejector seat. And I like how easily they converted the J21 to jet power after the war!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96
The Swedes, Fins and Danes all did remarkable things during the war... and yeah the J21 to 21R... few people know the Swedes powered the orginal J21 with a Swedish copy of the DB605.
EvilxMerlin 7 months ago
@EvilxMerlin I didn't realise it was a Swedish copy of the DB605, I thought they were DB605's that they had bought from the Germans
aspiringdrummer17 7 months ago
@aspiringdrummer17 That's what I always thought too, but these things can be kind of vague sometimes....sometimes "buying" an engine just means you buy license, maybe tooling to build it yourself. Although, it seems like given the limited number of planes they built, it might not have been worth the cost of setting up for engine production. Building engines takes more infrastructure than planes, which can be almost hand-built.
justforever96 6 months ago
@justforever96 True. That's why the Soviets had to buy French engines because they couldn't develop good enough ones of their own even though the aircraft that these engines powered were rather impresive. Same with the Italians, fantastic planes, mediocre engines
aspiringdrummer17 6 months ago
Please post videoclips that are worth watching and not clips of this terrible quality..
WimAlberts 10 months ago
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CutieiParisio81 10 months ago
Wasn't Butthead with Bevis?
Landotter1 10 months ago
@Landotter1 Sure he was...Butthead was the Navigator. It's not well known, but this round-the-world flight was never meant to happen. They got lost and decided to keep flying until they finally saw their air base again. Amazingly enough, through some coincidence, they just happened to make it around the world. They were quite surprised at the celebration when they finally landed from their routine hop, and found reporters and champagne waiting for them. They were hoping that no one had noticed!
justforever96 7 months ago
LOL @ 1:39. supersonic bomber. The Vulcan? Nooo don't think so!! Pretty fast but definitely not supersonic.
rastclart 10 months ago
@justicepartyuk hey a**hole, If 911 was an excuse to take over Middle East oil, I guess it didn't work....since we are now paying over $4 for a gallon of gas. Think things through some time instead of just running your ignorant mouth. I'm your mom just had you as an excuse not to have sex with your Dad.... too bad, an abortion would have been great.
jennababe07 10 months ago
@jennababe07 Actually, it was. Calculations have shown gas would cost 8$ a gallon if it wasn't for 9/11 revenge.
DrHooty911 7 months ago
Yes teh later types look much different. What I love about Vulcan, apart from epic performance, and sleek look fro a big plane, is the fact that these were not aircraft built on a production line. Each plane was different because they were handbuilt in sheds on wooden jigs etc. I read about a team from Boeing visiting Avro and being amazed that such primitive industrial techniques could create the vulcan.
gnark1ll1us 11 months ago 2
Lots of Mods after the crash, the Vulcan got it's distinctive wing shape, Believe it or not the RIO, Nav and F/O did NOT have ejection seats they sat below and behind the cockpit (and never did) only the Pilots got them, making it difficult if not impossible for the rear three to get out alive. Also in this case no Zero-Zero seats.. still have 558 flying though, a tremendous a/c
usmctanks1 11 months ago
@usmctanks1 I don't like the idea of giving the pilots an ejection seat while not the rest of the crew! They should give the guy at the controls the most incentive to stay aloft as long as possible, lest he panic and bail out too soon, dooming the poor SOB's in the back. Maybe they were short of pilots compared to Nav's and RIO's? But to be fair, I suppose given the cockpit location a conventional bailout would be very dangerous for the pilots...they'd either hit the stabilizer, or an intake!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96
Pilots do not need an "incentive" to do everything possible, for
their crew or plane in an emergency situation, thank you very much
P0PZILLA 7 months ago
@P0PZILLA Yes, I'm sure that all pilots instantly become steely-eyed, panic-proof hotshots the moment they get their wings, right? Pilots may tend to be pretty good, but they're still human; some are better than others. Like the ones (two together!) who lost one of a C-5 Galaxy's engines, and then put the wrong engine to idle and crashed short of the runway, never even realizing that TWO of the engines showed no RPM's. Oops. If everyone can't punch out, the guy flying it shouldn't either.
justforever96 6 months ago
HOLY CRAP! Magnum p.i.. sighting @ 2:37
rabidfishes 1 year ago 2
Bevis!!! YEAH YEAH HAHA
rabidfishes 1 year ago
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BenCBristol 1 year ago
Thanks for the archive footage. Seems really strange to see the prototype without the angle in the leading edge of the wing, a subtle design change that kind of changes the whole look.
