John basil one is a badass. He deserved his dues during the famed battle scene in one of the early episodes of the HBO series The Pacific. It was my favorite episode by far.
@Gangster88232 Only slightly worse than some of those terrible Breda LMGs the Italians had in WW2; the ones that had snappable 20-round chargers and random projections everywhere. Still, at least they fired...
The model 1915 Chauchat was an effective weapon. I wish I could confirm that they were using Balle D ammo (WWI) and not balle N (1930's). 8.5MM? BS. It was 8MM lebel.
@ArchOfficial You are merely passing on erroneous history. The 8MM CSRG 1915 was an effective weapon if it wasn't perfect in trench conditions but it was considered a workable weapon by the first seven-eight US Divisions in France and the French. The .30/06 CSRG 1918 was a mistake due to hurried production and lack of testing which put a defective gun into US. The CSRG 1918 didn't work under the best of conditions. This hatred of the CSRG 1918 has rubbed off onto the CSRG 1915.
No, it was totally a piece of shit. There were LOTS AND LOTS of issue with the machine gun, and they performed like crap until at least 1918 when most of the trench warfare ended. Even the French disliked the weapon.
Sorry, the facts don't bear you out. It was hardly ideal weapon in the trenches as the first of it's kind but it was a workable gun in the CSRG 1915 version. It was the success of the weapon with the French and and the first US Divisions that went into combat that lead to the US to make a mistake and order one in .30/06 which was the CSRG 1918 with a straight clip. It was the disaster, not the CSRG 1915.
Um, considering it was NEEDED in the trenches, and it failed horribly in the trenches, that would be a big failure. The fact that the French gave it up for an American machine gun is rather telling.
@EvilxMerlin The CSRG 1915 did not fail horribly in the trenches. The trenches were the most difficult conditions put on a gun and the CSRG 1915 was still a workable weapon. The Clips were kept in waterproof bags and the feeding of the gun was usually done by an assistant. CSRG 1915's were also set up in defensive positions. It was not IDEAL in the trenches but it still was more USEFUL than not. Jambs were usually easily cleared. The gunners were trained in the weapon.
@EvilxMerlin Have you ever fired the CSRG 1915? I have and have done a heck of a lot more research on the gun than what you find on Wiki. Have you read "Honor Bound"?
Yep, every year, at least twice. And if you have done so much "Research" why are almost all of your posts cut and paste material, line for line, from Wikipedia?
@EvilxMerlin Additionally to what I just wrote below, the CSRG 1915 was used by the French well after the war. Better guns were made in the 20's and it was replaced. The BAR was a better weapon of course but Pershing held them back for the 1919 offensive. The first BARs were rushed across the ocean with poorly tempered recoil springs and once heated up might have started jamming like the horrible CSRG 1918's. The French used CSRG's throughout the war.
Wow, someone shoot the researchers, some of the Info is shocking
1) its 8mm Lebel, not 8.5mm Labelle
2) Chauchats effective range is well over 250 yards, its more like over 1000. Its not a weak round like the 5.56mm its a old school battle rifle round.
3) the 30-06 when ww1 started wasnt a boat tail round that came with the .30-06 M1 round in the 20's, and it certainly wasnt a break through the French Lebel Balle D was boat tailed in 1898.
i love those beatifull machineguns i can hardly waith 3 more months saving and I will be able to get one off those WW I Vickers and import it from England to it's new home Spain
Thelseman and Kategora,thank you deeply for your support.I'm quite moved ,and it legitimates the work of memory i'm doing here everyday,to honor the WW2 allied Vets,even the Brits,hehe...
It's my duty to teach my relatives and my child,that liberty had a price.I live in Normandie,and i consider this area like a bit part of US and GB territory.
@MrSebfrench76 Ah no problem my friend in America we see France as our true mother country you freed us from the British. And Held North America first.
@TheIceman567 im speaking english and don't tell me to care less about what other do with their time when you were the one who orignally started this rant when i posted that comment about why the chauchat was so shit.
'and reason why the chauchat is so useless Gunny is becuase the french pefer surrendering then fighting.' I'd say that constitutes calling the French cowards, but thats just me.
For the Brit:you,little man,i'm sorry if you bought a french car,but it's not my fault.I was also the unhappy owner of a Rover and i don't hate you for that.I add that i'm no Sarkozy's relative and that i find Cameron a quite presentable gentleman,so please,calm a bit down.Don't forget you have to stand us a bit if you want to enjoy the southern sun(take care of your WASP skin..)
@isamtator No, John Browning invented the M1917 Browning watercooled machine gun in 1917 but British inventor Sir Hiram Maxim invented the first watercooled machine gun. The first prototype was demonstrated in October 1884.
@cxcarmic sometimes as close as 10 to 20 yards at Gallopili on the Turkish Peninsula.
In Europe they would often fight each other from different parts of the same trench system. Depending on location close enough to talk to each other other times hundreds of yards between
@xProGamerUKx It is basically a Vickers because Vickers aswell as most machine guns used in WW1 were copies or worked the same way the original Maxim worked.
Hahahahaha!You cracked me up Gladify!It's the first time i listen to such a good joke concerning the french cowardness,hahahah,i think i'm gonna die!!!
Houlala.......How many lil'jokers are on the place?And when i think that i always defend your troops when leftwingers here in france shout:"USA,no good,killing people!"
The same beotian way to reduce a problem you are yourself using when writing french=chicken
No Sir,i'm just tired of these 2 cents jokes.We are not the best,far from me to say this,but we don't have to be harshed everytime there is a comparison beetween us and the whole world.Just keep in mind our number of casualties during the campaign of France.Wait,you stupid frogs,you prefer to die than to surrender?In 7 decades ,everybody will have forgotten the numerous french officers that commited suicide when they realised it was over..
