Orca attack La Ernestina 2

[marinduren69]

amazing killer whale !

[SpartanForgeWorld300]

glad we arent on the menu lol

[kmkfiction2]

The Killer Whales rise, bright and unbound out of the water that contains them, like seed from earth: power: breathing upward in our own voice: glittering, into the pure diurnal sky.

[sharpenermaniacus]

Ya le dieron agua al niño?

[eltoto80]

Jorge como estas? la verdad que increible increible. Si tienes tiempo te pediria que me mandes un mail a totolamb@hotmail.com con informacion de donde es? en que fecha me aconsejarias ir y todo dato que me de la posibilidad de si no ver esa en vivo almenos tener alguna posibilidad de verlas cercas de la costa? Soy de Uruguay pero me hago el viajecito hasta ahi que vale la pena. Cosas asi no se ven en casi ningun lugar. Gracias saludos

[cesare406]

in your opinion the first week of March is a good time to view an orca attack to sea lions in Punta Norte??...because i'm going there from March 1st to March 5th...

[jorgecaze]

@cesare406 it is a little close to the start. I would recommend going at least a week later, but again, with wild animals anything can happen. Last season, the first attack if I remember well was on March 5 but there have been attacks in february too in other seasons. You can be there for 5 days at the end of march, and there is a storm or a strong North wind, and you might not see them at all. The weather conditions them too, so there is no guarantee with any dates. Of course, if you there---

[jorgecaze]

@cesare406 ....for 10 days,, your chances are much better because the weather does not stay the same for 20 days!!! I have seen an attack on a sea lion in October...Good luck!!!

[dpressed]

¿Durante que meses estas orcas pueden ser vistas? Me interesa mucho ver este evento. Gracias por el video.

[jorgecaze]

@dpressed para ver como cazan lobos, marzo y abril. despues aparecen de vez en cuando.

[MrAdry44]

@jorgecaze en que cordenadas es este lugar grasias?

[jorgecaze]

@MrAdry44 Punta Norte de la Peninsula de Valdez, provincia de Chubut, Argentina. Si habilitas fotos de Panoramio en google earth, veras fotos de estos ataques tambien y alli obtienes las coordenadas.

[Orcakid360]

What happened to Mels face? :)

[jorgecaze]

@Orcakid360 Mel has some sort of injury or disease when in sea lion season. there are several theories about the injury, which gets worse as he hunts, and is healed when he re-appears at the beginning of the next season.

[kruimels]

normaly an orca doesnt attack humans, or it must be very hungry.

[mrsotter19]

@kruimels An orca may attack a human if the person is too close to a calf, or feels threatened. Unlike sharks orcas have large brains that keep them from mistaking people for seals, or other prey. Most attacks have taken place where an orca is kept captive. I suppose I would go slightly mad if kept in a tiny place and make to perform for silly tourists!

[meganrocks107]

poor sea lion =(

[jorgecaze]

I see it as lucky orca who got to have lunch...

[eelroodri1]

@jorgecaze si, es la mejor manera de ver las cosas, si no te pones triste... lastima que era un bebe lo que come la orca

[jorgecaze]

@eelroodri1 no entiendo tu lastima....los depredadores en general comen cachorros, viejos o heridos....sobrevive el mas apto, el menos distraido y a veces porque no el que tiene mas suerte....si fuera un adulto no seria una lastima? vos estas hecho de otros seres vivos, incluso si sos vegetariano...asi es la naturaleza, organismos que comen otros organismos...

[unprete]

the nature....

[jorgecaze]

comentario estupido e ignorante. usuario bloqueado por idiota.

[tobboh]

Did the orca die?

[jorgecaze]

No.

[bzncokr]

I'm seriously curious about this coast. Is it possible to swim there? 'cause somehow I want to go in and near them.

[vidvyuer]

@bzncokr

There's another video at Youtube somewhere called Danzas con Orcas that you'd probably like. Seems this Argentinian Orca-ologist has made friends with some Orcas and gets in the water with them.

[carismares]

Esta estava com fome!

Feliz tomada de cena.

Parabéns!!!

