Obama or McCain? Some say neither

[diakr0n]

being a democrat is a good racket... tell the financial institutions that if they don't loan to poor people who can't afford a home that you'll regulate and steal every dime they have... then when the ponzi scheme collapses, blame capitalism and republican "greed"... and then "fix" the economic problem with MORE government regulation and coercion (the antidote is the poison)... certainly a fantastic model for power when a country is full of imbeciles.

[iamdasire]

lol.... below me is a comment war.....lol

you cant change the mind of a stranger

[1293i]

Certainly, americans sponsor the antirussian regimes, they establish a radar in eastern europe! Americans spend great money for maintenance of the pro-American propaganda in the European media. Expenses for war in Iraq and Afghanistan, also sponsoring of other microconflicts in world - these are huge expenses! But Bush's government has thought up as to avoid criticism, they have organised an economic crisis!

[Xproletariatx]

I can assure you that majority of Americans disagree with the current US government policies. Its just that the left wing movements in the US are not strong enough to organize on a mass basis consisting of the millions of US citizens who are discontent with the way the country and the world is going. Im a revolutionary socialist who resides in Richmond VA, US and I can tell you personally from my experience in organizing that majority of Americans are fed up, but we feel powerless to act.

[tnafever]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, homeless cannot vote anyways. You have to have permanent address on your driver's license.

[johnknoefler]

You are wrong. Any one can get a driver's license by just using a paid for mail box "suite". BTW Florida sucks. Too hot. Too humid etc.

[Schwoorf]

just vote for both of them

usa is passe'e anyway

[poleofdestiny]

McFail & Failin :)

[hoktula]

hahaha ! 100 kudos 2 u, dude !

watch?v=6dqsNrmXgP0

(George Carlin - On Voting)

[hoktula]

hahaha

"turd world country" - I like that !

unfortunately, yes, it does.

[Signor007]

Such places in the USA of thousand and thousand)))... Also is necessary to remember the USA "have won cold war"

[hoktula]

"Cold war" (pretty much as most of US proxy wars) was mostly a war fought by US and Western big corporations who were scared sh1tless of the prospective that "Communism" (in reality - Socialism) will win and their assets nationalized. and they have created a HUGE propaganda machine, which morphed itself into present day MSM to instigate the fear and hatred of Russia.

so, yes, they 'won' the Cold war - but those who profited were corporations, not american ppl !

[hoktula]

all that paranoia and seemingly unexplainable hate for Russia is still there, deeply ingrained into American psyche, even though SU disintegrated almost 20 years ago now.

but it is impossible to change the framework and directive of MSM, as well as "un-zombie" (or rather "re-zombie" ? ) americans - to change their attitude - so soon. perhaps it'll take few generations. that is IF neo-cons influence is curbed ! which I think is very unlikely even if Obama wins. neo-cons & CFR OWN US !

[hoktula]

that's why in Aug we saw the latest tidal wave of russia-bashing. coz it is sufficient only for 'invisible conductor' (as CFR and MSM bosses as Murdoch) to wave their stick - and a whole bunch of eager Russia-bashers instantly join the freaking chorus ! o^0

they've been schooled for too long. and they've had a lack of action lately, during past post-SU years :) and I bet they miss it so ! imagine - not being able to have steady reliable object of ... HATE for so long!

[hoktula]

they miss Cold War so much. it gave steady contracts for both MSM and mil.-indust. complex, not to speak of many others.

and 'war or terror' or 'war on drugs' is no match for that ! it helps them a bit, but doesn't give they 'full time job'.

that's why this whole Georgia affair started. and it will continue sooner or later. it is just a beginning. coz Russia has vast resources AND it doesn't allow its banking system or its currency to be taken over ! so, it'll be dealt with.

[hoktula]

ironically even though they have 'won' the Cold War - they have ultimately lost to ... socialism ! hahahahaha

coz what's happening now in US many call a 'socialism for the rich'. but if take into consideration Patriot Act, Homeland security bill and other sh1t which decreased American Constitutional Liberties almost to nil - perhaps Communist China is even better. or Vietnam. I'm not sure about N.K. and Cuba - but I guess US is getting there pretty soon. :)

[skydogz1]

If Obama is elected, I think Michelle will take action for these neighborhoods. If McCain is elected, his plan to keep people in thier homes seems like a good one.

[iamartem]

Oh, my God!

The real life in USA is so terrible!

Oh, yes it's not hollywood films lol:))))

I can't imagine how people live in this rubbish?

