Are they singing "Lord Donald"? i think they are, It's" Arnold "actually, but whatever, this was really enjoyable, one i will watch again many times, well done all of you.
ha. i agree. as proud as i am to be american, it is kinda lame for us to pretend to have a "noble history, etc." i envy europe its rich history and lore. this is by far my favorite version of matty groves
Actually, the mountain and hill country of the American South remains largely the descendents of Celtic immigrants (and much of the rest of it remains Anglo-Saxon). American folk, bluegrass, country, all have authentic Celtic and English roots.
good version but c'mon, sandy denny sang it like she was IN the story . and richard thompson probably was the best at making electric guitars modern and traditional at the same time
Whew, that was awesome, lots of raw power. Folk music (whatever that is) as it should be. I love the twangling guitar sound; is that a Rickenbacker that the guy in the back is holding?
The gangly gal in the blue dress needs a stage presence class as its unclear what (if anything) she contributes to this very fine group. The other two girls could get a lot more out of their harmonies if they worked at it. But all in all some really good (as in awesome) talent on display considering the setting likely medicore recording technology available.
She contributes a wonderful and powerful voice. Listen to her contribution towards the end. Yes, she is shy. But she need not be. Her voice says it all.
All in all, well done. A brilliant version. Powerful, emotional.
both lord Arnold (whom I was taught) and Mattie Groves have numerous aliases in so many versions of this song that it is not possible to tell which is really the first, the song had already been around a long long time before the earliest broadsides, and there were already several versions then, so who knows what is actually tradition, as for this, it is basically a gypsy sounding version of the Fairport Convention version of the song (though quite exquistite)
ok..... now I'm intrigued! The Outro? Could you be more specific? I'm assuming you mean some sort of "traditional" outro to the song.... but keep in mind... the Kennedys are anything(and everything) but traditional!
Well, the (excellent !) Strangelings' version of Matty Groves is clearly influenced (directly or not) by Fairport Convention's recording of the song in 1969 with singer Sandy Denny (as is everyone else version, it seems). Fairport used to play a long up tempo instrumental as the second halve of the song to conclude the story.
I suppose the "Outro" is traditionnal in a way, but only since 1969 !
I hate to disagree with ClimbAPineTree below, but the actual name that should be sung is 'Lord Darnell' as per the original, trad lyrics! Many names have been sung by many people on many versions, but I hope this clears up any confusion? Sorry, I know that nobody likes a smart arse! :)
FWIW, when I sing it (usually for myself or a few friends), I use Lord Banner... But the neat thing about trad is that you don't have to sing it the way anyone else does.
There are differnt versions of names. The lyrics I have say that its actually Lord Arlen. It varies. the first time i heard it in my brit lit class, i thought they were saying Lord Donald, but then we got the lyrics and it said Arlen. needless to say we were all wtf.
Isn't it traditional to sing 'Lord Arnold'? The never-ending original and the Fairport Convention cut down version is 'Lord Arnold', unless I am deluded. Who is this 'Lord Donald' interloper?!?!?
Hmmmm..... being the Yank that I am..... this never occurred to me... a quick google search of "matty groves lyrics" brings up all sorts of variations of the name... and if you listen they all are near rhymes..
He he, that's funny. Wiki has this to say "Lord Arlen, Lord Daniel, Arnold, Donald, and Barnard" and also says that Matty Groves is sometimes "Little Musgrave". That's what you get form songs which are learned by word of mouth, I guess.
There we go, we learn something new every day. I learned it as 'Lord Arnold' but, hells bells, why not change the name every time you sing it within one song?
@thetopbird Actually, Fairport Convention's version says "Lord Donald". I don't honestly know what the "traditional" version is, as a lot of names have been used in the song throughout the years.
This is the very first time (first song even) that fiddler Eric Lee ever played with The Strangelings. He wowed the band enough to be immediately invited to play the rest of The Strangelings' performances at the Falcon Ridge Festival. He's now a full-fledged member of the band! Note that this is an acoustic performance...no microphones or sound system. The only electronics are a small amp that Pete used with his electric sitar, and Ken Anderson's small bass amp. Thanks for posting this video.
"Great" I'm a long standing fan of Fairport Convention, seen them live countless times from the early seventies, is it Arnold, Donald or whatever, it doesn't really mater, i think this lot are absolutely inspiring, any criticism is superfluous.
aaaaaaaaaaiiiiii... chegou adoer na minha alma este som... chorei e tudo ... muito bom... viva viva....
HumbertoPoubel 2 months ago
Cool, but slightly weird with an American accent - to my ears :)
THEkendarkness 5 months ago
check out the Mckrells doing this
SmartAssWelshman 9 months ago
A very similar tune, even sharing some lyrics with Little Musgrave.
bealmor1963 11 months ago
Look - better: listen - what the gospel can bring you to ;). Very nice version. Many thanks.
pipier100 1 year ago
they are great on it
hildchen11 1 year ago
There is a house in New Orleans they call the rising sun....