Hanglands 1 year ago
0:34 BOMMACAMMOND
nealshireman 1 year ago
smth wrong with my ears..
0:07 what-what-what?? squad leader Beavis?? that would be sooo awesome!
"Major Woody" and "Private Parts" rocks!
U378U 1 year ago
9/11 was a excuse to take over Middle East oil.
justicepartyuk 1 year ago
@justicepartyuk Go get back in line for your government entitlements you useful idiot sheep. Bet you think life is suppose to be fair too don't ya?
txfirehawk 1 year ago
once its crashed in malta
aidendarylbf 1 year ago
Thanks for the video. beautiful airplane. Greetings, from Austin, Texas.
ryznaga 1 year ago
Why did the Brits hate their crew so much, no ejector seats, I'd have to take a pass on flying this thing.
TheRetirednavy92 1 year ago
Amazing feat because if you think about it today people are worried about getting Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT) from sitting in a cramped airliner for only 10 hours and these guys were cramped in a fighter bomber flying from UK to Sydney Australia. And obviously they look perfectly well after that. So it begs the question are we perhaps leading lifestyles today which are actually making us less fit and healthy than our counterparts from 35-40 years ago?
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 are you not speaking?
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 hi sorry mate. Loads going on at the moment - got my Graduation today at university so bit of a mad house! And going away for a week Tomorrow! I'm not much of an officiando on the Victor and Valliant I'm afraid but I do know that the Vulcan was the aircraft of choice of the day because of its power and the payload it could carry. I remember seeing it taking off in the 1980s from RAF Sealand as it passed over our old house - very noisy and distinctive sound
MovieMad007 1 year ago
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Soolinegp38 1 year ago
ok dumb question time....how did he go to the bathroom?? 11,000 miles non stop!!! no time to change daipers yucky yuck yuck yuck
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 jesus you re British and using the word "daipers" -I could nt even spell the word. Its Nappies, what is wrong with using this word?
keep watching saving private ryan-plastic yankee
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 was a bad day! couldn't get to a dictionary!! Why bring Private Ryan into this?lol!! Didn't use nappies because well ...suppose half the people on here are American so just thought use that word instead! But nobody spells properly online or so i have been reliably informed!!! my appologies headmaster!! Do I get detention??
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 "you cant spell nappies but can spell "daipers"".-clearly . Cultural imperialism finally conquors the under 30 generation .
never mind you can play your US win the world games on your itchy fanny 50 or what ever black box you prey too.
Be confident in you"re own language and spelling -dear me
or permantly be a plastic yank
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 ah feisty one you are! But my humble appologies to you Lord Vader but oh wise one Yoda has spoke the empire has fallen and I didn't use the force I used the diapers, no shitting you!! OB Wan assures Star Fleet that Yoda is older than 30 but younger than 40!
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 -you re a sad man-and this an Avro-Vulcan site-and you find it all amusing.-dear me
I could be rude but I actually feel sorry for you as you appear culturally schitzophrenic,with your stange ramblings "ok dumb question (yankee) ...bathroom (yankee) -do you deffecate or urinate into a bath? diapers (yankee tee hee) yuck (suburban yankee)
"ok dumb question time...how did he go to the bathroom??11,000 miles non stop!!!no time to change diapers yucky yuck yuck "
you re 18 & mancunian
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 ok time to be serious am 38 and from Cheshire actually m8. But no I am pretty intelligent actually - a Business degree and a trained software engineer. I have no intention of being an American (can't stand them). But, your apparent analysis of me are pretty wide of the mark, obviously someone who thinks he (she) is a psychologist or knows behaviour theory. Perception is reality and thats the real way you see me, but you don't actually know me so you have typed total rubbish m8
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@toonmag50 No its a YouTube site which featues AV. Roe videos actually. The Company was originally called AV. Roe & Co. So I think I know a little bit more than you. The Vulcan was Britains first and only long range strategic Nuclear bomber. Built as part of Britain's defence from the perceived threats during the Cold War.
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 I thought the Valliant and Victor were originally built as long range bombers as well- but they were not as good as the Vulcan and so were found different roles
toonmag50 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 you" re over use of exclimation marks also implies immaturity and conformity,as they re overused in advertising at present -and you give all the signals of being a complete victim.-naturally
You are a victim in all ways, incredibly so ,as you obviously dont realise youself.