[SnowBlind853]

Actually this is one town not the whole US. But places like this exist, and are not uncommon.

[paulsviplist]

If you realy look at those people in the video you can almost see how lazy they look.

All they need to do is get a bucket of soap, water, and go wash some cars for people.

I live here in Flordia and I just work part time 25 hours per week doing sales and life is good.

If life is so much better in Russia just let me know and I will move their.Because I hear the girls are nice :)

[AtilladHun]

paulsviplist, thousands of beautiful Russian doctors, scientists, engineers are waiting for you at many mail order bride web sites. If you like the P4P (Pay for Play) kind, Russian women are all over Europe prostituting themselves. Just ant to watch a triple XXX video with Russian women on it? There's plenty, Moscow and SPB are now the porn industry capital of the world, replacing San Fernando Valley, California! Why? Life in Russia is fucking so good!!

[hoktula]

well, certainly in US women r not "prostituting" themselves ;)

sure! there it is called 'free love' (if u f888ck anything whatever moves, in any holes as many times as u r able to - it is not a prostitution, as long as u don't charge money for that LOL :) )

but then, it is understandable - they r too fat and freaking ugly to be "marketable" :)

BTW search some vdos about yank women going to Caribbeans for sex-tourism ;) I think Lonely planet channel has some clips.

[valkyrieQueensrf50lb]

They should show Detroit is worse then this village.

[Desolator1]

oh man I have a friend who went there recently and yea, you walk there with your back to the wall. US government takes away factories and most jobs (to China) so people have nothing left to do but crime.

[7nevski7]

am i beeing blocked?

its not propaganda, real people, real places,real difficult, real problem, how can you guys deny these people.and said its a propaganda.

[igorvasilevsky]

Because they are brainwashed morons, who only know that if Russia - that, of course, propoganda, even if facts deny it.

[7nevski7]

ok , don`t mad at me please :(

[Jharadon89]

I feel like this is a poor representation of America......for every one town like this there are atleast 10 booming well founded towns. Every city has a rough area so to speak, and as for who should be president. Neither really appeal to me. Both come from High Society and don't understand what its like just bein an Average American. Russia......just like we don't know you, you don't know us.

[hoktula]

dude, the thing is - there are a lot of russian and russian-speaking ppl (from all over foremer SU) who live permanently or regularly in US. and they tell us ! my friend lives there at least 10 years, and due to his job, he has to visit American country side very often. so, it is from him that I've learned the American slang word for those places - mind you, American themselves call it so ! - "sh1tholes" !!!

so, oh yeah - we DO know you.

but I agree that you don't know us.

[hoktula]

I mean, honestly - how many (either in numbers or percentage from Russian population) Americans live in Russia ? like moved there permanently and live their daily lives in Russia, mingle with ordinary russian people?

yeah, there are few professionals who work there coz their companies sent them, or coz for their biz. fewer yet are those who r like Anisa (RT reporter) went there to study art or something.

but MAJORITY of Americans r still PARANOID about everything Russian !

[hoktula]

while the number of russian (by ethnicity, or now by citizenship) or russian-speaking (pretty much most of all 15 SU states) living in US are huge ! and many of them still have relatives or friends back in Russia, and share with them their personal 1st-hand experience about REAL life in US.

therefore, once again - we DO know you, much more than you could think. while you know us to much lesser extent, which makes it fair to say what you've said: "we don't know you"...

[hoktula]

and this Paranoia goes on and on.

recently it was announced the remake of 1984's movie "Red dawn" - which has scared a sh1t of americans then. now coincidentally, with new wave of russia-bashing, some guys in US somehow has decided to REMAKE this moive - why do you think ?

feardepartment. com/2008/09/red-dawn-remake-in­-works. html

watch?v=YDIYbNAEf1s

watch?v=MGNZzyjEfSE

[SovietWarrior]

This US state looks like Haiti to me. Piss poor, lost, without any future. Just as expected in other words.

Good to see that Russia fights back again in the ideological warfare spectrum.

PS. The commentator is a real Russian sweatheart!

[hoktula]

Anastasia Churkina :)

(Nastya - short)

to me though she looks quite ordinary

I like Anisa more. there are others too.

