Cartivision was skip field, explains the jumpiness, and tape was crappy back then, look at the dropouts! If someone had deep pockets, chances are they would have bought the cutting edge U-Matic or one of the many reel-to-reel recorders instead of this.
Wow ... The Library of Congress should still have that tape (no machine to play it on) ... I have a copy of game one of the 1973 NL playoffs and I was told it was off Cartivision and the picture looked nowhere was as sharp as the image in the show
I bought a remaindered Cartrivision tape deck and chassis in 1976 for $250 ($931.75 in 2009 bucks). I worked for an American TV manufacturing plant (now there's another anachronism!), and I HAD to, to get this thing running. Only had 4 tape cassettes to serve me until I got VHS in 1980, so not much remains except an interview with my 96-year-old grandmother in '76. BTW, $2,145 in 1972 = $10,877.94 in 2009 (per The Inflation Calculator). O the bad old days!
We had landed on the moon three years earlier...so I find it very sad to think of how far communication technology has advanced-while humans have not returned to the moon since this was made in 1972...very sad...
If someone had one of those machines and taped game shows in the early 1970's he would be in possesion of shows that have long been wiped (destroyed) and would have a gold mine. For the guy with the Qusar Time Machine, what exactly did you tape with it or do you remember?
Well if this format Had become the next big thing, I certainly would have had it! But, no...instead I got suckered into buying the Quasar Time Machine! Now, I have 3 dead machines and a couple hundred huge, clunky tapes that I can't watch!!!!!
In New York, viewers would have originally seen this installment on WCBS-TV (Ch. 2). That station took on the syndie "WML?" beginning in the 1972-73 season, after its first four years on WOR-TV (Ch. 9).
I'm quite surprised by the quality of this video, given the fact that only one frame out of three was recorded on Cartrivision tape. I guess this show has been reissued on a later format using the original broadcast tapes as the video is clearly much better than cartrivision. Am I right ? In any case, GREAT SHOW, GREAT QUALITY, and HOW FUNNY !!!
The only thing recorded on Cartrivision here was the intro seen on the set. The actual video you're watching is from the broadcast master, since aired on GSN.
This was like watching "I've Got a Secret." It wasn't just Henry Morgan's presence. The panel's task was not to guess an occupation, but the secret of what was on the tape. Henry got it fast, perhaps helped by the similarity of the secret to the panel-related secrets on "I've Got ... ." Doing WML five times a week, as opposed to once, required a broadening of the format?
It wasn't just "WML?" whose syndicated version had elements of "IGAS" - so did the syndie "To Tell the Truth" which had actual physical elements of "IGAS," in the form of host Garry Moore and panelist Bill Cullen.
I don't normally add 'bugged' clips to my favorites list, but I had to make an exception for this one. If there's anyone out there who knows how to fix these machines, I may want to pay you to look at mine once I have some money!
Hopefully someone taped the original airing of this show on a Cartrivision, without the annoying GSN bug on the screen!
I've got FOUR of these machines now (detached from the TV consoles), I know 3 don't work and haven't been able to test the 4th yet since I've got new kitties running around the place.
Elvis was impressed - they used to have his "early adopter" tape machine on display at the Graceland Museum-(along with his well-thumbed PDR). Neither was on display the last time I was there. It wasn't from as early as '72 but it was not too long after. Thanks for posting!
There was a black & white reel-to-reel home videotape system in the 60s. It was ridiculously expensive and B&W when color was just catching on so it didn't sell well, but Elvis had one.
P.S. It was such a "show-and-tell" aspect that led to comparisons of the syndie version of "WML?" to "I've Got a Secret," therefore leading to some wisenheimers calling the show "What's My Secret Line?"
This was actually from the onset of the fourth (1972-73) syndicated season; Larry Blyden took over in '72 from original syndicated host Wally Bruner. It's obvious that this was taped at NBC's New York studios, given that on some of the camera angles (they used TK-44A's back then) the blacks were a bit reddish. Other than the year, I'd agree with your assessment that Mr. Daly wouldn't have allowed such show-and-tell demonstrations on "WML?"
I can offer you some further information abiut this episode,so you will have more than just the year of it.
This episode was recorded/videotaped (but not using the CartriVision system, thank goodness) on August 3, 1972.
I can't tell you for sure on which day the episode aired--that would depend in some cases on where one lived, as some locales aired episodes on a more delayed basis than others. But usually five games/episodes were played & recorded per taping date.
Then figure one week to one month after taping for broadcast date.