You demonstrate desperate (perceived) conformity = insecurity.
For humanity I wont say any more, you have finished me on this site
Good evening
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 well if you are going to "have a go" at someone for having a little laugh that just shows how sad your life has become doesn't it? But, at least if you are going to have a go at someone at least get your spelling into order. Look above "exclimation" spelt incorrectly its "exclamation mark". I am 38 if you actually bother to look on my channel you numbskull and if you cannot see from the daft way the post was written that it was jest, then there is little hope for the world!
MovieMad007 1 year ago
@MovieMad007 lets have peace-you re Ok-it"s just I have had a few discussions with Brits whose knowledge about their own country is worrying and their vocab is tv yank. One example ,just before you,was a middle aged man-not a teenage twat ,who was thanking the US for fighting the japs alone in ww2, and as a result saving the UK from conflict with them. I explained that the UK did fight them-with over 600,000 combined service troops-he thought I was a troll.-sad is"nt it.
toonmag50 1 year ago
what went wrong ?
michaelwright999 1 year ago
I have been inside the cockpit of a Vulcan and there is no room to swing a moggie.
So why do the two pilots have ejector seats when the others don't.
How could they eject knowing full well that those left behind, haven't got a cat n hells chance of survival.
They should have stayed at the controls.
What did they say to the others before ejecting.
dingles615 1 year ago
@dingles615 oh shit! ;)
snowbird68 1 year ago
funny
SOWHATIMADEIT 1 year ago
skip to 1:52 is you wanna save time hahha
johocheerio 1 year ago
@joc69uk true and I didn´t c the 3rd best "british" plane. well then its ok ;)
PzAufklaerer12Btl 1 year ago
@joc69uk well, ask few crew members about that. ouuu damn sorry, they are dead. wondering why .........
PzAufklaerer12Btl 1 year ago
Thats what you get if you have Beavis flying the plane. "Hey Butthead, I'm gonna like, hehe he he, drop my load!
Best V bomber was the single prototype Valient low level interdictor. Most impresive machine, built for low level penetration.
SvenTviking 1 year ago
WOW 1080p
Postbus22 1 year ago
I saw this plane as it flew over New Plymouth, New Zealand, in 1956. It was one of the key moments of my childhood, triggering a fascination with aircraft I have to this day. The Vulcan was such an iconic symbol, an incredibly beautiful craft. Its crash was a huge shock. As for the ejector seats, it was standard that in bombers the pilots had ejector seats, while the remaining crew had to bail out through the hatch. Later bombers, such as the B-52, have ejector seats for all crew.
awuma 1 year ago
Beautiful airplane.
RealityCheck86 1 year ago
Front end looks like a Mazda 3. Always smiling.
3shacks1house 1 year ago
3...2...1... HERE WE GOOOOOO-OOOOHHHHHHHHH SHIT!!!!!
cavaliersfan08 1 year ago
is the delta winged plane stable? i heard sources that it wasn't stable in flight. sometimes, it would wobble..is this true?
KIBProductionz 1 year ago
unfortunately the vulcan was a bit of a death trap. Quite a few people died flying it. The RAF skimped on ejector seats.
telemetry9 1 year ago
thats pretty dick two guys ejected and the rest died? do you think thats bs?
musclerocker 1 year ago
Damn aside from the Spitfire the Brits made some UGLY freaking aircraft!
Mistermagoo77 1 year ago
@Mistermagoo77 better than any of your yank junk that always falls out of the sky.
MrXclio 7 months ago
@MrXclio
Like what? If it wasn't for them Yanks (and the Ruskies), you Tommies wouldn't even be...
EvilxMerlin 7 months ago
@EvilxMerlin sure it was! why did you sit on your ass for 3 three years? and Russia for two.
Hitler saved Britain twice, 1 for ordering the Luftwaffe to attack London giving RAF breathing space.
2 invading Russia, diverting troop strengh from the west.
by the way F15 E crashed in libya.
MrXclio 7 months ago
@MrXclio
Again, if it wasn't for them Yanks and Russians, you Tommies wouldn't even exist. Never mind the fact that Lend-Lease kept England going.
So lemme get this right, an F-15E crashes, the Vulcan crashes, yet its the Yank's stuff that just falls out of the sky?
Damn, some of you gits have issues with history...
EvilxMerlin 7 months ago
@EvilxMerlin you need to brush up on your historical facts. the equipment in lend lease was junk crappy old destroyers.