Well,i think it's now time for you to say to me a wonderful and definitive goodbye!
A thing so desperately common here on Youtube,is the lack of humour,and by the way ,the lack of intelligence.With you,dear Gladify,we have a special bargain on each!!
So long dear "trou du cul"!! "la France,à travers moi,elle emmerde bien profond les pecnots arrogants de ton espece!!"
I leave you the pleasure to translate by yourself.
@gladifly Renault FT-17. M1897 75mm light field gun. SPAD XIII. Breguet 14. 155mm Schneider M1917 howitzer. 155mm Grand Puisance Filloux (GPF) medium field gun. Verdun. Stonne. Gembloux Gap. Dunkirk Perimeter. Bir Hakiem. Doctrines are not the same as courage. The "truth" you say? Looks more like an *opinion,* and a pathetically arrogant and *misinformed* opinion at that, hotshot. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
@Kagetora2010 whatever the point is you frenchies made the chauchat knowing that you would never have to use it because you frenchies are best at surrender.
@gladifly (1) I'm an *American.* (2) We *Americans* used the Chauchat, and it beat the Hell out of not having *any* automatic support weapons at the squad level. The BAR wasn't even ready until the last weeks of the war, and reached our troops in the trenches in small numbers only. Judging from your grammar, spelling, and willful ignorance while playing "troll," I am willing to bet I've been studying war and the art of war long before you were a spark in yer Daddy's eye...
@Kagetora2010 hey dumbass.....thousands of american soldiers lost their lives because of this piece of french knock off crap and isn't it funny how more people agree with me than you hahaha your the fucking troll here and your ignorance is off the scale.
@gladifly First, pony up some actual proof of your assertion that the Chauchat was directly responsible for the deaths of "thousands" of American soldiers. Second, the number of people who agree with you does not mean anything; argumentum ad populam is a fallacy. After you provide some actual proof -cite your sources- then you can talk. You can start your research with the #1 weapon-related cause of soldier deaths on the Western Front during WW1 - artillery, then go from there.
@Kagetora2010 our soldiers lost their lives to this gun in WW2 its obvious when theres a gun that cannot fire a whole clip without jamming that theres soldiers bound to have lost their lives because of it and just imagine how it acutally performed on the western front with mud and dust getting inside of the chamber. infact have you even watched this video? gunny sums it up what this gun is. so stop your damm trolling.
@gladifly Calling me a troll is clinical projection behavior at its best, sport. It is never a cogent rebuttal to anything. As for the Chauchat, I asked you to present proof, not cite this single video clip -an anecdote- and then reassert your opinion. I know the 1915 CSRG quite well; I've been studying military history for almost 40 years now. It's at best a mediocre weapon in 8mm, a turkey in .30-06. The open magazine is a dirt magnet, yes. The gun still worked well enough to...
@gladifly ... justify its sustained production until the FM24/29 Chatterault replaced it in the 1920s. It got the job done of providing suppressive fire at the squad level to allow French, African, and American soldiers and Marines to get up close enough to a machine gun nest and silence it with grenades or rifle grenades (also French - the Vivien-Bessieres or VB rifle grenade launcher). This is not the only clip of the Chauchat on Youtube BTW, nor is it the only Chauchat still around.
@gladifly Oh, and this is a weapon from the Great War, aka World War I, or The First World War originally. Our soldiers used it in WW1 until it was fully replaced by the BAR in the 1920s. ironically, the Chauchat did see brief service in WW2, with the French Army in 1939 as an ad hoc anti-aircraft machine gun until enough FM24/27s arrived after mobilization, and the Greek Army against the invading Italian Army in 1941 (until the Greeks captured enough Italian Breda LMGs to go around).
@Kagetora2010 haha thats a suprise isn't it "the french using the chauchat in WW2" no wonder they surrendered cause they designed it knowing that they proberly would never have to use it instead opting to surrender ahhhhhhhhh thats brave french for ya.
@gladifly The French used the Chauchat at the very beginning of the war as a light AA weapon, and only in static defenses until the FM 24/27s arrived. By the time of the German invasion in May 1940, there were no more Chauchats in French service. The Chauchats were used from 1915-18. They got the job done well enough; go look up Verdun for example. The French surrendered in 1940 due to doctrinal failure and equipment shortages, not a lack of courage on the part of the French soldiers.
@gladifly Put CSRG 15 into the YouTube search engine, There's a clip of a Chauchat firing a full clip, no jams. Warts and all, the Chauchat worked more often then not, and was able to put down a useful suppressing fire to cover a squad assault on a machine gun nest or enemy trench. It gave the poilus a force multiplier they previously did not have. As for French courage, you need to read up on the Battle of Verdun, and learn the difference between opinions and actual facts.
@Kagetora2010 why would i need to. Gunny is firing the chauchat here but you wouldn't know that since you haven't even watched this video and just commented on here to troll. my original comment was stereotypical but its shit brains like you who take it to heart and are actually insulted by it. pahaha your pathetic mate.
@gladifly By admitting you were the OP who resorted to stereotyping, you prove conclusively which of us is the troll in the room. I watched the video. Pathetic is as pathetic does, and the contents of our respective posts can be read by anyone and judged on the merits of their respective contents. Which of us is the troll and which is not is obvious to the proverbial dead blind man. It's you that's got *nothing* to bring to the party, mate, except lies, projection, and insults.
@gladifly Which of us is the troll is more than self-evident. "Jokers" that resort to stereotypes are not funny, but at best *pathetic.* I have a sense of humor, self evident as well; I've been responding to your ad hominems, profanity, and thinly-veiled *bigotry* with actual historical facts. It's your all too apparent state of perpetually being untroubled by the ravages of intelligence that gives me cause to laugh out loud, so certain as you are of your own "genius." Cheers, Wile E.
