@prahduhgee Rakim??? Wtf. Those lyrics are wrong as fuck. I understand listening to a song a getting the words wrong but the letters he states are pretty obvious. Ima g to the r e m l i n, if i wasnt then why would i say i am.
Great debate? Was anyone even on subject of this song? It's about how sage is under a constant lie detector test in this current rap game where its about "keeping it real" and hes questioning the stupidity of keeping things "real". The sort of ambient beat reflects the "not real" theme.
Love the song, and about the debate, good and evil will co-exist as long as people have different values and think differently, and our values are decided by our genes and our upbringing. So good and evil will always co-exist, and our job as humans is to do what we think is good even if others think it is evil, because in the end the only person you need to explain yourself to, the only person you have to live with, is yourself
In a way that makes sense but who's to say what you are doing is write or not because people think differently and something you think is right and good may not necessarily be something they think is right and vice versa. Just a Thought.
Good and evil are never invented. They do in fact compliment each other very well. If society can only see so far on the gray infinitesimal wave that is morality, then evil is good and good is evil. If concepts like rape, murder, theft, and torture were allow in society we would be living amongst devils with demons, but we would never know it ;in fact it would be good.
As one moves further along the spectrum one sees a differentiation,and so one is then not the other, and so invented not.
Well now you're splitting hairs. See, I never said that it takes an evil person to fantasize about evil things from time to time, however I do take a very Kantian stand on my earlier statement that GOOD people cannot ever fantasize about doing evil things. Why would they?
'GOOD people cannot ever fantasize about doing evil things."
Seriously ?!?!?!?!?!
Are you going to sit there and tell me that every altruistic person that ever lived never did or thought of doing something evil, because that's such debunked thought process. Only children live in a utopia of ignorant bliss that you refer to.
Hardly. A good person can think of doing something evil, but he must not "dream" about doing something evil as you before stated. I can sit here and think about killing a baby and still be a good person, but if I were to dream or long to kill a baby, that would certainly make me an evil person.
Don't forget, an evil person can also THINK about doing something evil -but unlike a good person, he will have no problem carrying out such an action, and may even want to.
Is it really so unlikely that there are less good people than evil people in the world? How many of the people you see who could appear to be paragons of goodness may actually be wearing a mask to cover a more sinister face?
The greatest sort of crime is defending yourself from nothing, because it breeds fear and ignorance. Humans are ignorant simply because we eventually die. It doesn't matter if paragons of good are actually evil, because you only control yourself, and not them. Good for the purpose of evil still inspires more good.
How does it not matter? Is not this whole discussion an attempt to establish what defines a good person and what defines an evil person? Don't take a utalitarian stand on this issue, this is a moral question.
Let's take a step back. We've already defined an evil person, now let's settle on a definition for what a good person is.
sorry but it doesn't matter because you are unjustified in claiming someones altruistic actions are for a sinister cause; EVEN if you and everyone else know better.
A good person doesn't care if evil people do good things to get what they want in life they just keep doing the good deeds and never waver; there's you answer.
I'll say it again, it's because you only have control over your own person. If i wanted to drag religion into this (which i really don't) I would say it is god's or karma's job to punish evil people, because none of us are wise enough to fully comprehend the effect of our own supposed retribution.
Possibly others were jealous of the fame she had received and sought to make a name of themselves thinking that they would do just as good as her,but eventually their actions turn into profanities.
Seems unlikely, and obviously if anyone was inspired by Mother Theresa yet turned to nefarious activities for whatever far fetched reason, they did not do as much evil as Theresa did good, for they are unknown. And taking the utilitarian point of view you embrace, if Theresa's actions caused more good than bad, then her actions truly benefited humanity. Furthermore, countless individuals have followed (successfully) in Theresa's footsteps, proving that good can and does inspire good. Correct?
Then if a good person can inspire others to do good, would it not seem counterproductive for a good person to remain nonchalant in regards to evil actions committed by others who could have instead been inspired to do good?