[hoktula]

russiatoday. com/employee/58

[hoktula]

these look better:

(just change the last number in that link I gave u already)

Katerina Azarova 3, Oksana Boyko 7, Yulia Bokova 50, Marina Dzhashi 13, Aleksandra Kosharnitskaya 25, Yulia Shapovalova 42,

Natalya Soboleva 47

few others who'r not russians but no less gorgeous: Alice Hibbert 23, Paula Slier 45,

Charlotte 28, Anissa Naouai 34

u asked about Sophico Shevardnadze (43) ?

yeah, I guess she does look like Churkina a bit ! :)

[ovadafone]

liberty city was created by squaters who took advantage of an old law .the guy in the interview invited all the homeless people to come and try and steal the property they were squating on .and they were pressing the gov for free money and support .they stole the land they are on.

[hoktula]

dude, what's so surprising about it?

isn't whole US exactly same like that -

"stole the land they are on" ? ;)

what makes this town any worse than all other in this regard? some sort of "thieves code of honor"? "we've stolen alone - but from now one let's not steal from one another...."

LMAO

[honesthans]

The US government is different from the US people. Anyway, if everyone who's government ever stole land no longer had a right to live in their house, everyone in the world would pretty much be homeless. That includes American indians who were doing a really great job of killing, enslaving and stealing each other's land before whites even got here. Of course the people who paid for their houses and take pride in them don't want a horde of squaters on their street. Would you?

[hoktula]

"American indians who were doing a really great job of killing, enslaving and stealing each other's land before whites even got here."

that's total pure propaganda BS you've been "zombized" to believe in !

yes, they fought. but they had RESPECT for any kind of life, which includes their enemies. most often their fights were without real killing - enemy would be considered defeated simply if his rival TOUCHED him.

[honesthans]

You mean that the Sioux didn't steal lands from the Crow tribes, killing many of them in the process? If you think that the indians are apart and separate from the proclivities of the rest of humanity, you are the one has bought into the propaganda. You seriously believe the indians were the bunch of proto hippies that you are describing? Why do you care, btw? Are you even indian?

[hoktula]

and yes, they sort of had slaves - who in reality were treated as much part of household as one's own family members, and usually after serving for some period of time (like POW who are used to rebuild country they attacked) - they were set free and returned to their own tribe.

[honesthans]

Well, it seems we agree that indians fought, enslaved and killed each other and took each other's land. So what exactly are you so pissed off about?

[hoktula]

they fought - yes, but never mass-slaughter others or methodically exterminated them or placed into "reservations" (aka concentration camps). they neither used germs to reduce the population of those they fought with. and neither sterilized the women of their foes. and didn't do many other things which white ppl did to them - which all can be described by single word GENOCIDE.

about slaves - as I've already explained that practically it wasn't a slavery at all.

I'm pissed at hypocracy

[honesthans]

Uh huh.. Have you ever heard of the Aztecs by any chance? You're explanation of how slavery was barely slavery at all was indeed very impressive, and it was surely just like you said. I'm sure the people they enslaved would have been incredibly cheered and heartened to learn that they were barely slaves at all. Why don't you now explain why blacks and Turkish galley slave were hardly slaves?

And who's a hypocrite? I just don't buy this noble savage bullshit you're selling.

[honesthans]

Tell me, you really believe that indians are some kind of pure, angelic people completely set apart from the habits that rest of humanity have practiced since the beginning of recorded history?

[marissacalderon]

This is a great video. I always watch media from foreign countries, they are more on top of REAL news than the American media.

[7nevski7]

in 1;57

the insect on his hat, he made it from the coconut leafs...so creativ that guy :D

[sugarpuddin88]

Gimme a break!

The USA has only one more choice than the old Soviet Russia

As long as soulless corporations can legally bribe politicians, you can't have a democracy!

In 1994 Dole & Clinton forged a rule to block anyone but Republicrats and Democins from running

[nrouslan]

crazy housewife Palin with her sadistic tendencies.vivat Palin!!

[sherribailey75]

great story. i had no idea about this area. so sad and scary. although i'm voting for obama, he was not my first choice. my first choice was kucinich, but he unfortunately dropped out.

[katiatomsk]

This is Russian propaganda. Communist did this during USSA. They put out pictures of bad places in USA to make Russian people believe they were better off under USSR. Be careful about voting over Russian choice for president.

[sherribailey75]

What is the propaganda exactly? This is a real town with real people. America hides its poor, there is no doubt about that. Tucks them away out of sight. Of course, this is an important, relevant story. Yes, these people are suffering. I feel sorry for them. Yes, I think it's absolutely crucial that Obama wins, but I can understand why they would be skeptical. Do I think that Obama is absolutely the best thing ever. No. But he's a hell lot better than McCain, that much I know.

