My 1st DBZ Infinite World Vid - Dragon Mission; Goku vs Cell

[MsJuan54321]

diferen vortea

[anujan3]

hey how did u beeat hiim i need so much help on how to be fast on it reply me ASAP

[BlackwingFirestorm]

this is effin hard even on easy mode

[ZnCsp3cial]

Hello..

the coment of superdragonfist1 that was an old account lol

hoo..man you really need some practice..pretty most of iw..

btw you should charge the df cuz if you dont he will fall because of too highspeed

well i must not bad..

oh yeah i found a new connection

fkk cancel df..its prett hard

anyway 5/5 wanna see more from you^^ at iw

[kolikolikokoliko]

i found that connection a long time ago(if you mean b3) and after a while it becomes very easy man just try in maybe 2 days you'll be able to do it as much as you want

i found 1 connection that is harder than anything else but i'm saving that for my goku stylish vid

i was saving fkk+df too but you found out hehe

oh and yeah i suck in iw but i'm still getting started so..

thanks for the comment

btw you can get your account back i'll send you a vid that explains it but it will take 10-14 days

[TheSuperDragonFist1]

Hey man..sup?

looks like need some training in the art of infinite world..

its a cool start..but next would be cool some stylish stuff

[kolikolikokoliko]

yeah i'm more of a b3 guy lol

[underlordtico]

Not bad, a little bit too much abuse of kkkk- but gud. You need to do the fast connections and fast combos ^^ there are much better ones here than B3

[kolikolikokoliko]

yeah but i'm still getting used to the fact that i need to do the df slow with p(p+be i mean)

and xeah faster gameplay speed but b3 is still more chalenging than iw

thanks for the comment man

[underlordtico]

nah, b3 and iw are just as hard, iw is faster so all must be performed faster but there are no back attacks mid combo.

you just started playin it, and u also need to play with a diff character that aint goku :/ he gets boring quick

[kolikolikokoliko]

yeah i don't like this goku

so i'll find a char i like

and no man that was the 1st day i started playing and i did a 100hit combo

iw is just easier it has no hard connections what so ever the hardest is pppp+fpkk and that's easy

so man there aren't any hard combos man sry

[underlordtico]

thats an easy connection. airborne bkkp+fppp+ppkkkk, fppp+kkkk and fppp+fppp+fppp are much harder than those. You gotta stop playing with goku, you base everything on the easiest guy to play as in Budokai :/ and you need to try the actual hard connections in this game, not the ones shared with B3

DF cancelling is also a little harder with g+e and like i said, use new characters

[underlordtico]

super 17 and great saiyaman would be good for you to play as

[kolikolikokoliko]

sry man but all those are easy i tried most of them and i don't just play goku i play everyone only i haven't uploaded anything cause i have most combo ideas for goku cause he's been developed the most and has the most hard connections

i as i already said will upload an other characters combo vid after my goku vid but this might take a while cause school is starting

i tried iw df and it's also easy i had probs with e+g only at the beggining now it's easy

i'm gonna write 1 more comment

[kolikolikokoliko]

listen you have to try hard connections in b3 like pppfp+kkkk of pppfp+kbkp(charged)+df

that's a lot harder than anything in iw

also gohan is a lot harder char in b3 than in iw cause you need a faster cancel than usual for him in b3

you haven't even ever troed this and you say that tgose in iw are harder i mean you need at liest a bit of evidence

and the fact that you can chain be to anything makes the game a cheat for chars like goku gohan teen gohan bardock goku gt who can juggle with be

[underlordtico]

I have already done those connections and is funny cus I was just talking to someone about b3. Gohan is not hard at all B3 or needs a faster cancel, thats only an illusion. If you cancel fast you cancel fast, if you dont you don't. What you are referring to is how you can connect SDS and SDF with anything while in B3 your only limited to a certain way.

It doesnt make the game more easy, only more flexible. If you want to make easy on yourself then abuse the easiest connection. 1st comment

[underlordtico]

now with that said, your comment was not aimed at all at hard connections you only referred to connecting super moves like SDS, SDF, HP etc which have nothing to do with hard connections. The equivalent of pppfp kbk in iw is fppp kkkk they are just as easy. The hardest connection for goku in each game is fully charged kbkpp in b3 and bkkp kkkk in iw.

If you cant to try real hard connections like i keep saying use characters like super 17, great saiyaman or videl as gogeta mentioned before.

[underlordtico]

3rd and last comment

Is funny how you said I didn't know or had tried things like that in B3. I played b3 and learned from Gogeta's videos and did what I had to do, when Iw came around I moved on to the next best thing.

B3 is a gud game like i keep saying, but w/o actual knowledge and gameplay with various characters and digging deeper into IW other than Goku you can't have a good understanding of the game at all.

