i became shoguns fan after this fight.i am a fan of both.but i like shogun a little more.unfortunately he is not serious after his fight with machida.he let that bone jones get his title.but maybe its because of his knee injury.i hope real shogun will beat jones after this.
@khairuleven He didn't let Jones get the the title he had no choice... Jones looked like he was fighting a little girl ... so there is zero chance of him ever getting the title back he is done.
Shogun was immense in this fight but Machida's defence made shogun unable to get at his head, although Machida controlled the fight using this defence the judges should've seen that Machida would tire out from all the body blows eventually. Shogun's just unstoppable. Machida was immovable. I think hit for hit and stylistically shogun won though.
Shogun is fuckin' overrated and he didn't win shit. Even his actual win against Machida was just a fluke. With people putting ideas into Machida's head that he lost the first time it doesn't surprise me he felt immense pressure fighting Shogun the hasbeen (or never was in my opinion) which led to his loss. Shogun just got a lucky hit in the second fight.
And Machida clearly won the first fight. Watch it without jumping on the overrated Shogun bandwagon and you'll see who won the fight.
Na boa até um tempo eu admirava o Shogun, mas vejo que o Lyoto é muito melhor. Shogun deu sorte na 2º luta. E na moral Lyoto vai arrebentar aquele mala do Jones. Ele vai ver o que lutador de verdade, e não lutador de Video Game.
I dont follow these fighters nor do I know much of them, but, I watched the fight and for me it was SOMEWHAT a call for Machida winning it. I think Rua did loose.
@vocaltalent1 Why did Rua lose? I don't understand how people think so, especially after most people agreed Forrest beat Rampage basically the same way
Dana white said that he gave round 2-3 to Machida and 4-5 to Rua and then round 1 could of been anyone's. If round one was not that decisive why is everyone crying about Shogun.
the reason Lyoto won was because it was close. in a decision to become CHAMPION, it has to be pretty decisive. thats why Lyoto won, it was so close and he was champ... i would have to say that Shogun won though
Shogun whooped lyoto's ass. In all honesty i would say lyoto won only 1 round. Shogun was constantly battering lyoto and the little fucker couldnt walk properly after. Shogun would have finished the match but his corner said he was winning every round (which is the truth). You fucken machida fags need to watch some pride and it will be clear who the greater fighter is. Machida karate.........what a fucken joke.
so in conclusion. if you like a technical fight. with accuracy and timed combinations. lyoto was a clear winner. if you like to see a fighter just try to kick and punch every second of the fight. then shogun won. but its MMA both are strong factors.
so the fight comes down to 2 things at this point. Octagon control, and overall striking. the judges are also brought in from other forms of MMA. where the scoring is slightly different. lyoto was a much more effective fighter. but shogun went nutz and threw everything he seen. the judges must of liked the technical side rather then the crazy brutal side.
actually if you would all watch it in slow motion. lyoto made some wicked counters that you miss easily at normal play speed. hes a fast mother F**** and second lyoto only missed like 10 strike he threw the whole fight. shogun missed 10 times a minute, that falls big time in effetiveness of striking witch is 1 of the 4 main things they look for. lyoto also landed more in the clinch witch was another sight to see considering shogun is a natural muay tai fighter.
hey ..it was crystal clear that Shogun won the fight and the judges were only biased. sucks that UFC would let this happen. There's no more credibility in what they do
@bjapan96 Shogun tends to tire himself out a bit so you're right. Machida's very defensive so he'd last longer but I don't think he's got as much of a chance of victory as shogun.
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If you are hitting your opponent where they are supposed to be hit in the head, then you will most likely not cut him but still do devastating damage. Rua didn't have Lyoto's punching tech.
Anyone else notice the more mature mindset of the Lyoto supporters? If you are going to say Lyoto lost, then make a valid point and either way there will be a rematch. Lyoto has alot more in his arsenal and has Anderson fucking Silva to train with! Besides, even a Shogun can't defeat a samurai dragon...lol.