MrXclio 7 months ago
@MrXclio
Ahahahahahahahaha, you honestly think thats the only lend-lease the Yanks gave the Tommies??? As I said boy, stay in school, educate yourself.
EvilxMerlin 7 months ago
@EvilxMerlin i think you're the one who needs educating. stupid fat yank. look for operation sea lion.
you are wasting your time spreading your perverted version of history.
MrXclio 7 months ago
@MrXclio BTW, the US gave the UK BILLIONS in Lend Lease, INCLUDING "crappy old destroyers" that the Brits were desperate to have and turned the tide in the Battle of the Atlantic. If we gave the British planes that were poorer than what they had, it was that' was all we had, and they begged for them, and anything else. Let's see...P-40's, P-51's, US-built Merlins, M-4 tanks, millions of yards of textiles, foodstuffs, ships, explosive ingredients. Lend Lease was essential for the UK's survival.
justforever96 7 months ago
@MrXclio The US "sat on it's ass" for 3 years because here, the leaders (technically) can't just decide to go to war when the public doesn't want war. Many of the US leaders, the President especially, were waiting for any excuse they could use to help Europe, but the majority of the people and many other politicians didn't want it. That's how our system worked, and should still work. That way, if the war is a BAD idea, a single foolish politician can't drag an unwilling public into it.
justforever96 7 months ago
I don't see what was so amazing about the pilot and co-pilot ejecting safely.
BigDuke6ixx 1 year ago
@BigDuke6ixx because back in the day ejector seat were new and no where near as good and safe as today..... even todays ejector seats are dangerous to use
trumpet190 1 year ago
Only the British engineers insisted in imbedding air-intakes & engines within the wings or wings & body... it is not any easy thing to do without suffering from "noise". It is much easier having it below or hanging from the wings or at least at some distinct position and not integrated.
I ignore why British chose so, but I just love the way they went for the difficult choice : it looks impressive
papagamias 1 year ago
I heard they hadn't adjusted the landing height difference between Aust/NZ and England. Maybe I heard wrong, or maybe it was a later crash?
moyadapne 1 year ago
what are the white skinned ones for?
galloway6204 1 year ago
@galloway6204 They were the British nuclear bombers during the cold war.
AvonSearider54 1 year ago
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@galloway6204 They were the British nuclear bombers in the cold war.
AvonSearider54 1 year ago
@galloway6204 The white paint is to help reflect the flash from a nearby nuclear blast... IE the nuke the Vulcan just dropped.
SteveT3D 1 year ago
What caused the Vulcan thing to crash?
PistolPete2 1 year ago
One of these crashed in the Alter Road area of Detroit in 1958. I remember as a kid. Its also the plane hijacked in Thunderball, ttbomk.
sgtredbluered 1 year ago
Thanks! I used to live near Waddington and saw them all the time. My dad was in the RAF.
fripouille69 1 year ago
German technology
gunter099 1 year ago
Beavis? EPIC!
AdamJLemon 1 year ago
Wow! One from the vaults...
king7wood 1 year ago
@king7wood no kidding, the other aircraft present give you an idea of just how OLD this plane is in aviation terms too.
NikitasGuitars 1 year ago
I saw this crash in illinois in '78 or so.
2012listo 1 year ago
@2012listo you must have bloody good eyesight. it was london, england
8nowt 1 year ago 15
No, check your facts. The avro vulcan I saw go down was white, all-white. It was preparing for the chicago air show, and crashed just after take-off into a dump in glenview, illinois. It was a real big deal then. I immediately bought the model. Four lives lost. Lost power on take-off, I remember, went low, regained some power, climbed, lost all power, went down in the hills of the dump. Caught a wing on a hill and cartwheeled to destruction. So sorry. So sad. Peace.
2012listo 1 year ago
@2012listo im fully aware of the chicago crash mate, i was just having a play on words and a little joke that you saw 'this' crash in illinois, when the vid was referring to the heathrow accident. things you do and say when you've had a few bevvies, eh? take it easy, and have a good one mate
8nowt 1 year ago
Ok, I get it now. Wish I could enjoy a beer. Took milkthistle for my liver, and after only two weeks I lost all tolerance and desire for alcohol. I used to drink a couple 12 packs a day on the weekends. Moosehead, the best cooking beer on the planet, in my opinion. But thanks for clearing that up, I did assume you were just a young 'un who needed a short, sad history lesson. God bless those pilots, all pilots.