So finally new harder characters & new harder connections with those characters

[kolikolikokoliko]

damn man how can you say that fppp+kkkk in iw is as easy as pppfp+kkkk or kbkp

it's not even remotly as hard man not even close and if you tried them i don't know how you could be saying that

ask anyone gogeta saiyanjin kajtheking znc any pro and he'll say that b3 is harder

and not flexible easy cause if you juggle like fkpppk into let's say pp in b3 you can't resume doing df or something and the combo is coming to and end just cause of the low juggle but in iw

comment will be continued XD

[kolikolikokoliko]

but in iw you can screw up and use any chain you want and not think of the combo you can just spam diffrent chains with an be at the end to prolongue the combo

and you're talking about gohan

i don't even care if he needs a faster cancel but the fact is gohan in b3 needs someting to raise the juggle cause most of them are low and in iw you can actually juggle with a stun man; a stun!!!

you can do ppppp+be and it's easy

or cells pkp that's just a laugh

anyone can do that one

it's a fact man

[underlordtico]

idk what you mean since I use SDS kkkk, fp, or pppp either or it dont matter to me since I can do them all. Like I keep saying man, you keep mentioning easy connections only and you're not reading my posts right. I said if someone chooses to use easy connections thats up to them but that does not mean there are no hard connections. I play with the hard connections and I tell you to try new characters and those hard connections. Cell's fppkkk is a joke in b3 while in iw fpkkk is hard

[underlordtico]

continued....

but again that doesn't mean b3 cell is easy, just means that particular connection is easier in B3. I'm not trying to single out B3 on one thing like you are with IW and that's what we disagree on.

I know the hard connections in both games, i play with almost all the characters and there are much harder to play characters than Goku as far as IW is concerned. LIke i keep saying, try the game and actually play with diff characters and do the hard things not the easy.

[underlordtico]

continued 2...

just because you can do something the easy way doesn't mean the game is easy, what defines the player is being able to play using the hard stuff and still win. Thats what I want you to do for IW which it seems you have already done for B3

for example, instead of doing fkpppk in B3 now use fpkk in IW which is just as gud, as fast, and effective. And truly, idk what hard connections is anymore, I've gotten to the point in my gameplay that I consider everything possible

[kolikolikokoliko]

i tried the fpkk infinite and it's easy i actually made the opponent fall cause he was too high

you play fast and very stylish like a true pro and i just can't understand how you can say that iw and b3 are the same difficulty

and yes what you achieved in iw i too have achieved in b3 that i believe a lot of things to be achievable

however in b3 there are a lot more cray stuff in my mind that i'll probably never do but know it's possible

as i said ask anyone they will tell you iw is easier

[kolikolikokoliko]

1st of all to clear something up

fpkkk in iw is not an infinite(it needs +bpk) while fppkkk is and that's not even the same chain

b3 has a p more

and as i said i play with other chars just don't upload cause goku is more developed

you say iw has harder chars than goku

well in b3 goku has 3 hardest connections

in iw there are no hard connections; NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!tell me those hard connections you play with and i'll try them and tell you if they are really hard than we'll talk.

[underlordtico]

Well man, sadly to say fpkkk for cell is an infinite, just a very hard one that must be instantaneous to keep going. Also on Goku, everyone knows everything there is to know about him in B3, I don't play with developed characters, I try to develop them.

IW is very flexible and you will find there are many connections that are hard and only possible in IW because of this flexibility but is not up to me to tell you that, you have to find out yourself.

[underlordtico]

I just gotta say I thought you were smarter than this and it sounds like you have gotten a little bit too full of yourself which is always a bad thing.

I can't tell you how good the game is even though I been playing it since release because you're not open to another's opinion and are too stubborn to listen. You have to find out yourself.

So to avoid any argument, this is my last reply to you.

[underlordtico]

P.S. I consider both games equal

[kolikolikokoliko]

ok man this is obviously something very personal to you cause you seem to be annoyed by something

you started saying things like i thought you were smarter and that i'm full of myself

so just cause i have an opinion that is diffrent than yours that means i'm full of myself

"full of yourself" means that someone thinks he is better than he truly is and is boating about it

[underlordtico]

is funny, i hadn't seen this. I dont think im gud at all, Im always trying to get better. I just dont believe is right for anyone to judge something they never even tried or have played extensively based on anyone else's opinion. Thats what I call biased and thats what I mean by being full of yourself.

You have to play something first to say something about it, thats what my whole argument is about and I thought it'd be pretty simple to see. But you just tell me what you heard others say

[underlordtico]

I want you to play an experience for yourself b4 you have something good or bad to say of the game. I hate things in IW too, but none of them make it less of a game than the previous Budokai series. Closest I've gotten to not liking a Budokai game is BL which I played alot but the gameplay was too slow and too defensively broken for my taste.

But i played the game so I can say that about it. Thats what I expect from you, not a mind preset that's telling you the game is easy.