I ascertained this additional info. because 08/03/1972 was the only taping date on which both Anita Gillette & Henry Morgan appeared together on the "WML? panel in 1972.
Do you happen to have the complete episode from which this segment was obtained, or at least the segment with the Mystery Guest? Because that will prove my information definitively, even though i am reasonably certain without such.
By the way, here (below) is a URL of a website that will be helpful if ever needing to verify info. about the syndicated "WML?" (and through it, also info. about other game shows).
It is a snapshot of a removed website, but still accessible through the Internet Wayback Machine. You may even wish to synchronize the site so as to obtain info. if offline.
Cartivision was skip field, explains the jumpiness, and tape was crappy back then, look at the dropouts! If someone had deep pockets, chances are they would have bought the cutting edge U-Matic or one of the many reel-to-reel recorders instead of this.
NJRoadfan 4 months ago
Great Idea: Being able to record TV shows at home
Bad Idea: The only TV shows at the time were 70's crap TV shows.
MiHiVidz 9 months ago
Soupy Sales!
ricarleite 1 year ago
Wow ... The Library of Congress should still have that tape (no machine to play it on) ... I have a copy of game one of the 1973 NL playoffs and I was told it was off Cartivision and the picture looked nowhere was as sharp as the image in the show
RealAgentOfSHIELD 1 year ago
70s television sucked, just so fucking cheesy/scripted and coked up.
OleVanDole 1 year ago
@OleVanDole
A far cry from today's television programming?
Enigmatism415 1 year ago
@Enigmatism415 Television is definitely better these days.
2010 has been a great year for television, i do agree that some aspects still suck but overall we are better off these days.
No censorship and no monopolistic control over the media means television series that dare criticize modern society.
OleVanDole 1 year ago
I bought a remaindered Cartrivision tape deck and chassis in 1976 for $250 ($931.75 in 2009 bucks). I worked for an American TV manufacturing plant (now there's another anachronism!), and I HAD to, to get this thing running. Only had 4 tape cassettes to serve me until I got VHS in 1980, so not much remains except an interview with my 96-year-old grandmother in '76. BTW, $2,145 in 1972 = $10,877.94 in 2009 (per The Inflation Calculator). O the bad old days!
ecgaskill 1 year ago
I love how relatively recent this was, yet how alien the technology is to them. Progress!
alexvegas 1 year ago
The way "Cassette" is pronounced is hilarious.
johnreagannumber1 2 years ago
"No home will be complete without one." Well, he was right. Except he was 10 years early and backing the wrong device.
torchkit 2 years ago
I wonder how many of those type of cartrivision machines are left.. They're probably incredibly rare.
CassetteMaster 2 years ago
Arlene looks beautiful! I just love her dress!
weatdamal 3 years ago
Great to see stuff from that era. It would be another 10 yrs before I bought my first cam/vcr set-up.
MSTS1 3 years ago
Great piece of history !
Thanks !
CLS2086 3 years ago
THINK ABOUT THIS:
We had landed on the moon three years earlier...so I find it very sad to think of how far communication technology has advanced-while humans have not returned to the moon since this was made in 1972...very sad...
Stereolabdream 3 years ago
Feh... that technology would NEVER catch on!
zkg 3 years ago
If someone had one of those machines and taped game shows in the early 1970's he would be in possesion of shows that have long been wiped (destroyed) and would have a gold mine. For the guy with the Qusar Time Machine, what exactly did you tape with it or do you remember?
storrs19 3 years ago
I remember seeing a demo at Sears in Santa Barbera CA back in 1972 or 73. I was very fascinated with it.
wildbilltexas 3 years ago
Well if this format Had become the next big thing, I certainly would have had it! But, no...instead I got suckered into buying the Quasar Time Machine! Now, I have 3 dead machines and a couple hundred huge, clunky tapes that I can't watch!!!!!
AAGGGHHH, technology!
^^X^^
batman4oz 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing that footage. :)
KGKaiju 4 years ago
In New York, viewers would have originally seen this installment on WCBS-TV (Ch. 2). That station took on the syndie "WML?" beginning in the 1972-73 season, after its first four years on WOR-TV (Ch. 9).
wmbrown6 4 years ago
I'm quite surprised by the quality of this video, given the fact that only one frame out of three was recorded on Cartrivision tape. I guess this show has been reissued on a later format using the original broadcast tapes as the video is clearly much better than cartrivision. Am I right ? In any case, GREAT SHOW, GREAT QUALITY, and HOW FUNNY !!!