And now you know where the tune for House Of The Rising Sun came from,
Matty Groves
boothl232 1 year ago
they are singing lord arnold. and i love them
hildchen11 1 year ago
some also sing Lord Arlen... what's the traditional rendering?
paritoshpant 1 year ago
nice but just not right with an american accent.
19stjohn67 1 year ago
I'm back for another look, still great!
MITCHWILD 1 year ago
i love it. i watch it sometimes. i used to play it on the guitar also. very greatly done.
hildchen11 2 years ago
That's a great take on it, full of energy, the song lives on!
raysteer 2 years ago
The little blonde wins it for me.
She is the main one to portray any stage presence and has a sense of dynamics - volume wise.
MiMaKBaSS 2 years ago
Fairly good actually.
IAmTheWoodenDoors 2 years ago
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MITCHWILD 2 years ago
Apparently it's an electric Sitar! well i never.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
Blondie is a bit of a stage-hog, huh? Practically pushing people out of her way!
jenerikuser 2 years ago
Ha....she's short so she has too, arent they all the same.
I'll bet she decides what music they will be playing, and who does what and when.
actually, i have to be honest here, she's my favorite.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago 2
Where is Annie?
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
One question, who's on the drum?
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
Fantastic band. As a teenager, when I heard A Sailor's Life, I was astonished.Then I heard Matty Groves. Amazing.
Richard Thompson is our best ever guitar player. Move over Eric Clapton.
katkinsful 2 years ago
We are in total agreement, RT is the most talented guitarist this country has ever produced.
My favorite tune at the moment is Tam Lin, it may be a three chord trick, but it's not what you play, it's how you play it.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
Are they singing "Lord Donald"? i think they are, It's" Arnold "actually, but whatever, this was really enjoyable, one i will watch again many times, well done all of you.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
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bulakaiser 2 years ago
Astonishing!
Well done. I am mesmerised. You have recaptured my amazment as a teenager when I first heard Fairport's incredible version of this song.
Fairport - get these wonderful people to Cropredy!!!
zensho1 2 years ago
Love it seen fairport a few times and this has to be said is an equal at the least
pjingrey 2 years ago
my MOST favorite version of this song ever!!!
GremlinMayer 2 years ago
ha. i agree. as proud as i am to be american, it is kinda lame for us to pretend to have a "noble history, etc." i envy europe its rich history and lore. this is by far my favorite version of matty groves
Qwil010 2 years ago
It's so cute to see the Americans giving it a go - you never know, in a few hundred years they may have a history to sing about!
fracturedminds 3 years ago
Actually, the mountain and hill country of the American South remains largely the descendents of Celtic immigrants (and much of the rest of it remains Anglo-Saxon). American folk, bluegrass, country, all have authentic Celtic and English roots.
LTF6161 2 years ago
"Well said, my American Cousin".
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
To be honest,I think I like more this version of "Matty Groves" then the Fairport Convention. You are great!
godzilaxs 3 years ago
good version but c'mon, sandy denny sang it like she was IN the story . and richard thompson probably was the best at making electric guitars modern and traditional at the same time
ajdicks 2 years ago 2
Yeah.........possibly?
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
Whew, that was awesome, lots of raw power. Folk music (whatever that is) as it should be. I love the twangling guitar sound; is that a Rickenbacker that the guy in the back is holding?
Tsugaheterophylla 3 years ago
The guy at the back has a Danelectro Bass Guitar, the "twangling" is coming from an electric Mandolin Guitar, sound great.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
Hell Hell Yes! That's an awesome sound!
Syliviel 3 years ago
Wow.
That's not only how folk should sound...but how it should be performed.
Great rendition of one of my favourites. Thanks!
wesmatron 3 years ago 2
Sounds great looks poor.
FLHTP07 3 years ago
The gangly gal in the blue dress needs a stage presence class as its unclear what (if anything) she contributes to this very fine group. The other two girls could get a lot more out of their harmonies if they worked at it. But all in all some really good (as in awesome) talent on display considering the setting likely medicore recording technology available.
GEOHHADDAD 3 years ago
She contributes a wonderful and powerful voice. Listen to her contribution towards the end. Yes, she is shy. But she need not be. Her voice says it all.
All in all, well done. A brilliant version. Powerful, emotional.
zensho1 2 years ago 5
Yes i agree, i wonder if she should have a Tambourine or something, she has two free hands.
No need to be shy, i really enjoy this and watch it often.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago
On my music sheets by fairport its donald!
I LOVVVVVVE this song
amethystmyst 4 years ago
Oh, Think Fairport sing 'Arnold'(?) Whatever, this is a damm good song/version.
For some fun try downloading 'The Kipper Family' version of 'Fatty Groves' - enjoy.
PS: You can always tell a Folkie - but you can't tell 'em much! :)
surreal12 3 years ago
hehehe Fairport have done both :D
Leige and Leif in 1960s was lord donald but the recent tour had it as lord arnold!