Wake up people. Machida came into this fight with his regular game. Shogun came with leg kicks. The leg kicks were good, but not good enough. Shogun should have put Machida on his back in the 5th round. He didn't. This would have,should have, could have won him the fight. In a 6th round Shogun might have won. Machida hit Shogun with more head strikes, knees, mid and upper body kicks. Without the leg kicks Shogan came with nothing. He simply lost by a narrow margin. The fight was not fixed.
Dude you must be joking. A takedown in the 5th??? Shogun won the fifth round without question! The problem is the 10point must system for rounds. I can maybe see the judges giving the first 3 rounds to Machida, but they were only just. While Shogun clearly won the last two rounds and definitely won the fight. Btw it seems as though leg kicks were good enough for the judges to give the decision to Forrest over Rampage, whats up w/ that ultra???
OK you said it. The first 3 rounds to Machida. Shogun had almost nothing but leg kicks. He didn't come with enough to be the champ. Machida should have been taken out in the 5th. Shogun hurt Machidas legs and then just stopped. Nothing else he did impressed me. Where was takedown? How about a punch that would make Machida stumble? Where was anything but leg kicks? Machida is still the champ. I think so and the judges think so.
where u a fuckin judge or something or u didnt even watch the fight????? stfu and stop defending the fighter you love, it was obvious, u look like an idiot trieng to defend the false decesion
ultra357, you have said almost everything I was about to say. Besides, you ever KO someone with a leg kick to the legs. Now, if it were a street fight then the groin, knee, etc.. would have been a factor and Lyoto did take a few to his femoral nerve but the head shots and many misses on Rua's part won it for Lyoto. Further, Lyoto would have been even better if it where a street fight for obvious reasons.
Lyoto did more damage to Rua's body in particular with knees.I am a brown belt in TKD and though we aren't allowed to target the legs sadly leg damage is still the most common injury. This very day I free sparred and took a decent back kick to the side of my right thigh (and delivered one at the same time). It did hurt my mobility some, but I still had my wits about me and could move and even kick.You forget the head shots and body shots Rua took and how often Rua got staggered multiple times.
we will never know if he did "more" damage to the body, its speculation. what we do know is Rua landed more hits which even the judges conceded, in terms of more head shots - just look at Machidas face and tell me "who did more damage" in terms of your TKDkick - Nothing compared to taking multiple shots to the leg in a match. taking nothing away from TKD but please spar where leg kicks are allowed for a couple rounds and then come back and talk to me until then you have no argument
How about no? I guess Shogun's footprint engraved onto Machida's torso along with the cuts bruises and welts not only on his torso but all over his body wasn't legit while Shogun looked fresh as a daisy.
Clearly you haven't. I don't really care about your biased views, I am only replying to you bboyche because others just might be stupid enough to believe you. If it wasn't for the rounds and rules Rua would have died in a street fight anyway. Which do you think is more debilitating, kicks to your thigh or punches to the face? The answer: it depends. Lyoto won the first 3 rounds at least and has Anderson Silva to train with and has beaten Thiago Silva=a great Maui Thai fighter so there.
all you guys wanting to see a rematch are idiots....thats exactly wtf dana whites corrupt ass wants.....he fixed this fucking fight so he can make more money on the next one...WELCOME TO THE NEW UFC aka WWF....dana is a bitch and deserves to get his ass kicked for robbing shogun and the fans who pay good money to see these fights. TITO PLEASE KICK DANAS ASS
out all the fuckin comments yours makes the most sense bro... seriuously thats the 1st sign that ufc is fucking becoming corrupt, if u cant fake the fight fake the scores
i've been watching UFC since i was 14 and im 21 now after seeing this fight i might just stop supporting and stop watching UFC. WHAT A GOD DAMM DISGRACE. how can you rob a grown man on live tv and get away with it. and I'm a machida fan. WTF man
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z00y0rker87 2 months ago
I fucking hate this song.
paulbalison 4 months ago
i became shoguns fan after this fight.i am a fan of both.but i like shogun a little more.unfortunately he is not serious after his fight with machida.he let that bone jones get his title.but maybe its because of his knee injury.i hope real shogun will beat jones after this.
khairuleven 5 months ago
@khairuleven He didn't let Jones get the the title he had no choice... Jones looked like he was fighting a little girl ... so there is zero chance of him ever getting the title back he is done.