[honesthans]

Context. It isn't representative of the reality that the vast majority of Americans live on a daily basis. We are still one of the wealthiest, luckiest countries on earth despite everything our government has been doing to change that. This is old time Pravda with a slick, barely perceptible accent. I say this even though, for the record, I am pro-Russian.

[sherribailey75]

Ok, first off, I am Russian. I was raised in 80s Soviet Russia, so I know all about anti-American propaganda. THIS story is NOT propaganda, that much I can assure you of. It is reporting, and very accurate, real and useful reporting by quality journalists (the reason I subscribe to this channel). Just like right now, American media doesn't widely publicize stories of the casualties of Americans in the war in Iraq, it won't report on abject poverty like this in America. But RussiaToday will.

[honesthans]

Okay, the Irish name and the English proficiency had me thinking otherwise. My point wasn't that this video was a fake. But it is showing a place that is geographically, culturally, ethnically and linguistically very different from where most Americans live. Won't people who don't live here think, "wow, what a dungheap America is" and don't you think that was what the producers intended? You can see comments like that here already.

[sherribailey75]

No, people watching this won't think that America is a dungheap (who thinks that, realistically?), because the report is showing an isolated area -- and they make it quite clear in the report by stating the population and location. Intelligent people watching it should be able to say, Wow, yes, America is going through an economic crisis right now and areas like this one are getting hit especially hard. I, for one, watch this and want to help.

[hoktula]

I agree 100% !

I for one do not think so. and I am sure that there are a lot many others as me who would simply view it as it is: just one individual case, separate example.

and thanks for your proper attitude. I share your reaction to this video. but unfortunately there is not much we can do physically. but at least we can help in other way - to create an AWARENESS - that not everything so perfect in US, and perhaps better it stopped "police the world" (Ron Paul) and try clean its yard 1st

[hoktula]

that's I think the main point of this video: that instead of whoever future PUS (I like this cool word !) is, Obama or McCain, they better at least divert part of US funds to helping towns like this - instead of sending billions to some "democratic" countries (which in reality are mostly brutal dictatorship regimes).

otherwise at least they should shut up and stop lecturing the rest of the world about 'human rights', 'freedom and prosperity' and other BS slogans

[honesthans]

Well, the comments so far make me a little nervous about that, but you could very well be correct. It should be okay as long as it's a distinction that intelligent people are able to make..

[hoktula]

well, I understand what u r saying, and perhaps I might even agree with you to some extent:

that this video gives an impression of some message which can be categorized as "generalization based on selective evidence".

that's the MOST it can be accused of - certainly not a propaganda.

however I think the video itself is not presented as "selective evidence", but merely as a single separate footage. and it mostly depends on the perception of viewers how they'll react to it.

[hoktula]

"We are still one of the wealthiest, luckiest countries on earth "

that's the whole point - you're MADE to believe all this ! do yourself a favor, do some youtube search, say for Max Keiser's videos. of for words as GDP, consumer

"welthiest"? your whole economy is FAKE ! it is a huge bubble which already burst and sh1t started flying all over. Wake up, dude !

your GDP has been NEGATIVE for min last 4-5 years! your debt is UNMATCHED in the world !

u only CONSUME using CREDIT money !

[honesthans]

It's just a fact that the US has strong fundamentals in terms of geography, natural resources, population, liberties and freedoms etc. which other nations lack. These things will still be here after the depression. Do you see any other nation overtaking the US in the mean time? We are not the only country with these problems and many of the world's largest economies(China, Japan)are heavily invested in and dependent on exporting to the US market.

[hoktula]

yeah, sure !

so, let me guess - Russia has also staged this whole town I guess, like some big Hollywood movie studio?

or perhaps they bribed everyone in that town to say the pre-planned words ?

so freaking unbelievable u r ! whatever happens - it's someone else' fault, right ? certainly not US' own. "external enemies"

[Rogue2373]

Nader/Gonzalez '08 for the people!

No more corporate welfare.

No more making money on people's health.

No more military industrial complex.

Enact a living wage.

For more info visit votenader(dot)org.

[truthvspropaganda]

they arent helping poor Americans, BUT they can send a billion $ to Georgia ha, classic. shows how much our government 'cares', what bullcrap.

[acooca123]

Because helping Georgians will give them "profit" from a international point of view and helping those poor Americans...... well as the reporter said, no profit.

It's sad to see what American government has become.