Either way aweosme song!
dododung 3 years ago
both lord Arnold (whom I was taught) and Mattie Groves have numerous aliases in so many versions of this song that it is not possible to tell which is really the first, the song had already been around a long long time before the earliest broadsides, and there were already several versions then, so who knows what is actually tradition, as for this, it is basically a gypsy sounding version of the Fairport Convention version of the song (though quite exquistite)
NardolTheElf 4 years ago
where is the outro???
thinklemonthink 4 years ago
ok..... now I'm intrigued! The Outro? Could you be more specific? I'm assuming you mean some sort of "traditional" outro to the song.... but keep in mind... the Kennedys are anything(and everything) but traditional!
georgegreen45 4 years ago
more likely the liege and lief outro, look up the FC version of this song, it's about eight minutes long
NardolTheElf 4 years ago
@georgegreen45
Well, the (excellent !) Strangelings' version of Matty Groves is clearly influenced (directly or not) by Fairport Convention's recording of the song in 1969 with singer Sandy Denny (as is everyone else version, it seems). Fairport used to play a long up tempo instrumental as the second halve of the song to conclude the story.
I suppose the "Outro" is traditionnal in a way, but only since 1969 !
jaevr 8 months ago
Great version of a great song.
beccawecca1987 4 years ago
I hate to disagree with ClimbAPineTree below, but the actual name that should be sung is 'Lord Darnell' as per the original, trad lyrics! Many names have been sung by many people on many versions, but I hope this clears up any confusion? Sorry, I know that nobody likes a smart arse! :)
newboyandy 4 years ago
FWIW, when I sing it (usually for myself or a few friends), I use Lord Banner... But the neat thing about trad is that you don't have to sing it the way anyone else does.
Celtjew 4 years ago
There are differnt versions of names. The lyrics I have say that its actually Lord Arlen. It varies. the first time i heard it in my brit lit class, i thought they were saying Lord Donald, but then we got the lyrics and it said Arlen. needless to say we were all wtf.
ClimbAPineTree 4 years ago
Are they singing 'Lord Donald'?
thetopbird 4 years ago
Yes. They are singing, "Lord Donald!" Thanks for watching!
-G
georgegreen45 4 years ago
Isn't it traditional to sing 'Lord Arnold'? The never-ending original and the Fairport Convention cut down version is 'Lord Arnold', unless I am deluded. Who is this 'Lord Donald' interloper?!?!?
thetopbird 4 years ago
Hmmmm..... being the Yank that I am..... this never occurred to me... a quick google search of "matty groves lyrics" brings up all sorts of variations of the name... and if you listen they all are near rhymes..
Thanks for bringing this up!
-G
georgegreen45 4 years ago
He he, that's funny. Wiki has this to say "Lord Arlen, Lord Daniel, Arnold, Donald, and Barnard" and also says that Matty Groves is sometimes "Little Musgrave". That's what you get form songs which are learned by word of mouth, I guess.
There we go, we learn something new every day. I learned it as 'Lord Arnold' but, hells bells, why not change the name every time you sing it within one song?
thetopbird 4 years ago
Not sure I like the sound of 'Lord Barnard', he sounds far too smooth, even orse than 'Lord Donald' who sounds like a comedy noble!
Chin chin!
thetopbird 4 years ago
@georgegreen45
@thetopbird
Sandy Denny (who recorded Matty Groves with Fairport Convention) sang "Lord Darnell".
Truly it doesn't matter as long as it works (IMO).
Lord Darnell himself ;-)
jaevr 8 months ago
@thetopbird Actually, Fairport Convention's version says "Lord Donald". I don't honestly know what the "traditional" version is, as a lot of names have been used in the song throughout the years.
DShiflet01 10 months ago
We sing it as Lord Donald and have done for 15 years!! First heard it 20 years ago sung by Manticore...
thanks for posting this! We've so far found about 30 different versions of the song - it's one of our favourites!
CassyandCraig 4 years ago
I believe it's "lord Darnell"...
Inglorien 4 years ago
I was at this historic performance. A memorable 'welcome to Falcon Ridge' on a hot Thursday afternoon!
ksbeditor 4 years ago
This is the very first time (first song even) that fiddler Eric Lee ever played with The Strangelings. He wowed the band enough to be immediately invited to play the rest of The Strangelings' performances at the Falcon Ridge Festival. He's now a full-fledged member of the band! Note that this is an acoustic performance...no microphones or sound system. The only electronics are a small amp that Pete used with his electric sitar, and Ken Anderson's small bass amp. Thanks for posting this video.
pmkennedy 4 years ago
"Great" I'm a long standing fan of Fairport Convention, seen them live countless times from the early seventies, is it Arnold, Donald or whatever, it doesn't really mater, i think this lot are absolutely inspiring, any criticism is superfluous.
Six stars.
MITCHWILD 2 years ago