@gladifly You Fucking limey. You had your own gun. Why do you care what the French made and So what about WW2 the French were still fighting with the allies during the war.
@TheIceman567 im not talking for America i would never do such a thing, remember your speaking my language and your clearly not just a dumb yankee but also a demented yankee.
@TheIceman567 really i don't want to insult you Americans, i like you people but the actual english language that is spoken by both our countries came from england yes the english language has german roots but the kind we speak is english not german.
@TheIceman567 i don't hate the french but its sort of like a tradition over here for the french and british to hate each other but its the kind of hate where we don't really me to hate really we are just joking around.
@MrSebfrench76 Such as "gladifly" should ask the 101,000 *Germans* who were battle casualties during the Battle of France and the Low Countries May-June 1940 about the subject of French courage, especially those Gross Deutchland veterans who fought at Stonne, and the panzer crews who ran up against Capitaine Pierre Billotte and his crew of the char "Eure."
@gladifly Well, they didnt prefer surrendering during WW1, so your off whit a world war there. Now they werent as porffesional as the germans but they sure had most guts and were frecking nuts. Which also lead to most casualties proportional during the war and leading to the neglectance of the army before WW2.
"You still need four guys to HUMP the damn thing around, the gunner HUMPS the tripod the assisted gunner HUMPS the gun, the third guy HUMPS the cradle, the water can, and the hose, gosh I wonder what the ammo HUMPER carries."
and the M1918 BAR had its place in history replacing the chauchat and was one of browning's legendary designs and there's a story about being used by a guy in ww2 and received the medal of honor
C'mon, Gunney! If you're going to represent French machine guns from The Great War you have to show off the M1914 Hotchkiss! We used it as well as the French, and it was a good, reliable, and accurate weapon. As for the hapless Chauchat, it was only after we rechambered the silly thing for .30-06 that this mediocre weapon became the unreliable monster of legend.
@EFG44 Actually, there's still quite a few Hotchkiss M1914s still around and in firing condition. The "Bene-Mercier" as the Hotchkiss was known in the US pre-war can also be found here and there in firing condition. Leaving this important Great War weapon out is simply inexcusable IMHO.
you know, I'm 34 and I still remember when I was a little kid we talked about American made stuff even a flash light made in the USA seems indestructible, what the hell happen with you guys??, now a days you got nothing!! Asian made crap, and 2 year old lasting rated cars... Unbelievable.
Ive seen alot of Lock and Load Episodes or clips where Gunny tells you about what gun is better , and he ALWAYS says that the Us Weapon is better... but no Harm ;) hes just ULTRA patriotic...:P
What about using the original 8MM LEBEL ammo in an original chauchat, instead of the crappy version modified by the americans to use 30.06... that jamms all the time ? The chauchat, despite not liking mud ( how strange for that time ! ) provided an excellent mobile firepower and suppression to infantry, just like the BAR did some years later. Correct rifle, good concept.
@canicheenrage Not really it was not a good gun. You could the some parts of the Chauchat and put it in another Chauchat and it would not work. It jammed frequently(Although many gun did in that time) and it was not built reliably. In fact many historian will agree that it's possibly the worst machine gun ever made.
@brownking96 1/2 These historians seem quite reliable indeed. I wonder how qualified they are, to mistake an automatic rifle for a machine gun. :P Are they the same that are involved in Mr Ermey's show ?
More seriously, the rifle was under hard conditions unreliable; Main reason being a lot were using unproper barrels, pieces, taken from Berthier mousquetons and so on, to hurry production. This was even worse with the american version. But this made the chauchat available in great numbers;
2/2 Quality or quantity in a time of war ? They chose quantity. Up to 4 in a squad. Facing enemies with bolt-action rifles, an advantage; Facing a machineg-un nest, this just saved countless lives. That was a way to suppress a machine gun when attacking. In defense, it was simply deadly. Not the one that jammed, but all the ones that were shooting. Individually fragile, the mass gave the outnumbered french an asset. So, no, it was not the worst.
The chauchat got its job done during the german offensive of 1918 where battles happened more often in opean air fields, it was used as anti machine gun nests and worked. The chauchat's faulire mostly only happened when surrounded by mud and other dirty stuff and when going full auto with it. The chauchat failing like that in the show is obviously scripted, well they had to rpove that it was a piece of shit.
lol love how he casts the vickers off as another maxim copy even though there was a radical redesign of the whole action of the gun, yet claims the m1917 as different from the crowd for using a different calibre to the original. hold on, the vickers had a different calibre too...
i m not agree with the chauhat, of course it wasn t a very good gun But it was really easy to produce, and cheap. and on a battlefield it was more easy to run with the chauchat than the maxim
to say the chauchat is the worst mg ever is wrong, designers never make a gun worse than the weapon they are trying to beat. that said is the chauchat a bad gun, or is everything after it just better?
Americans, always ready to shit on us but not recognize any of our prowess. Hell I'm sure if we listen to them any of the good french soldiers and commanders were in fact Americans sent to France with a time travel machine...
My great great grandfather was a decorated WW1hero (Serbian White Eagle order). In the latter half of the war he was a machine-gunner on the Macedonian front who was always the FIRST in an infantry assault. Try doing that with any other mass-produced WW1 machine-gun than the Chauchat. He was never wounded, though enemy bullets repeatedly grazed his uniform. I guess he wouldn't have survived had he not have a working Chauchat in his hands. Reliability primarily comes from proper maintenance.
