Yes, thanks for posting this video. I have a very old Canon PC 25 B/W laser copier & I have been successful in transferring the images to clay. I have no problem until I put a glaze over the image. I have tried a clear glaze fired to Cone 6 but the image barely shows through. Is there any glaze that will not wash out the image? Do they always have to be left unglazed?
if the image is still strong after being fired to cone 6 without glaze, then the toner have enough oxide for it to be able to be used in ceramics, if not, then that type of copier's toner is not suitable for this technique. If you want the image still to show, I've been successful with spraying the transfered image with very diluted and a very light coating of transparent glaze...
or transferring the image onto a shino glaze by waiting for the glaze to dry on the bisqued clay than spraying it with a mist of water so that the image will transfer onto the now dampened powdery surface.
the machine powers on, says, hey, the heater is up to temp and carries on normally..
this took a little fiddling, by checking the temp of the fuser at full heat (645 degrees), removing the thermistor and heating it to that temp and measuring it's resistance. (408ohms at 18V). I sued a salvage (ie broken) dumpser dived copier
im sure every model will be diffrent, so you mayt have to experimant
ahh, well, I have sucsessfully disabled the heater circuit, by bypassing the heater with a 60W resistor equivilant to the heater leads and cutting the heater and thermistor out of the cirucuit..
I've also used toner to produce PCB (printed circuit board) layout transfers for transferring onto copper clad boards which works well, even when the image has been fused by printing on to a used label sheet (address labels etc). You need to print on to the waxy side of the used label sheet and then use an ordinary household iron to transfer the image onto whatever you want it transferred to. Never tried this on clay tho, obviously the clay would need to be hard first!
I have. Most copier have an in-build sensor that would show malfunction/error if you mess/disconnect the fuser. I managed to unscrew the fuser and moved it to the side while all the cables are still connected. That seems to work!
@diamony123 from what I understand about laser printers, is that the ink they use is also have high black iron content. They do sell a special paper decal transfer in some specialty ceramic stores. you just print the image you want to transfer like yo do with normal paper, and you soak the paper and rub it on your ceramic piece to transfer the image, and then fire the piece.....
If you disable fuser power the thermistor that reads the heat of the fuser heat roller and as mentioned it will error out. Dependant on the machine design you might be able to remove the fuser while connected but you'd kill the fuser and many machines drive additional systems by the fuser's gears. Pretty much what he did is it, in printer or copier service we call it a half page test and use it to see if the development, transfer or fusing system is at fault by the condition of the image at half
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Interesting. Would have liked to see it after firing also...Supposedly HP laser printers also have iron oxide in the toner and you can use a kind of decal paper with them. I have yet to test it. Thanks for sharing this information!
They all have some amount of iron "developer" powder in them to allow magnetic attraction to the drum then a transfer roller or transfer corona wire reverses that charge to pull it off the drum onto the paper (which is why it takes rubbing to get it to come off rather than falling off if you move it). Older copiers like that have a toner (dry ink) container and a separate "developer" section that usually service people replace. EP cartridges in HP and others are contained in the same cartridge.
Yes, thanks for posting this video. I have a very old Canon PC 25 B/W laser copier & I have been successful in transferring the images to clay. I have no problem until I put a glaze over the image. I have tried a clear glaze fired to Cone 6 but the image barely shows through. Is there any glaze that will not wash out the image? Do they always have to be left unglazed?
aakland 2 years ago
if the image is still strong after being fired to cone 6 without glaze, then the toner have enough oxide for it to be able to be used in ceramics, if not, then that type of copier's toner is not suitable for this technique. If you want the image still to show, I've been successful with spraying the transfered image with very diluted and a very light coating of transparent glaze...
caieros 2 years ago
or transferring the image onto a shino glaze by waiting for the glaze to dry on the bisqued clay than spraying it with a mist of water so that the image will transfer onto the now dampened powdery surface.
caieros 2 years ago
Thanks! I'll try both things.
aakland 2 years ago
what temp did you fire at? Can you show us the piece after firing please.
artranchero 2 years ago 2
cone 10 about 2350 degree fahrenheit. the black toner ink after the firing, turn to a sepia/brownish color.
caieros 2 years ago
the machine powers on, says, hey, the heater is up to temp and carries on normally..
this took a little fiddling, by checking the temp of the fuser at full heat (645 degrees), removing the thermistor and heating it to that temp and measuring it's resistance. (408ohms at 18V). I sued a salvage (ie broken) dumpser dived copier
im sure every model will be diffrent, so you mayt have to experimant
moosestudios 2 years ago
ahh, well, I have sucsessfully disabled the heater circuit, by bypassing the heater with a 60W resistor equivilant to the heater leads and cutting the heater and thermistor out of the cirucuit..
moosestudios 2 years ago
I've also used toner to produce PCB (printed circuit board) layout transfers for transferring onto copper clad boards which works well, even when the image has been fused by printing on to a used label sheet (address labels etc). You need to print on to the waxy side of the used label sheet and then use an ordinary household iron to transfer the image onto whatever you want it transferred to. Never tried this on clay tho, obviously the clay would need to be hard first!
creativestudio3 3 years ago
have you tried disabling the fuser element by dosconnecting the fuiser power supply lead?
moosestudios 3 years ago
I have. Most copier have an in-build sensor that would show malfunction/error if you mess/disconnect the fuser. I managed to unscrew the fuser and moved it to the side while all the cables are still connected. That seems to work!
caieros 3 years ago
@caieros can you find or recommend a color laser that i can accomplish the same technique
diamony123 1 month ago
@diamony123 from what I understand about laser printers, is that the ink they use is also have high black iron content. They do sell a special paper decal transfer in some specialty ceramic stores. you just print the image you want to transfer like yo do with normal paper, and you soak the paper and rub it on your ceramic piece to transfer the image, and then fire the piece.....
caieros 1 month ago
If you disable fuser power the thermistor that reads the heat of the fuser heat roller and as mentioned it will error out. Dependant on the machine design you might be able to remove the fuser while connected but you'd kill the fuser and many machines drive additional systems by the fuser's gears. Pretty much what he did is it, in printer or copier service we call it a half page test and use it to see if the development, transfer or fusing system is at fault by the condition of the image at half
rhblakeman 2 years ago
Haha, what a silly drawing :)
Zerrith 4 years ago
I tried this on my color copier and transfered it to a t-shirt. it works great.
Moejoe69 4 years ago 2
@Moejoe69 Hi I would like to know about your technique have you used iron to fix it
lavismel 1 year ago
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lavismel 1 year ago
i tried it and it was cool thank you
wesleyloveshilary 4 years ago
@wesleyloveshilary Hi have you used Iron to fix it
lavismel 1 year ago
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marionetemanJ 1 month ago in playlist Pottery - Image, Toner, Decal transfer to Clay
Interesting. Would have liked to see it after firing also...Supposedly HP laser printers also have iron oxide in the toner and you can use a kind of decal paper with them. I have yet to test it. Thanks for sharing this information!
bookjunky23 4 years ago
They all have some amount of iron "developer" powder in them to allow magnetic attraction to the drum then a transfer roller or transfer corona wire reverses that charge to pull it off the drum onto the paper (which is why it takes rubbing to get it to come off rather than falling off if you move it). Older copiers like that have a toner (dry ink) container and a separate "developer" section that usually service people replace. EP cartridges in HP and others are contained in the same cartridge.
rhblakeman 2 years ago
Thank you so much for sharing this!
zzaga1 5 years ago
This was very intresting,I really love the idea of such a simple drawing-transfere.Thank you for sharing
hugger59 5 years ago