[Terradreamer]

I was so stupid not to realise how larger sea mammals beach themselves before I watched this -_-

[Mohaxulon]

Si orcas aii en todo el mundo, es el mamifero mas distribuido del mundo, despues del hombre

[vondy002]

that are in place?

[jorgecaze]

provincia de Chubut, Argentina

[WildOrcas]

This is amazing..

[kmkfiction2]

Is it coincidence that the most remarkable behavioral traits are often some of the most efficient survival strategies? Perhaps bipedalism enabled the ability to wield weapons. A Killer Whale like Old Tom, more so than our fellow man, was amazed at that, as the harpoon descends and mutualism began.

Great videos. Thanks for sharing that and your thoughts.

[jorgecaze]

I suspect you already have an answer for this question.!!!

Thank you. It is always nice to share when the counterpart is worth the time

If you have the chance I recommend you sometime get on a plane and come to Argentina to see this through your own eyes!

[kmkfiction2]

I think it is analogous to certain chimp groups "fishing" for termites or monkeys "washing" food items. It is not a new food item in any instance, but the creative means to acquire and/or process the normal food source makes it all the more remarkable... to the point of being "culture" specific to a single gene pool.

[kmkfiction2]

Kin selection, sexual selection or likely both? I would imagine that is quite an impressive display by the stranding male (both of ability and "fitness") for any prospective mates in the immediate area.

[jorgecaze]

I think that the selection has to do with natural ability and not having a bad experience while learning (like humans learning to ride a horse)

[jorgecaze]

The male stranding is spectacular due to sheer size. However, he's old now, so he's very good at it and does not display unnecessary energy. The interesting part of the females is that they attack simultaneously so you are always turning to see where the next one is going to go for its catch. In addition, they are the ones who play "pup tennis" and let the catch loose in the water for their young to practice their hunting.

[kmkfiction2]

Interesting. Do both the stranding male and females take live pinnipeds back to the pod? Are the stranding males and females related or just the stranding females? Thanks.

[jorgecaze]

Yes. The male shares them with another individual of unknown gender, and it has been seen sharing with a group of females some time ago.

Relationships are still to be proven. NO dna tests have been done to the population. By observations we know which females are the mothers of the calves.

[kmkfiction2]

At some level, stranding is by its very nature a dangerous undertaking. Perhaps the observed predation patterns reflect the pod's aversion to taking on unnecessary risk? After all, if one can provide proficiently and consistently, why risk injury to calf-bearing members of the pod?

[jorgecaze]

It is not only dangerous but life threatening.A misscalculation might mean death. However, only one male strands while the others are mature females and young females.

[kmkfiction2]

That is absolutely some of the most amazing footage I have seen of predation. Thank you so much for posting that. Is it fair to say that the limited number of Killer Whales engaging in the predation strategy may be a function of social mores/hierarchy? I find it difficult to believe that it is "beyond" the Killer Whales whom present but do not partake, i.e., given the relative ease in certain instances.

[jorgecaze]

There is a group of approx. 16 orcas which visit the area avery year, and 7-8 have conquered the stranding technique. these are in charge of capturing the sea lions, and later sharing with the ones who don't. the females which strand train the young and soon there will be more stranders. It is believed that the adults which don't strand have probably suffered a stranding accident and are therefore scared of this technique.

[jorgecaze]

part 2: When attacking other marine mammals in the water, all of them are active.

I would definetly cut out the strategy possibility. I would say profficiency in the technique is the main factor.

as an example, Mel, a mature male is usually seen with Sol (yet to be determined whether it is a male, female or even its age) which does not strand but is getting bolder every year. Mel provides for Sol, and has sometimes provided for other specimens.

[jorgecaze]

part 3

JC is another adult male, which is seen now with Antu, a female. Antu strands and JC doesn't. Antu may be JC's mother, and it shares the catch with JC.

[Airinpinup]

Otro más?! Doblemente afortunado!!!