You need to understand that it's a contradiction to try and enforce good. Good deeds must be mimicked and reciprocated. If we both practice non-violence then our bodies are safe, and that is considered good. Lets say that I do not want to practice non-violence,then your pacifism inspires me to hurt.
Bottom line is, if you must fight evil then you always create evils to fight.
Take this for example; you see a young man mug an old ladies purse off of her, you chase the perp and catch him, and wait till the cops come and arrest him. Now the man is given the harshest penalty possible while his two daughters and wife at home starve. Meanwhile the old lady so happens to be a serial killer whom no one expects, and she is never caught.
Karma delt it's blow to the young man for robbing the lady, but you let an even greater evil walk away looking like a saint.
Possibly the most mature and well carried out debate ive ever seen on youtube. one day everyone will be able to disagree without being dickheads to each other.
actually weed is the opposite. short term it seems fine. long term it fucks up your dexterity and long term memory. its all about how the media spins it. did you know ecstacy a class A drug in the uk is actually relatively harmless. less harmful than weed by a mile. but again it depends on the person taking it.
Wrong. It is way worse. Not to mention just by taking it once it goes straight into your spinal bone, but then again so does LSD. However weed does not. You might pick up some anxiety from pot, and yeah it isn't the best thing for your body. But damn is it fun. =)
what do you guys define as straight edge anyways, someone elses definition could be different, and your opinion is bias because you havent smoked pot so you cant say if its bad or not, you can only say what you have heard or sceene, which influenses your opinion, but everyone has a different opinion on everything so go to hell you straight edged mother fucker
i'm straightedge and i have tried smoking pot, and tried smoking cigarettes, and drinking alcohol. coupling how shit it was with how stupid and detrumental it is to both personal health and society, i chose to make the choice to be straightedge. so don't just assume that people who are straightedge have never even touched any kind of substance. we all make mistakes
and yes i just realised how weird that phrase was.. "i chose to make the choice to be straightedge" lol, but yeah im not hating, just voicing my views :)
I'm uncertain how alcohol and weed are detrimental to the entire society. Yes, many people tend to be retarded while under the influence of mind altering substances, but you also wouldn't have music like this if everyone had your views on drugs and alcohol.
I think that there is more of an unchecked taboo on mind altering chemicals than anything. Many substances, especially marijuana, have little effect on your body, as well as your brain in the long term. Take the bad with the good.
I'm not saying that alcohol doesn't fuel certain individuals to act in ways that are detrimental to society. That's obvious; however, I think it has less to do with the actual substance and more to do with our culture's willingness to accept mistakes made while under the influence.
Think about it. The only time you hear someone blame their entire life's failures on alcohol (and get sympathy for it) is when that person is a loser. There are plenty of successful people who indulge in alcohol
Eh, its hard to make a valid point in under 500 characters, but I'll continue to try.
As with any activity alcohol can be destructive. What I see happening is the rotten apples, if you will, are giving a bad name to the rest of those that indulge in alchol. This is the same case with most other activities that can be used in a less than proper way.
There are more of us that are passive, friendly people who don't drink and drive but still love our beer. Its the idiots that kill it for us
So should we frown upon alcohol simply because the idiots are louder about their ignorance than the responsible are about their vice? If so, we should also frown upon any activity that can be seen as possibly detrimental to society. This includes cars traveling faster than 20 MPH, R rated movies, monetary loans, "unclean" music, hell, even sex itself could be seen as detrimental at this point into the population boom.
@TairyHesticles pretty much all things have their pluses and their minuses, so it wouldn't be too wise to outlaw them, though...i don't know, maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible idea to outlaw hell
I'm certainly not promoting a life of constant intoxication, I'm simply stating the facts. Plenty of good can come out of mind altering experiences...just ask anyone who's graduated college and networked at parties.
Both sides of the argument get a bad rep. The people claiming that drugs and alcohol, when used in moderation, can be positive get the rep as slow, dumb stoners or alchies. The other side gets called nerds or losers. Its time to grow up and meet a middle ground.