Remember the Chauchat was an old prototype from 1905, shunned by the army, forgotten for ten years until it was rushed in production with little to no change in 1915. It had been thought as an open fi
Redneck moment - Arrrrraah ! 1:44
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XxXWickedSharkXxX 2 days ago
*Basilone*
fletcher15453 3 days ago
John basil one is a badass. He deserved his dues during the famed battle scene in one of the early episodes of the HBO series The Pacific. It was my favorite episode by far.
fletcher15453 3 days ago
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cellomad1 5 days ago
at 5:21 Gunny uses a shell as his earplug?
deran88 1 week ago
The Chauchat is a Piece a CRAP!!!
H20nas 1 week ago
i wonder would the chauchat be a better gun if the magazine didnt have them giant holes in them
ryansloan14 2 weeks ago
I have a GI Joe of Mitchell Paige.
ToBeFedVideos 2 weeks ago
shittiest gun ever made.
1bearcatf8f 3 weeks ago
It's a modern art masterpiece!
Bryan514 3 weeks ago
Chauchat the worst weapon ever.
Gangster88232 1 month ago 5
@Gangster88232 Only slightly worse than some of those terrible Breda LMGs the Italians had in WW2; the ones that had snappable 20-round chargers and random projections everywhere. Still, at least they fired...
KrillLiberator 3 weeks ago
@Gangster88232 ok i have an intresting Q for you
the year is 1750. you have an army of 6000 men vs 12000 men
now you have a choice ethier you get the last type of musket or you can arm youre troops with the Chauchat, wiche one do you pick?
lordofdarkdudes 3 weeks ago
@lordofdarkdudes Why in 1750? Chachaut was used in WWI and was the worst weapon in this time like today...
Gangster88232 3 weeks ago
@Gangster88232 dude its like a deadlist warrior thing
would you rather have the best of the musket or the worst of the ligth machin guns
lordofdarkdudes 2 weeks ago
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@lordofdarkdudes Why in 1750? Chachaut was used in WWI and was the worst weapon in this time like today...
Gangster88232 3 weeks ago
@lordofdarkdudes Why in 1750? Chachaut was used in WWI and was the worst weapon in this time. and is one of the worst weapon ever.
Gangster88232 3 weeks ago
The model 1915 Chauchat was an effective weapon. I wish I could confirm that they were using Balle D ammo (WWI) and not balle N (1930's). 8.5MM? BS. It was 8MM lebel.
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
@hoodoo2001
The Chauchat was far from effective.
It was essentially a piece of shit.
ArchOfficial 1 month ago
@ArchOfficial You are merely passing on erroneous history. The 8MM CSRG 1915 was an effective weapon if it wasn't perfect in trench conditions but it was considered a workable weapon by the first seven-eight US Divisions in France and the French. The .30/06 CSRG 1918 was a mistake due to hurried production and lack of testing which put a defective gun into US. The CSRG 1918 didn't work under the best of conditions. This hatred of the CSRG 1918 has rubbed off onto the CSRG 1915.
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
@hoodoo2001
No, it was totally a piece of shit. There were LOTS AND LOTS of issue with the machine gun, and they performed like crap until at least 1918 when most of the trench warfare ended. Even the French disliked the weapon.
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
@EvilxMerlin
Sorry, the facts don't bear you out. It was hardly ideal weapon in the trenches as the first of it's kind but it was a workable gun in the CSRG 1915 version. It was the success of the weapon with the French and and the first US Divisions that went into combat that lead to the US to make a mistake and order one in .30/06 which was the CSRG 1918 with a straight clip. It was the disaster, not the CSRG 1915.
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
@hoodoo2001
Um, considering it was NEEDED in the trenches, and it failed horribly in the trenches, that would be a big failure. The fact that the French gave it up for an American machine gun is rather telling.
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
@EvilxMerlin The CSRG 1915 did not fail horribly in the trenches. The trenches were the most difficult conditions put on a gun and the CSRG 1915 was still a workable weapon. The Clips were kept in waterproof bags and the feeding of the gun was usually done by an assistant. CSRG 1915's were also set up in defensive positions. It was not IDEAL in the trenches but it still was more USEFUL than not. Jambs were usually easily cleared. The gunners were trained in the weapon.
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
@hoodoo2001
Thats not what the French thought. You failed to cut and paste what the French thought from your Wikipedia cut and paste.
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
@EvilxMerlin Have you ever fired the CSRG 1915? I have and have done a heck of a lot more research on the gun than what you find on Wiki. Have you read "Honor Bound"?
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
@hoodoo2001
Yep, every year, at least twice. And if you have done so much "Research" why are almost all of your posts cut and paste material, line for line, from Wikipedia?
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
@EvilxMerlin Additionally to what I just wrote below, the CSRG 1915 was used by the French well after the war. Better guns were made in the 20's and it was replaced. The BAR was a better weapon of course but Pershing held them back for the 1919 offensive. The first BARs were rushed across the ocean with poorly tempered recoil springs and once heated up might have started jamming like the horrible CSRG 1918's. The French used CSRG's throughout the war.
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
@hoodoo2001
Dude, seriously, just stop cutting and pasting from Wikipedia.
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
Ermy is totally wrong about the Chauchat. What moronic TV.
hoodoo2001 1 month ago
funny farter
jurijjful 1 month ago
Забавный пердун!
jurijjful 1 month ago
KSP 58
MrNorbotten 1 month ago
yes but what is that french song called
07thunderhawk 1 month ago
is that guy out of full metal jacket?
buttonisbest 2 months ago
@buttonisbest Yes it's Ronald Lee Ermey
JochenRU 1 month ago
whats that song called
07thunderhawk 2 months ago
Wow, someone shoot the researchers, some of the Info is shocking
1) its 8mm Lebel, not 8.5mm Labelle
2) Chauchats effective range is well over 250 yards, its more like over 1000. Its not a weak round like the 5.56mm its a old school battle rifle round.