2012listo 1 year ago
@2012listo Summer, 1978, Glenview, Illinois. My wife and her mother were
shopping near NAS Glenview, saw the Vulcan pass overhead as they were entering a store. Seconds later they heard the crash and rushed outside to see smoke and flames. You're right about the crash site, the Glenview dump near the Naval Air Station.
MikeinSoCal 1 year ago
@8nowt rofllmfao
Cheifslappuho12 1 year ago
dont forget there was a crew that died wheb one caught fire on ground at scampton buried at nettlenam lincs near my mother
c130mover 1 year ago
@jg112393
well yes in the olden days
Thegoldandsilverboy7 1 year ago
Was all British news so dramatic, with the epic movie like scores of music? Would they have to write more each day? Lol
jg112393 2 years ago
This happened because of a missunderstanding with air traffic control and the fact that the three rear crew did not have ejector seats,they were supposed to escape out of the hatch at the bottom.
stretchmark8 2 years ago
@stretchmark8 the aircraft was jinxed, my father watched the same aircraft fly into wellington airport here in new zealand but almost caused a disaster when a tyre burst and the pilots only just managed to control the aircraft.
pramboy09 1 year ago
The Ppilots botch the approach and then eject safely. The crew dies. That's what I call leadership!
tradbgon 2 years ago
Well it's what happened to a US B52. You see tradbgon the US get things wrong you know too. One thing. Learn that no one cares about your opinion of it cause everyones heard about ur crap comments at VTS.
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BushBlewUpTwinTowers 2 years ago
@tradbgon Thats what I call shitty 1950's ejection system, actually.
Turminak 2 years ago
it was the communists!
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TrutherD1 2 years ago
They only gave ejection seats to the officers up front. The rest had to jump. Hard to do pancaked on the deck.
19elgato46 2 years ago
I used to fly vulcans
tintownbullshitter 2 years ago
why do i picture you on top of Mister spock?
freakyflow 2 years ago
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i flew a 1971 MD DC-9 aeroplane with pratt and whittney jets and it broke down on the way to Barbados from Botswana and we stopped still in the sky for 15 minutes! I thought then plane was about to fall out the sky but my friend Englebert came and towed me home in his 1975 Rolls Royce powered boing 737. WHAT A CLOSE SHAVE!!!
RasOrville 2 years ago
Can I have some of the drugs you are using?
pingpongpung 2 years ago
The frightening thing is he is not on drugs.
madisonelectronic 2 years ago 11
I also find it dumb that some of the passengers involved in the BA accident are trying to sue boeing saying that the 777 is not airworthy. The 777 has one of the best saftey records of any aircraft ever to fly. Boeing just makes the airframe and installs the engines that the buyer wants. They dont make the engines.
trooper1822 2 years ago
it does not matter if the fuel lines were made in the usa. they were made to the specs that rr asked. its not the fuel lines that are flawed, its the design of the rr trent 800. if it was the fuel lines themselfs that were the issue then why do ge engines not have this issue. im not trying to pick a fight, just stating the facts. rr needs to do a redesign.
trooper1822 2 years ago
RR engines SUCK. Case in point. look at the boeing 777 accident in london a few months back. Autopilot needed more power when the plane was on final. Fuel lines froze in the engines reducing the amount of power to just above flight idle. Plane crashed short of runway. RR engines on the plane. 777 with GE engines have not had this issue. Not the first time this has happend with RR engines.
trooper1822 2 years ago
Yeah until you find out the fuel lines that froze were actually made in USA and imported by Rolls royce.
Rolls Royce engines are by far the best.
If i had to go to battle and use strategic nuclear weapons on some one id want to do it in style riding in on a Roller.
ImTheMightyOne 2 years ago
Hm British engines in an American aircraft. I smell sour grapes...
Clunk61 2 years ago
Quite an insult to out Engines, isn't it?
mrrmancunian 2 years ago
@trooper1822 that the priciple behind all jet engines. they both suck AND blow, at the same time..... a bit like you really
8nowt 1 year ago
"4 men are dead" and the two in the cockpit ejected and survived.. Amazing they could fit 6 people in there.. RIP
bananacooler 2 years ago
squad leader Bevis......fucking great...what did maj. Butthead do during the flight
brian4480 2 years ago 39
@brian4480
Exactly right. My thinking too. What did Butthead do on that plane?
rennhazo88 1 year ago
@brian4480 crash the plane lol.