You make a really good point, I'm just saying it's not really my thing. I guess I was being kinda forceful before with my views, and I think everyone should be entitled to do exactly what they want to do, but it's my choice that I don't do drugs or alcohol etc. And I think we can all agree on the fact that Sage Francis is a genius, whether he uses drugs or not :)
Sorry for the wrong impression I almost certainly gave and thanks for posting :)
Well, I'm talking about the way hallucinogens can be used to treat addiction. If you use hallucinogens for recreation, you are probably desensitizing yourself to the effect, thus losing the medicinal potential of the drug.
I guess some people use drugs for personal growth, I've never needed drugs to grow as a person.
Yes, I certainly think people should bring mindfulness to even their mundane actions in life.
@Jcolinsol hallucinogenics do the most harm for your identity; which isn't good for companies or the government who want you consuming goods to identify yourself
hallucinogenics reveal truth to people, but they are never a prerequisite to understanding those truths; they just make it easier.
A. Why is the sense of self so bad? It seems to have benefited our evolutionary fitness. I wouldn't be so quick to lose it
B. We consume goods in order to maintain and improve our existence. I don't see this as anything to avoid either.
C. Hallucinogens don't reveal "truth", there is no objective truth. What they do is give you an experience that you either do or do not have a preference for
a. the sense of self is bad because there is no such thing as the self. It is a virtual construction to keep consciousness intact.
b. Sidhartha (Buddha) would be able to give you a better answer than I, but I was referring to how people buy things to show to other people "who they are"
a. Why bother inventing good and bad when they clearly do no exist. Consciousness emerged, it's neither good nor bad, it simply is (or seems to be). I rather enjoy my consciousness, so you'll pardon me for making the most of it.
b. Buddha would have told you that suffering arises out of failed aspirations. People want things because that is how they are structured. There was never any mirror, so where did the dust alight?
Apparently some tribal societies make us of hallucinogenic drugs, as well as evoking hallucinatory experiences via fasting etc..., as part of coming of age rituals. The result is that the users become more "responsible" members of the tribe.
Likewise hallucinogens have been shown to be useful for clinical treatment of addiction.
If you are taking drugs as leisure, you are probably wasting the experience, if you are using them in a controlled environment as a means of personal growth though....
@prahduhgee Rakim??? Wtf. Those lyrics are wrong as fuck. I understand listening to a song a getting the words wrong but the letters he states are pretty obvious. Ima g to the r e m l i n, if i wasnt then why would i say i am.
SuperEskimo312 1 month ago
omg wat was the debate about??
violet101 5 months ago
someone must of asked Sage to appear on the maury show
grumpysoreolbastard 7 months ago
i was just about to write i love tairy hesticles then i scrolled down to write and it was already the last comment
dcshoes222 8 months ago
i love tairy hesticles.
flymolo50 9 months ago
Props to TairyHesticles. You've posted tons of great music. Thank you so much.
Insanelyrically 10 months ago
TairyHesticles with yet another awesome video
skymantey52 11 months ago
Reading that debate reinstated my hope for humanity.
dripdroptiks 11 months ago
LOL people are so odd.
AbattoirDream 1 year ago
damn i wish this song was longer
EVODesignz 1 year ago
Whats the point of listening to an artist above your comprehension level? Yea excuse me for being the asshole.
deorum987 1 year ago
@deorum987 To improve your comprehension level.
CivilandSimple 11 months ago
@CivilandSimple ...touche. Touche... Consider me humbled...
deorum987 11 months ago
Great debate? Was anyone even on subject of this song? It's about how sage is under a constant lie detector test in this current rap game where its about "keeping it real" and hes questioning the stupidity of keeping things "real". The sort of ambient beat reflects the "not real" theme.
deorum987 1 year ago
I may be a little impaired here, but I do believe he made an allusion to Eminem's 'The Way I am'
tuffnuts11 1 year ago
@tuffnuts11 Jesus that's from Rakim... Eminem paid tribute to the same line.
deorum987 1 year ago
@deorum987 yeh " I'm the R the A to the KIM, if i wasn't then why would i say I am."