3) the 30-06 when ww1 started wasnt a boat tail round that came with the .30-06 M1 round in the 20's, and it certainly wasnt a break through the French Lebel Balle D was boat tailed in 1898.
Garron88 2 months ago
@Garron88 I thought that too
T55Storm 2 months ago
i love those beatifull machineguns i can hardly waith 3 more months saving and I will be able to get one off those WW I Vickers and import it from England to it's new home Spain
Raurvoras 2 months ago
Thelseman and Kategora,thank you deeply for your support.I'm quite moved ,and it legitimates the work of memory i'm doing here everyday,to honor the WW2 allied Vets,even the Brits,hehe...
It's my duty to teach my relatives and my child,that liberty had a price.I live in Normandie,and i consider this area like a bit part of US and GB territory.
MrSebfrench76 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 Ah no problem my friend in America we see France as our true mother country you freed us from the British. And Held North America first.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 tell me again what language you speak and if it wasn't for the british conquest in north america would you be speaking that language.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly I speak French, English, Spanish and Hebrew and you?
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 har har thats pretty funny
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly What's the matter tommy jealous?
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 what? jealous that you speak more than one language? hardley since english is the only language i need to speak.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly Then speak it. And care less about what others do with their time.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 im speaking english and don't tell me to care less about what other do with their time when you were the one who orignally started this rant when i posted that comment about why the chauchat was so shit.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly No i stepped in in when you called the french cowards. And then pussed out.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 what you talking about ive never once called no frenchies cowards.
gladifly 2 months ago
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@gladifly
'and reason why the chauchat is so useless Gunny is becuase the french pefer surrendering then fighting.' I'd say that constitutes calling the French cowards, but thats just me.
HauptmannRob 2 months ago
For the Brit:you,little man,i'm sorry if you bought a french car,but it's not my fault.I was also the unhappy owner of a Rover and i don't hate you for that.I add that i'm no Sarkozy's relative and that i find Cameron a quite presentable gentleman,so please,calm a bit down.Don't forget you have to stand us a bit if you want to enjoy the southern sun(take care of your WASP skin..)
MrSebfrench76 2 months ago
I thought John Moses Browning desgined the first water cooled gun!
isamtator 3 months ago
@isamtator No, John Browning invented the M1917 Browning watercooled machine gun in 1917 but British inventor Sir Hiram Maxim invented the first watercooled machine gun. The first prototype was demonstrated in October 1884.
AUG351 2 months ago
cus it was made in america
muldroonz 3 months ago
chauchat: chau'll chat your pants if you have to use it
walruspictures 3 months ago
About how far apart are trenches in World War I?
cxcarmic 3 months ago
@cxcarmic about 100 yards
50TNCSA 3 months ago
@cxcarmic sometimes as close as 10 to 20 yards at Gallopili on the Turkish Peninsula.
In Europe they would often fight each other from different parts of the same trench system. Depending on location close enough to talk to each other other times hundreds of yards between
TheTabellarius 3 months ago
looks like the vickers?
xProGamerUKx 4 months ago
@xProGamerUKx It is basically a Vickers because Vickers aswell as most machine guns used in WW1 were copies or worked the same way the original Maxim worked.
AUG351 2 months ago
lets be honest, french guns are CHAT!
xxuncexx 4 months ago
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xxuncexx 4 months ago
and reason why the chauchat is so useless Gunny is becuase the french pefer surrendering then fighting.
gladifly 4 months ago 22
@gladifly
Hahahahaha!You cracked me up Gladify!It's the first time i listen to such a good joke concerning the french cowardness,hahahah,i think i'm gonna die!!!
Houlala.......How many lil'jokers are on the place?And when i think that i always defend your troops when leftwingers here in france shout:"USA,no good,killing people!"
The same beotian way to reduce a problem you are yourself using when writing french=chicken
MrSebfrench76 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 so your blaming me for your countries military decisions?
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly
No Sir,i'm just tired of these 2 cents jokes.We are not the best,far from me to say this,but we don't have to be harshed everytime there is a comparison beetween us and the whole world.Just keep in mind our number of casualties during the campaign of France.Wait,you stupid frogs,you prefer to die than to surrender?In 7 decades ,everybody will have forgotten the numerous french officers that commited suicide when they realised it was over..
MrSebfrench76 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 oh your so full of shit!
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly
Dear little man ,i was so sure this will be your next reply...
Why don't you go in a public library to open an history book and just admit that the things are not the way you think they are?
There is other countries in the world don't you know Gladify?
I have the deepest respect for the US of A,but when you try to explain me how to think,you suck!
MrSebfrench76 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 surrendering, bad at fighting wars, bad at making guns, lol whats next french people don't like hearing the truth.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly
Well,i think it's now time for you to say to me a wonderful and definitive goodbye!
A thing so desperately common here on Youtube,is the lack of humour,and by the way ,the lack of intelligence.With you,dear Gladify,we have a special bargain on each!!
So long dear "trou du cul"!! "la France,à travers moi,elle emmerde bien profond les pecnots arrogants de ton espece!!"
I leave you the pleasure to translate by yourself.