[jorgecaze]

Hola,

la temporada ideal es de marzo a mediados de abril.

saludos

[sagaremo]

olá amigo, gracias por postar este video, é espetacular, se me permite uma pergunta, em qual mes do ano, tomaste este video, pergunto pois desejo um dia ir até este lugar. um abraço, e obrigado.

[jorgecaze]

Hola,

la temporada ideal es de marzo a mediados de abril.

saludos

[danse888]

en donde tomaste este viedeo? que pais? gracias y felicitaciones! esta genial

[jorgecaze]

la herida es producto de la caza, ya que aparentemente se le rompe la piel de ambos lados de la boca, por la tension entre las aletas pectorales y la cabeza. En unos dias salgo para alla de nuevo. espero poder subir nuevos videos

[ordenadorwar]

mierrrda en donde es eso? dios como me gustaria ver un animal asi estubo increible tu video lastima por foca pero creo que es natural no se puede hacer nada XD que gran video un animal tan hermoso como ese dime en donde viste grabastes eso =O

[jorgecaze]

Hola. esto ocurre en Punta Norte, Peninsula Valdez, Patagonia, Argentina, generalmente entre marzo y abril que es cuando los cachorros de lobo marino empiezan a nadar. sin dudas, es un espectaculo indescriptible y un shock de adrenalina.

[sudlicht]

Gran video, eres muy afortunado de ver algo como esto. Al principio crei que era sangre del lobo, pero observando bien esta a la altura de su boca, entonces esa herida ¿es producto de la caza?. saludos y felicidades

[jorgecaze]

Unfortunately Bernard has not been seen for approximately 10 years so the chances are he went some where of died in the sea. (this is the most probable, although some specimens have re-appeared after a while, including Mel who spent 2 years away from Punta Norte).

[gwcolonial2010]

A quick question: what is that spot just between his right eye and the start of the white underbelly on his right side? How did it get there? It wasn't there during the early 90s when National Geographic did a video of Patagonian killers.

[jorgecaze]

we really are not sure. some say its a fungus, others an injury produced by the strechting of the area when stranding due to pressure from the pectoral fiins....it sort of heals when not hunting sea lions during the winter, or when it does it with less frequency.

[gwcolonial2010]

thank you mr. caze. on this clip it looks like it's bleeding. but that classic, ominous bent dorsal fin (which is even more evident on clips 1, 3, and 4) makes it unmistakable that it is indeed Big Mel! This is absolutely amazing footage, depicting the very best nature has to offer.

Just another question: Mel has an older brother Bernard who had some awesome kills in the National Geographic video, too; does he still hunt in La Ernestina or has something happened to him?

[jorgecaze]

but has not been documented grabbing a pup from the beach). Only 9 orcas hunt this way, and there are some pups in training, so we may see these numbers raising), but Mel is in the males age limit.

Only 9 orcas hunt this way, and there are some pups in training, so we may see these numbers raising), but Mel is in the males age limit.

[thedusthead]

oh shiTTTT!!!!!

[MorbidShit2007]

WHOLE SHIT THATS IT

[jorgecaze]

La teoria sobre la herida ha cambiado y ahora se afirma que es producto del stress sobre la piel al vararse para cazar los lobos, ya que durante el invierno se cura. En este video estaba sangrando, ya que estaba cazando en marea baja y tuvo que deslizarse mucho sobre el fondo. Unos dias despues ya no sangraba. Estoy por suerte viajando para alla en unos 20 dias, y luego tambien en febrero y abril, asi que espero tener nuevos videos y fotos. gracias

Jorge

[Orcaixa]

Que tal anda la herida de Mel? le veis sangrar asi con frecuencia?

espero que puedas subir mas videos si vuelves por alli, son impresionantes!

[fede82lomas]

impresionate

se escucha gatillar una camara, tenes alguna foto en alta resolucion linda como para pasarme?

gracias

[jorgecaze]

este es de este año. con la luz ideal. el 1 es del año pasado y es mi preferido ya que paso justo delante nuestro. Cada año paso mas dias en PN y si, no es barato, pero cuando te toca el privilegio de ver esto, se justifica!!

[magugu]

maravilloso , varios pesitos poder estar ahi no? sana envidia che, es algo impresionante!