Prahduhgee 1 year ago
Love the song, and about the debate, good and evil will co-exist as long as people have different values and think differently, and our values are decided by our genes and our upbringing. So good and evil will always co-exist, and our job as humans is to do what we think is good even if others think it is evil, because in the end the only person you need to explain yourself to, the only person you have to live with, is yourself
Eliminator5700 1 year ago 2
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In a way that makes sense but who's to say what you are doing is write or not because people think differently and something you think is right and good may not necessarily be something they think is right and vice versa. Just a Thought.
Betrayal360 1 year ago
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Eliminator5700 1 year ago
TairyHesticles, you're here too??? jeebus, you seem to psychically know every awesome song i put in the search bar pre-emptively. freaky,
barbariandude 1 year ago 3
@barbariandude wow i see him around alot too lol
Common211 1 year ago
great song
alwaystoolate1 1 year ago
the best of times
grumpysoreolbastard 1 year ago
appologize from evil snow town grenoble from france alpes
montorge42 2 years ago
Good and evil are never invented. They do in fact compliment each other very well. If society can only see so far on the gray infinitesimal wave that is morality, then evil is good and good is evil. If concepts like rape, murder, theft, and torture were allow in society we would be living amongst devils with demons, but we would never know it ;in fact it would be good.
As one moves further along the spectrum one sees a differentiation,and so one is then not the other, and so invented not.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
citricsystemz, an interesting theory, but in all practicality it's not that black and white
jjsax420 2 years ago
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citricsystemz 2 years ago
Bad people do what good people only dream about doing.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
good people dream about doing bad things? i don't think that's what constitutes being a good person.
jjsax420 2 years ago
so by your logic dreaming about doing something illegal makes you an evil person?
Don't split hairs.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Well now you're splitting hairs. See, I never said that it takes an evil person to fantasize about evil things from time to time, however I do take a very Kantian stand on my earlier statement that GOOD people cannot ever fantasize about doing evil things. Why would they?
jjsax420 2 years ago
'GOOD people cannot ever fantasize about doing evil things."
Seriously ?!?!?!?!?!
Are you going to sit there and tell me that every altruistic person that ever lived never did or thought of doing something evil, because that's such debunked thought process. Only children live in a utopia of ignorant bliss that you refer to.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Hardly. A good person can think of doing something evil, but he must not "dream" about doing something evil as you before stated. I can sit here and think about killing a baby and still be a good person, but if I were to dream or long to kill a baby, that would certainly make me an evil person.
jjsax420 2 years ago
Fine then, since you're such a juvenile.
" Evil people do what good people only THINK about doing"
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Don't forget, an evil person can also THINK about doing something evil -but unlike a good person, he will have no problem carrying out such an action, and may even want to.
Is it really so unlikely that there are less good people than evil people in the world? How many of the people you see who could appear to be paragons of goodness may actually be wearing a mask to cover a more sinister face?
jjsax420 2 years ago
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citricsystemz 2 years ago
The greatest sort of crime is defending yourself from nothing, because it breeds fear and ignorance. Humans are ignorant simply because we eventually die. It doesn't matter if paragons of good are actually evil, because you only control yourself, and not them. Good for the purpose of evil still inspires more good.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
How does it not matter? Is not this whole discussion an attempt to establish what defines a good person and what defines an evil person? Don't take a utalitarian stand on this issue, this is a moral question.
Let's take a step back. We've already defined an evil person, now let's settle on a definition for what a good person is.
jjsax420 2 years ago
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citricsystemz 2 years ago
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sorry but it doesn't matter because you are unjustified in claiming someones altruistic actions are for a sinister cause; EVEN if you and everyone else know better.