MrShadows86 3 months ago
Shogun was immense in this fight but Machida's defence made shogun unable to get at his head, although Machida controlled the fight using this defence the judges should've seen that Machida would tire out from all the body blows eventually. Shogun's just unstoppable. Machida was immovable. I think hit for hit and stylistically shogun won though.
MrJudzey 5 months ago
Shogun is fuckin' overrated and he didn't win shit. Even his actual win against Machida was just a fluke. With people putting ideas into Machida's head that he lost the first time it doesn't surprise me he felt immense pressure fighting Shogun the hasbeen (or never was in my opinion) which led to his loss. Shogun just got a lucky hit in the second fight.
And Machida clearly won the first fight. Watch it without jumping on the overrated Shogun bandwagon and you'll see who won the fight.
whostolecarlosrox 9 months ago
Na boa até um tempo eu admirava o Shogun, mas vejo que o Lyoto é muito melhor. Shogun deu sorte na 2º luta. E na moral Lyoto vai arrebentar aquele mala do Jones. Ele vai ver o que lutador de verdade, e não lutador de Video Game.
Vamos lá Lyoto, Guarulhos está com você.
PEDROTBRAGA 9 months ago
ill end it who won the rematch
ufc20mma 11 months ago
shit
wacaboia 1 year ago
if my dad made his own kind of karate i bet he'd give me a black belt in it too :P
KJD120690 1 year ago
I dont follow these fighters nor do I know much of them, but, I watched the fight and for me it was SOMEWHAT a call for Machida winning it. I think Rua did loose.
vocaltalent1 1 year ago
@vocaltalent1 Why did Rua lose? I don't understand how people think so, especially after most people agreed Forrest beat Rampage basically the same way
maxpower789z 1 year ago
@vocaltalent1 lose
ufc20mma 11 months ago
@ufc20mma you're right. Things happen, like OSU winning the Tournament. Later.
vocaltalent1 11 months ago
This is the most Idiotic song there is.Only savage Immigrants from Europe like this crap
nancyhoralia 1 year ago
@nancyhoralia I agree with you I'm tired of hearing this stupid song on a lot of videos!
rompeligas2234 1 year ago
@nancyhoralia i like it mmmmk.
MrHutchmister 1 year ago
@nancyhoralia carwin seems to like it and he a yank
ufc20mma 11 months ago
Was I the only one who shed a tear for Machida? Am I taking this way too seriously?
AthleticsJunkie 1 year ago
Dana white said that he gave round 2-3 to Machida and 4-5 to Rua and then round 1 could of been anyone's. If round one was not that decisive why is everyone crying about Shogun.
arefboombaye 1 year ago
if so, why did they give it to Forrest over rampage?
pullitback 1 year ago
@pullitback because the fight with Rampage was a CLEAR decision,
there's no way Rampage won that one. that was unanimous. thats how these decisions work dude?
likeability18 1 year ago
the reason Lyoto won was because it was close. in a decision to become CHAMPION, it has to be pretty decisive. thats why Lyoto won, it was so close and he was champ... i would have to say that Shogun won though
likeability18 1 year ago
cant wait 4 the rematch so shogun can kick the shit outta him again
scarface43744 2 years ago
all this bull, shogun clearly won whup whup!!!! get along little doggy get along.
gjersy 2 years ago
Shogun whooped lyoto's ass. In all honesty i would say lyoto won only 1 round. Shogun was constantly battering lyoto and the little fucker couldnt walk properly after. Shogun would have finished the match but his corner said he was winning every round (which is the truth). You fucken machida fags need to watch some pride and it will be clear who the greater fighter is. Machida karate.........what a fucken joke.
gunslinger97658 2 years ago
so in conclusion. if you like a technical fight. with accuracy and timed combinations. lyoto was a clear winner. if you like to see a fighter just try to kick and punch every second of the fight. then shogun won. but its MMA both are strong factors.