MrSebfrench76 2 months ago
@gladifly Renault FT-17. M1897 75mm light field gun. SPAD XIII. Breguet 14. 155mm Schneider M1917 howitzer. 155mm Grand Puisance Filloux (GPF) medium field gun. Verdun. Stonne. Gembloux Gap. Dunkirk Perimeter. Bir Hakiem. Doctrines are not the same as courage. The "truth" you say? Looks more like an *opinion,* and a pathetically arrogant and *misinformed* opinion at that, hotshot. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 whatever the point is you frenchies made the chauchat knowing that you would never have to use it because you frenchies are best at surrender.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly (1) I'm an *American.* (2) We *Americans* used the Chauchat, and it beat the Hell out of not having *any* automatic support weapons at the squad level. The BAR wasn't even ready until the last weeks of the war, and reached our troops in the trenches in small numbers only. Judging from your grammar, spelling, and willful ignorance while playing "troll," I am willing to bet I've been studying war and the art of war long before you were a spark in yer Daddy's eye...
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 hey dumbass.....thousands of american soldiers lost their lives because of this piece of french knock off crap and isn't it funny how more people agree with me than you hahaha your the fucking troll here and your ignorance is off the scale.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly First, pony up some actual proof of your assertion that the Chauchat was directly responsible for the deaths of "thousands" of American soldiers. Second, the number of people who agree with you does not mean anything; argumentum ad populam is a fallacy. After you provide some actual proof -cite your sources- then you can talk. You can start your research with the #1 weapon-related cause of soldier deaths on the Western Front during WW1 - artillery, then go from there.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 our soldiers lost their lives to this gun in WW2 its obvious when theres a gun that cannot fire a whole clip without jamming that theres soldiers bound to have lost their lives because of it and just imagine how it acutally performed on the western front with mud and dust getting inside of the chamber. infact have you even watched this video? gunny sums it up what this gun is. so stop your damm trolling.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly Calling me a troll is clinical projection behavior at its best, sport. It is never a cogent rebuttal to anything. As for the Chauchat, I asked you to present proof, not cite this single video clip -an anecdote- and then reassert your opinion. I know the 1915 CSRG quite well; I've been studying military history for almost 40 years now. It's at best a mediocre weapon in 8mm, a turkey in .30-06. The open magazine is a dirt magnet, yes. The gun still worked well enough to...
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@gladifly ... justify its sustained production until the FM24/29 Chatterault replaced it in the 1920s. It got the job done of providing suppressive fire at the squad level to allow French, African, and American soldiers and Marines to get up close enough to a machine gun nest and silence it with grenades or rifle grenades (also French - the Vivien-Bessieres or VB rifle grenade launcher). This is not the only clip of the Chauchat on Youtube BTW, nor is it the only Chauchat still around.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@gladifly Oh, and this is a weapon from the Great War, aka World War I, or The First World War originally. Our soldiers used it in WW1 until it was fully replaced by the BAR in the 1920s. ironically, the Chauchat did see brief service in WW2, with the French Army in 1939 as an ad hoc anti-aircraft machine gun until enough FM24/27s arrived after mobilization, and the Greek Army against the invading Italian Army in 1941 (until the Greeks captured enough Italian Breda LMGs to go around).
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 haha thats a suprise isn't it "the french using the chauchat in WW2" no wonder they surrendered cause they designed it knowing that they proberly would never have to use it instead opting to surrender ahhhhhhhhh thats brave french for ya.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly The French used the Chauchat at the very beginning of the war as a light AA weapon, and only in static defenses until the FM 24/27s arrived. By the time of the German invasion in May 1940, there were no more Chauchats in French service. The Chauchats were used from 1915-18. They got the job done well enough; go look up Verdun for example. The French surrendered in 1940 due to doctrinal failure and equipment shortages, not a lack of courage on the part of the French soldiers.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@gladifly Put CSRG 15 into the YouTube search engine, There's a clip of a Chauchat firing a full clip, no jams. Warts and all, the Chauchat worked more often then not, and was able to put down a useful suppressing fire to cover a squad assault on a machine gun nest or enemy trench. It gave the poilus a force multiplier they previously did not have. As for French courage, you need to read up on the Battle of Verdun, and learn the difference between opinions and actual facts.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 why would i need to. Gunny is firing the chauchat here but you wouldn't know that since you haven't even watched this video and just commented on here to troll. my original comment was stereotypical but its shit brains like you who take it to heart and are actually insulted by it. pahaha your pathetic mate.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly By admitting you were the OP who resorted to stereotyping, you prove conclusively which of us is the troll in the room. I watched the video. Pathetic is as pathetic does, and the contents of our respective posts can be read by anyone and judged on the merits of their respective contents. Which of us is the troll and which is not is obvious to the proverbial dead blind man. It's you that's got *nothing* to bring to the party, mate, except lies, projection, and insults.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 you are taking a joke seriously. damm It's a good Job your sense of humour doesn't keep your heart beating. You'd be dead.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly Which of us is the troll is more than self-evident. "Jokers" that resort to stereotypes are not funny, but at best *pathetic.* I have a sense of humor, self evident as well; I've been responding to your ad hominems, profanity, and thinly-veiled *bigotry* with actual historical facts. It's your all too apparent state of perpetually being untroubled by the ravages of intelligence that gives me cause to laugh out loud, so certain as you are of your own "genius." Cheers, Wile E.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 whatever i don't really care what you think because 17 other people must of found it pretty amusing!