A good person doesn't care if evil people do good things to get what they want in life they just keep doing the good deeds and never waver; there's you answer.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Why should a good person not care about the actions of those that are evil?
jjsax420 2 years ago
I'll say it again, it's because you only have control over your own person. If i wanted to drag religion into this (which i really don't) I would say it is god's or karma's job to punish evil people, because none of us are wise enough to fully comprehend the effect of our own supposed retribution.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
So only those that are evil can inspire others?
jjsax420 2 years ago
No, because good inspires others to do evil.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Did Mother Theresa inspire others to do evil?
jjsax420 2 years ago
Possibly others were jealous of the fame she had received and sought to make a name of themselves thinking that they would do just as good as her,but eventually their actions turn into profanities.
Just a hypothetical example mind you.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Seems unlikely, and obviously if anyone was inspired by Mother Theresa yet turned to nefarious activities for whatever far fetched reason, they did not do as much evil as Theresa did good, for they are unknown. And taking the utilitarian point of view you embrace, if Theresa's actions caused more good than bad, then her actions truly benefited humanity. Furthermore, countless individuals have followed (successfully) in Theresa's footsteps, proving that good can and does inspire good. Correct?
jjsax420 2 years ago
By all means good also inspires good.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Then if a good person can inspire others to do good, would it not seem counterproductive for a good person to remain nonchalant in regards to evil actions committed by others who could have instead been inspired to do good?
jjsax420 2 years ago
You need to understand that it's a contradiction to try and enforce good. Good deeds must be mimicked and reciprocated. If we both practice non-violence then our bodies are safe, and that is considered good. Lets say that I do not want to practice non-violence,then your pacifism inspires me to hurt.
Bottom line is, if you must fight evil then you always create evils to fight.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
I really don't see any logic in that argument.
jjsax420 1 year ago
its all perspective one mans evil may be someones faith
grumpysoreolbastard 1 year ago
That is a good point
jjsax420 1 year ago
Take this for example; you see a young man mug an old ladies purse off of her, you chase the perp and catch him, and wait till the cops come and arrest him. Now the man is given the harshest penalty possible while his two daughters and wife at home starve. Meanwhile the old lady so happens to be a serial killer whom no one expects, and she is never caught.
Karma delt it's blow to the young man for robbing the lady, but you let an even greater evil walk away looking like a saint.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
That's why good people don't care what evil people do.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Possibly the most mature and well carried out debate ive ever seen on youtube. one day everyone will be able to disagree without being dickheads to each other.
invallidusername 2 years ago 34
On behalf of everyone that took part in the debate, thank you. I hope the debate managed to stay respectful throughout.
TairyHesticles 2 years ago 9
actually weed is the opposite. short term it seems fine. long term it fucks up your dexterity and long term memory. its all about how the media spins it. did you know ecstacy a class A drug in the uk is actually relatively harmless. less harmful than weed by a mile. but again it depends on the person taking it.
skarules111 2 years ago
Wrong. It is way worse. Not to mention just by taking it once it goes straight into your spinal bone, but then again so does LSD. However weed does not. You might pick up some anxiety from pot, and yeah it isn't the best thing for your body. But damn is it fun. =)
devilishbunny666 2 years ago
@invallidusername Impossable
Slode420 1 year ago
well, i think the greeks had the clearest thoughts on this very situation. Use but only in moderation.
tahoekid2225 2 years ago
does anyone else think this guy sounds like the artist BECK?
Spike9458467 2 years ago
No.
TairyHesticles 2 years ago 56
@TairyHesticles Agreed, Sage is in a league of his own.
ratatoskrable 7 months ago
@Spike9458467 Yesss. I think he sounds a lot like Beck in this song.
ACOBBOCA24 1 year ago
@Spike9458467 Actually in this song, he does, quite a lot. Otherwise, not at all
zelar27 9 months ago
@Spike9458467 i could see it ahah
deformographi 7 months ago
@Spike9458467 I sort of see where you're coming from actually but I would'nt go so far as that.