Wililu75 2 years ago
so the fight comes down to 2 things at this point. Octagon control, and overall striking. the judges are also brought in from other forms of MMA. where the scoring is slightly different. lyoto was a much more effective fighter. but shogun went nutz and threw everything he seen. the judges must of liked the technical side rather then the crazy brutal side.
Wililu75 2 years ago
actually if you would all watch it in slow motion. lyoto made some wicked counters that you miss easily at normal play speed. hes a fast mother F**** and second lyoto only missed like 10 strike he threw the whole fight. shogun missed 10 times a minute, that falls big time in effetiveness of striking witch is 1 of the 4 main things they look for. lyoto also landed more in the clinch witch was another sight to see considering shogun is a natural muay tai fighter.
Wililu75 2 years ago
hey ..it was crystal clear that Shogun won the fight and the judges were only biased. sucks that UFC would let this happen. There's no more credibility in what they do
xkalantae 2 years ago
when did shogun rua beat lyoto machida? retard
youomraj 2 years ago
UFC 104. Look it up idiot.
Shogun beat Lyoto Machida but Lyoto "won" (notice the quotation marks) technically.
But Lyoto was nowhere near close to beating Shogun.
RedShogun13 2 years ago
shogun lost
Exgangmember 2 years ago
Sure he "lost". But he beat Lyoto Machida. The faster you Machida nuthuggers accept that the better off you'll be.
RedShogun13 2 years ago 3
@RedShogun13 i wonder who would last longer with jones
no disrespect against shogun cuz hes beast but i think lyoto will still last longer
bjapan96 9 months ago
@bjapan96 Shogun tends to tire himself out a bit so you're right. Machida's very defensive so he'd last longer but I don't think he's got as much of a chance of victory as shogun.
MrJudzey 5 months ago
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RudeBoyRGA 2 years ago
idk
leonydis300 2 years ago
damn will ppl quit talkin shit. negativity isnt getting anyone any where
dankbud 2 years ago
I think Machida vs. Shogun fight, is just like St. Pierre vs. Penn 1st fight because of the controversial decision.
grimgrimace13 2 years ago
Go masturbate onto your whitebelt while thinking of Machida, cockbite.
Lsdfunk 2 years ago
If you are hitting your opponent where they are supposed to be hit in the head, then you will most likely not cut him but still do devastating damage. Rua didn't have Lyoto's punching tech.
wiggalama 2 years ago
Anyone else notice the more mature mindset of the Lyoto supporters? If you are going to say Lyoto lost, then make a valid point and either way there will be a rematch. Lyoto has alot more in his arsenal and has Anderson fucking Silva to train with! Besides, even a Shogun can't defeat a samurai dragon...lol.
wiggalama 2 years ago
All hail the new light-heavyweight champion:
MAURICIO SHOGUN RUA!!!
That decision is is the biggest disgrace MMA has ever had. Seriously fucking pathetic.
Fuck yoUFC!
Lsdfunk 2 years ago
BOOO SHOGUN WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VinelandBoys13Gang 2 years ago 2
Wake up people. Machida came into this fight with his regular game. Shogun came with leg kicks. The leg kicks were good, but not good enough. Shogun should have put Machida on his back in the 5th round. He didn't. This would have,should have, could have won him the fight. In a 6th round Shogun might have won. Machida hit Shogun with more head strikes, knees, mid and upper body kicks. Without the leg kicks Shogan came with nothing. He simply lost by a narrow margin. The fight was not fixed.
ultra357 2 years ago
Dude you must be joking. A takedown in the 5th??? Shogun won the fifth round without question! The problem is the 10point must system for rounds. I can maybe see the judges giving the first 3 rounds to Machida, but they were only just. While Shogun clearly won the last two rounds and definitely won the fight. Btw it seems as though leg kicks were good enough for the judges to give the decision to Forrest over Rampage, whats up w/ that ultra???