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly You Fucking limey. You had your own gun. Why do you care what the French made and So what about WW2 the French were still fighting with the allies during the war.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 no shit
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly Then quit talking for America yah dumb Tommy.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 im not talking for America i would never do such a thing, remember your speaking my language and your clearly not just a dumb yankee but also a demented yankee.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly Really Because English broke away from German you moron. God you tommies are stupid.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 really i don't want to insult you Americans, i like you people but the actual english language that is spoken by both our countries came from england yes the english language has german roots but the kind we speak is english not german.
gladifly 2 months ago
@gladifly Wel, I'll tell you this if you're gonna hate on the french do it else where please.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 i don't hate the french but its sort of like a tradition over here for the french and british to hate each other but its the kind of hate where we don't really me to hate really we are just joking around.
gladifly 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 Hey Seb if you look at that morons profile it says he's British not American bro. Most American Love France. Trust me.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
@TheIceman567 yeah im british.
gladifly 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 Such as "gladifly" should ask the 101,000 *Germans* who were battle casualties during the Battle of France and the Low Countries May-June 1940 about the subject of French courage, especially those Gross Deutchland veterans who fought at Stonne, and the panzer crews who ran up against Capitaine Pierre Billotte and his crew of the char "Eure."
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@MrSebfrench76 hey check out "A history of WW2 podcast" it goes to detail of what went of these days, you like history?, you'll love this podcast.
noeleal 1 month ago
@gladifly Well, they didnt prefer surrendering during WW1, so your off whit a world war there. Now they werent as porffesional as the germans but they sure had most guts and were frecking nuts. Which also lead to most casualties proportional during the war and leading to the neglectance of the army before WW2.
tyskbulle 2 months ago
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@gladifly "and reason why the chauchat is so useless Gunny is becuase the french pefer surrendering then fighting." As you said.
TheIceman567 2 months ago
My grandfather was Eugieniusz Horbaczewski and i was born in Berlin .
BigLouieLittlePhilly 4 months ago
..you're so ugly, you could be a modern art masterpiece..
milanSK1980 4 months ago
"You still need four guys to HUMP the damn thing around, the gunner HUMPS the tripod the assisted gunner HUMPS the gun, the third guy HUMPS the cradle, the water can, and the hose, gosh I wonder what the ammo HUMPER carries."
XxrushxX1 4 months ago
NRA members, no.. This old guy? I respect his fighting for his beliefs but... no. If you are going to spew your beliefs on me, don't.
Muzzly1234 4 months ago
super video
Milan123422 5 months ago
he likes to talk about humping
bjelly5t 5 months ago
ive never seen "gunnery sgt. hartman" when hes not yelling at solieders XD
snoke57 5 months ago
and the M1918 BAR had its place in history replacing the chauchat and was one of browning's legendary designs and there's a story about being used by a guy in ww2 and received the medal of honor
kevinrocks05 5 months ago
C'mon, Gunney! If you're going to represent French machine guns from The Great War you have to show off the M1914 Hotchkiss! We used it as well as the French, and it was a good, reliable, and accurate weapon. As for the hapless Chauchat, it was only after we rechambered the silly thing for .30-06 that this mediocre weapon became the unreliable monster of legend.
Kagetora2010 5 months ago 6
@Kagetora2010 And about as hard to find as a clean Las Vegas Prostitute.
EFG44 2 months ago
@EFG44 Actually, there's still quite a few Hotchkiss M1914s still around and in firing condition. The "Bene-Mercier" as the Hotchkiss was known in the US pre-war can also be found here and there in firing condition. Leaving this important Great War weapon out is simply inexcusable IMHO.
Kagetora2010 2 months ago
@Kagetora2010 Thankyou :D learn something new every day :D
EFG44 2 months ago
you know, I'm 34 and I still remember when I was a little kid we talked about American made stuff even a flash light made in the USA seems indestructible, what the hell happen with you guys??, now a days you got nothing!! Asian made crap, and 2 year old lasting rated cars... Unbelievable.
noeleal 6 months ago
@noeleal {:'( Greedy people....
J88Wolf 4 months ago
Ive seen alot of Lock and Load Episodes or clips where Gunny tells you about what gun is better , and he ALWAYS says that the Us Weapon is better... but no Harm ;) hes just ULTRA patriotic...:P
kcubuss 6 months ago
there's just 1 thing missing the BROWNING M1918 BAR.
kevinrocks05 6 months ago
@kevinrocks05 BAR stands for Browning Automatic RIFLE
PrettyGurlRocker14 5 months ago
@kevinrocks05 thats why it isnt here
PrettyGurlRocker14 5 months ago
Johnny Basilone loves this !
reddevilparatrooper 6 months ago
@reddevilparatrooper yup
thesoutherncross100 6 months ago
What about using the original 8MM LEBEL ammo in an original chauchat, instead of the crappy version modified by the americans to use 30.06... that jamms all the time ? The chauchat, despite not liking mud ( how strange for that time ! ) provided an excellent mobile firepower and suppression to infantry, just like the BAR did some years later. Correct rifle, good concept.
canicheenrage 6 months ago
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brownking96 6 months ago
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brownking96 6 months ago
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@canicheenrage Not really it was not a good gun. You could the some parts of the Chauchat and put it in another Chauchat and it would not work. It jammed frequently(Although many gun did in that time) and it was not built reliably. In fact many historian will agree that it's possibly the worst machine gun ever made.
brownking96 6 months ago
@brownking96 1/2 These historians seem quite reliable indeed. I wonder how qualified they are, to mistake an automatic rifle for a machine gun. :P Are they the same that are involved in Mr Ermey's show ?
More seriously, the rifle was under hard conditions unreliable; Main reason being a lot were using unproper barrels, pieces, taken from Berthier mousquetons and so on, to hurry production. This was even worse with the american version. But this made the chauchat available in great numbers;
canicheenrage 6 months ago
2/2 Quality or quantity in a time of war ? They chose quantity. Up to 4 in a squad. Facing enemies with bolt-action rifles, an advantage; Facing a machineg-un nest, this just saved countless lives. That was a way to suppress a machine gun when attacking. In defense, it was simply deadly. Not the one that jammed, but all the ones that were shooting. Individually fragile, the mass gave the outnumbered french an asset. So, no, it was not the worst.
canicheenrage 6 months ago
Browning FTW!
theMilkShakeMan100 6 months ago
chaushit
pcbb01 6 months ago
@pcbb01 yeah your right!
thesoutherncross100 5 months ago
@Typon Yeah it only jams when surrounded by mud and dirt and so when you're fighting in the muddy trenches you've got nothing to worry about.