videogamehistorian 4 years ago
The only thing recorded on Cartrivision here was the intro seen on the set. The actual video you're watching is from the broadcast master, since aired on GSN.
brithgob 4 years ago
This was like watching "I've Got a Secret." It wasn't just Henry Morgan's presence. The panel's task was not to guess an occupation, but the secret of what was on the tape. Henry got it fast, perhaps helped by the similarity of the secret to the panel-related secrets on "I've Got ... ." Doing WML five times a week, as opposed to once, required a broadening of the format?
prchristman 4 years ago
It wasn't just "WML?" whose syndicated version had elements of "IGAS" - so did the syndie "To Tell the Truth" which had actual physical elements of "IGAS," in the form of host Garry Moore and panelist Bill Cullen.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Larry Blyden always said "That's terrific" after any demonstration on the syndicated "WML?"
byrd56 4 years ago
I don't normally add 'bugged' clips to my favorites list, but I had to make an exception for this one. If there's anyone out there who knows how to fix these machines, I may want to pay you to look at mine once I have some money!
eyeh8cbs 4 years ago
I find those "bugs" useful, and they don't bother me. I don't see why those bugs bother others.
EncoreEnterprisesLLC 2 years ago
Then you're obviously a fucking idiot.,
BugKiller98 2 years ago
What gives you the right to say that? I didn't do anything remotely wrong to you.
EncoreEnterprisesLLC 2 years ago 2
hey cmon over here bugkiller, whats up cmon you need to cmover to my grandmas house and grab a plate
rachelbreaker 2 years ago
Hopefully someone taped the original airing of this show on a Cartrivision, without the annoying GSN bug on the screen!
I've got FOUR of these machines now (detached from the TV consoles), I know 3 don't work and haven't been able to test the 4th yet since I've got new kitties running around the place.
eyeh8cbs 4 years ago
haven't been ABLE? Excuses! Excuses! Now get to work and fix the damn thing!!! LOL!
musicom67 4 years ago
Elvis was impressed - they used to have his "early adopter" tape machine on display at the Graceland Museum-(along with his well-thumbed PDR). Neither was on display the last time I was there. It wasn't from as early as '72 but it was not too long after. Thanks for posting!
HurricaneRhonda 4 years ago
There was a black & white reel-to-reel home videotape system in the 60s. It was ridiculously expensive and B&W when color was just catching on so it didn't sell well, but Elvis had one.
eyeh8cbs 4 years ago
P.S. It was such a "show-and-tell" aspect that led to comparisons of the syndie version of "WML?" to "I've Got a Secret," therefore leading to some wisenheimers calling the show "What's My Secret Line?"
wmbrown6 4 years ago
This was actually from the onset of the fourth (1972-73) syndicated season; Larry Blyden took over in '72 from original syndicated host Wally Bruner. It's obvious that this was taped at NBC's New York studios, given that on some of the camera angles (they used TK-44A's back then) the blacks were a bit reddish. Other than the year, I'd agree with your assessment that Mr. Daly wouldn't have allowed such show-and-tell demonstrations on "WML?"
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Thanks for the info! I'm making a correction. (And the blacks *are* reddish; I hadn't noticed before.)
quadvideotape 4 years ago
I can offer you some further information abiut this episode,so you will have more than just the year of it.
This episode was recorded/videotaped (but not using the CartriVision system, thank goodness) on August 3, 1972.
I can't tell you for sure on which day the episode aired--that would depend in some cases on where one lived, as some locales aired episodes on a more delayed basis than others. But usually five games/episodes were played & recorded per taping date.
gymnastix 2 years ago
Thanks for the information! I don't know who the mystery guest was; I recorded this and didn't keep the entire program. Now I wish I had.
quadvideotape 2 years ago
Then figure one week to one month after taping for broadcast date.
I ascertained this additional info. because 08/03/1972 was the only taping date on which both Anita Gillette & Henry Morgan appeared together on the "WML? panel in 1972.
Do you happen to have the complete episode from which this segment was obtained, or at least the segment with the Mystery Guest? Because that will prove my information definitively, even though i am reasonably certain without such.
gymnastix 2 years ago
By the way, here (below) is a URL of a website that will be helpful if ever needing to verify info. about the syndicated "WML?" (and through it, also info. about other game shows).
It is a snapshot of a removed website, but still accessible through the Internet Wayback Machine. You may even wish to synchronize the site so as to obtain info. if offline.
htto, etc., then--web.archive dotorg/web/20051102193043/doubleya doubleya doubleya.matchgame dotorg/episodeguides/wml/index.html
gymnastix 2 years ago