RiggedTheDeck 1 month ago
alcohol is about as detrimental to society as driving
saffron17 2 years ago 3
& i love drinking & driving
LeonNexus6 2 years ago
fresh just fresh........ thats all u gota say g'Z
thedrphro 2 years ago
G to the remlin??? you are the th 0 to ral
bndikt230 2 years ago
...Why? because Im a G to the R E M L I N. If I wasnt then why would I say I am?
tahoekid2225 2 years ago
I completely LOVE that gremlin part
Capandash 2 years ago
i heard part of this tune but i cant put my finger on it
can anyone help? lol
very nice song
Bobby7310 2 years ago
in the world, were these girls got virtual tattoo's
fall4paradise 2 years ago
retro tattoos...
MaskedEmrys 2 years ago
by the way, this song is my favorit blazing song =D
6zombie6autopilot6 2 years ago
what do you guys define as straight edge anyways, someone elses definition could be different, and your opinion is bias because you havent smoked pot so you cant say if its bad or not, you can only say what you have heard or sceene, which influenses your opinion, but everyone has a different opinion on everything so go to hell you straight edged mother fucker
6zombie6autopilot6 2 years ago
i'm straightedge and i have tried smoking pot, and tried smoking cigarettes, and drinking alcohol. coupling how shit it was with how stupid and detrumental it is to both personal health and society, i chose to make the choice to be straightedge. so don't just assume that people who are straightedge have never even touched any kind of substance. we all make mistakes
xantxgx 2 years ago
and yes i just realised how weird that phrase was.. "i chose to make the choice to be straightedge" lol, but yeah im not hating, just voicing my views :)
xantxgx 2 years ago
I'm uncertain how alcohol and weed are detrimental to the entire society. Yes, many people tend to be retarded while under the influence of mind altering substances, but you also wouldn't have music like this if everyone had your views on drugs and alcohol.
I think that there is more of an unchecked taboo on mind altering chemicals than anything. Many substances, especially marijuana, have little effect on your body, as well as your brain in the long term. Take the bad with the good.
TairyHesticles 2 years ago
How can you honestly say you dont see how alcohol is detrimental to society?
BlackMahmba 2 years ago
I'm not saying that alcohol doesn't fuel certain individuals to act in ways that are detrimental to society. That's obvious; however, I think it has less to do with the actual substance and more to do with our culture's willingness to accept mistakes made while under the influence.
Think about it. The only time you hear someone blame their entire life's failures on alcohol (and get sympathy for it) is when that person is a loser. There are plenty of successful people who indulge in alcohol
TairyHesticles 2 years ago
@TairyHesticles very true considering it holds in court.
lawyer: "where were you on Saturday the fifteenth of April at seven thirty AM?"
plaintiff:" i don't know i was drunk"
pretty annoying eh?
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Eh, its hard to make a valid point in under 500 characters, but I'll continue to try.
As with any activity alcohol can be destructive. What I see happening is the rotten apples, if you will, are giving a bad name to the rest of those that indulge in alchol. This is the same case with most other activities that can be used in a less than proper way.
There are more of us that are passive, friendly people who don't drink and drive but still love our beer. Its the idiots that kill it for us
TairyHesticles 2 years ago
So should we frown upon alcohol simply because the idiots are louder about their ignorance than the responsible are about their vice? If so, we should also frown upon any activity that can be seen as possibly detrimental to society. This includes cars traveling faster than 20 MPH, R rated movies, monetary loans, "unclean" music, hell, even sex itself could be seen as detrimental at this point into the population boom.
...just a few things to think about...
TairyHesticles 2 years ago 5
I'm glad we're finally seeing eye to eye.
BlackMahmba 2 years ago
@TairyHesticles pretty much all things have their pluses and their minuses, so it wouldn't be too wise to outlaw them, though...i don't know, maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible idea to outlaw hell
blackmarchudak 1 year ago
I'm certainly not promoting a life of constant intoxication, I'm simply stating the facts. Plenty of good can come out of mind altering experiences...just ask anyone who's graduated college and networked at parties.