epsilonc86 2 years ago
OK you said it. The first 3 rounds to Machida. Shogun had almost nothing but leg kicks. He didn't come with enough to be the champ. Machida should have been taken out in the 5th. Shogun hurt Machidas legs and then just stopped. Nothing else he did impressed me. Where was takedown? How about a punch that would make Machida stumble? Where was anything but leg kicks? Machida is still the champ. I think so and the judges think so.
ultra357 2 years ago
where u a fuckin judge or something or u didnt even watch the fight????? stfu and stop defending the fighter you love, it was obvious, u look like an idiot trieng to defend the false decesion
kikiitani 2 years ago
ultra357, you have said almost everything I was about to say. Besides, you ever KO someone with a leg kick to the legs. Now, if it were a street fight then the groin, knee, etc.. would have been a factor and Lyoto did take a few to his femoral nerve but the head shots and many misses on Rua's part won it for Lyoto. Further, Lyoto would have been even better if it where a street fight for obvious reasons.
wiggalama 2 years ago
do you do martial arts? clearly you must not have felt a body or leg kick before and have not experienced how debilitating it could be
bboyche 2 years ago
Lyoto did more damage to Rua's body in particular with knees.I am a brown belt in TKD and though we aren't allowed to target the legs sadly leg damage is still the most common injury. This very day I free sparred and took a decent back kick to the side of my right thigh (and delivered one at the same time). It did hurt my mobility some, but I still had my wits about me and could move and even kick.You forget the head shots and body shots Rua took and how often Rua got staggered multiple times.
wiggalama 2 years ago
we will never know if he did "more" damage to the body, its speculation. what we do know is Rua landed more hits which even the judges conceded, in terms of more head shots - just look at Machidas face and tell me "who did more damage" in terms of your TKDkick - Nothing compared to taking multiple shots to the leg in a match. taking nothing away from TKD but please spar where leg kicks are allowed for a couple rounds and then come back and talk to me until then you have no argument
bboyche 2 years ago
How about no? I guess Shogun's footprint engraved onto Machida's torso along with the cuts bruises and welts not only on his torso but all over his body wasn't legit while Shogun looked fresh as a daisy.
RedShogun13 2 years ago 2
Clearly you haven't. I don't really care about your biased views, I am only replying to you bboyche because others just might be stupid enough to believe you. If it wasn't for the rounds and rules Rua would have died in a street fight anyway. Which do you think is more debilitating, kicks to your thigh or punches to the face? The answer: it depends. Lyoto won the first 3 rounds at least and has Anderson Silva to train with and has beaten Thiago Silva=a great Maui Thai fighter so there.
wiggalama 2 years ago
all you guys wanting to see a rematch are idiots....thats exactly wtf dana whites corrupt ass wants.....he fixed this fucking fight so he can make more money on the next one...WELCOME TO THE NEW UFC aka WWF....dana is a bitch and deserves to get his ass kicked for robbing shogun and the fans who pay good money to see these fights. TITO PLEASE KICK DANAS ASS
JGrooms2k7 2 years ago
out all the fuckin comments yours makes the most sense bro... seriuously thats the 1st sign that ufc is fucking becoming corrupt, if u cant fake the fight fake the scores
kikiitani 2 years ago
Shogun show he is way better than machida... He will TKO Lyoto in the rematch
pdsobrino87 2 years ago
Machida > Shogun
Jeano777 2 years ago
i've been watching UFC since i was 14 and im 21 now after seeing this fight i might just stop supporting and stop watching UFC. WHAT A GOD DAMM DISGRACE. how can you rob a grown man on live tv and get away with it. and I'm a machida fan. WTF man
cuminthrewwitdastrap 2 years ago 7
@cuminthrewwitdastrap well shogun proved he is the champion today lmao GET KNOCKED THE FUK OUT MACHIDA
WAR SHOGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aba2185 1 year ago
the second fight will be a knock out
OnlineNewsPaper 2 years ago
i see a rematch!
AprilFoolsJokes 2 years ago