[truthvspropaganda]

oh i know lol trust me i know! but most people here just dont care and thats fine, cause the US economy is in the crapper and our $ is on life support. so maybe then they are in those peoples shoes, homeless and hopeless, maybe then they'll care!

[hoktula]

precisely !

everything US does is for profit or for PR scores (propaganda) which eventually anyway leads to profits.

do youtube search for word Lacotah (or Russel Means) - the native people who've been thoroughly exterminated even after WWII, that is 2nd half of 20th century. Russel says that Hitler has taken his idea of concentration camps from US - indian reservations !

US government is shamelessly hypocritical !

they exterminate their natives and pretend "liberating" Iraqis

[hoktula]

well, that's not profitable :)

I recall that Hugo Chavez was doing some welfare activities in US ghettos - like giving away for free some hitting oil ...

[Arelak]

Vote Bob Barr!!! Both parties will screw you over!

[warcraft1920]

Fuck that I would never vote for barr. have you even read his policys? The guys a nut bag. Barr and Nader are both idiots.

[x11115]

there's a bunch of lowlifes in florida. that's where they sent cuba's undesirables. the blacks there are also lowlifes. they are not like the blacks the live cleanly like washing after themself and acting like a respectable human. i've been a truck driver and there's no reason not to wash up and stuff and you don't have to act filthy.

[hoktula]

Florida always has been a haven for run away slaves from Carolinas. Indians were giving them shelter and Spanish who controlled this land were giving them freedom.

about washing - I think it is your simply ranting. it is very insignificant point. coz I am pretty sure that you can find MUCH MORE white Americans who are even more filthy - but you do not judge the whole white race as such. so, it is your hasty generalization then, nothing else.

[honesthans]

No, it's true. Cuba dumped all it's mental patients and convicts on us. American presidents have to be hardline anti-Cuban if they want votes in Florida. Also, do you know how long it's been since Florida was governed by Spain? How many of these people look like Seminole indians to you? And if you want to see what happens to an area when the white people leave, check out any of the many "ruins of Detroit" videos on this website. Sorry, but it's true.

[BabyEagle4U]

Vote Chuck Baldwin. Ron Paul approved.

[x11115]

if i were to vote i would vote for an independent or ron paul but he's not in it.. forget obama what a joke. this guy is just a fast talking used car salesman.

[x11115]

sorry i meant she..

[x11115]

the guy he interviewed lived in florida and can't even speak english.. that's pretty sad.

[hoktula]

well, don't forget that larger part (if not all) of present US has been annexed as a result of conquest.

Florida is not exception - it has bloody history of 3 major wars against Seminole Indians, who were being thoroughly exterminated and deported from their ancestral lands to the West and today numbered no more than 10'000.

so, it is sad indeed - that US has conducted methodical genocide and suppressed those people, and still looks down on them 'oh, they don't speak Engl. !'

[sniper6081]

Vote for a third party candidate. Not the two front runners. Show your support for this country by voting for them.

[kashgurkha]

both candidates suck. but obama is better because he has less chance to start ww3

[katiatomsk]

This is so funny. This is page from USSR Propaganda book. Same kind of garbage the Communists showed to the Russian people to make Russian people believe they were getting a better deal in Russia under communism.

Now they show something to sway votes in the USA to Obama. Do Russian government believe Obama is better for Russian interest??

American people better wake up or learn Russian. It is easier language to learn than English.

[hoktula]

I think u r delusional. at least make some effort and open a dictionary and look for the meaning of word 'propaganda'

or better yet - go to F*cks News to see for yourself :)

and FYI Russian language is #2 hard to learn in the world - that is only after Sanskrit. but since Sanskrit is a "dead" language, not anymore spoken in daily life - that makes Russian #1 hard to learn among spoken languages. ;)

BTW why do you bother to come to RT channel if you despise it so? u can watch Oh'Really

[1diocracy]

Both candidates stink, but Americans should vote for Obama for a number of reasons. One, McCain is traitorous American who puts the interests of Israel before that of his own country.

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." - John McCain

[argyle684]

I guess you haven't seen any of Obama's AIPAC speeches. Not surprising really.

[1diocracy]

Oh, I've seen them. They're now a right of passage in American politics because of crusty old White traitors like McCain. Zionists dictate to America and is politicians. Americas are their cannon fodder and amusement.

[Squirelbutt]

Obama is in the same bed with AIPAC. Did you see that debate? Both were just sucking up to these people. For approval WTH..