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
@brian4480
Maj. Butthead landed it:)
nevillebloodybartos 1 year ago
@brian4480 Major ButtHead was getting kicked in the nadz by Corporal Punishment
DancingSpiderman 1 year ago
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Hehehe eh-hehe check it out Butthead I'm holding my joystick, hehehe, in the cockpit! Boing!
Shut up Beavis!
0pinion8ted 2 years ago
ok ok. maybe not my left nut i would give up, but I live in the middle of Canada. where o where could I cgo without havving to travel a billion miles just to see one of those awsesome planes flying around? Yep. probably Britain. I was too young to travel to Goose Bay, labrador, to see them when they were stationed in Canada.
JFDhater 2 years ago
There's still one in Goose Bay, doesn't fly though.
tonybabb 2 years ago
@JFDhater I live in Toronto
I saw one fly in the Air Show at Can national Exhibition, many years ago
It was a beautiful sight.
Its not a bad air show either, I have also seen the B2 stealth bomber there!
timeonfilm 1 year ago
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@JFDhater @JFDhater I live in Toronto
I saw one fly in the Air Show at Can national Exhibition, many years ago
It was a beautiful sight.
Its not a bad air show either, I have also seen the B2 stealth bomber there!
timeonfilm 1 year ago
ゔぁるかんカッコイイ！！！
monoris2008 2 years ago
Squadron Leader Beavis? No wonder the sumbitch crashed.
1plaiboi 2 years ago
this birdy reminds me on hitlers secret weapons.
triangletrexx 2 years ago
@ 'TheCernol' quit SHOUTING - you dork
9thprotocol 2 years ago
I DIDN'T GIVE UP A NUT BUT SAW ONE AT A US BASE AIR SHOW IN THE '60's. MASSIVE DELTA WING WAS IMPRESSIVE EVEN TODAY. DELTA WING WAS FOR SUPER-SONIC NUKE DELIVERY. THAT LARGE DELTA DROPS LIKE A ROCK WHEN RR ENGINES FAIL.
TheCirnol 2 years ago
Thank you, CAPT. CAPS LOCK.
jonesy97 2 years ago 32
RR engines don't fail, dickwad
digireedoo 2 years ago
My grandad saw the test flights from woodford in the 50's.
It used to fly over my house when i was a kid in the early 80s, amazing to see it fly and was so happy to see it fly again at southport airshow last week!
breadmikey 2 years ago
I would give up my left nut to see one of those fly.
JFDhater 2 years ago
I would advise not to sacrafice ones anatomy to see the plane fly,may i suggest you go to an airshow some time when one is in your area,for heaven sake man DONT CUT YOUR CLICKERS OFF lol
qwuad61 2 years ago
I saw that big boy go over my head at the sunderland airshow. It was amazing!
G777GUN 2 years ago
I witnessed the crash in Illinois circa '79 from my day camp. It took off from the Glenview Naval Airbase, made some on-off noises, then keeled and crashed into the dump near the GNAB. I had a hard time dealing with it. Bought and built the model, and that seemed to help. Beautiful bomber, that Avro-Vulcan.
2012listo 2 years ago
i saw a vulcan fly in the netherlands when i was there over vacation simply amazing
pilotmaster92 2 years ago
Seen the vulcan today it was breathtaking !
absolutley amazing .. it is said it is the last flight now ... x
LiizBaybee 2 years ago
I saw the Vulcan the other day, as it has been restored to flying now and has been going to airshows on the south coast. Also saw its 'last flight' in the early nineties at an airshow (i was young).
winchuni22 2 years ago
My Dad saw the Vulcan in this clip smash into the fence with it's landing gear at Wellington Airport, NZ. He reckons he and the rest of the crowd were running as fast as they could to get out of the way!
I was not landing, just doing a flyby. No wonder they crashed, must have been a big lag between throttle on and throwing all the weight back up in the air... and few pilots used to jets.
pwollerman 2 years ago
Nobody gives a fuck about you mr. "thelolmafia" if you don't care, don't watch the video.
agentfazexx 2 years ago
just imagine sitting in the back seats and watching the two pilots eject and know there's nothing u can do :(
rotateleft 2 years ago
My cousin was in the RAF and when I was a kid he told me, if you join and end up on vulcans, make sure your the pilot, they are the ones who can get out when it goes wrong
stashyjon 2 years ago
That poor poor plane.
You almost feel the loss for the plane as well as the crew with these marvellous aircraft. :(
GenXCypher 2 years ago 6