Both sides of the argument get a bad rep. The people claiming that drugs and alcohol, when used in moderation, can be positive get the rep as slow, dumb stoners or alchies. The other side gets called nerds or losers. Its time to grow up and meet a middle ground.
TairyHesticles 2 years ago
You make a really good point, I'm just saying it's not really my thing. I guess I was being kinda forceful before with my views, and I think everyone should be entitled to do exactly what they want to do, but it's my choice that I don't do drugs or alcohol etc. And I think we can all agree on the fact that Sage Francis is a genius, whether he uses drugs or not :)
Sorry for the wrong impression I almost certainly gave and thanks for posting :)
xantxgx 2 years ago
Yea, I was sort of being a dick too. Good debate though lol.
Glad that we could come to some sort of agreement. I apologize as well.
Keep listening to good music! Peace.
TairyHesticles 2 years ago
Well, I'm talking about the way hallucinogens can be used to treat addiction. If you use hallucinogens for recreation, you are probably desensitizing yourself to the effect, thus losing the medicinal potential of the drug.
I guess some people use drugs for personal growth, I've never needed drugs to grow as a person.
Yes, I certainly think people should bring mindfulness to even their mundane actions in life.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
@Jcolinsol hallucinogenics do the most harm for your identity; which isn't good for companies or the government who want you consuming goods to identify yourself
hallucinogenics reveal truth to people, but they are never a prerequisite to understanding those truths; they just make it easier.
citricsystemz 2 years ago
I don't know about that
A. Why is the sense of self so bad? It seems to have benefited our evolutionary fitness. I wouldn't be so quick to lose it
B. We consume goods in order to maintain and improve our existence. I don't see this as anything to avoid either.
C. Hallucinogens don't reveal "truth", there is no objective truth. What they do is give you an experience that you either do or do not have a preference for
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
@Jcolinsol
a. the sense of self is bad because there is no such thing as the self. It is a virtual construction to keep consciousness intact.
b. Sidhartha (Buddha) would be able to give you a better answer than I, but I was referring to how people buy things to show to other people "who they are"
c. the truth is that there is no objective truth
citricsystemz 2 years ago
a. Why bother inventing good and bad when they clearly do no exist. Consciousness emerged, it's neither good nor bad, it simply is (or seems to be). I rather enjoy my consciousness, so you'll pardon me for making the most of it.
b. Buddha would have told you that suffering arises out of failed aspirations. People want things because that is how they are structured. There was never any mirror, so where did the dust alight?
c. That's a good best guess.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
the sense of self is everything u dumbdumb
oxfordkingpin24 2 years ago
everything is an illusion
citricsystemz 2 years ago
Apparently some tribal societies make us of hallucinogenic drugs, as well as evoking hallucinatory experiences via fasting etc..., as part of coming of age rituals. The result is that the users become more "responsible" members of the tribe.
Likewise hallucinogens have been shown to be useful for clinical treatment of addiction.
If you are taking drugs as leisure, you are probably wasting the experience, if you are using them in a controlled environment as a means of personal growth though....
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
Sage has made some good music, but I know nothing else about the guy. I guess I should also get really fat and grow a neck beard too.
TairyHesticles 3 years ago
Yeah, I was really surprised when I found out what he looked like in real life.
mychemicalromance811 2 years ago
lol he didnt always look like that......but yea, u should...
jsdrinkinagain 2 years ago
This bowl's for you
Acicid 3 years ago
wow ya im blaze to this is the shit
Javingil 3 years ago
im blazin right now
atvjoel17 3 years ago
i love blazzin buds to this song
rusticus09 3 years ago 4
such a chilllllen ass song
dasca8 3 years ago 5
check out apologize by sage francis feat. sole.. It's good shit.
messator 3 years ago 6
damn,very cool :)5 stars :)
RaZoReDbABe 3 years ago 8
nice
bympy 3 years ago 5