[kolikolikokoliko]

you seem to think that when i say b3 is harder than iw that i am somehow degrating your vids or making them less valuable

that is in no way true man

in fact i think you're among the fastest and best players in the world in both games

but here i think you let your personal fav game between the 2 cloud your judgment man

and than in frustation cause you can't convince me you started saying things like i'm full of myself

[kolikolikokoliko]

saiyanjin2 gogetassj4666 and kajtheking(3 best players in the world in my opinion) feel the same way i do

so tell me are they full of themselves??

listen you know sooooo much more than me in iw cause i just started but i still think i know enough about cancel to judge which things are harder and which are easier

i believe i have that much credit

so you're right i still need to play more of iw but i honestly doubt i will change my opinion

that's all so thank you and good night

[underlordtico]

actually if u talked to them they share my same opinion as far as kaj and gogeta is concerned, i dont talk to s2 much. I talk to gogeta everyday on msn and we agree on everything, kaj acknowledges there are alot of connections only possible in iw because of how flexible the game and some he never seen he just prefers b3. I can't speak for s2 though.

knowing how to cancel doesn't rly give you any knowledge. Only thing that gives sum1 knowledge is actually playing it. You haven't done that.

[kolikolikokoliko]

in znc's vid 29 kkkk kajtheking says that kkkk is easier on iw and znc said is feels same to him and than kaj said that everything in iw is easier mna

i really don't know about gogeta cause i saw him say on some vids that he thinks b3 is more pro (harder)

but that doesn't even matter i was just naming examples

and man you say knowing cancel doesn't give you any knowlege only playing but how can you cancel without playing damn

[underlordtico]

that doesn't even make any sense, you just contradicted yourself. Knowing how to cancel means nothing, only knowing how to cancel all the combos in a game and being able to innovate and making it harder and more stylish is what matters.

If what you say is true anyone who can cancel has the right to say w/e they like and make it true. Too many people can cancel, only some can do it in an extensive effective way.

[underlordtico]

and also only thing kaj refers to is that iw doesnt have a k+g shortcut which keeps you from messing up kkkk in iw. But it has a e+g that can cause you to mess up SDF

[kolikolikokoliko]

no ask him

[underlordtico]

and really you need to stop saying what others have said b4, only facts are what count. You put down a game you never played and have barely any experience on while repeating what others say.

I dont say anything bad of B3 or SBAR because I have nothing bad to say, a good game is a good game and w/e I say I can say because I have already played the games enough. W/o your own knowledge you're really not entitled to an opinion that won't count

[kolikolikokoliko]

i tried today every connection you saidabove and it's easy fppp+fppp bkkp+fppp,fppp+kkkk;they're easy man

man we started canceling about the same time but in these comments i feel you think you're a senior to me or something.you said playing pro and stylish is what matters but man you can't play pro without a cancel and you said cancel doesn't matter in achieving knowlege only through pro gameplay but if cancl doesn't metter than this whole theory burns in flames;so man you contradicted yoursel

[underlordtico]

3rd comment

i didnt contradict myself at all. I said a statement, you replied to that statement by using the exact same words just twisting them around.

Like i said b4, many people can cancel, but only some cancel and innovate with it. Example i'm quite sure I can cancel just aswell as gogeta, but when it comes to innovation and making new connections and such I can't keep up. Victoriano is one of those players who just cancels basic things but plays pro.

cancelling & pro gameplay r different

[underlordtico]

4th comment

i don't think im superior to anyone, im just following basic common knowledge. W/o experience on something you really can't argue as if you know all there is to know.

and idk how long I been cancelling, it was in B3 at least a year b4 IW came out

[underlordtico]

im tired lol, idk what to say anymore. I just want you to find out how gud the game is yourself. Hopefully you do.

hopefully we're good -.- this has been intense

[kolikolikokoliko]

me too and of course we're good this was just a discussion on which we both have an opinion which happens to be diffrent

and yeah it was intense lol

and man i have nothing against iw i think the game is fantastic and i never said anything against it

[xFierceDeityLinkx]

wo wo wo woah wait.. lemmi get this right, you dont know how too teleport without hiting. but you're telling tico he needs too to harder combos in b3? rofl...

[kolikolikokoliko]

yes cause i just got the game

[xFierceDeityLinkx]

Well then presonal proof youre in no place too tell him anything.

[kingmalik1989]

Great vid man yu need 2 upload more

[kolikolikokoliko]

thanks i will

[GameZockerXXL]

not bad man

hope u gonna make more vids of infinite world

[kolikolikokoliko]

yeah sure

it's actually a lot more fun than i thought

it's a really really fun game

[Mafiaboss58]

your pretty good for your first time yeah i had the same bitch ass problem when i first played this game, its back+X button... looking forward to seeing new vids from you playin this game

[kolikolikokoliko]

sure thanks man

[Saiyanjin2]

B+X simply... and the hit not goes.

[kolikolikokoliko]

thanks for the advice

[SsjGohanN]

nice fight man:D

i reaqlly like it... 5/5 + fav :D

[kolikolikokoliko]

tanks

[realtactikz]

to teleport without hiting press back+X instead of forward+X depending on th eside u are:) i also got that problem but i found out playing against a friend:P

[kolikolikokoliko]

thanks man