556deltawolf 6 months ago
Maybe because finally it wasn't a so bad gun and US corp didn't have any equivalent in their arsenals before the 1918 BAR ...
To conclude with the Browning M1917 ... lol
Look for the MG 08-15 could be interresting !
Stupid chauvinism for mentally retarded people ...
arthurf33 6 months ago
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It's fun to see such kind of "documentary".
Just a beautiful crap ... Partial, stupid tests, just to play with the big toys like a child.
" 8,5 mm Labelle " instead of " 8mm Lebel " 2 errors on the first line ! Great !! Just like the standard US mental level ...
Comparing 40kg Machine guns with the first automatic rifle of the world ( produced in 1915 and just 9kg) good idea and really conclusive !
Did they forget that US Army used a lot of Chauchat guns in WW1 ?
arthurf33 6 months ago
It's fun to see such kind of "documentary".
Just a beautiful crap ... Partial, stupid tests, just to play with the big toys like a child.
" 8,5 mm Labelle " instead of " 8mm Lebel " 2 errors on the first line ! Great !! Just like the standard US mental level ...
Comparing 40kg Machine guns with the first automatic rifle of the world ( produced in 1915 and just 9kg) good idea and really conclusive !
Did they forget that US Army used a lot of Chauchat guns in WW1 ?
arthurf33 6 months ago
watching this makes me hate Americans even more
VeggeMight 6 months ago
idiots it's the ottomans >:(
RamenHenryDESU 6 months ago
4 rounds, then its time for a cigarette break and a nap
chickenchokedback 7 months ago
The chauchat got its job done during the german offensive of 1918 where battles happened more often in opean air fields, it was used as anti machine gun nests and worked. The chauchat's faulire mostly only happened when surrounded by mud and other dirty stuff and when going full auto with it. The chauchat failing like that in the show is obviously scripted, well they had to rpove that it was a piece of shit.
Typon 7 months ago
sometime today Corporal!
CNX625 7 months ago
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jkmoir 7 months ago
i'd wish they do show the Lewis gun it a great and my favorite old machine gun
TheGuilbran78 7 months ago
@TheGuilbran78 ikr
CNX625 7 months ago
Chaupieceofchat.
flamezero888 7 months ago
Apperently the French can't really build anything that works...
ShadowWo1f53 7 months ago
thanks you french assholes for giving us a shit weapon!!!
RandomProductionsCA 7 months ago
the chauchat is a pure example of a weapon that looks cool but is a piece of shit
SonOfjackass94 7 months ago
Salo les arme française sont mieux que sue américaine
Samy27071999 7 months ago
@Samy27071999 Non, non, votre Chauchat était un morceau de merde! Elle a gardé le coincement ...
Masterlink981 7 months ago
lol love how he casts the vickers off as another maxim copy even though there was a radical redesign of the whole action of the gun, yet claims the m1917 as different from the crowd for using a different calibre to the original. hold on, the vickers had a different calibre too...
punkd76 8 months ago
your really american because you don t speak about the Hotchkiss M1914 machine gun, one of the better of the wwI
Awesomecrat 8 months ago
i m not agree with the chauhat, of course it wasn t a very good gun But it was really easy to produce, and cheap. and on a battlefield it was more easy to run with the chauchat than the maxim
Awesomecrat 8 months ago
thats my gunny i love it when he put the cpl in his place get some 3/5
77sblade 8 months ago
to say the chauchat is the worst mg ever is wrong, designers never make a gun worse than the weapon they are trying to beat. that said is the chauchat a bad gun, or is everything after it just better?
vamisk 8 months ago
Americans, always ready to shit on us but not recognize any of our prowess. Hell I'm sure if we listen to them any of the good french soldiers and commanders were in fact Americans sent to France with a time travel machine...
Infernalis792 8 months ago
It's "Lebel", not "Labelle". We're not calling you Gunee, are we?
lptomtom 8 months ago
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An english helmet while talking about a french weapon ? Only in America.
jesuis0202 8 months ago
Come on, guys, it's like ... huh ... *bad at maths* a super old gun.
Le457 8 months ago
more like chaushit lol
Ultranationalist941 8 months ago
My great great grandfather was a decorated WW1hero (Serbian White Eagle order). In the latter half of the war he was a machine-gunner on the Macedonian front who was always the FIRST in an infantry assault. Try doing that with any other mass-produced WW1 machine-gun than the Chauchat. He was never wounded, though enemy bullets repeatedly grazed his uniform. I guess he wouldn't have survived had he not have a working Chauchat in his hands. Reliability primarily comes from proper maintenance.
VersusARCH 8 months ago 15
"with all due respect to our French allies, maybe they should stick to cooking" lol!!!
DennyAJD 9 months ago
the Chaushit
mccoyr11 9 months ago
throw the gun at them germans!!!
FanOfMelBrooks 9 months ago
300 rounds perminute my ass- _-
aussieblackhawk123 10 months ago
this show is so cool, but i havent seen it on tv in a while... is it still showing?
CzarSlice 10 months ago
Currently showing at the Tate Modern lol
tina6581 10 months ago
Chauchat = So-Shyte
TheHandgunhero 10 months ago
Remember the Chauchat was an old prototype from 1905, shunned by the army, forgotten for ten years until it was rushed in production with little to no change in 1915. It had been thought as an open fi